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(Metro)   Scientists pinpoint where the first chili crop ever was grown. THAT'S HOT   (metro.co.uk) divider line 82
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2014-04-21 11:30:48 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-21 11:40:21 PM  
Fark you subby for reminding me Paris Hilton still exists.
 
2014-04-22 01:15:13 AM  

PreMortem: Fark you subby for reminding me Paris Hilton still exists.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-22 01:30:40 AM  
God whatever did happen to Paris Hilton?

Is she slacking fries at Carl's Jr?
 
2014-04-22 01:34:37 AM  
My favorite chili is the Chiltepin which grows wild all over the dessert in Mexico and the southern U.S.    They look like little cranberries of fire.  Just make sure you wear gloves when you're picking them or taking a piss will be a lot more flamey then you hoped.
 
2014-04-22 01:36:11 AM  

whidbey: God whatever did happen to Paris Hilton?


she hit 30
 
2014-04-22 01:42:22 AM  

whidbey: God whatever did happen to Paris Hilton?

Is she slacking fries at Carl's Jr?


when you're that kinda famous you can still get paid just for showing up at places. or doin porn i guess...
 
2014-04-22 01:43:18 AM  
www.kristn.com
Ms. Chili Pepper?
 
2014-04-22 01:47:32 AM  
scientists who used genetic and archaeological data, as well as linguistic and ecological evidence

Curious about what constitutes linguistic evidence, unless accompanied by pointing at the first chili plant.
 
2014-04-22 01:52:01 AM  

timharrod: scientists who used genetic and archaeological data, as well as linguistic and ecological evidence

Curious about what constitutes linguistic evidence, unless accompanied by pointing at the first chili plant.


My guess would be looking in to first written evidence for the phrase of "holy shiat that burns my mouth"
 
2014-04-22 01:54:40 AM  
now that's a spicy meatball
 
2014-04-22 01:58:45 AM  

timharrod: scientists who used genetic and archaeological data, as well as linguistic and ecological evidence

Curious about what constitutes linguistic evidence, unless accompanied by pointing at the first chili plant.



I speak a bit of ancient Mayan:

aics-research.com

Xetlocotal ate the red fruit from the jungle vine
Xetlocotal's mouth became red like the fruit
He screamed that the gods had put fire in his throat
Later his cries of pain became even louder
When the oil hit the anus

August 14th, 15,032 BC
 
2014-04-22 02:03:11 AM  

phrawgh: Ms. Chili Pepper?


My kind of lady...
 
2014-04-22 02:10:23 AM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I speak a bit of ancient Mayan:

Xetlocotal ate the red fruit from the jungle vine
Xetlocotal's mouth became red like the fruit
He screamed that the gods had put fire in his throat
Later his cries of pain became even louder
When the oil hit the anus

August 14th, 15,032 BC


for some reason "August 14th" was the part that made me laugh.
 
2014-04-22 02:21:44 AM  

Harry_Seldon: PreMortem: Fark you subby for reminding me Paris Hilton still exists.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x334]


Putin has really let himself go
 
2014-04-22 02:22:52 AM  
Was it the merciless peppers of Quetzalacatenango.... grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of a Guatemalan insane asylum?

//DNRTFA
 
2014-04-22 02:25:22 AM  
i235.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-22 02:25:32 AM  
This thread made me so hungry I had to fry up some fresh tortilla chips and have them with some habanero salsa. My mouth is on fire and I'm lovin' it.
 
2014-04-22 02:26:22 AM  
Aaaaand I posted in the wrong thread.
 
2014-04-22 02:27:49 AM  
Wow, Great Britain is involved with this study.

After their failures at Climate Hoopla, I think it's best they branch out into other areas of crap science fiction.
 
2014-04-22 02:28:36 AM  

timharrod: Aaaaand I posted in the wrong thread.


But it's the only post that made sense.
 
2014-04-22 02:29:43 AM  

timharrod: Aaaaand I posted in the wrong thread.


Given the image, that is soooo appropriate.
 
