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(Huffington Post)   Following their agreement with the US and Russia, Syria is disposing of their chemical weapons   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 69
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2014-04-21 05:50:30 PM
Quick let's block a few Syrians from entering the U.S.

That will make them think twice.
 
2014-04-21 05:51:12 PM
I thought it was common knowledge they've been hitting rebels and civil unrest with simple mustard gas and worse for the last...3? 5 years? Something along those lines.
 
2014-04-21 05:53:19 PM
Thanks, Taft.
 
2014-04-21 05:54:32 PM
Maybe someone was just cleaning their pool?
 
2014-04-21 05:54:58 PM

Capo Del Bandito: I thought it was common knowledge they've been hitting rebels and civil unrest with simple mustard gas and worse for the last...3? 5 years? Something along those lines.


citation?
 
2014-04-21 05:56:55 PM

spawn73: citation?


What i'm going to go dig up news articles from 2011? fark that noise.

I just remember reading about it, and then the official government statement was 'what chemical weapons would we use? That's proposterous' and then a UN said something and they said 'prove it' and so on and so on.

Hell there was even a joke on The Oatmeal about it a while back if I remember right.
 
2014-04-21 05:57:05 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/19/world/meast/syria-civil-war/

Syria is indeed on track to adher to their end of the agreement. But I've long proclaimed that Syria will pay for what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

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Is Chlorine banned under conventions btw.?

If that was what it was.
 
2014-04-21 05:58:16 PM
Somebody remind them of that Red Line thing. That should do it.
 
2014-04-21 06:00:18 PM

Sentient: Somebody remind them of that Red Line thing. That should do it.


Be sure to tell them it's a "Hard" red line this time. Works every time, I hear.
 
2014-04-21 06:00:21 PM
Assad spills some Clorox and everybody freaks out.  Simple accident.
 
2014-04-21 06:02:11 PM

Capo Del Bandito: spawn73: citation?

What i'm going to go dig up news articles from 2011? fark that noise.

I just remember reading about it, and then the official government statement was 'what chemical weapons would we use? That's proposterous' and then a UN said something and they said 'prove it' and so on and so on.

Hell there was even a joke on The Oatmeal about it a while back if I remember right.


Yeah you're right. I thought it was VX they used.

Also, apparently, Syria signed a treaty in 1925 to not use Chlorine gas.


So well, shiat.
 
2014-04-21 06:05:21 PM
Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it
 
2014-04-21 06:07:52 PM
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2014-04-21 06:13:50 PM

Capo Del Bandito: I thought it was common knowledge they've been hitting rebels and civil unrest with simple mustard gas and worse for the last...3? 5 years? Something along those lines.


simple mustard?  I guess they don't have the oil money for grey poupon
 
2014-04-21 06:17:09 PM
Following their agreement with the US and Russia, Syria is disposing of theirSaddam Hussein's chemical weapons
 
2014-04-21 06:23:18 PM
Wonder if the rebels will dispose of any right back at them?
 
2014-04-21 06:25:40 PM

fusillade762: Maybe someone was just cleaning their pool?


Gene pool, maybe.
 
2014-04-21 06:29:07 PM

SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it


Mainly, it's to set an example to Iran to knock off trying to make Nukes.
 
2014-04-21 06:34:21 PM

TheZorker: SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it

Mainly, it's to set an example to Iran to knock off trying to make Nukes.


No its not.

USA is going to react depending on domestic politics.

Ukraine got you down, want to show Russia up? Go bomb Syria.
 
2014-04-21 06:35:30 PM
They were just making sure the water supply was clean.
 
2014-04-21 06:39:20 PM
Chlorine and amonia makes one helluva floor cleaner.   You just gotta, ya know, not breath and keep your eyes closed.
 
2014-04-21 06:45:36 PM

EdNortonsTwin: Chlorine and amonia makes one helluva floor cleaner.   You just gotta, ya know, not breath and keep your eyes closed.


and if you do breathe at least your eyes will end up closed anyway
 
2014-04-21 06:46:30 PM
It got rid of the algae problem.
 
2014-04-21 06:46:32 PM
Maybe they just had a particularly tough stain in their chef whites?
 
