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(Daily Mail)   What do Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common? I mean besides the dating beautiful woman and sometimes acting like a douche. No, not the beds made of money either. Okay, two words: Steve Jobs   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-04-22 09:54:52 AM  
Thank Christ. I thought I was going to have to go through life with only one biopic about Steve Jobs. That's not a world I want to live in.
 
2014-04-22 10:00:54 AM  
How many f*cking biopics do we need about that douche? There's a reason the first movie was such a miserable failure, and it wasn't because of Ashton Kutcher.
 
2014-04-22 10:11:57 AM  
But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.
 
2014-04-22 10:14:41 AM  
I enjoy reading and watching biographies of historical figures. But I bet I wouldn't enjoy it as much if I hadn't seen them on tv a gazillion times just a few years ago.
 
2014-04-22 10:15:19 AM  
It would be nice if we could take all these talented people working on this project and use them for something that isn't a complete waste of time that no one is excited to see.
 
2014-04-22 10:23:08 AM  
I gotta say, the 'Jobs' movie with Ashton Kutcher was really good. I really liked it.

I think the reason people didn't like it was there was no glossing over of non-godlike personality traits. They didn't portray him as the messiah, just a ruthless dude who built a big company. It wasn't an "ALL HAIL OUR LEADER" movie, it seemed to do the story justice.

The acting was good and his mannerisms were actually pretty close. And he actually kinda looked like him.
 
2014-04-22 10:28:01 AM  
Being a douche will give anyone an edge for that role.
 
2014-04-22 10:29:09 AM  

sure haven't: I gotta say, the 'Jobs' movie with Ashton Kutcher was really good. I really liked it.

I think the reason people didn't like it was there was no glossing over of non-godlike personality traits. They didn't portray him as the messiah, just a ruthless dude who built a big company. It wasn't an "ALL HAIL OUR LEADER" movie, it seemed to do the story justice.

The acting was good and his mannerisms were actually pretty close. And he actually kinda looked like him.


I agree with all of this, actually. We watched it on Netflix a couple weeks ago, and while everyone did do a good job, even Kutcher, halfway through I just realized that I didn't give two shiats about Jobs or his life.
 
2014-04-22 10:29:55 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: I really liked it.


Well, I agree with it all except that part.
 
2014-04-22 10:36:35 AM  
Hard to top this one

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-22 10:51:42 AM  
 
2014-04-22 10:56:21 AM  
Alan Sorkin? Did Job's start up garage have enough corridors for the dialog scenes?
 
2014-04-22 11:05:56 AM  

AiryAnne: LemSkroob: Hard to top this one

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x397]

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.1of3

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.2of3

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.3of3

3 Hours and 18 years old, but still fascinating.


never seen this. Thanks for sharing.

Pirates of Silicon Valley is still one of my favorites.
 
2014-04-22 11:08:30 AM  

LemSkroob: Hard to top this one

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x397]


Look, see? Gates was doing the "thumb to chin" thing early on! Jobs stole it!
 
2014-04-22 11:09:24 AM  

sure haven't: I gotta say, the 'Jobs' movie with Ashton Kutcher was really good. I really liked it.

I think the reason people didn't like it was there was no glossing over of non-godlike personality traits. They didn't portray him as the messiah, just a ruthless dude who built a big company. It wasn't an "ALL HAIL OUR LEADER" movie, it seemed to do the story justice.

The acting was good and his mannerisms were actually pretty close. And he actually kinda looked like him.


The movie has several instances where it breaks into a montage of Steve Jobs sitting in a field or in a board room saying wise-sounding things to a bunch of reverent listeners. You say they don't portray him as a Messiah but I left the movie thinking the exact opposite.
 
2014-04-22 11:15:40 AM  

Mugato: Alan Sorkin? Did Job's start up garage have enough corridors for the dialog scenes?


Is that Aaron's less talented brother?
 