2014-04-22 02:40:21 AM  

timharrod: scientists who used genetic and archaeological data, as well as linguistic and ecological evidence

Curious about what constitutes linguistic evidence, unless accompanied by pointing at the first chili plant.


from: http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/gepts/Kraft%20et%20al.%20Pepper% 2 0origins.%202014.pdf
Paleobiolinguistic Evidence.
Brown (22) surveyed the reconstructed vocabularies of 30 protolanguages of Mesoamerica (southern half of Mexico and northern Central America) and abutting areas for terms for 41 different crops, including chili pepper. His survey presented for each protolanguage the estimated date it was spoken at the latest, making it possible to stratify reconstructed words for crops chronologically (Table 1) (27, 28).

Proto-Otomanguean is the oldest (∼6500 B.P.) protolanguage of the New World for which a word for chili pepper reconstructs (31). All daughter languages of Proto-Otomanguean, as defined by Kaufman (32), show reconstructed terms for chili pepper (Table 1).
...
Non-Otomanguean languages for which a term for chili pepper reconstructs are Proto-Misumalpan(∼2800 B.P.), Proto-Sonoran (∼2400 B.P.), and Proto-Mayan(∼2200 B.P.). Thus, the earliest non-Otomanguean dates for Capsicum in Mesoamerica and abutting regions are over 3,700 y more recent than the oldest date, suggesting that speakers of a prehistoric Otomanguean language or languages may have been among the first cultivators or domesticators of chili pepper.

Note that the current word - chili - is derived from the General Aztec language, Nahuatl, which reconstructs to a much more recent date (∼1500 B.P.; Table 1). The area of maximum diversity of a language family has been viewed traditionally by linguists as suggestive of the location of a family's ancestral language (e.g., ref. 28). We use this phylogenetic diversity information in locating the Otomanguean home-land by identifying where languages of the four subgroups of the family - Mazatecan-Zapotecan, Amuzgo-Mixtecan, Tlapanecan-Chorotegan, and Otopamean-Chinantecan (32) - are currently spoken in closest proximity (Fig. 1C).
 
2014-04-22 02:45:55 AM  

phrawgh: [www.kristn.com image 670x395]
Ms. Chili Pepper?


I'd pickle it.
 
2014-04-22 02:46:48 AM  

log_jammin: whidbey: God whatever did happen to Paris Hilton?

she hit 30


Lol
 
2014-04-22 02:48:07 AM  
Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh
 
2014-04-22 02:54:58 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh


Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:

origin.kaboodle.com

The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.
 
2014-04-22 03:03:13 AM  
I'm heating up some chilli with Dave's Ghost Pepper Sauce, so I'm about to get a kick....
 
2014-04-22 03:08:14 AM  
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

/just love Wiggum in that getup for some screwy reason...
 
2014-04-22 03:10:45 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:



The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.


Hmmm...might have to give that a try. I love chipotle peppers.

Btw: am i the only person who haaates it when people pronounce it "chipolte"?
 
2014-04-22 03:11:01 AM  

Satan's Dumptruck Driver: I'm heating up some chilli with Dave's Ghost Pepper Sauce, so I'm about to get a kick....


... in the anus tomorrow.  ;>)
 
2014-04-22 03:26:57 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:



The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.


Do you salsafy that shiat, or what?
 
2014-04-22 03:29:06 AM  

eraser8: Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:

The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.

Do you salsafy that shiat, or what?


I mash it into a paste and apply it to everything. Great combination of heat and flavor.
 
2014-04-22 03:35:38 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: eraser8: Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:

The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.

Do you salsafy that shiat, or what?

I mash it into a paste and apply it to everything. Great combination of heat and flavor.


Huh. I just might have to pick some up.
 
2014-04-22 03:41:12 AM  
Not particularly hot (for long), but.

www.entretodos.com.mx

Chiltepin peppers are good for soup and salsas.
 
2014-04-22 03:41:12 AM  
The first sentence threw me. Mexico gave us chorizo? I think that originated in Spain and Portugal. Not the best way to start an article about food history, getting food origins wrong.

Paella sounds good right about now.
 
2014-04-22 03:41:58 AM  

shlub: The first sentence threw me. Mexico gave us chorizo? I think that originated in Spain and Portugal. Not the best way to start an article about food history, getting food origins wrong.

Paella sounds good right about now.


