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(BBC-US)   For you Libs who said the Iraq war wasn't worth it, Halliburton just posted $622,000,000 in profits   (bbc.com ) divider line
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2014-04-21 10:14:23 PM  
Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.
 
2014-04-21 10:24:43 PM  
So what we had thousands dead and tens of thousands wounded. Executives are getting awesome bonuses!
 
2014-04-21 10:30:58 PM  
A speech I would have liked to hear:

"My fellow Americans, we as a nation cannot sit idly by while a corrupt Russian president invades a sovereign nation. I have ordered the secretary of the treasury to put a freeze on all assets of the Russian Republic in any bank headquartered or doing business in the US. I have directed the Department of Energy to work with our nation's abundant energy producers to make every effort to immediately begin large-scale shipments of LNG to any ally who will join our economic embargo of this unlawful act by President Putin.

For those who would say the United States lacks the moral authority to question one nation invading another without cause or provocation, I say this: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America."
 
2014-04-21 10:46:02 PM  

SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.


The important thing is that a few rich people are even richer now.  Yay war!!
 
2014-04-21 10:49:34 PM  

SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.


The dead are dead. They cannot be helped. We may mourn for them, yes, but ultimately we must move on and not dwell upon the past. We should instead look at the present, and at those who are alive and here now. And the Halliburton executives who are alive and here now are much richer than they were before the Iraq war and we should be happy for them. Resenting their good fortune out of jealousy does us no good.
 
2014-04-21 10:51:41 PM  
And people thought it was about oil.....
 
2014-04-21 10:59:33 PM  
That money will trickle down to the rest of us any day now. I know this to be true because conservatives said so.
 
2014-04-21 11:25:52 PM  
I didn't see Iraq mentioned in TFA...
 
2014-04-21 11:38:50 PM  
Sadly, a human life has a price tag. Last I checked it was like $125k.
 
2014-04-21 11:41:36 PM  

Dimensio: SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.

The dead are dead. They cannot be helped. We may mourn for them, yes, but ultimately we must move on and not dwell upon the past. We should instead look at the present, and at those who are alive and here now. And the Halliburton executives who are alive and here now are much richer than they were before the Iraq war and we should be happy for them. Resenting their good fortune out of jealousy does us no good.


We do what we must because we can, for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.
 
2014-04-21 11:55:01 PM  
How can these sociopaths live with themselves knowing....I guess I just answered my own question.
 
2014-04-21 11:57:04 PM  
This sort of shiate gives me a military industrial complex.
 
2014-04-22 12:14:56 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Dimensio: SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.

The dead are dead. They cannot be helped. We may mourn for them, yes, but ultimately we must move on and not dwell upon the past. We should instead look at the present, and at those who are alive and here now. And the Halliburton executives who are alive and here now are much richer than they were before the Iraq war and we should be happy for them. Resenting their good fortune out of jealousy does us no good.

We do what we must because we can, for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.


kencourse.com
 
2014-04-22 12:32:29 AM  
Laugh while you can, Canada
 
2014-04-22 12:53:15 AM  
TuteTibiImperes:

We do what we must because we can, for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.

Everyone's seen it but:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5TuxdkfkE

Haliburton, legacy, et al...
 
2014-04-22 01:22:27 AM  
Trolly headline

I think I give it a 7/10.
 
2014-04-22 01:49:48 AM  
I came here for cman's headline rating.  Leaving satisfied.
 
2014-04-22 02:16:53 AM  
Came here for staplermofo's satisfaction at cman's headline rating. Leaving... well, just leaving.
 
2014-04-22 03:36:31 AM  
I came here to see what the new comments were, and they were fitting, I was already yawning my head off. Leaving sleepified.
 
2014-04-22 04:27:46 AM  
Why am I here? Dammit.
 
2014-04-22 04:39:59 AM  
I came here looking for my pants. Leaving pantsless.
 
2014-04-22 05:16:37 AM  
That really doesn't sound like all that much. Not commenting at all on Halliburton's role in Iraq, but I really would have guessed they'd earn a lot more. That's like 1/10 a Zuckerberg, or just a really good Power ball jackpot.
 
