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2014-04-22 12:13:49 AM
She also vehemently shut down suggestions that the lawsuits were a quick grab at fame and fortune, especially given that Singer's forthcoming "X-Men" film is due out in theaters in a few weeks.

Or the fact that he's working with someone on a "Hollywood Sex Ring" documentary.
 
2014-04-22 12:56:05 AM
Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.
 
2014-04-22 01:03:11 AM

propasaurus: Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.


Much like the submissions about this story that Fark's been greenlighting like crazy?
 
2014-04-22 03:09:47 AM

propasaurus: Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.


I disagree. There's way too much of a sense of the dam bursting on this one. This isn't just one guy making a money grab. He just pulled out the keystone and the avalanche is starting.

There's going to be a lot of careers left in ruins, and this is going to have some significant impacts on Hollywood overall.
 
2014-04-22 03:21:10 AM

Cyclometh: I disagree. There's way too much of a sense of the dam bursting on this one. This isn't just one guy making a money grab. He just pulled out the keystone and the avalanche is starting.

There's going to be a lot of careers left in ruins, and this is going to have some significant impacts on Hollywood overall.


Agree on the first part, not sure on the second - money tends to sweep everything under the rug. Hopefully I am wrong.
 
2014-04-22 04:15:11 AM

vartian: money tends to sweep everything under the rug


Penn State spent $60 million to get 26 people to sign non-disclosure agreements. But really, it was just one old guy with an active basement. Honest.
 
2014-04-22 04:24:36 AM
Remember in the 80s when people were freaked out about Satanic sex cults kidnapping and molesting children, if not murdering them too?

This is all that except real. The sex ring is real.
 
2014-04-22 04:53:51 AM
I used to work (distantly) for David at Current TV so I'm really getting a kick out of this.
 
2014-04-22 04:55:58 AM
www.comicbookmovie.com
 
2014-04-22 05:00:57 AM
That's "quadrupling down", Subby.
 
Skr
2014-04-22 05:01:07 AM
Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.
 
2014-04-22 05:07:46 AM

Skr: Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.


This hasn't been proven yet. All we have are Singer's claims of not being in Hawaii, based on alleged credit card charges. We've no proof he was even in possession of those credit cards at the time. Doesn't help that this guy is farking notorious for his...proclivities.
 
2014-04-22 05:11:16 AM
The original X-Men movie sucked, too.
 
2014-04-22 05:15:05 AM
Stories like this rarely surprise me.  In his autobiography, Corey Feldman mentioned that he was molested  many times as a child actor, and he was that it was "just the way things are done in Hollywood."

Also, when Drew Barrymore appeared on the Arsenio Hall show on the early 1990s after getting out of rehab, she mentioned that when she was 12 or 13 years old she was taken to a Hollywood party and passed around like a piece of meat by several older men.  It was very telling that Arsenio Hall did not look shocked or even surprised by the news.

There's a reason why so many celebrities rush to the defense of Roman Polanski.  If Polanski felt like he was being thrown under the bus, he could start naming names of other Hollywood pedos.
 
2014-04-22 05:15:26 AM

Skr: Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.


that was the last I had heard. and until that is shown to be wrong, I'm leaning towards "this is all bullshiat".
 
2014-04-22 05:21:24 AM

darkjezter: Stories like this rarely surprise me.  In his autobiography, Corey Feldman mentioned that he was molested  many times as a child actor, and he was that it was "just the way things are done in Hollywood."

Also, when Drew Barrymore appeared on the Arsenio Hall show on the early 1990s after getting out of rehab, she mentioned that when she was 12 or 13 years old she was taken to a Hollywood party and passed around like a piece of meat by several older men.  It was very telling that Arsenio Hall did not look shocked or even surprised by the news.

There's a reason why so many celebrities rush to the defense of Roman Polanski.  If Polanski felt like he was being thrown under the bus, he could start naming names of other Hollywood pedos.


Fark, Shirley Temple had the same damned stories. We're talking about LA. This is how things work there. God forbid you have the wrong politics, but sex with minors...tolerance, yay!
 
