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2004-02-06 09:13:57 AM
Of Course water should be free of charge. She's a social worker. They spend their lives not only telling others how to live, but having the government pick up the check.

Here's to you, Mr. Rude To Pompous Customers Hotel Guy
 
2004-02-06 09:17:29 AM
I seem to recall that it's against the law for hotels, bars, restaurants etc to charge money for tap water.

Anyone care enough to hunt for a source?
 
2004-02-06 09:21:32 AM
"I buy water from the South West Water Company. I buy the glasses that the water is served in. I buy the ice that goes in the water and I buy the labour to serve the water.

"I provide the luxury surroundings for the water to be drunk in and again pay for the labour and washing materials to wash the glass after you have used it, and you think I should provide all of this free of charge.


He makes a very valid point, even though £2 for a glass of water is a tad steep. It's like the people who go to a restaurant or cafe and want a cup of hot water for the tea bag they brought with them - and expect that water for free or next to nothing. There's more to that water than just the water itself.
 
2004-02-06 09:46:14 AM
I'm sorry, but if you bring a tea bag into a restaurant and ask for a cup of hot water you have problems. my girlfriend brings her own tea, but orders a cup of tea with the bag on the side...and then just uses her own.
 
2004-02-06 09:52:03 AM
I would have just peed in a glass and gave it to her. There's your free water biatch.
 
2004-02-06 10:17:43 AM
He's an asshat, sure, but she's as bad for making a fuss about it. And tap water? Tap water is disgusting, so if you're going to pay for it anyway, buy the bottled stuff.

/can't believe she wanted tap water
 
2004-02-06 11:22:49 AM
Yes ma'am one tea-bagged glass of water coming right up

/don't fark with the help
 
2004-02-06 12:01:19 PM
kitten uk:
He's an asshat, sure, but she's as bad for making a fuss about it. And tap water? Tap water is disgusting, so if you're going to pay for it anyway, buy the bottled stuff.

Tap water is so much better than what people used to drink 100 years ago (in developed countries) and still drink in the 3rd world. A mild metallic taste is nothing compared to fecal-smelling bacteria-ridden cloudy brown nastiness.

I agree bottled water tastes very pure and refreshing but you are fortunate if you are able to afford it, and if you can't, you'll be just fine with tap water.

Of course, there are concerns that a lifetime of trace amounts of lead, nickel, tin, etc., are going to hurt you somehow. These concerns are not without merit, but the fact is you are still much better off with tap water readily available for you to drink than either being forced to buy bottled water (if you are able) or using a well. Well water is unregulated and can be very nasty.
 
2004-02-06 12:01:56 PM
Penny wise, pound asinine.
 
2004-02-06 12:03:25 PM
2 pounds for tap water? That better be runoff of Petra V's shower.
 
2004-02-06 12:04:29 PM
So does she get a discount for pissing it back into their toilets?
 
2004-02-06 12:04:33 PM
Considering the earth is mostly covered in water, not land, and water is essential to life, I don't think it is unreasonable for any human being to expect water to be provided free from it's civilization/society. It may cost to transport and purify, but we all farking need it people.

Or, would you rather we pay for air too, come time it needs to be transported and purified?
 
2004-02-06 12:04:46 PM
"Water water everywhere, so let's all have a drink!"
 
2004-02-06 12:05:09 PM
Well, he's from Barcelona.

/Faulty Titties
 
2004-02-06 12:05:22 PM
iollow - I wonder what this woman would find more insulting - the hotel manager's refusal to provide free water, or your implication that, because she wanted free tap water, she must be the economic equivalent of a garbage-digging third-world mendicant who cannot afford even a bottle of water. Because, you know, if you want tap water, it's obvious you can't afford that refreshing goodness that is bottled water.

Hmmmm...
 
2004-02-06 12:05:47 PM
I think the key thing here is that they had a meal at the hotel. Water is always free with food. You're paying for food, they can throw in the water for free.
 
2004-02-06 12:06:13 PM
Too farking bad. He has a point, do you *really* think he's there to treat you well if you don't *pay* him? It *is* a business. May not have been the smartest business move to write a non-soothing letter, but again, perhaps he *really* doesn't need "cheapskates." After all, you lear in the industry that where you make your money is on the additions, up-sells and accessories. Return customers are good, but if they only buy the cheapest thing, then make room for the people that will blow their whole wad. And I'm figuring the people that were there for their party were spending very little.
 
2004-02-06 12:07:04 PM
Bottled water is tap water, people.
Keep fooling yourself if you prefer.
 
2004-02-06 12:09:03 PM
So does she get a discount for pissing it back into their toilets?


Bwaahahahahahahahaha!
 
2004-02-06 12:09:49 PM
Potty McNugg should probably review his Coleridge:

Water, water, every where,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.
 
2004-02-06 12:11:02 PM
Veracity

Paying for air, say, that sounds like a larf....

 
2004-02-06 12:11:03 PM
Sorry, baddriver, tap water and bottled water are usually not one in the same. While Ive had funny colored and foul tasting tap water (worst was Phoenix), Ive never had bottled water that tatsed funny or looked off color. Except for the arrowhead, that just may be clairified tap water.
 
2004-02-06 12:11:51 PM
here ya go, four waters.

Eh, you call this water?

It's wet, isn't it? Now drink up!