2014-04-22 05:20:48 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: That really doesn't sound like all that much. Not commenting at all on Halliburton's role in Iraq, but I really would have guessed they'd earn a lot more. That's like 1/10 a Zuckerberg, or just a really good Power ball jackpot.


Well, profits, not revenue. They could have really shiatty margins.
 
2014-04-22 05:47:53 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Three Crooked Squirrels: That really doesn't sound like all that much. Not commenting at all on Halliburton's role in Iraq, but I really would have guessed they'd earn a lot more. That's like 1/10 a Zuckerberg, or just a really good Power ball jackpot.

Well, profits, not revenue. They could have really shiatty margins.


Also, isnt Halliburton one of those former US companies that moved their HQ off-shore to avoid taxes?  Who knows what their real books look like....
 
2014-04-22 06:40:13 AM  
This good news will be a great source of comfort to the families of the dead.
 
2014-04-22 06:43:31 AM  
Each Koch brother made 10 times that.

Each.
 
2014-04-22 06:52:25 AM  
The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?
 
2014-04-22 06:53:53 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.

The important thing is that a few rich people are even richer now.  Yay war!!


When they said the Iraq War would pay for itself, they meant the bigwigs would get even bigger bonuses than usual!
 
2014-04-22 06:54:09 AM  

MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.


Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.
 
2014-04-22 06:54:36 AM  
Came here for the latest on the Bryan Singer thing. Will check back later.
 
2014-04-22 07:00:00 AM  

Dimensio: SilentStrider: Well that totally makes up for the thousands of American lives lost, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost.

The dead are dead. They cannot be helped. We may mourn for them, yes, but ultimately we must move on and not dwell upon the past. We should instead look at the present, and at those who are alive and here now. And the Halliburton executives who are alive and here now are much richer than they were before the Iraq war and we should be happy for them. Resenting their good fortune out of jealousy does us no good.


I realize this was sarcasm, but don't tell that to the 9/11-Industrial Complex.
 
2014-04-22 07:03:05 AM  

RexTalionis: MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.


You never get that, you get the "we can't look back, just look forward" which then entitles every administration to do shiatty things because they know nothing will ever happen to them.
 
2014-04-22 07:08:00 AM  

You Are All Sheep: RexTalionis: MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.

You never get that, you get the "we can't look back, just look forward" which then entitles every administration to do shiatty things because they know nothing will ever happen to them.


Here's the thing - if you create this precedent, where does it end? If there is a Republican President after Obama, do you want the precedent where the next President decides to indict Obama for something or the other?
 
2014-04-22 07:08:58 AM  

theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?


Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.
 
2014-04-22 07:14:14 AM  

RexTalionis: MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.


So, basically, by your "logic" even if the previous president and his administration committed demonstrable crimes, nothing can ever be done b/c it creates a "precedent." Great logic.
 
2014-04-22 07:15:38 AM  
Incidentally, if you're still curious as to whether Iraq was worth it, or just need to elevate your blood pressure a bit, be sure to read this. It's long, but tl:dr: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Except the new boss is also working hand in glove with Iran this time.
 
2014-04-22 07:16:26 AM  

You Are All Sheep: RexTalionis: MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.

You never get that, you get the "we can't look back, just look forward" which then entitles every administration to do shiatty things because they know nothing will ever happen to them.


Yes.  I don't care about 'precedent'...if an administration has done things illegally, or borderline illegally, I would like other countries to know that we take our leaders to task.  By Bush attacking iraq for nothing, killing americans and iraqis by the thousands, we are just as guilty as him by letting him paint feet afterwards.
 
2014-04-22 07:16:37 AM  
I think you all are forgetting that, as an employer of more than 50,000, Halliburton qualifies for Corporate Gold status with the US Government, and as a result is immune to and not bound by any US law or treaty. Further, by publicly mocking or complaining about Halliburton, you all have activated Halliburton's Trap Card. Everyone but cman is now an indentured servant of Halliburton Worldwide, and Corporate Security will visit your home within the next 48 hours, to process your re-assignment to Munitions Testing.
 