2014-04-22 11:19:01 AM  

AiryAnne: LemSkroob: Hard to top this one

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x397]

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.1of3

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.2of3

https://archive.org/details/PBS.Triumph.of.the.Nerds.3of3

3 Hours and 18 years old, but still fascinating.


Best documentary every about silicon valley.
 
2014-04-22 11:23:22 AM  

cobby97: Mugato: Alan Sorkin? Did Job's start up garage have enough corridors for the dialog scenes?

Is that Aaron's less talented brother?


Aaron, my bad.
 
2014-04-22 11:24:47 AM  

Hoboclown: sure haven't: I gotta say, the 'Jobs' movie with Ashton Kutcher was really good. I really liked it.

I think the reason people didn't like it was there was no glossing over of non-godlike personality traits. They didn't portray him as the messiah, just a ruthless dude who built a big company. It wasn't an "ALL HAIL OUR LEADER" movie, it seemed to do the story justice.

The acting was good and his mannerisms were actually pretty close. And he actually kinda looked like him.

The movie has several instances where it breaks into a montage of Steve Jobs sitting in a field or in a board room saying wise-sounding things to a bunch of reverent listeners. You say they don't portray him as a Messiah but I left the movie thinking the exact opposite.


Right but I also think he was a pretty intelligent guy. I wouldn't doubt he held meetings wherein you could hear a pin drop and he talked like he was a wise man. The guy was full of himself with a massive ego. Anyone in that position would almost have to be.  It's also a movie, it has to have structure and a narrative and all that and be entertaining.
 
2014-04-22 11:25:54 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: I agree with all of this, actually. We watched it on Netflix a couple weeks ago, and while everyone did do a good job, even Kutcher, halfway through I just realized that I didn't give two shiats about Jobs or his life.


Haha, fair enough.
 
2014-04-22 11:32:21 AM  
Seems like a relevant image:

img2u.info

/Haven't watched it yet
 
2014-04-22 12:08:43 PM  
I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.
 
2014-04-22 12:08:44 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: sure haven't: I gotta say, the 'Jobs' movie with Ashton Kutcher was really good. I really liked it.

I think the reason people didn't like it was there was no glossing over of non-godlike personality traits. They didn't portray him as the messiah, just a ruthless dude who built a big company. It wasn't an "ALL HAIL OUR LEADER" movie, it seemed to do the story justice.

The acting was good and his mannerisms were actually pretty close. And he actually kinda looked like him.

I agree with all of this, actually. We watched it on Netflix a couple weeks ago, and while everyone did do a good job, even Kutcher, halfway through I just realized that I didn't give two shiats about Jobs or his life.


Sent from my iPhone
 
2014-04-22 12:16:54 PM  

docmattic: Sent from my iPhone


Yep, I have an iPhone, and couldn't care less about the guy who "invented" it.
 
2014-04-22 12:17:52 PM  

LesserEvil: Seems like a relevant image:

[img2u.info image 810x456]

/Haven't watched it yet


It starts a little slow, but by last weeks episode it was fairly hilarious, one joke made me choke on a banana
 
2014-04-22 12:20:38 PM  

Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2014-04-22 12:26:19 PM  

Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.


1/10
 
2014-04-22 12:36:30 PM  

H31N0US: But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.


When you put it that way, it does sound rather pedestrian.  So let's see you do it.  We'll meet back here in 50 years and see what your collaboration has come up with.  I'm excited to see!
 
2014-04-22 12:38:45 PM  

Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.


While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.
 
2014-04-22 12:40:02 PM  

animal900: H31N0US: But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.

When you put it that way, it does sound rather pedestrian.  So let's see you do it.  We'll meet back here in 50 years and see what your collaboration has come up with.  I'm excited to see!


Steve Jobs can't fark you. He's dead.
 
2014-04-22 12:43:10 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.

While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.


If by "excellent" you mean he's learned how to pretentiously chew scenery then sure.
 
2014-04-22 12:46:04 PM  
Leo's going to play an even bigger asshole than he did in Django Unchained?