Some morcilla would be good, too.
 
2014-04-22 03:45:10 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:

The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.

Hmmm...might have to give that a try. I love chipotle peppers.

Btw: am i the only person who haaates it when people pronounce it "chipolte"?


That, and every time Bobby Flay says chipotele. He's supposed to be a Mexican food specialist, get the vocab right.
 
2014-04-22 03:47:37 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:

[origin.kaboodle.com image 300x300]

The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.


a big fat yuuuuuuup.

love that stuff.
 
2014-04-22 04:14:32 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:



The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.

Hmmm...might have to give that a try. I love chipotle peppers.

Btw: am i the only person who haaates it when people pronounce it "chipolte"?


No. They are stupid. Kind of like idiots who say Rene hoes when they mean rellenos. With a y sound. They are stupid. So are folks that pretend to like really hot food. The dick wads who brag about the "taste" of a ghost chili are merely posturing like they are in a gang or ride a Harley. Pretentious douchenozzles. And yes...Stop liking what I don't like.
 
2014-04-22 05:00:28 AM  
I'm eating some leftover Alambres from the taqueria, so I'm getting a kick....
etc.....
etc

¡viva mexico!
 
2014-04-22 05:37:10 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Danger Avoid Death: The more you eat the more you fart: Where do the grow the sriracha? Heh

Not one of my favorites any more. It's been supplanted by:



The adobo sauce gives it a much better flavor.

Hmmm...might have to give that a try. I love chipotle peppers.

Btw: am i the only person who haaates it when people pronounce it "chipolte"?


My boss does, and he said he's corrected himself and started saying chipolTAY instead of chipolTEE.

T's still before the L, mate.

Christ.
 
2014-04-22 05:45:36 AM  
I like chipottle but it's way too hot. I like the mild chippottle sauce a lot better.
 
2014-04-22 05:47:04 AM  
FTA: "world's most-used spice"

That can't be true. I'm thinking black pepper, maybe cumin. Of course, it is a vague claim. But I'm thinking population-wise it has got to be another spice.
 
2014-04-22 05:49:16 AM  

August11: FTA: "world's most-used spice"

That can't be true. I'm thinking black pepper, maybe cumin. Of course, it is a vague claim. But I'm thinking population-wise it has got to be another spice.


Salt? I know people who salt salted things.
 
2014-04-22 05:55:06 AM  

whidbey: August11: FTA: "world's most-used spice"

That can't be true. I'm thinking black pepper, maybe cumin. Of course, it is a vague claim. But I'm thinking population-wise it has got to be another spice.

Salt? I know people who salt salted things.


Is salt a spice? I always thought spice had to be grown.
 
2014-04-22 06:06:20 AM  

August11: whidbey: August11: FTA: "world's most-used spice"

That can't be true. I'm thinking black pepper, maybe cumin. Of course, it is a vague claim. But I'm thinking population-wise it has got to be another spice.

Salt? I know people who salt salted things.

Is salt a spice? I always thought spice had to be grown.


It flavors food in much the same way.

Cue an incredibly anal pedantic word usage pissing contest
 
2014-04-22 06:07:19 AM  

August11: whidbey: August11: FTA: "world's most-used spice"

That can't be true. I'm thinking black pepper, maybe cumin. Of course, it is a vague claim. But I'm thinking population-wise it has got to be another spice.

Salt? I know people who salt salted things.

Is salt a spice? I always thought spice had to be grown.


Correct, salt is a mineral.

I'd believe most used. May depend on how it's measured. Weight is one spice, volume another, number of dishes used in a third.
 
2014-04-22 06:09:58 AM  
One of the big parts of archeology is finding communal toilet pits. Those quickly tell you what sort of foods were in the diet, and in this case you can carbon date the first chili pepper eaten from the fact it was the last use of this toilet.
 
2014-04-22 06:19:45 AM  

wildcardjack: One of the big parts of archeology is finding communal toilet pits. Those quickly tell you what sort of foods were in the diet, and in this case you can carbon date the first chili pepper eaten from the fact it was the last use of this toilet.


Trash heaps, as well.  In ten thousand years Staten Island is going to be a mecca of archaeological activity.
 
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