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(Daily Mail)   It's a good thing that you want someone to take action about all the cars that have crashed through your house in the last two years but maybe you need to move your family in the meantime   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 39
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2014-04-23 01:41:18 PM  
Cute baby.
 
2014-04-23 01:48:14 PM  
Concrete planters like The Fed?
 
2014-04-23 03:12:28 PM  
So the baby's crib was in the garage?
 
2014-04-23 03:12:55 PM  
19 drunks hit my fence 23 times in the past 13 years, plus one old dude.

Fortunately, my house is 100 yards back and there are large boulders and trees right at the curve to stop them.

One of my mom's neighbors has the same problem - large stands of clumping bamboo seem to help him, but it took a long time to get 'em to grow up enough.  Now cars sorta bounce off of it.
 
2014-04-23 03:13:10 PM  

BalugaJoe: Cute baby.


Looks like she has a five-head
 
2014-04-23 03:13:24 PM  
Why wait for someone else to fix the problem? Put in some bollards along the property line. It's worth it if it saves your kids' lives.
 
2014-04-23 03:14:13 PM  
You know -after the first two, you'd think most people would install those barricade things they hastily disguise as planters in front of government buildings..
 
2014-04-23 03:14:23 PM  
Highland isn't anywhere near L.A., nor is it in L.A. County.
 
2014-04-23 03:17:23 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Concrete planters like The Fed?


Could be wrong about this; but I've heard man-made objects such as walls and planters, as opposed to trees, could result in liabilities to the homeowner.
i.e. person hits wall, breaks head, family sues homeowner.
 
2014-04-23 03:21:18 PM  
I grew up on a corner house at a three way intersection with a light. and we got sick of cars slamming on their brakes, losing control and running up on our lawn and/or knocking out our power. So my stepdad builds a two or three-foot-high brick wall thingy that he just poured cement into the center. The problem persisted... you wouldnt believe the skid marks barely missing that thing, but it never got hit.

/csb
 
2014-04-23 03:25:05 PM  

Odd Bird: Tr0mBoNe: Concrete planters like The Fed?

Could be wrong about this; but I've heard man-made objects such as walls and planters, as opposed to trees, could result in liabilities to the homeowner.
i.e. person hits wall, breaks head, family sues homeowner.


Install an extra large, reinforced bouncy castle.  Sort of like an airbag for your house.

Better yet, make one large enough to live in.
 
2014-04-23 03:26:55 PM  

cgraves67: Why wait for someone else to fix the problem? Put in some bollards along the property line. It's worth it if it saves your kids' lives.


I seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it.  Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.
 
2014-04-23 03:29:18 PM  
The CARFAX report will be awesome.
 
2014-04-23 03:31:00 PM  

Driedsponge: cgraves67: Why wait for someone else to fix the problem? Put in some bollards along the property line. It's worth it if it saves your kids' lives.

I seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it.  Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.


Fine, make it a soft stopper like those water barrels on the interstate or a nice berm of dirt. Even better if it is ugly, it will convince the city to set up a proper solution.
 
2014-04-23 03:32:50 PM  

Driedsponge: cgraves67: Why wait for someone else to fix the problem? Put in some bollards along the property line. It's worth it if it saves your kids' lives.

I seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it.  Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.


Yep, we knew some people one town over whose house sat right on the inside of a sharp curve.  It was about twenty yards from the road.  They got hit five or six times in five years, and one driver took out their entire front porch.  Apparently, it was frequent enough that they just heard a loud thump and said: sounds like someone'shiat the house again.  They were told that they could not place "deadly" barriers in front of the house to stop the vehicles.  They tried softer barriers like bushes, but they never grew large enough to provide a break; someone would lose control and break them before they got big enough.  I think they eventually convinced the state to put a guardrail there, but it took several years.
 
2014-04-23 03:34:43 PM  
I like those chain link fences the military uses that can stop a speeding big rig in a span of 3".
 
2014-04-23 03:35:29 PM  
Growing up there was a church near me right off the Beltway and at least once a year their sign out front would get nailed by someone coming off the beltway too fast. They fixed it by moving the sign back about 10 feet a few years ago. There was a man that lived at a T intersection had the smae problem, he solved it by having huge metal posts installed with a ton of concrete. He even paited them bright yellow and people still hit them.
 
2014-04-23 03:35:43 PM  
I'm surprised the house was allowed to be built that close to the street on a curve like that. Looking at the picture, a car vs house accident doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.

There are a few like that around here but they are old houses built when the busy street was a rural dirt road. I talked with one poor lady who was trying to sell her house right up on a dangerous curve. She was pretty much screwed, as the sleepy little rural route she had played in as a child was now a busy, dangerous road. Nice house, but no one was going to be buying it due to its location.
 
2014-04-23 03:39:08 PM  
Also, I wonder how they were able to get, and keep, homeowners' insurance on that place.
 
