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2014-04-22 01:40:15 PM  
Denny Crane!

/in which I'd actually like James Spader more than Bill Shatner, but the name-as-an-entire-sentence doesn't work so well
 
2014-04-22 01:45:55 PM  
Not weird or surprising. I knew the guy was a weirdo when I saw him on Conan get into some riff about eggs being a "sexy food".

/Maybe he and Matt Drudge should hook up
 
2014-04-22 01:46:51 PM  
I'm Christian Bocher. I'm portraying the character of Raymond Gunn, who portrays the character of Dr. Levant, which is based on the character Daniel Jackson, portrayed by the actor Michael Shanks. Originally portrayed by the actor James Spader, in the feature film.


Instantly came to mind
 
2014-04-22 01:46:53 PM  
Annoying guy known for being annoying seems like he's an annoying guy.
 
2014-04-22 01:47:16 PM  
He certainly makes The Blacklist entertaining. So does Megan Boone but for entirely different reasons.

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2014-04-22 01:47:59 PM  

Saiga410: I'm Christian Bocher. I'm portraying the character of Raymond Gunn, who portrays the character of Dr. Levant, which is based on the character Daniel Jackson, portrayed by the actor Michael Shanks. Originally portrayed by the actor James Spader, in the feature film.


Instantly came to mind


That is one of my favorite parts of ALL of SG-1.
 
2014-04-22 01:52:46 PM  
Damn, I miss Boston Legal.

Wish they'd put it up on Netflix.
 
2014-04-22 01:56:13 PM  
Actors are wierd
 
2014-04-22 02:02:51 PM  
One of may favorite photos of any actor:

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2014-04-22 02:06:54 PM  
His secretary has it the hardest
 
2014-04-22 02:09:34 PM  
Spader's trick for doing Reddington deems to be eating a handful of carroway seeds before doing his dialogue. He spends all this time apparently tying to clear obstructions between his teeth and gums. :-)


Yesterday's episode was incredibly bad. Very badly-written; Lizzie Keen is now officially The Worst Profiler/Agent Ever.

Red or her fellow Agent: "Liz; I have an urgent  new piece of intel for you to pass on to the FBI! We can save the girl!"
Lizzie: "Thanks, I'll ignore that and go off on my own for a bit longer, before I maybe remember to forward that tidbit. I'm sure the bureau can figure it out themselves later or something, even though a life is at stake and it would take like a whole minute to forward the intel."
"Agent/Red: maybe I'll just call them direct, oooooh-kayyy...."

"HA! I have you tied to a chair in my kitchen!  Now I will just put my gun down, turn my back, and monologue for fifteen minutes so you have time to work an escape."

"i have perfect unknown agents trailing your fake husband, Wait here in the car and we'll get their report"
"No, I have to tail him closely myself, so he has a chance to I.D. me."

"You're hired because you're  great profiler"
"I have no idea who this guy I married is".


Her boss isn't much better:
Underling: "I have an idea on how to find xyz thing.....here's the whole plan,  it's our only lead - can I go put it into action?"
Boss: "After five seconds of considering it, and offering nothing but a regurgitation of what you just said, I have come to a masterful decision: you should go do the xyz thing. MAKE IT HAPPEN!"
 
2014-04-22 02:23:25 PM  
I enjoy the show but I believe Megan Boone is in way over her head. She is so weak as an actress that you can almost see Spader rolling his eyes every time she speaks her lines.
 
2014-04-22 02:30:08 PM  
For instance, the writers on Blacklist had to rewrite entire scenes, schedules had to be changed,and network executives had to be inconvenienced all so that his character "could don a yarmulke and hide out in a synagogue for a few episodes, until he could smoke out his betrayer."

All right, this doesn't explain shiat... Why did all of this shiat have to change? Is he saying that Spader only wanted them to shoot real-time, as opposed to shooting all of the synagogue scenes on the same day? I mean, this makes no sense in the context of TFA. And why were the network executives "inconvenienced"? And who cares if they were?
 
2014-04-22 02:33:19 PM  
Robert California is exactly how Spader is in real life. Same cadence to the speech, same oddball outlook, same casually sexual innuendo, etc. I'm reminded of Hunter S. Thompson's line about Oscar Acosta: "There he went. One of god's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
 
2014-04-22 02:33:22 PM  
I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?
 
2014-04-22 02:34:08 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?


Swear that's an extra vowel and not a usage error, I swear
 
2014-04-22 02:35:54 PM  
I always figured he was an odd one sexually given his roles in Sex, Lies and Videotape, Crash and Secretary. He was too perfectly deviant for it all to be an act.
 