2014-04-22 05:24:16 AM
The comment section in that article is amazingly derpy.
 
2014-04-22 05:34:59 AM

CTZanderman: The comment section in that article is amazingly derpy.


Fark, how many things did you have to allow to even see the comments? Even after 4 'temporarily allow all's, I still couldn't see comments.
 
2014-04-22 05:57:55 AM
1) Innocent until proven guilty
2) Every abused person should be able to air their complaints without prejudice.
3) Let the courts make judgment
4) Then double check the courts work.
 
2014-04-22 06:02:27 AM
I didn't allow anything!  Ad blocker is still going strong.  Most of it is nonsensical stuff involving homosexuals running hollywood or libruls allowings mooslims to take over the country thanks to Obama.

NOW THAT THE MUSLIMS ARE BECOMING A SIGNIFICANT POWER THANKS TO LIBERALS ..... THE DOWNSIDE: THE FINAL SOLUTION FOR THE GAYS WILL BE VICIOUS.
OH, WELL .

-------

If you threw all the Hollywood "Perps" in jail, there would be no one left to donate to the DNC,
or slip money to Obama when he comes to California begging for cash.


Who comes up with this stuff?
 
2014-04-22 06:05:53 AM

Darth_Lukecash: 1) Innocent until proven guilty
2) Every abused person should be able to air their complaints without prejudice.
3) Let the courts make judgment
4) Then double check the courts work.


Agreed, Let's not go all Nancy Grace on this.
 
2014-04-22 06:19:27 AM
Round up the usual suspects.

I hope at the end it turns out the ringleader was Kevin Spacey all along. What a twist.
 
2014-04-22 06:41:28 AM

you are a puppet: Round up the usual suspects.

I hope at the end it turns out the ringleader was Kevin Spacey all along. What a twist.


Kevin Spacey's love for twinks is one of the worst-kept secrets in Hollywood, so it wouldn't be a huge shock if there were a couple of underage boys in his history.
 
2014-04-22 06:44:11 AM
I always hear this shiat about how there is this huge pedo ring in Hollywood but never find any substantial information to read about.
 
2014-04-22 06:48:56 AM

log_jammin: Skr: Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.

that was the last I had heard. and until that is shown to be wrong, I'm leaning towards "this is all bullshiat".


This guy's lawyer is a high dollar sex abuse attorney, for that reason I have the feeling he investigated the claims thoroughly before laying these accusations. I'd be shocked if it was 100% baseless (they weren't in any of the places where the victim says they were, never knew the guy, and so on)
 
2014-04-22 06:51:48 AM
Egan's mother, Bonnie, also attended the press conference and sobbed profusely as she spoke of how and why she trusted certain industry minders to take care of her son, but that he was ultimately led astray. She also vehemently shut down suggestions that the lawsuits were a quick grab at fame and fortune, especially given that Singer's forthcoming "X-Men" film is due out in theaters in a few weeks.

"I want to do this so no parent or child has to sit there, this is about disarming pedophiles," she cried.


So she'll make sure any settlement cash goes to help victims of child sexual abuse. Got it.
 
2014-04-22 06:55:56 AM

pedobearapproved: log_jammin: Skr: Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.

that was the last I had heard. and until that is shown to be wrong, I'm leaning towards "this is all bullshiat".

This guy's lawyer is a high dollar sex abuse attorney, for that reason I have the feeling he investigated the claims thoroughly before laying these accusations. I'd be shocked if it was 100% baseless (they weren't in any of the places where the victim says they were, never knew the guy, and so on)


Oh my mind isn't made up. I'm just going on the little bit I've seen so far.
 
2014-04-22 06:58:01 AM

darkjezter: Stories like this rarely surprise me.  In his autobiography, Corey Feldman mentioned that he was molested  many times as a child actor, and he was that it was "just the way things are done in Hollywood."

Also, when Drew Barrymore appeared on the Arsenio Hall show on the early 1990s after getting out of rehab, she mentioned that when she was 12 or 13 years old she was taken to a Hollywood party and passed around like a piece of meat by several older men.  It was very telling that Arsenio Hall did not look shocked or even surprised by the news.

