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(The Jersey Tomato Press)   A blogger walks into a bar and is served by a journalist. Sort of. Who do YOU trust: blogger or journo? And which ones need that drink more?   (thejerseytomatopress.com) divider line 48
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2014-04-21 11:44:09 AM  
And which ones need that drink more?

The readers?
 
2014-04-21 12:29:02 PM  
I'd put my money and trust on the guy who knows somebody in Trenton over bloggers and journos.
 
2014-04-21 12:32:24 PM  
I don't trust anyone who:

- writes like a second grader
- masks opinions as facts while pretending to be objective
- includes more than one link to anything other than a scientific research article
- tries to draw distinctions by tying two different things together without doing any research
- creates 'articles' that are animated gifs
- creates anything involving a slideshow
- uses hyperbole in the article title - The Cutest Kittens You Will Ever See
- starts an article with an interrogative - 'Who, What, Where, When, How, and Why'
- creates a top anything list
- treats a sad or horrific subject with cynicism
- includes a video to something done on a news program or something pretending to be a news program
- dishes on some stupid restaurant or company that treated them less than human

Feel free to add to this list
 
2014-04-21 12:53:10 PM  
Most blogs would disappear if personal pronouns were banned.
 
2014-04-21 01:01:47 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: And which ones need that drink more?

The readers?


Obviously, everybody needs to drink moar!
 
2014-04-21 02:03:51 PM  
Blogger, please
 
2014-04-21 05:57:34 PM  
So we have a journalist blogging about bloggers?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-21 07:19:09 PM  
Journalists and bloggers are both equally self-important though. Reporting on the local Easter parade isn't exactly the hard hitting community service you think it is. Not everyone can be a Woodward or a Bernstein. Deal with it.
 
2014-04-21 09:07:09 PM  
i.imgur.com
I trust my barber.
 
2014-04-21 10:06:07 PM  
The Journalist , their leader Ric Romero is the reason, the answer, the end of statement.
 
2014-04-21 10:11:30 PM  
Sources, sources, sources. I don't care who you are or what youre talking about, you better prove to me you aren't just talking out your ass.
Journalists probably need the drink more because they need to seem more professional. Bloggers tend to skip grammar, punctuation, etc.
 
2014-04-21 10:12:13 PM  
It's a sad day when journalists have to moon light as bartenders to make ends meet
 
2014-04-21 10:18:40 PM  
Also, try asking YouTube tech reviewer to reveal their commercial interest with the makers of the product they're reviewing and see how quickly your post is deleted
 
2014-04-21 10:19:33 PM  
Q. What's the difference between blogging and journalism?

A. Don't ask a journalist.  Or a blogger.
 
2014-04-21 10:25:38 PM  

Prey4reign: I'd put my money and trust on the guy who knows somebody in Trenton over bloggers and journos.


Except that guys who "know somebody" in Trenton (or other legislative/executive center) usually have their own agenda. And they'll use that to frame what they tell you about "the news in Trenton."

/used to know people in Trenton
//still know one very big guy in Trenton. Not him. The other one.
//have no agenda
 
2014-04-21 10:26:51 PM  
FTA : But again, bloggers tend to be obsessed with clicks and views and reporters are more concerned with getting facts right and offering a complelling piece.

Complelling?

Of all the articles to not spell check....
 
2014-04-21 10:29:20 PM  
Working at a university and seeing the caliber of the average journalism student graduating today, there isn't much of difference.

//
 
2014-04-21 10:33:55 PM  

GriffXX: FTA : But again, bloggers tend to be obsessed with clicks and views and reporters are more concerned with getting facts right and offering a complelling piece.

Complelling?

Of all the articles to not spell check....


Yup. Had the same exact thought. Dumb.
 
2014-04-21 10:46:16 PM  

bdub77: I don't trust anyone who:

- creates a top anything list


It gets worse as they have a name for it now: "listicles."
 
2014-04-21 10:46:50 PM  
The reason there are so few quality blog is because there are so few quality readers. People do not read blogs or newspapers to learn anything--they read to have their bias confirmed. So the result is a race to the bottom with everyone trying to grad some sliver of another person's attention. Rather than cursing the darkness the best thing a person can do is be a good reader--learn who the interesting bloggers are, frequent their blogs, send good blog postings to your friends, and otherwise support good writing.

Every single decent blog I can think of is run either by someone who gets their pay from a public source (like a professor) or the person who writes about a passion in their free time. The reason is simple. Few people are willing to pay for effective writing. Until that changes, I wouldn't trust most bloggers or journalists, either.
 