I sense typecasting.
 
2014-04-22 12:47:11 PM  

Jekylman: Ow! That was my feelings!: Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.

While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.

If by "excellent" you mean he's learned how to pretentiously chew scenery then sure.


Both those characters called for that type of 'performance'. Now, those might be the only roles he is capable of pulling off, but pull them off he did. Not a great actor, but certain roles suit him.
 
2014-04-22 12:53:05 PM  

H31N0US: animal900: H31N0US: But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.

When you put it that way, it does sound rather pedestrian.  So let's see you do it.  We'll meet back here in 50 years and see what your collaboration has come up with.  I'm excited to see!

Steve Jobs can't fark you. He's dead.


He's not really my type.  But really, low hanging fruit non-replies aside, what's stopping you?  Technical skill?  Business acumen?
According to you, it's obviously a simple task to build a multi billion dollar tech giant, so why wouldn't you do it?

Step 1: Take LSD in the desert
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit

Step 2 is why they are making movies about him, just as they will for Bill Gates when he kicks it.  It's an interesting story about someone who did something that the vast majority of us are incapable of.  There's one or two movies with that theme out there.
 
2014-04-22 12:53:57 PM  
So can subby point out the times where Dicaprio acted like a douche? I'm not remembering him doing much more than making mostly entertaining movies and banging hot chicks.

Kutcher on the other hand seems to regularly make news for douchebaggery.
 
2014-04-22 12:58:29 PM  

H31N0US: But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.


i give him tons of credit for being a very hands-on apt businessman... he was like a big cry baby when it came to engineering stuff, but knew what made a sure-fire hit product and that's something the vast majority of businessmen lack - especially in an industry like computing back in the 80's and right after the dot-com bust

it's like having a music producer that doesn't know how to make music but knows how to produce the next beatles every 5 years... that's a crazy trait to have
 
2014-04-22 01:11:26 PM  

animal900: He's not really my type. But really, low hanging fruit non-replies aside, what's stopping you? Technical skill? Business acumen?
According to you, it's obviously a simple task to build a multi billion dollar tech giant, so why wouldn't you do it?


2014 is a lot different than 1974.  The computer and technology industries are very mature at this point, which makes infiltration by newcomers (who aren't conglomerates with gobs of money) very difficult.

The success that Jobs experienced was as much luck and timing as it was savvy business skill.  Apple got in at the ground floor of personal computing.  Had Acorn, Atari or Commodore been better managed and better marketed, there is a good chance Apple and NeXT could have folded in the mid 90s.
 
2014-04-22 01:15:47 PM  

Jekylman: Ow! That was my feelings!: Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.

While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.

If by "excellent" you mean he's learned how to pretentiously chew scenery then sure.


Jesus christ. "Pretentiously chew scenery". Please hit yourself in the head with a hammer until you forget how to use a computer.
 
2014-04-22 01:27:54 PM  

Dinjiin: animal900: He's not really my type. But really, low hanging fruit non-replies aside, what's stopping you? Technical skill? Business acumen?
According to you, it's obviously a simple task to build a multi billion dollar tech giant, so why wouldn't you do it?

2014 is a lot different than 1974.  The computer and technology industries are very mature at this point, which makes infiltration by newcomers (who aren't conglomerates with gobs of money) very difficult.

The success that Jobs experienced was as much luck and timing as it was savvy business skill.  Apple got in at the ground floor of personal computing.  Had Acorn, Atari or Commodore been better managed and better marketed, there is a good chance Apple and NeXT could have folded in the mid 90s.


Nonsense, we've seen meteoric rises from Google and Facebook in the last 10 years.  It's still luck and timing, and it's still doable.  I even spotted him 10 years to get it done.
 
2014-04-22 01:33:25 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Jekylman: Ow! That was my feelings!: Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.

While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.

If by "excellent" you mean he's learned how to pretentiously chew scenery then sure.

Both those characters called for that type of 'performance'. Now, those might be the only roles he is capable of pulling off, but pull them off he did. Not a great actor, but certain roles suit him.