There's a reason why so many celebrities rush to the defense of Roman Polanski.  If Polanski felt like he was being thrown under the bus, he could start naming names of other Hollywood pedos.


I'd still let Roman Polanski babysit my hypothetical teenage daughter over Mel Gibson.
 
2014-04-22 07:11:20 AM
On the one hand, this has all the red flags of a broken person fabulating stories to explain away their state. On the other hand, after Penn State and the Catholic Church, I would hesitate to say what he's saying is impossible. And the fact that his latest round of accusations are against people who are not well known outside the industry makes him more credible IMO.

I am surprised though -- and I know I shouldn't be -- at the number of people who are so certain that they know the truth.
 
2014-04-22 07:13:46 AM

Darth_Lukecash: 1) Innocent until proven guilty
2) Every abused person should be able to air their complaints without prejudice.
3) Let the courts make judgment
4) Then double check the courts work.


I agree with this, but there's two things that bother me about this.
The guy was talking to a documentary maker like 2 years ago but waits until now to go to the authorities; people are saying it's a grab for some of the new X-Men movie cash, but isn't the documentary also about completed... so in terms of reasonable doubt, there's reason to consider this is publicity.
The second thing is this line from the article:  Herman [the accuser's attorney] also noted that more victims are preparing to speak out in the coming weeks.It just reads like they're working on finding people that could give some credible finger pointing.

I'm not saying I believe anything did or did not happen... I'm just saying that press conferences to point fingers before trials seems to taint the pursuit of justice rather than help it. Coming forward means going to the authorities, not the media.
 
2014-04-22 07:14:13 AM
Egan's mother, Bonnie, also attended the press conference and sobbed profusely as she spoke of how and why she trusted certain industry minders to take care of her son, but that he was ultimately led astray.

This doesn't add up. Why would her (age 15-17) son have been meeting with the heads of CNN and BBC?
 
2014-04-22 07:27:32 AM

Cyclometh: propasaurus: Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.

I disagree. There's way too much of a sense of the dam bursting on this one. This isn't just one guy making a money grab. He just pulled out the keystone and the avalanche is starting.

There's going to be a lot of careers left in ruins, and this is going to have some significant impacts on Hollywood overall.


I might agree if there was more than one complainant.
 
2014-04-22 07:29:06 AM

markfara: Egan's mother, Bonnie, also attended the press conference and sobbed profusely as she spoke of how and why she trusted certain industry minders to take care of her son, but that he was ultimately led astray. She also vehemently shut down suggestions that the lawsuits were a quick grab at fame and fortune, especially given that Singer's forthcoming "X-Men" film is due out in theaters in a few weeks.

"I want to do this so no parent or child has to sit there, this is about disarming pedophiles," she cried.

So she'll make sure any settlement cash goes to help victims of child sexual abuse. Got it.


Even if they disarm the pedophiles, they will still be able to poke at things with their penises.
 
2014-04-22 07:44:31 AM

Semantic Warrior: Darth_Lukecash: 1) Innocent until proven guilty
2) Every abused person should be able to air their complaints without prejudice.
3) Let the courts make judgment
4) Then double check the courts work.

I agree with this, but there's two things that bother me about this.
The guy was talking to a documentary maker like 2 years ago but waits until now to go to the authorities; people are saying it's a grab for some of the new X-Men movie cash, but isn't the documentary also about completed... so in terms of reasonable doubt, there's reason to consider this is publicity.
The second thing is this line from the article:  Herman [the accuser's attorney] also noted that more victims are preparing to speak out in the coming weeks.It just reads like they're working on finding people that could give some credible finger pointing.

I'm not saying I believe anything did or did not happen... I'm just saying that press conferences to point fingers before trials seems to taint the pursuit of justice rather than help it. Coming forward means going to the authorities, not the media.



