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2014-04-21 08:44:51 AM  
Courts don't judge you on whether you tell the truth. They judge you on how believable you are. The best way to be believed is to know how to lie well even if (especially if, actually) you're applying those skills to tell a story that is actually true.

I've seen enough people bungle relaying information I knew to be true but that sounded completely unbelievable coming out of their mouths that I know the ability to be convincing is only tangentially related to whether what you're saying is accurate.

/Not saying he isn't a dirty, dirty liar
 
2014-04-21 09:04:56 AM  
he should get his money back
 
2014-04-21 09:51:31 AM  
Those South African accents are awesome to listen to on the news highlights of the trial.

/but....but...but...you're blick!
 
2014-04-21 09:53:10 AM  
Republican Representative Garry Smith told Reuters he proposed the cut after a parent complained about the book's "graphic pictures of two females having sex" and because the college did not offer another choice for summer reading.

It's kinda precocious that parents have no clue about the things their kids have already viewed on the internet.
 
2014-04-21 09:55:50 AM  
I bet he walks.

Uh, I mean....

/ah, you know what I mean.....
 
2014-04-21 09:56:11 AM  
Line!
 
2014-04-21 09:58:25 AM  
"To be raped in the A when I'm convicted? Or not to be?"
 
2014-04-21 10:00:16 AM  
So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?
 
2014-04-21 10:00:26 AM  
That's an outrageous claim to make without attribution.
 
2014-04-21 10:01:53 AM  
This guy would be held in contempt in an American court. Our judges don't put up with that bullshiat.
 
2014-04-21 10:02:02 AM  
It's in the Daily News, so you know it must be true! Let's see if CNN picks it up and claims that Pistorius knows where MH370 is.
 
2014-04-21 10:02:53 AM  
Seriously. He acts like a damn Korean ferry family member. Ever heard of stoic tears?
 
2014-04-21 10:03:40 AM  
I think he's vomited like 12 times already in court... he's laying it on a little thick
 
2014-04-21 10:04:58 AM  
I don't know.   Seems believable to me.(link)

The sniffing of the snot back up makes it seem authentic.
 
2014-04-21 10:05:26 AM  

thornhill: Republican Representative Garry Smith told Reuters he proposed the cut after a parent complained about the book's "graphic pictures of two females having sex" and because the college did not offer another choice for summer reading.

It's kinda precocious that parents have no clue about the things their kids have already viewed on the internet.


img.fark.net

You're posting in the wrong thread.

 
2014-04-21 10:06:22 AM  
He's probably just prepping for his lifetime channel miniseries.
 
2014-04-21 10:06:44 AM  
What a P.O.S.(torius)
 
2014-04-21 10:06:54 AM  
What a piece of shiat.
 
2014-04-21 10:11:36 AM  

powerofpositiveapathy: What a P.O.S.(torius)


NicoFinn: What a piece of shiat.


if true, yes. but we don't know that yet. just because some tabloid says it happened, it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
 
2014-04-21 10:12:45 AM  

SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?


To be fair, if you're in South Africa and you find someone in your house that you weren't expecting to be there, they're probably more likely to kill you than not.
 
2014-04-21 10:17:21 AM  

cookiefleck: I think he's vomited like 12 times already in court... he's laying it on a little thick


Yeah it's a little ridiculous.  Although no more ridiculous than his horseshiat story of firing several shots through a closed bathroom door without first making sure it wasn't his GF in there.
 
2014-04-21 10:18:21 AM  
BTW, all defendants are thoroughly coached before their lawyers will let them anywhere near the witness stand. To do otherwise would be a fool's errand.
 
2014-04-21 10:18:25 AM  
That man is unbalanced.

Even after you put his legs on him.
 
2014-04-21 10:22:14 AM  
Break a leg!
 
2014-04-21 10:23:06 AM  

SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?


No it is not. I do not think that he can avoid prison time even if the judge buys his story.

South African laws are similar those here in Canada in that there must be imminent threat, proportional response and obligation to retreat if possible. I believe that the elements of the event that both sides already agree upon put him in violation of the law.