/Goonies
 
2004-02-06 12:11:59 PM
hogans

That's a great Iron Maiden song!

okay, okay, I know they didn't write it, but I always think of their song first, and of course it's titled "Rime of the Ancient Mariner"

Wonder how they came up with that title ;-)
 
2004-02-06 12:12:32 PM
They forgot the end of his letter:

P.S. - stfu! u r pwn3d!!!!11 lolololol!!1
 
2004-02-06 12:13:44 PM
There's a restaurant by my inlaws that won't give you a slice of lemon with your glass of water unless you order a "real" drink, like a soda. All the old folks would squeeze the lemon into the water, add sweetener and viola! Lemonade! For free!
 
2004-02-06 12:13:48 PM
"Don't mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it."

/basil
 
2004-02-06 12:13:56 PM
I was at the food court in the mall once and some guy ordered a cup of water and the clerk charged him 5 cents. He wrote her up, some kind of inspector guy. So no, I don't think anyone can charge you for water.
 
2004-02-06 12:14:18 PM
Charge 'em for the lice.
Extra for the mice.
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice.

Here a little slice.
There a little cut.
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut.

When it comes to fixing prices,
There are lots of tricks he knows.
How it all increases
All the bits and pieces
Jesus! It's amazing how it grows!
 
2004-02-06 12:14:29 PM
Veracity:

Would you feel better if he had told her that the water is free, but the transportation, glass rental fee, and cost to produce the ice amounted to 2 pounds? Not to mention the fact that even the water isn't actually free.

That's pretty much what he did in the letter.

I should complain to the post office that it costs $0.37 for someone to send me a letter. After all, my mailbox is right alongside a cluster of other mailboxes, so the postman is going to be there anyway. Why should it cost anything? I'm outraged, and will soon be contacting my lawyer.
 
2004-02-06 12:15:08 PM
Or, would you rather we pay for air too, come time it needs to be transported and purified?

Oxygen tanks aren't free you know.
 
2004-02-06 12:15:14 PM
cheap ass thirsty dickchaser
 
2004-02-06 12:15:29 PM
I'd also challenge her assesment of the cost of water once you add in all the public works and employees to provide.

Good for him, I'll go further and suggest that as a socielty we could with less social workers that don't understand economic realities in general.
 
2004-02-06 12:16:07 PM
hogans: It was a Homer Simpson quote.
 
2004-02-06 12:16:32 PM
"We have a saying in Springfield. If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back."
 
2004-02-06 12:17:08 PM
Master of the house
Keeper of the zoo
Ready to relieve 'em
Of a sou or two
Watering the wine
Making up the weight
Pickin' up their knick-knacks
When they can't see straight
Everybody loves a landlord
Everybody's bosom friend
I do whatever pleases
Jesus! Won't I bleed 'em in the end....

Charge 'em for the lice
Extra for the mice
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice
Here a little slice
There a little cut
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut
When it comes to fixing prices
There are a lot of tricks he knows
How it all increases
All those bits and pieces
Jesus! It's amazing how it grows!
 
2004-02-06 12:18:34 PM
The actual cost of a litre of tap water is less than a ten thousandth of a penny according to South West Water.

What a load of crap. If I used 10,000 liters of water, I'm sure my bill would be higher than a penny.
 
2004-02-06 12:18:49 PM
Dammit Son of Thunder

beat me by three minutes. Guess I shouldn't have RTFA
 
2004-02-06 12:18:58 PM
2 pounds for the "costs and labour" for tap water? Get real. It takes, what, half a minute to fill a glass with water. Half a minute to take it to the table. It takes a minute to clean it, and if it's being washed by machine, negligible time. If he's paying his staff 100 pounds an hour, maybe I can see it. Otherwise, he should get stuffed.
 
2004-02-06 12:19:33 PM
I seem to recall that it's against the law for hotels, bars, restaurants etc to charge money for tap water.

So no, I don't think anyone can charge you for water.


You do realize that different jurisdictions have different rules, right? Okay then.

0ok
 
2004-02-06 12:19:45 PM
I don't think they can charge you for tapwater but of coarse they don't have to give it to you either.
 
2004-02-06 12:20:05 PM
Do they charge for the fork,? The same costs are involved.
 
2004-02-06 12:20:19 PM
I waited tables for awhile, so I can sympathize with the guy in this situation. From both the server and the owner's perspective, you have very finite resources. The server can only give good service to so many people at a time and the owner can sell food to maximum number of people based on his staff and seating capacity. Do you really think either of them are going to waste those resources on a nonprofitable customer if they have another option? If I knew someone was gonna screw me, or just take up an inordinate amount of time relative to what they'd pay men, they were definitely going to wait until all of my profitable tables were taken care of first. They'd be lucky if I gave them napkins for free. It's cold, it's mean, but it's simple economics. I'm trying to maximize the conversion of my time into money.
 
2004-02-06 12:20:33 PM
Nice that they included a pic of Basil Fawlty!
 
2004-02-06 12:21:18 PM

MANUEL!
 
2004-02-06 12:21:42 PM
Thanks AbbyNormal for clarifying. I know I'm not the only one who saw that episode!
 
2004-02-06 12:22:05 PM
Oh my god, Fawlty Towers is some funny shiat! Any fans of the series out there? I purchased the DVD box set the day it came out. Worth every penny of $40.
 
2004-02-06 12:23:41 PM
Why couldn't they do what every other place does. They just roll the costs of labor/materials for the free waters into everything else. Do you really think it costs restaurants $1.25 for a coke?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-02-06 12:24:20 PM
I know people who ask for water, a couple lemons, and three tables worth of sugar packets, because they are too cheap to order lemonade.
 
2004-02-06 12:24:35 PM
She asked for some water, she did,
But the restaurateur charged her two Quid.
She kicked up such a stink---
She made everyone think---
She is someone, of whom we're well rid.
 
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