2014-04-21 06:48:06 PM
Chlorine. It get's the Red Line out.
 
2014-04-21 06:51:35 PM

SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it


Because Obama is weak on terrorists or something like that.
 
2014-04-21 06:55:10 PM
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// in before zero in chief sends another sternly written letter.
 
2014-04-21 06:55:17 PM

SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it


Because Syria is not our client state, yet.
 
2014-04-21 07:01:06 PM
Well, I said last year that diplomacy was the way to go, but they have to keep their end of the agreement. Clearly they have failed to do so, therefore we now have to show them what happens when you break an agreement of this magnitude with us.

/Hey Assad, that's a nice air force you have there...
//and house...
///and C&C...
 
2014-04-21 07:03:20 PM

Sentient: Somebody remind them of that Red Line thing. That should do it.


They are still shaking after being declared on the wrong side of history.
 
2014-04-21 07:06:29 PM

SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it


Why should we care about the Balkan states was a common utterance a century ago. Thank god nothing bad happened by ignoring that.
 
2014-04-21 07:08:15 PM
I heard that an Israeli settler knocked over a Palestinian falafel cart. Now you can outrage.
 
2014-04-21 07:09:29 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Sentient: Somebody remind them of that Red Line thing. That should do it.

Be sure to tell them it's a "Hard" red line this time. Works every time, I hear.



No, no, no . You have to tell them it is a "hard red line-period."

The period let them know you are seriously telling them the truth except for unstated qualifiers and exceptions.
 
2014-04-21 07:16:40 PM
Probably people backing the rebels, like it was last time.
 
2014-04-21 07:21:21 PM
Well, that IS one way to get rid of it.
 
2014-04-21 07:32:31 PM

codigo: Quick let's block a few Syrians from entering the U.S.

That will make them think twice.


Block them all. Not just syria. All countries. Until immigration laws are enforced. F this governmen.
 
2014-04-21 07:48:11 PM
The pantywaist president and his incompetent secretary of state should stage an unbelievably small retaliatory action.
 
2014-04-21 07:49:39 PM

SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it


I'm not a war monger, so I can't speak for them, but personally I don't like civilians getting slaughtered by their government and I don't like dictatorial regimes. And now, the poor Syrian people are caught between an asshole, kleptocrat dictator and a bunch of fundamentalist assholes. No matter who wins a lot of people will suffer and die - and I really would like the human race to get used to standing up to that shiat and putting a stop to it.

That's not to say I want the US to send a bunch of soldiers over and try and sort it out ourselves - that doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me - I just hate the pointless violent misery, and wish humanity could be a little more decent. If we can become a little better as a species by coming together to try and stop it, that would be good. Don't seem to be a lot of countries stepping up to the plate though.
 
2014-04-21 07:51:07 PM

subsetzero: The pantywaist president and his incompetent secretary of state should stage an unbelievably small retaliatory action.


Who, 2bama the iron-fisted dictator and evil genius?
 
2014-04-21 07:54:03 PM
....aaaaaaaand if they're smart, they dispose of their Russian and american population too......

...... though very quiet-like.......
 
2014-04-21 07:55:40 PM
At this point I would not be so quick to conclude that it was the government. On past allegations there were foreign officials who stated that they had intel to lead them to believe that it was the rebels and or insurgents that deployed chemical weapons in a bid to put the blame on the government and then gain more help from the us.

Chlorine gas is not hard to manufacture so would be one of the simplier things for a group to make with the goal of what was described above. Add to that with Al Qaeda in the equation Its not hard to reason that this would be above them.
 
2014-04-21 07:59:35 PM

Persnickety: SquiggsIN: Can the war-mongerers here on fark explain to me why it is that the USA should give 2 flips about what is going on in Syria?

/no nevermind, they actually think there is a reason to care and will attempt to prove it

Because Obama is weak on terrorists or something like that.


I for one think he went way too easy on bin Laden and Ghaddafi duck.
 