I think this case is all about getting a lesser conviction/sentence and not about walking away a free man.
 
2014-04-21 10:26:26 AM  

JackieRabbit: BTW, all defendants are thoroughly coached before their lawyers will let them anywhere near the witness stand. To do otherwise would be a fool's errand.


In the US, most lawyers are smart enough to keep their defendants away from the witness stand. That's why we missed out on all the fun with OJ and Tot Mom.
 
2014-04-21 10:26:44 AM  
The only reason to not call this man a basket case is that he still has arms.
 
2014-04-21 10:30:33 AM  

FlashHarry: powerofpositiveapathy: What a P.O.S.(torius)

NicoFinn: What a piece of shiat.

if true, yes. but we don't know that yet. just because some tabloid says it happened, it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.


He's a POS even if his version is 100% true. He fired multiple shots into a closed door without being able to see who was on the other side of it, and without making sure it was 1) a bad guy, and 2) NOT his girlfriend who was with him in the house at that time and not in the bed where she was, making the bathroom the most likely place for her to have gone from bed.

I don't believe his story. But even if you do, he is still an enormous POS.
 
2014-04-21 10:32:24 AM  

SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?


I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?
 
2014-04-21 10:38:05 AM  

mrsleep: SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?

I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?



I was once asleep in a friend's house when a drunk wandered in. He was so wasted he thought he was at his friend's place down the street. He came in, took a leak, stripped to his undies, and curled up on the couch.

Since it was not my house I just went back to sleep. In the morning we all found him and showed him the door.

He was not a threat.
Shooting him would have been murder.

There are plenty of times an intruder is not a threat to your life. It's worth remembering before murdering a stranger for a lapse in judgement.
 
2014-04-21 10:42:00 AM  

21-7-b: he should get his money back


His acting career was cut short by an over-sensitive gag reflex.
 
2014-04-21 10:44:38 AM  

TheLopper: Those South African accents are awesome to listen to on the news highlights of the trial.

/but....but...but...you're blick!


Yeah, in the ones where the prosecutor is calling him out on his story Oscar keeps saying (what sounds like) "That's not true, My Lady".

The prosecutor is a dude, I'm confused. Any SA farkers explain it to me?
 
2014-04-21 10:45:12 AM  

FarkingReading: thornhill: Republican Representative Garry Smith told Reuters he proposed the cut after a parent complained about the book's "graphic pictures of two females having sex" and because the college did not offer another choice for summer reading.

It's kinda precocious that parents have no clue about the things their kids have already viewed on the internet.

[img.fark.net image 850x361]You're posting in the wrong thread.


That's also the wrong Harrison Ford flick for this thread. ;)
 
2014-04-21 10:45:48 AM  

mrsleep: I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?


It is not about whether or not there is a threat. It is about what is an appropriate response. Some societies do not feel that giving the home owner carte blanche to execute anyone who comes on to their property is the best response.
 
2014-04-21 10:47:23 AM  

shortymac: Yeah, in the ones where the prosecutor is calling him out on his story Oscar keeps saying (what sounds like) "That's not true, My Lady".

The prosecutor is a dude, I'm confused. Any SA farkers explain it to me?


I believe the judge is a woman and he appears to address most of his comments directly to the judge.

Which makes sense as she is making the decision ... SA apparently does not do jury trials.
 
2014-04-21 10:47:56 AM  

shortymac: TheLopper: Those South African accents are awesome to listen to on the news highlights of the trial.

/but....but...but...you're blick!

Yeah, in the ones where the prosecutor is calling him out on his story Oscar keeps saying (what sounds like) "That's not true, My Lady".

The prosecutor is a dude, I'm confused. Any SA farkers explain it to me?


His answers are addressed to the judge.
 
2014-04-21 10:50:42 AM  

mrsleep: I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?


Are you actually advocating for the right to shoot someone who you can't see, haven't identified, and who is currently trapped with only one route of escape, which you have well covered? Especially when there's a resident of your household unaccounted for.
 
2014-04-21 10:51:00 AM  

mrsleep: SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?

I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?