2014-04-21 10:48:56 PM  
Charlie Pierce, Rachel Maddow (national), Fran Spielman, Mick Dumke, and Carol Marin (local).

Dumke and Pierce both blog. But their occasional long-form pieces are outstanding.

/cue "you're a libby-libby-libtard" flaming in 5, 4, 3, 2.....
 
2014-04-21 10:59:21 PM  
A Bing image search for "funny blogger" gave this as the ninth selection:

galeri5.uludagsozluk.com

What else could I say that would possibly matter?
 
2014-04-21 11:04:41 PM  
In the example case, it sounds like the journalist relied on police accounts but not neighbors, while the blogger relied on neighborhood sources but not police. I'm guessing the blogger's report that "neighbors are afraid" and the journalist's report that "police set up bright yellow police tape" are true, but am quite skeptical of the blogger's report that police chased someone, and that the journalist checked recordings to verify whether residents said they "they may have seen someone", as opposed to their saying they did see someone. Reading both, skeptically, provides a better understanding of the situation.
 With some breaking stories, forums like fark or even 4chan, which have plenty of BS, can provide insights unavailable from traditional journalists, due to editorial guidelines deeming it not relevant, not appropriate, or not adequately verified (e.g., links to facebook pages of suspects/victims). While weighing the credibility of information is left to the reader, I think a critical reader can gain a much fuller understanding of news events by weighing different sources like this.
 
2014-04-21 11:23:01 PM  
It all depends on how reputable the blogger is, and who the journalist works for..

In Australia, a lot of "journalists" work for Murdoch-controlled newspapers - and thus there is a lot of bias in their articles and they pander to racist, bigoted readers.

Whereas you can get independent websites that can often report on news overlooked by major newspapers:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/
 
2014-04-21 11:24:56 PM  

brimed03: GriffXX: FTA : But again, bloggers tend to be obsessed with clicks and views and reporters are more concerned with getting facts right and offering a complelling piece.

Complelling?

Of all the articles to not spell check....

Yup. Had the same exact thought. Dumb.


Also, "is's" and "rasp poetic". Sister, use your damn spellcheck. (Although that probably wouldn't tell you it's "wax poetic".)
 
2014-04-21 11:51:15 PM  
" I believe the fastest news is usually not the most accurate."

The list of reliable news sources just plummeted. Let's send you to Leslie Kindawant and Jack Action in "News Force Bunker 7" for more....
 
2014-04-21 11:54:04 PM  
Oh, good, a line journalist complaining that bloggers are now doing the same thing that line journalists have been doing for two centuries.

Local beat reporters aren't  quite outright yellow journalists, but only because they get 50% of the facts wrong due to stupidity rather than intentionally.Any "journalists vs bloggers" comparison that doesn't take into account that there are several categories of journalist with varying levels of credibility doesn't know enough about journalism to express a coherent opinion.

Not that there aren't good, reliable journalists and news sources around, just pointing out that 'dude who re-types some police blotter lines and adds specious speculation' is not one of those.


// Yes, I'm implying that the proportion of non-journalists that understand the basics of how journalism works is greater than the proportion of journalists that understand it.  Because that's... well, entirely true.  Journalism is the college degree you get when you find a BA in business management to be too challenging.  For every one that takes the job and craft seriously enough to develop real skill (who probably often wonder why college was even necessary, I imagine) there are 99 who were just too stupid to get a real degree.
 
2014-04-21 11:57:19 PM  
"From a blogger:  Neighbors in fear. Cops chase criminals to abandoned home"

I didn't realize my local newspaper and newscasters were bloggers. I've seen headlines and teasers similar to that long before there were bloggers.
 
2014-04-22 12:27:28 AM  
Now if only we could get journalism involved in the news cycle.
 
2014-04-22 01:42:05 AM  
Having received, finally, my press credentials, I am laughing at how little one needs to be called a Reporter.

Yes, a reporter, I plan on reporting the news, not journaling my opinions.

I'll blog my opinion on my crappy site.
 
2014-04-22 01:50:35 AM  

Slam1263: Having received, finally, my press credentials, I am laughing at how little one needs to be called a Reporter.

Yes, a reporter, I plan on reporting the news, not journaling my opinions.

I'll blog my opinion on my crappy site.


Can you do an exposé  on the artificially inflated prices of maple syrup? Maybe you could look in to if this is a Canadian plot to control the world?
 