I wonder if the lawsuit is a maneuver to keep anyone from blocking the documentary's release. I remember Nick Casavettes jumping through a bunch of hoops to get "Alpha Dog" released. There was some controversy then of lawyers seeking an injunction since the killer in the movie was based on a real person who, at the time, had not been arrested or charged with any crime. Since Singer also has not been charged with any crime, and likely this guy made some pretty damning accusations on film, it makes sense that this lawsuit would be filed simply so the documentary could be released with a disclaimer that legal action is still pending.

The main thing that has a shot at clearing Singer will be the pre-production and production reports from the set of the first X-Men.  I assume that the director, especially one who is also producing, would have to sign off on many, if not all of those.  I have a tough tiime believing that a filmmaker who had only made 2 low-budget movies would fark off to Hawaii when he was supposed to be working on a mega-budget summer blockbuster that could kill his career. Even Tarantino knows to put away the hookers and blow when it's time to go to work.
 
2014-04-22 07:47:35 AM
For everybody claiming that he is lying and that this is a cash grab.....

"I want to do this so no parent or child has to sit there, this is about disarming pedophiles," she cried, adding that she found out about the abuse when her son was 17 and went to the authorities but "nothing happened."

The FBI has said it could not discuss specifically what Egan told them, however, the agency denied last week that it had ignored any information about Singer.

"The suggestion that the FBI ignored a minor victim, or evidence involving the sexual victimization of a child, is ludicrous," FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said in a statement. She reiterated the statement to the Associated Press after Egan's news conference Monday.


It does seem that he went to the police when he was 17, he is now 31, and for what ever reason nothing became of his comments. That statement from the FBI suggest that they know of him and know about the allegations he made. So it doesn't seem that this is coming from left field.
 
2014-04-22 07:56:18 AM
Well, the good news is that no matter what happens, he can still make hit movies from the safety of the more sexually liberated Europe.
 
2014-04-22 07:58:29 AM

Chris Ween: Well, the good news is that no matter what happens, he can still make hit movies from the safety of the more sexually liberated Europe.


You have to be criminally charged to become a fugitive from justice. Singer isn't, and given the statute of limitations in HI and CA, probably won't be.
 
2014-04-22 08:06:27 AM

Chris Ween: Well, the good news is that no matter what happens, he can still make hit movies from the safety of the more sexually liberated Europe.


So, Fox will let him direct the Excalibur movies, instead?
 
2014-04-22 08:06:31 AM

Semantic Warrior: I'm not saying I believe anything did or did not happen... I'm just saying that press conferences to point fingers before trials seems to taint the pursuit of justice rather than help it. Coming forward means going to the authorities, not the media.


You said it yourself in your previous paragraph... when an (alleged) victim comes forward by going to the media, it can inspire other (alleged) victims to share their own stories.

It can also be a useful pressure tactic in cases where an (alleged) victim went to the authorities, but nothing was done.
 
2014-04-22 08:09:05 AM

Cyclometh: propasaurus: Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.

I disagree. There's way too much of a sense of the dam bursting on this one. This isn't just one guy making a money grab. He just pulled out the keystone and the avalanche is starting.

There's going to be a lot of careers left in ruins, and this is going to have some significant impacts on Hollywood overall.


Haven't heard anything except rumors and accusations, if it wasn't a money grab then why didn't anyone come forward a decade ago or since? No entertainment website wouldn't have loved to get their hands on a story like this? Please, this is a money grab plain and simple.

My guess is they knew what was going on, lied about his age at the time and has always been gay but wanted movie roles, then when they didn't materialize they went after cash.
 
2014-04-22 08:10:05 AM

stoli n coke: Chris Ween: Well, the good news is that no matter what happens, he can still make hit movies from the safety of the more sexually liberated Europe.

You have to be criminally charged to become a fugitive from justice. Singer isn't, and given the statute of limitations in HI and CA, probably won't be.


I remember something from a previous article about part of the reason it was filed in HI is because that state puts a hold on the statute of limitations once a charge is filed. I dunno, something like that.

/IANAL
//Don't even play one on FARK
 
2014-04-22 08:11:44 AM
Maybe the authorities didn't act because there wasn't any evidence. Unless you buy into the possibility that Bryan Singer is as powerful and intimidating to the FBI as Courtney Love was after she killed Kurt.