Even if your point is conceded, you still have to identify that it is in fact an intruder before you can call them a threat.  Otherwise it could be an invited guest, a pet or the wind.  That important step appears to have been overlooked in this case.  And that is being generous.
 
2014-04-21 10:51:19 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: cookiefleck: I think he's vomited like 12 times already in court... he's laying it on a little thick

Yeah it's a little ridiculous.  Although no more ridiculous than his horseshiat story of firing several shots through a closed bathroom door without first making sure it wasn't his GF in there.


I'd be drinking if I were him, too.
 
2014-04-21 10:51:58 AM  

Rand's lacy underwear: FarkingReading: thornhill: Republican Representative Garry Smith told Reuters he proposed the cut after a parent complained about the book's "graphic pictures of two females having sex" and because the college did not offer another choice for summer reading.

It's kinda precocious that parents have no clue about the things their kids have already viewed on the internet.

[img.fark.net image 850x361]You're posting in the wrong thread.

That's also the wrong Harrison Ford flick for this thread. ;)


img.fark.net

I don't care.

 
2014-04-21 10:52:14 AM  
Christ, on fark too?

For fark sakes, i do my best to avoid this bloody circus every day. Given up listening to raid cause there's a farking update on who did what in the court every farking 10 minutes.
 
2014-04-21 10:52:52 AM  

Wolf892: mrsleep: SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?

I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?

Since when it might be your teenage daughter trying to sneak back into the house after she went to a party.


Pistorius doesn't have a teenaged daughter. And South Africa is a violent place. Still, even if he is telling the truth, his shooting so many times through a closed door is evidence that something is not right with his mind. Once into the ceiling would have been enough to make any intruder get his ass back out of the window as possible. I'm betting drugs or alcohol is a factor, but his lawyers don't want to disclose this, since it would mean a involuntary manslaughter conviction at the very least.
 
2014-04-21 10:54:24 AM  

nickdaisy: Break a leg!


Brilliant!
 
2014-04-21 10:54:34 AM  
That notwithstanding, I don't object to the idea of someone being coached on how to emote on the witness stand. People respond to emotional stress in radically different ways, and when the "wrong" response could send you to jail, I think it's only fair.

I know for a fact that if I'm ever a defendant on anything other than a highly technical matter, I would stay the hell off the stand if I could (and hope I'm in the US where my right to do so is explicitly written into the Constitution). I'm definitely weird enough in my emotional outlook that I could easily put off a jury or even a judge.
 
2014-04-21 10:55:59 AM  

Smoking GNU: Christ, on fark too?

For fark sakes, i do my best to avoid this bloody circus every day. Given up listening to raido cause there's a farking update on who did what in the court every farking 10 minutes.


FTFM
 
2014-04-21 10:59:45 AM  

mrsleep: I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?


Well, I suppose "When it's really your girlfriend in the bathroom" springs to mind.
 
2014-04-21 11:01:43 AM  

Mithiwithi: mrsleep: I wouldn't want to live some place where I couldn't shoot an intruder in my house. And since when is an intruder NOT a threat?

Are you actually advocating for the right to shoot someone who you can't see, haven't identified, and who is currently trapped with only one route of escape, which you have well covered? Especially when there's a resident of your household unaccounted for.


I imagine it takes some perpetual pants-wetting fear to decide that is a reasonable response to any and all intruders.
 
2014-04-21 11:02:46 AM  

Smoking GNU: Christ, on fark too?

For fark sakes, i do my best to avoid this bloody circus every day. Given up listening to raid cause there's a farking update on who did what in the court every farking 10 minutes.



And yet you clicked the link to get to this very discussion.

Thou dost protest too much, methinks.
 
2014-04-21 11:08:10 AM  

SpectroBoy: So... in South Africa, is it actually legal to kill an intruder who is in your bathroom and no apparent threat to you?

I mean, even if his story is true (which I doubt), didn't he murder someone he couldn't see (and thus could not have determined was an immediate threat)?


Call it The Biden defense.
 
2014-04-21 11:08:38 AM  
I've watched a lot of footage and have to say I am stumped.
 
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