2014-04-22 02:03:54 AM  
A journalist writes about what happened.

A blogger writes about what they think it means.
 
2014-04-22 02:17:20 AM  

codigo: Slam1263: Having received, finally, my press credentials, I am laughing at how little one needs to be called a Reporter.

Yes, a reporter, I plan on reporting the news, not journaling my opinions.

I'll blog my opinion on my crappy site.

Can you do an exposé  on the artificially inflated prices of maple syrup? Maybe you could look in to if this is a Canadian plot to control the world?


Canadians?

They are push overs, compared to the Maine Maple Syrup Mafia.

Ishkur: A journalist writes about what happened.

A blogger writes about what they think it means.


A journalist expresses opinion, like Mark Twain.

A reporter reports facts, like no one does any more.

I blog to troll, as is the way of my people.
 
2014-04-22 03:15:00 AM  
 Journo?

 Is that, like, a word that people use?
 
2014-04-22 03:19:57 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Journo?

 Is that, like, a word that people use?


Don't Stop Believo.
 
2014-04-22 04:15:57 AM  
I trust no one.

But if I could get away with murdering everyone who declared herself a "mommy blogger", I'd get started today.
 
2014-04-22 04:34:09 AM  
Heh, the 3 comments that were left under that story pretty much say it all. Its like haiku. We don't really need to be having this thread.
 
2014-04-22 06:05:37 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: I trust no one.

But if I could get away with murdering everyone who declared herself a "mommy blogger", I'd get started today.


I will gladly be your alibi.

And you can borrow my 12-gauge.


/Just yesterday my wife joked about blogging about what it is to be a mother
//Well, I HOPE she was joking.
 
2014-04-22 07:30:29 AM  
They should fight to the death. Then we execute the winner.

/win win
 
2014-04-22 07:49:47 AM  
Sadly, the line between journalists and bloggers is thinning.  Do editors even exist these days?
 
2014-04-22 07:50:07 AM  
Article contends that there is even a difference between bloggers and journalists.  I disagree.  Not because bloggers are as reliable as journalists, but because journalists are as unreliable as bloggers.
 
2014-04-22 08:06:50 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: A Bing image search for "funny blogger" gave this as the ninth selection:

[galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 700x510]

What else could I say that would possibly matter?


Since it was Bing, I'm going to assume the first eight results were NSFW.
 
2014-04-22 09:07:57 AM  

brimed03: GriffXX: FTA : But again, bloggers tend to be obsessed with clicks and views and reporters are more concerned with getting facts right and offering a complelling piece.

Complelling?

Of all the articles to not spell check....

Yup. Had the same exact thought. Dumb.


Well, she did say that her rag doesn't have a copy editor.  That's too bad, because she really needs a good copy *and* content editor.
 
2014-04-22 09:51:39 AM  
How am I supposed to react when she's writing for something called "The Jersey Tomato Press"?

And having been both a journalist and a blogger, I can say from experience here that there's room for a comment about rocks and glass houses, but I don't want to get in the way of her "vomit" news, do I?
 
2014-04-22 10:04:56 AM  
subby:   And which ones need that drink more?


I
need that drink more because your blog sucks.

/that and just want a drink
 
2014-04-22 12:52:31 PM  

The Larch: Danger Avoid Death: A Bing image search for "funny blogger" gave this as the ninth selection:

[galeri5.uludagsozluk.com image 700x510]

What else could I say that would possibly matter?

Since it was Bing, I'm going to assume the first eight results were NSFW.


You say that like it's a bad thing. Boobies.
 
2014-04-22 07:56:20 PM  

Public Savant: Cerebral Ballsy: I trust no one.

But if I could get away with murdering everyone who declared herself a "mommy blogger", I'd get started today.

I will gladly be your alibi.

And you can borrow my 12-gauge.


/Just yesterday my wife joked about blogging about what it is to be a mother
//Well, I HOPE she was joking.


I choose to believe anyone as noble as a Farker would marry an extremely interesting and humorous woman and in no way would she merely be one more in a sea of bland, pretentious, child-showoff mommy bloggers. I welcome her green diaper doo-doo jokes with..

Well maybe not, but I'd let a Farker's wife live.
 
2014-04-22 11:10:46 PM  

Wadded Beef: It gets worse as they have a name for it now: "listicles."


It's not a new term.

If I had to guess, I'd put its coining around the mid-1980s, when USA Today launched a paper on the idea that lists of bullet points were a suitable substitute for in-depth news reporting.
 
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