2014-04-22 02:45:17 PM  

Mikey1969: For instance, the writers on Blacklist had to rewrite entire scenes, schedules had to be changed,and network executives had to be inconvenienced all so that his character "could don a yarmulke and hide out in a synagogue for a few episodes, until he could smoke out his betrayer."

All right, this doesn't explain shiat... Why did all of this shiat have to change? Is he saying that Spader only wanted them to shoot real-time, as opposed to shooting all of the synagogue scenes on the same day? I mean, this makes no sense in the context of TFA. And why were the network executives "inconvenienced"? And who cares if they were?


The synagogue scenes weren't originally involved. They forgot to address the fact the Red had a mole to deal with.

At least that's how I read it.
 
2014-04-22 02:56:44 PM  
Blacklist lost a lot of steam after the mid-season break. Spader's character is really the only interesting one and he's had very little screen time since then.
 
2014-04-22 03:03:57 PM  

Zappagirl: I always figured he was an odd one sexually given his roles in Sex, Lies and Videotape, Crash and Secretary. He was too perfectly deviant for it all to be an act.


Don't leave off Crash
 
2014-04-22 03:15:48 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: Damn, I miss Boston Legal.

Wish they'd put it up on Netflix.


Absolutely.  That and The Practice both need to be on there.  They're both great shows, and at the very top of my list for "things to put on and occupy my mind while my eyes and hands are busy."
 
2014-04-22 03:28:18 PM  

monoski: Zappagirl: I always figured he was an odd one sexually given his roles in Sex, Lies and Videotape, Crash and Secretary. He was too perfectly deviant for it all to be an act.

Don't leave off Crash


That was one weird movie.
 
2014-04-22 03:33:03 PM  
Bad Influence.

Go watch it.
 
2014-04-22 03:37:07 PM  

Last Man on Earth: Raug the Dwarf: Damn, I miss Boston Legal.

Wish they'd put it up on Netflix.

Absolutely.  That and The Practice both need to be on there.  They're both great shows, and at the very top of my list for "things to put on and occupy my mind while my eyes and hands are busy."


At least Boston Legal is on DVD.

The Practice isn't even out, except for season 1 and season 8. and season 8 is just Boston Legal season 0.
 
2014-04-22 03:38:32 PM  
I thought he was also great in '2 Days in the Valley' but Crash, that was......
 
2014-04-22 03:41:50 PM  
Yet for some reason he's always gotten a pass for "Mannequin"

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2014-04-22 03:42:05 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?


I was going to say that, for as much as the writer says "You will  never mistake a James Spader character for anyone else.", I bet James Spader has gotten pretty good at signing Michael Shanks' signature.  Kind of like Fishburne signing Samuel Jackson autographs.
 
2014-04-22 03:43:21 PM  
You'd be OC, too, if you started out in dreck like "Tuff Turf". It's no wonder he wants everything perfect.
 
2014-04-22 03:47:10 PM  

monoski: Zappagirl: I always figured he was an odd one sexually given his roles in Sex, Lies and Videotape, Crash and Secretary. He was too perfectly deviant for it all to be an act.


Don't leave off Crash


I didn't....amazing movie (amazing book as well - JG Ballard was a fantastic author - High Rise is one of the most jarring books I've ever read, and Empire of the Sun is incredibly harrowing, especially given that it's partially autobiographical).
 
2014-04-22 03:50:44 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Mikey1969: For instance, the writers on Blacklist had to rewrite entire scenes, schedules had to be changed,and network executives had to be inconvenienced all so that his character "could don a yarmulke and hide out in a synagogue for a few episodes, until he could smoke out his betrayer."

All right, this doesn't explain shiat... Why did all of this shiat have to change? Is he saying that Spader only wanted them to shoot real-time, as opposed to shooting all of the synagogue scenes on the same day? I mean, this makes no sense in the context of TFA. And why were the network executives "inconvenienced"? And who cares if they were?

The synagogue scenes weren't originally involved. They forgot to address the fact the Red had a mole to deal with.

At least that's how I read it.


So it doesn't sound like he was being all that difficult, if your take on it is correct. That doesn't sound like an obsessive disorder to me.

Either way, I think part of TFA was produced by an armless blind man with no big toes slapping away on a keyboard...
 
2014-04-22 03:52:51 PM  

xrayspx: Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?

I was going to say that, for as much as the writer says "You will  never mistake a James Spader character for anyone else.", I bet James Spader has gotten pretty good at signing Michael Shanks' signature.  Kind of like Fishburne signing Samuel Jackson autographs.


Given how much longer Spader's been in the industry I would have figured Shanks would be the one pretending to be Spader. At least Shanks has been a lot more successful with aping Spader's style than say, Christian Slater was in aping Jack Nicholson's style.
 