2014-04-23 03:42:21 PM  

namegoeshere: Also, I wonder how they were able to get, and keep, homeowners' insurance on that place.


Because he never has to make a claim, as long as the people who hit his house are insured. The driver's liability insurance pays.
 
2014-04-23 03:45:34 PM  

dfenstrate: namegoeshere: Also, I wonder how they were able to get, and keep, homeowners' insurance on that place.

Because he never has to make a claim, as long as the people who hit his house are insured. The driver's liability insurance pays.


Ah. Makes sense.
 
2014-04-23 03:50:08 PM  

Driedsponge: seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it. Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.


I can see that but I wonder if you could setup a concrete pillar right next to the house or even connected to the house.
 
2014-04-23 04:21:53 PM  
I lived in a house on a road that ended in a T with a huge walnut tree. Once a year somebody would hit that tree. We'd hear the brakes squealing then the boom. Then the people would come up to our house and ask for help.

It didn't help that the stop sign was constantly knocked over too.


Country living.
 
2014-04-23 04:33:47 PM  
img.fark.net
See if we can tell the old natives from the transplants here.


/hint, City made them take down the bullseye they had up for months due to bad publicity.
 
2014-04-23 04:36:38 PM  

TNel: Driedsponge: seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it. Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.

I can see that but I wonder if you could setup a concrete pillar right next to the house or even connected to the house.


As long as the barrier is not within the road right-of-way, and it's not designed to damage cars, there shouldn't be a problem. You get these sorts of lawsuits when people build concrete or brick mailboxes, which are actually in the right of way. You're allowed to protect yourself from cars hurtling into your house the same as you're allowed to protect yourself from burglars: no booby traps or land mines allowed, but concrete barriers are not a problem if they meet the appropriate setback laws, and do not increase the danger to someone driving across the lawn (crash barriers are intended to make the situation safer, not more dangerous, for the driver). A homeowner has no obligation to protected unanticipated trespassers, but they do have an obligation to protected anticipated trespassers, like all these regularly occurring cars in the lawn.
 
2014-04-23 04:40:41 PM  

Astorix: I lived in a house on a road that ended in a T with a huge walnut tree. Once a year somebody would hit that tree. We'd hear the brakes squealing then the boom. Then the people would come up to our house and ask for help.

It didn't help that the stop sign was constantly knocked over too.


Country living.


I used to live on a road that took a 90-degree left turn to run along and down the ridgeline, right after a short blind hill. If you went straight, you could wind up in the creek 200 feet below (but the trees would probably stop you). They finally put in a guard rail after one too many crashes, but within a month it had a HUGE U-shaped bend in the middle.
 
2014-04-23 04:50:06 PM  

orclover: [img.fark.net image 264x191]
See if we can tell the old natives from the transplants here.

/hint, City made them take down the bullseye they had up for months due to bad publicity.


House in my town at the end of a T intersection was hit so often the owners painted a bullseye on the house (perhaps the garage). City ordinances, however, and so no more target on the house.

/They may as well knock it down themselves for a thruway; it is never going to sell.
 
2014-04-23 05:01:17 PM  
Link

This isn't his address, but you can make an educated guess as to what house it could be. No personal information is shown.
 
2014-04-23 05:06:12 PM  
Just make his house a ramp. Problem solved.
 
2014-04-23 05:19:27 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Link

This isn't his address, but you can make an educated guess as to what house it could be. No personal information is shown.


I'm guessing the cities argument would be that the "Dead End" signs on the street should be warning enough that a sign about the curve shouldn't be needed, but they are apparently wrong if there have been 4 collisions in two years.
 
2014-04-23 05:42:20 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Link

This isn't his address, but you can make an educated guess as to what house it could be. No personal information is shown.


Came here for this. Thanks. Crash rates are one of the warrant items for additional traffic controls. I'm sure they don't want to spend lots of our hard earned tax dollars putting signs up everywhere (and causing more sign pollution) but with the recent crash history I bet they'll do so.

Curious that they don't discuss any accidents (or accident rates) older than two years.

//the roads there look like bad city planning in general
///IMO
 
2014-04-23 06:03:05 PM  
Build a moat?
Oops,,, I mean Koi Pond.
 
2014-04-23 06:21:50 PM  
Is this kind of like the family from the Jaws movies that keeps refusing to MOVE THE FRACK TO NEBRASKA?
 
2014-04-23 07:37:56 PM  
My parents live on one of these curves. The house itself is set far enough back that it isn't an issue. when a few people a year plow into the mailbox or trees. One year my dad finally had enough of his mailbox getting destroyed and started using an enormous block of concrete as a post. The first car that hit it ended up on top of it at an angle, and yup the mailbox was still destroyed. I convinced him that maybe it would be better to just move the damn thing instead of trying to kill people. Hasn't been hit since.
 