2014-04-22 07:17:45 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?

Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.


I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.
 
2014-04-22 07:19:48 AM  

theknuckler_33: AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?

Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.

I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.


But you'll admit that their briefcases are pretty awesome. The brushed aluminum looks snazzy and the abundance of internal pockets make it extremely versatile.

Better than that ballistic nylon crap Tumi produces, that's for sure.
 
2014-04-22 07:21:45 AM  

Frederick: And people thought it was about oil.....


Cheap oil was supposed to be the instant gratification, the long-term payoff was to turn Iraq into a grateful, pro-American state that would serve as a catalyst for Westernization.  Remember these people?

www.rightweb.irc-online.org

This think tank had a number of supporters - Richard Armitage, John Bolton, Scooter Libby, and some other overzealous staffers in the Bush Administration named Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz.

/I absolutely do not subscribe to any conspiracy theory about PNAC intentionally facilitating a "New Pearl Harbor", because that's not even a half-step from Truther territory, or believing that FDR knowingly allowed the Japanese to destroy Pearl Harbor.  But they were opportunists of the highest order.
 
2014-04-22 07:22:41 AM  
What does this article have to do with a war that ended years ago?

blogs.telegraph.co.uk

Oh, right...
 
2014-04-22 07:24:09 AM  

RexTalionis: MisterTweak: I have ordered the Department of Justice to take former President George W. Bush, Vice Predident Richard Cheney, and numerous persons named in this indictment into custody, to be remanded to a neutral party who will give them a just and public trial. The United States is a nation of laws, and no person, no officeholder, is exempt from those laws. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Yes, let's create a precedent where a sitting president indicts and imprisons a previous administration. That can't ever go wrong.


When the previous administration started wars for profit and condoned torturing prisoners of war, I'm okay with this.
 
2014-04-22 07:26:48 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?

Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.

I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.

But you'll admit that their briefcases are pretty awesome. The brushed aluminum looks snazzy and the abundance of internal pockets make it extremely versatile.

Better than that ballistic nylon crap Tumi produces, that's for sure.


Yea, I think Hellen Keller kept her diary in one when she was hiding out in that attic.
 
2014-04-22 07:29:45 AM  
theknuckler_33:  I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.

Really?
 
2014-04-22 07:30:36 AM  

theknuckler_33: AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?

Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.

I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.


As long as they've got construction, maintenance, and training contracts with the Iraqi government, they'll still be making money off of the Iraq war. As long as they're getting paid by the US and Iraqi govs to provide logistical support to bases, they'll be making money off the Iraq war. You can't just think about the war itself; you need to consider the contracts that war enabled them to make, and those will live on for a long, long time.
 
2014-04-22 07:33:01 AM  
So is the Iraq talking point now "We know it was bad, but it was soooooo long ago!" ??
 
2014-04-22 07:33:32 AM  
You know who else supports Halliburton?

p1.la-img.com
 
2014-04-22 07:34:09 AM  

corq: TuteTibiImperes:

We do what we must because we can, for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.

Everyone's seen it but:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5TuxdkfkE

Haliburton, legacy, et al...


I prefer this version

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sara+quin+still+alive
 
2014-04-22 07:42:36 AM  

markfara: theknuckler_33:  I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.

Really?


Heron: theknuckler_33: AverageAmericanGuy: theknuckler_33: The Iraq/Halliburton connection is despicable, but this is Q1 of 2014... are we going to 'blame' their profits on Iraq forever?

Seriously. You know, they make really great suitcases.

I was just making the very narrow point that they're not making money on the Iraq war any more. That's all.

As long as they've got construction, maintenance, and training contracts with the Iraqi government, they'll still be making money off of the Iraq war. As long as they're getting paid by the US and Iraqi govs to provide logistical support to bases, they'll be making money off the Iraq war. You can't just think about the war itself; you need to consider the contracts that war enabled them to make, and those will live on for a long, long time.


Do they still have such contracts? I have no problem admitting I am/was wrong. I did a few searches before I posted and didn't find anything particularly recent indicating that they were still working in Iraq.
 
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