Fair point. I think there are other actors who could have done just as well or better in those roles, but I get what you're saying.
 
2014-04-22 01:47:30 PM  

browntimmy: Jekylman: Ow! That was my feelings!: Li'l Robbie: I know something Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio have in common...a lack of
acting skill.

While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.

If by "excellent" you mean he's learned how to pretentiously chew scenery then sure.

Jesus christ. "Pretentiously chew scenery". Please hit yourself in the head with a hammer until you forget how to use a computer.


Gatsby. Gatsby. Gatsby.

Nope, it's not working.
 
2014-04-22 02:12:48 PM  
Didn't Noah Wylie (of ER and Falling Skies) play him in the TV movie, years and years ago? With Anthony Michael Hall as Gates?

Or did I imagine that?
 
2014-04-22 02:16:15 PM  

killzoe: LesserEvil: Seems like a relevant image:

[img2u.info image 810x456]

/Haven't watched it yet

It starts a little slow, but by last weeks episode it was fairly hilarious, one joke made me choke on a banana


Kinky.
 
2014-04-22 02:37:19 PM  
No offense to Kutcher's taste in women, because they are lightyears above my own capabilities, but Leo treats the Victoria's Secret website like online dating.

On the film, you have to wonder how much of an insult it is to Kutcher that he made a Jobs movie and everyone's like "Yeah... so, we're going to do a real Jobs movie now." If the new film is less about hero worship and more of a realistic telling of Jobs' story, then I'm in.
 
2014-04-22 02:40:05 PM  
This is great viral marketing for the movie. You only have to mention Jobs in a headline to get dozens of losers frothing at the mouth and parroting lame anti-Jobs propaganda.
 
2014-04-22 03:53:16 PM  

AdamK: H31N0US: But he was so revolutionary. He invented the PC. He invented the portable music player. He invented the touch screen.

Except he invented none of those things, he hired an outside design firm and built a great marketing team.

i give him tons of credit for being a very hands-on apt businessman... he was like a big cry baby when it came to engineering stuff, but knew what made a sure-fire hit product and that's something the vast majority of businessmen lack - especially in an industry like computing back in the 80's and right after the dot-com bust

it's like having a music producer that doesn't know how to make music but knows how to produce the next beatles every 5 years... that's a crazy trait to have


That's a good analogy. He understood technology could be intimidating and to his credit tried his best to make it accessible to people who normally wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Hardly movie worthy material. Well at least two people in this thread will be buying tickets.
 
2014-04-22 05:21:18 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: While I'll agree on Kutcher, I really think DiCaprio has greatly improved his skill set. He's a long ways from Titanic and Gangs, he was excellent in Django and Wolf.


Well as I hated DiCaprio's biatch ass in Titanic, that was from the shiatty script. Titanic was among the worst major motion picture script in the last 20 years. Since then he's become an okay actor. Kutcher is an idiot but that's his shtick, doesn't make him a bad actor.
 
2014-04-22 05:40:44 PM  

bingethinker: This is great viral marketing for the movie. You only have to mention Jobs in a headline to get dozens of losers frothing at the mouth and parroting lame anti-Jobs propaganda.


Not to mention the internet hipsters who white-knight the dead douche.

/you're posting it wrong
 
2014-04-22 06:57:03 PM  

peterthx: bingethinker: This is great viral marketing for the movie. You only have to mention Jobs in a headline to get dozens of losers frothing at the mouth and parroting lame anti-Jobs propaganda.

Not to mention the internet hipsters who white-knight the dead douche.

/you're posting it wrong


If people knew how stupid they looked every time they called someone a "hipster"....they wouldn't give a shiat and would still call people hipsters.
 
2014-04-22 08:11:32 PM  

Mugato: If people knew how stupid they looked every time they called someone a "hipster"....they wouldn't give a shiat and would still call people hipsters.


You're right, I don't give a shiat.

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