2014-04-22 04:11:09 PM  

Any Pie Left: Spader's trick for doing Reddington deems to be eating a handful of carroway seeds before doing his dialogue. He spends all this time apparently tying to clear obstructions between his teeth and gums. :-)


Yesterday's episode was incredibly bad. Very badly-written; Lizzie Keen is now officially The Worst Profiler/Agent Ever.

Red or her fellow Agent: "Liz; I have an urgent  new piece of intel for you to pass on to the FBI! We can save the girl!"
Lizzie: "Thanks, I'll ignore that and go off on my own for a bit longer, before I maybe remember to forward that tidbit. I'm sure the bureau can figure it out themselves later or something, even though a life is at stake and it would take like a whole minute to forward the intel."
"Agent/Red: maybe I'll just call them direct, oooooh-kayyy...."

"HA! I have you tied to a chair in my kitchen!  Now I will just put my gun down, turn my back, and monologue for fifteen minutes so you have time to work an escape."

"i have perfect unknown agents trailing your fake husband, Wait here in the car and we'll get their report"
"No, I have to tail him closely myself, so he has a chance to I.D. me."

"You're hired because you're  great profiler"
"I have no idea who this guy I married is".


Her boss isn't much better:
Underling: "I have an idea on how to find xyz thing.....here's the whole plan,  it's our only lead - can I go put it into action?"
Boss: "After five seconds of considering it, and offering nothing but a regurgitation of what you just said, I have come to a masterful decision: you should go do the xyz thing. MAKE IT HAPPEN!"


I agree completely with this.  Lizzy has got to be the worst agent out there.  Tom tied up and handed to you on a silver platter?  I know, I'll mess it up and he can escape! Again!  Where is Lizzy during work hours?  No one knows.  Her ability to have mature conversations with Red are just as ridiculous. Red: "Lizzy, I have this huge thing to give to you..."  Lizzy: "I'M DONE WITH YOU RED!"

I like Red, and I like the stories, but Lizzy is dumb as rocks.  And Tom knew that.
 
2014-04-22 04:16:23 PM  

Any Pie Left: Spader's trick for doing Reddington deems to be eating a handful of carroway seeds before doing his dialogue. He spends all this time apparently tying to clear obstructions between his teeth and gums. :-)


Add that to the funny little off-kilter bobble-head routine, and you've pretty much summed it up.  (Add a bit of a wobble to his head in browneye's pic, and there ya go...)
 
2014-04-22 04:20:17 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: xrayspx: Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?

I was going to say that, for as much as the writer says "You will  never mistake a James Spader character for anyone else.", I bet James Spader has gotten pretty good at signing Michael Shanks' signature.  Kind of like Fishburne signing Samuel Jackson autographs.

Given how much longer Spader's been in the industry I would have figured Shanks would be the one pretending to be Spader. At least Shanks has been a lot more successful with aping Spader's style than say, Christian Slater was in aping Jack Nicholson's style.


Oh definitely, but he played the role of Daniel Jackson a lot longer.  So if two people see Spader and one of them is "Oh hey, that's Daniel Jackson from (the movie) Stargate", someone might see the resemblance and ask for the wrong autograph.  I don't know, autographs aren't my thing, and those two look at least as much alike as Fishburne and Jackson.
 
2014-04-22 04:22:53 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: xrayspx: Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?

I was going to say that, for as much as the writer says "You will  never mistake a James Spader character for anyone else.", I bet James Spader has gotten pretty good at signing Michael Shanks' signature.  Kind of like Fishburne signing Samuel Jackson autographs.

Given how much longer Spader's been in the industry I would have figured Shanks would be the one pretending to be Spader. At least Shanks has been a lot more successful with aping Spader's style than say, Christian Slater was in aping Jack Nicholson's style.


Except Shanks played the character much, much longer.  The chance of someone going "That's Daniel Jackson!" and assuming Shanks just on pure inertia is much greater.  I suspect that if I got the proverbial nickel for every time someone  walked up to Spader, told him they loved him in Stargate, asked for his autograph, while Spader was signing said "I loved you in Episode X", got the stink-eye, and then had to embarrassingly apologize, I could afford a relatively decent apartment in Manhattan.
 
2014-04-22 04:23:01 PM  
I used to watch "Blacklist" regularly and enjoyed James Spader chew the scenery for 45 minutes, but that got old after several weeks.  He does the same head-tilted-to-the-side thing every time, and does a quick "no" shake of his head after saying a profound line.  He could very well be the next Haratio Cane (standing sideways and uncomfortably cocking and craning head for maximum camera mugging during all of CSI Miami's run), except his quirks are not as noticeable or as fun to mock.
 
2014-04-22 04:26:57 PM  
Damn. ninjaed
 
2014-04-22 04:29:05 PM  
Did somebody say fetish?