2014-04-21 08:10:24 PM
It's easy to dispose of chemical weapons. It's also easy to manufacture them. Otoh:

Psaki said chlorine was not one of the priority one or two chemicals Syria declared to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) under a Russian-U.S. agreement for the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.

so there you go. And I think we're all STILL waiting for some kind of definitive response from the "Obama should DO something!" crowd besides "anything except what he's doing! Oh, and not war. And not diplomacy. But not bombing, but more than not bombing. Just, you know, something!" That's horseshiat.
 
2014-04-21 08:19:41 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's easy to dispose of chemical weapons. It's also easy to manufacture them. Otoh:

Psaki said chlorine was not one of the priority one or two chemicals Syria declared to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) under a Russian-U.S. agreement for the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.

so there you go. And I think we're all STILL waiting for some kind of definitive response from the "Obama should DO something!" crowd besides "anything except what he's doing! Oh, and not war. And not diplomacy. But not bombing, but more than not bombing. Just, you know, something!" That's horseshiat.


Laser surgery to get rid of that melanin.
 
2014-04-21 08:20:27 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's easy to dispose of chemical weapons. It's also easy to manufacture them. Otoh:

Psaki said chlorine was not one of the priority one or two chemicals Syria declared to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) under a Russian-U.S. agreement for the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.

so there you go. And I think we're all STILL waiting for some kind of definitive response from the "Obama should DO something!" crowd besides "anything except what he's doing! Oh, and not war. And not diplomacy. But not bombing, but more than not bombing. Just, you know, something!" That's horseshiat.


Well the "whatever Obama does it's wrong and we want the opposite" crowd will have something to biatch about no matter what happens over there.

Again, I just don't see how Syria is any of our business.  When we fix our problems at home and can pay our own bills then we can worry about promoting democracy and joy-joy feelings halfway around the world.
 
2014-04-21 08:23:32 PM

mongbiohazard: Syrian people are caught between an asshole, kleptocrat dictator and a bunch of fundamentalist assholes. No matter who wins a lot of people will suffer and die - and I really would like the human race to get used to standing up to that shiat and putting a stop to it.



I agree with you but, I don't see that as the American taxpayer's responsibility to remedy.  We have bridges, schools, hospitals, and tunnels to build and rebuild in this country so I'm angered by the idea that our government EVER thinks it is acceptable to send public money to other nations when it could be used here.
 
2014-04-21 08:56:10 PM
You have to understand too that in re the whole "asshole dictator who has to go" thing...a lot of Syrians actually support Assad, and do not want him overthrown, at least not by the Islamic fundamentalists who are trying to do the job. I have a good friend here who is a Syrian Christian with family in Damascus who are 100% behind Assad, because of his government's traditional support and protection of Christians and Jews in Syria.

Although Americans with their simple-minded "Muslims are all the same" mindset often forget it, there are large numbers of Jews and Christians in the Middle East who are nevertheless minorities in Arab nations, and persecuted in ways that would make Christian Fundamentalists implode with shame about their whining here in the States. The Assad regimes, for all their murderous excesses, have always protected religious minorities in Damascus and Aleppo, and Syrian Christians rightly fear what will happen to them if the Islamic fundamentalists succeed in overthrowing the Alawite government.
 
2014-04-21 09:20:20 PM
Just waiting for everyones attention to be on something else.
 
2014-04-21 09:28:54 PM

Gyrfalcon: You have to understand too that in re the whole "asshole dictator who has to go" thing...a lot of Syrians actually support Assad, and do not want him overthrown, at least not by the Islamic fundamentalists who are trying to do the job. I have a good friend here who is a Syrian Christian with family in Damascus who are 100% behind Assad, because of his government's traditional support and protection of Christians and Jews in Syria.

Although Americans with their simple-minded "Muslims are all the same" mindset often forget it, there are large numbers of Jews and Christians in the Middle East who are nevertheless minorities in Arab nations, and persecuted in ways that would make Christian Fundamentalists implode with shame about their whining here in the States. The Assad regimes, for all their murderous excesses, have always protected religious minorities in Damascus and Aleppo, and Syrian Christians rightly fear what will happen to them if the Islamic fundamentalists succeed in overthrowing the Alawite government.


Along that line, i'd wager that even today most Americans don't know the differences between Shias and Sunnis and which nations they are generally from.
 
2014-04-21 09:30:41 PM
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