/which, by the way, he most definitely IS NOT!!!!!!
 
2014-04-22 08:14:29 AM

ongbok: For everybody claiming that he is lying and that this is a cash grab.....

"I want to do this so no parent or child has to sit there, this is about disarming pedophiles," she cried, adding that she found out about the abuse when her son was 17 and went to the authorities but "nothing happened."

The FBI has said it could not discuss specifically what Egan told them, however, the agency denied last week that it had ignored any information about Singer.

"The suggestion that the FBI ignored a minor victim, or evidence involving the sexual victimization of a child, is ludicrous," FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said in a statement. She reiterated the statement to the Associated Press after Egan's news conference Monday.

It does seem that he went to the police when he was 17, he is now 31, and for what ever reason nothing became of his comments. That statement from the FBI suggest that they know of him and know about the allegations he made. So it doesn't seem that this is coming from left field.


Here's my issue, there has been barely a hint from this out of any media site over the years.

Plenty of sites would have loved to be all over this years ago, its known Singer likes twinkish men but underage is a huge story.
 
2014-04-22 08:16:40 AM

markfara: Maybe the authorities didn't act because there wasn't any evidence. Unless you buy into the possibility that Bryan Singer is as powerful and intimidating to the FBI as Courtney Love was after she killed Kurt.

/which, by the way, he most definitely IS NOT!!!!!!


At that time? Not really he wasn't, a year or two after the X-Men film? Yeah, since he pretty much revived the superhero film genre.

Just waiting on actual evidence instead of just names.
 
2014-04-22 08:19:05 AM

propasaurus: Throwing shiat against the wall to see what sticks.


Just because it's unseemly and opportunistic doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Skr: Their lawyers are already preparing evidence that the accused Were not even in the State at the time of the alleged abuse.


It wouldn't be the first time wealthy people were able to buy an airtight, and completely fabricated, alibi.
 
2014-04-22 08:19:29 AM

Semantic Warrior: I'm not saying I believe anything did or did not happen... I'm just saying that press conferences to point fingers before trials seems to taint the pursuit of justice rather than help it. Coming forward means going to the authorities, not the media.


To my knowledge, there is no criminal charges being filed.  It's all civil suits.  You could explain that away by saying that the statute of limitations on the crime expired years ago, but still.  Even if "justice is served" for this Egan guy, it's a monetary reward.
 
2014-04-22 08:21:06 AM

czetie: On the one hand, this has all the red flags of a broken person fabulating stories to explain away their state. On the other hand, after Penn State and the Catholic Church, I would hesitate to say what he's saying is impossible. And the fact that his latest round of accusations are against people who are not well known outside the industry makes him more credible IMO.

I am surprised though -- and I know I shouldn't be -- at the number of people who are so certain that they know the truth.


Sure, anything's possible. Like searching the internets for names of power players in Hollywood. Or like having friends in the industry who drop names and tell stories they heard.

Credulity isn't the same as compassion.
 
2014-04-22 08:22:36 AM

steamingpile: markfara: Maybe the authorities didn't act because there wasn't any evidence. Unless you buy into the possibility that Bryan Singer is as powerful and intimidating to the FBI as Courtney Love was after she killed Kurt.

/which, by the way, he most definitely IS NOT!!!!!!

At that time? Not really he wasn't, a year or two after the X-Men film? Yeah, since he pretty much revived the superhero film genre.

Just waiting on actual evidence instead of just names.


I need to start putting tongue-in-cheek emoticons after my posts. Does anyone know how to make a cool one?
 
2014-04-22 08:23:46 AM

darkjezter: Stories like this rarely surprise me.  In his autobiography, Corey Feldman mentioned that he was molested  many times as a child actor, and he was that it was "just the way things are done in Hollywood."


Marty Weiss, was the name of a guy who sucked of corey haim while filming the lost boys according to Corey Feldman's book.

Here's a follow up http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/youth-talent-manager-martin-weiss-ple a ds-no-contest-sentenced-in-molestation-case/
 
2014-04-22 08:25:56 AM
Innocent, I tells yaa
 
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