2014-04-23 08:24:55 PM  

TNel: Driedsponge: seem to recall there being some legal precedent where doing something like this knowing someone was bound to hit it actually constitutes some weird definition of intent to do bodily harm and anyone injured by hitting them could bring a lawsuit against you for it. Having the town come up with a solution (installing guard rails, reflective signs, etc) they avoid being named in future injury lawsuits should something happen.

/not a lawyer.

I can see that but I wonder if you could setup a concrete pillar right next to the house or even connected to the house.


Yeah, you would figure after the third crash this guy would invest in concrete bollards to protect the lives of him and his family.
 
2014-04-23 08:30:39 PM  

i.r.id10t: 19 drunks hit my fence 23 times in the past 13 years, plus one old dude.

Fortunately, my house is 100 yards back and there are large boulders and trees right at the curve to stop them.

One of my mom's neighbors has the same problem - large stands of clumping bamboo seem to help him, but it took a long time to get 'em to grow up enough.  Now cars sorta bounce off of it.


Why did they that old dude 23 times in the last 13 years, and do you find it weird that it's the same number of times that people took out your fence?
 
2014-04-23 08:36:47 PM  
Headline:  Family calls for action after FOURTH car in two years crashes into LA home narrowly missing baby's crib


FTFA:  The father said that over the past two years, three other vehicles have ended up on their property.
One vehicle hit a fence; one landed in the bushes and another left skid marks on the sidewalk, he told KTLA.


Seriously, these two are completely different from each other(Only 1 car hit the house). Whoever keeps submitting the bullshiat where the Fark Headline doesn't match TFA probably has a job writing headlines for the Daily Fail as well.

As for that car wreck, the driver may deserve SOME credit for making it the most spectacular car-in-house wrecks I've seen in a long time. Looks like he just sailed right off the road... he just sailed right off there.

www.imperialclub.com
 
2014-04-24 03:36:40 PM  

Mikey1969: i.r.id10t: 19 drunks hit my fence 23 times in the past 13 years, plus one old dude.

Fortunately, my house is 100 yards back and there are large boulders and trees right at the curve to stop them.

One of my mom's neighbors has the same problem - large stands of clumping bamboo seem to help him, but it took a long time to get 'em to grow up enough.  Now cars sorta bounce off of it.

Why did they that old dude 23 times in the last 13 years, and do you find it weird that it's the same number of times that people took out your fence?


One of the drunks was a "neighbor" about a mile away, 44 and living at home with his parents.  Was more scared of his dad finding out that he totaled a truck (again!) than of me wearing my boxers, crocs, and carrying a 1911 (aggressive redneck drunks is what we get), or of what the highway patrol was going to do.   He hit my fence 3 times, and almost hit it a 4th.  Each time he'd get further thru the corner, so I guess he was learning....

The old guy was 92, had uneven legs so he had a super ultra thick sole on his right shoe, bright sunny day at 10am, he though he had his foot on the brake pedal, but it was the gas pedal instead.  His accident killed a small (18" diameter) oak tree, which has since fallen down and is acting as part of my yard barrier.
 
2014-04-24 04:51:43 PM  

i.r.id10t: One of the drunks was a "neighbor" about a mile away, 44 and living at home with his parents.  Was more scared of his dad finding out that he totaled a truck (again!) than of me wearing my boxers, crocs, and carrying a 1911 (aggressive redneck drunks is what we get), or of what the highway patrol was going to do.   He hit my fence 3 times, and almost hit it a 4th.  Each time he'd get further thru the corner, so I guess he was learning....

The old guy was 92, had uneven legs so he had a super ultra thick sole on his right shoe, bright sunny day at 10am, he though he had his foot on the brake pedal, but it was the gas pedal instead.  His accident killed a small (18" diameter) oak tree, which has since fallen down and is acting as part of my yard barrier.


Seriously, that sucks... I won't live in a house that appears to have problem roads like that. My street is bad enough. We have a relatively busy street, and parking lanes on each side marked by a solid white line. People think that this is a passing lane, and they will just whip into it at 40-50 mph. I came home one day to a car at the house across the street all of the way into its driveway, It had been parked(perfectly legal) on the street and got hit hard enough to send it up over the curb, across the green strip, across the sidewalk, and into the driveway. They took two people away in an ambulance after THAT little adventure, one strapped to a backboard. Our house is set decently far back on the lot, we have trees out front, and the flowerbed is actually a berm that's 2 1/2 feet or so high, so someone will have to work hard to hit the house, thankfully.

Saw a house in Bisbee AZ that found a novel solution to your problem... They probably had 60-70 posts out in front of their house with every kind of reflector you can imagine, they were just over a rise in the road with a curve at the bottom. It caught you off guard a little at night when you came over the hill, but it was effective.Of course, Bisbee is a small town, and this guy was out on the edge, so no neighbors to really complain about the stuff in his yard.
 
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