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2014-04-22 04:31:10 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Did somebody say fetish?

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I'll take two.  To go.
 
2014-04-22 05:04:59 PM  
Really enjoyed Blacklist at the beginning, but it has gone bad FAST. Last night's episode was laughably bad. Can't think of a show that went from must watch to unwatchable so quickly.
 
2014-04-22 05:08:51 PM  
Generally, most great actors play themselves to some degree. Nicholas Cage, Samuel L. Jackson, Klaus Kinski, Morgan Freeman, etc. A few really break the mold and completely become whatever character they play, but that's rare (Denzel Washington, Jamie Foxx, Daniel Day Louis come to mind).

And there are terrible ones who only play themselves (Kevin James, Vince Vaughn, Hugh Grant, Drew Barrymore, etc).
 
2014-04-22 05:11:33 PM  

Titanius Anglesmith: monoski: Zappagirl: I always figured he was an odd one sexually given his roles in Sex, Lies and Videotape, Crash and Secretary. He was too perfectly deviant for it all to be an act.

Don't leave off Crash

That was one weird movie.


Decent movie, but the book, as is often the case, is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
 
2014-04-22 05:16:44 PM  
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2014-04-22 05:45:06 PM  

buntz: Yet for some reason he's always gotten a pass for "Mannequin"


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2014-04-22 05:47:08 PM  

phalamir: Crotchrocket Slim: xrayspx: Crotchrocket Slim: I don't remember the cinematic Dr. Daniel Jackson having any sort of a kinky edge too him at least until Michael Shanks played him.

Come to think of it I've never seen James Spader and Michael Shanks in the same room. Has anyone? Has this ever been documented?

I was going to say that, for as much as the writer says "You will  never mistake a James Spader character for anyone else.", I bet James Spader has gotten pretty good at signing Michael Shanks' signature.  Kind of like Fishburne signing Samuel Jackson autographs.

Given how much longer Spader's been in the industry I would have figured Shanks would be the one pretending to be Spader. At least Shanks has been a lot more successful with aping Spader's style than say, Christian Slater was in aping Jack Nicholson's style.

Except Shanks played the character much, much longer.  The chance of someone going "That's Daniel Jackson!" and assuming Shanks just on pure inertia is much greater.  I suspect that if I got the proverbial nickel for every time someone  walked up to Spader, told him they loved him in Stargate, asked for his autograph, while Spader was signing said "I loved you in Episode X", got the stink-eye, and then had to embarrassingly apologize, I could afford a relatively decent apartment in Manhattan.


At this point I sort of doubt people are going to see James Spader and think "he's the dude from Stargate", he's done much more since and actually had a pretty well established career beforehand too. I'm just saying that Spader's probably a lot more well known than Shanks.
 
2014-04-22 05:51:21 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Did somebody say fetish?

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...he invited me in and offered me a chocolate. That became a sort of S&M-type ritual between us.

I feel like we're still missing part of this story she's not telling us.
 
2014-04-22 05:55:27 PM  

SquiggsIN: kling_klang_bed: Generally, most great actors play themselves to some degree. Nicholas Cage, Samuel L. Jackson, Klaus Kinski, Morgan Freeman, etc. A few really break the mold and completely become whatever character they play, but that's rare (Denzel Washington, Jamie Foxx, Daniel Day Louis come to mind).

And there are terrible ones who only play themselves (Kevin James, Vince Vaughn, Hugh Grant, Drew Barrymore, etc).

Chameleons : Daniel Day Lewis, Gary Oldman, John Turturro
Anvil-method : agree with your above terrible list.  I'd add Owen Wilson, Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Megan Fox, Kristen Stewart, and a few others to the 'just an image' list of actors.


I'd add Jason Statham in there as well, but at least he's entertaining and did kinda sorta break out of his shell with 'Redemption'. Not much of a stretch, but at least something, unlike the above mentioned actors.
 
2014-04-22 06:01:37 PM  

SquiggsIN: ... still can't make it work without the seventh symbol


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I don't suppose the word "dweeb" means anything to you.
 
2014-04-22 06:02:15 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Robert California is exactly how Spader is in real life. Same cadence to the speech, same oddball outlook, same casually sexual innuendo, etc. I'm reminded of Hunter S. Thompson's line about Oscar Acosta: "There he went. One of god's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."


That quote is perfect for describing Spader.

I've always liked my men a bit.....off the reservation - Spader, Walken, Nicholson, Cage. I could watch them in anything.

I'll continue to watch Blacklist. As others have noted the writing is almost laughable at this point but I think if we could get them to kill off Lizzy (really, WHO conceived/cast HER?) the show would be in the top 5. After all, May sweeps is looming!
 
2014-04-22 06:21:45 PM  
My favorite James Spader role:
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