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(International Business Times)   Today is St George's Day in England, kind of like President's Day if George Washington was a Turkish dragon slayer who never actually went to the United States   (ibtimes.co.uk) divider line 10
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2014-04-23 10:15:06 AM  
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He wasn't Turkish, ffs. If he was born in 270ad, and the Seljuk Turks first made it to Anatolia around the 11th century, that gives him over 700 years before the area was ruled by Turks.

Every bloody year we have a deluge of people thinking they're being clever by pointing out he's Turkish. Funnily enough, considering later Eastern Roman religious thought, what they are in fact doing is being iconoclastic. They think St. George is thought of as a proud, genetically pure Englishman by racist natives, so they seek to destroy that icon.

It's the same for St. Patrick, yes we know he wasn't Irish, and didn't really chase the snakes out of Ireland. Enough already.
2014-04-23 11:14:54 AM  
2 votes:

FriarReb98: Religions exist, and the true celebration of them is not done to stick it to those who don't believe in it.


My sky-faerie can kick you sky-faeries derrière, so there!

The fact that religion persists is abhorrent. It's a social disease which should be treated as such. Preventing the initial indoctrination is the correct approach.

Boo-hoo if this upsets the delusionals.  Because the sooner we stop interpreting the real world through the rantings of madmen, and abdicating personal responsibility in favour of magical beings, the better for everyone concerned.

I say, good on 'em.
2014-04-23 10:19:50 AM  
2 votes:
The first time my husband deployed to the Middle East, I put a St George medal on with his dog tags.  We aren't Catholic but it couldn't hurt.  He came home in one piece (mostly).

This hangs in our bedroom.

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2014-04-23 08:45:49 AM  
2 votes:
A poll by think tank British Future last year found only 40% of people knew that St George's Day was on 23 April, compared to 71% who knew when America's Independence Day was.

Well, not everyone has forgotten.

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2014-04-24 11:00:47 AM  
1 votes:

Aar1012: Arkanaut: I heard George Washington once slew a dragon by throwing a cherry tree across the Delaware River.

The force of the collision was so hard that it sent the dragon flying for miles. The impact crater was so massive that we call it the Grand Canyon


It's not like that at all. Dude was twelve stories high, made of radiation.

My understanding is that St. George was the Catholic Christian version of the Mithras cult, essentially. He was venerated by the Christian warriors the same way the pagans venerated Mithras, in a cult that was almost entirely military-based. So it spread wherever the Roman army went, and survived longest in England. It lasted in England because those left behind by the Romans were essentially cut off from the rest of civilization when St. George veneration died down elsewhere, or was replaced by other military saints like James in Spain, or Demetrius in the Orthodox world.
2014-04-23 12:43:56 PM  
1 votes:
Dum dah-dum-dum...

This is the countryside
My name is St George
I'm a knight
Saturday, July 10th, 8:05 pm
I was working out of the castle on the nightwatch
when a call came in from the Chief
A dragon had been devouring maidens
Homicide
My job, slay him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUdFLyNCeI4&feature=kp
2014-04-23 12:13:14 PM  
1 votes:

Slaxl: He wasn't Turkish, ffs. If he was born in 270ad, and the Seljuk Turks first made it to Anatolia around the 11th century, that gives him over 700 years before the area was ruled by Turks.

Every bloody year we have a deluge of people thinking they're being clever by pointing out he's Turkish.


He wasn't even necessarily born in Anatolia. Wikipedia says: "... born in Lydda, Roman Palestine, was a soldier in the Roman army ... His father was Gerontius, a Greek Christian from Cappadocia, and an official in the Roman army. His mother, Polychronia was a Palestinian Christian."

Which would make him Palestinian by birth, though Anatolian (Cappadocian) if reckoned by his father's birth, or even Greek by his presumed native language.

Over his life-span, 275/281 - 303 AD, he could also be called Roman (as part of the Roman empire) and that his parents were claimed to be nobles from the Anicia gens, or Eastern Roman or Byzantine (which was partitioned from the Western half in 285 by the emperor Diocletian).

// In the eastern part, Greek was always the predominant language though it didn't supplant Latin as the official language until 620.
2014-04-23 11:51:05 AM  
1 votes:
Happy St. George's Day, to all my English friends!

Enjoy a pint on me, y'all!

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2014-04-23 10:38:44 AM  
1 votes:
A poll by think tank British Future last year found only 40% of people knew that St George's Day was on 23 April, compared to 71% who knew when America's Independence Day was

this is not because we are dumb ( though a fair few are ) but because we just simply don't give a shiat.
2014-04-23 10:18:21 AM  
1 votes:
Perhaps they can re-enact the whole St. George thing with rats (thousands of them...) taking the place of the dragon.

Anyway, cheerio chaps!
 
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