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(Carl Sagan Portal)   "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" episode 7 discussion thread and drinking game. 9PM Eastern on Fox   (carlsagan.com) divider line 315
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2014-04-20 09:51:10 PM  
Now we all have to suffer the horrors of engine knock. Thanks Cosmos...
 
2014-04-20 09:51:13 PM  
Snot!
 
2014-04-20 09:51:21 PM  

rbuzby: It makes sense for the show to directly refute young earth creationism, considering what is happening today, with religion creeping into public schools and science being treated by so many as some "liberal conspiracy".

When the original series came out in the 70's, science was still highly regarded in the US.  I would put the peak of "science loving" in the USA somewhere around 1975-80.  We have gone far back arsewards since then.  It's weird and scary that human development can go backwards.  It's time for serious offensive action on behalf of science and observable reality.  Like this show. Yes, they should directly refute the biblical literalists.


I was in jr.HS in 1980, and I swear I remember both Biology (evolution) and Geology ( a very old Earth) being taught, and nobody derped out about it. When did all of this change?

/ I have a sinking feeling that my old school has probably changed for the worse in recent decades...
 
2014-04-20 09:51:43 PM  
HA HA

This show is about

LEAD!!!
 
2014-04-20 09:51:47 PM  
Contamination'snot funny.
 
2014-04-20 09:51:59 PM  

Destructor: Once upon a time, physicists toyed with the the idea the speed of light wasn't always what it is now. That's been disproven pretty thoroughly. I'm just curious about the other known forces.


But are you sure?  The biblical story of the Flood ends with the creation of the phenomenon of the rainbow.  Which wouldn't be possible without refraction, which wouldn't be possible without the speed of light being different in different materials.

If the speed of light was infinite before the Flood, light from stars further than 6000 light years (as defined by the current speed of light) could have reached Earth, (wrecking one 'proof' that the Earth is more than 6000 years old) , and refraction would have been undetectable.  because a fraction of infinity is still infinity.  Hence no rainbow until God made the speed of light finite, just to make a rainbow after the Flood.

/really surprised a Y.E. Creationist hasn't come up with that yet.
 
2014-04-20 09:52:00 PM  

ArgusRun: IronTom: mark12A: Uh-oh. He's in trouble with some of the most powerful people on the planet! Back after these messages...

/best commercial break point in the series!
//Big Geology? Encyclopedia Mafia?

Raelians, Lizard People, aliens?

Exxon Mobil.


Sweet Jesus. I was right.
 
2014-04-20 09:52:05 PM  

Irving R. Pointystick: Several important stellar processes couldn't proceed except via the weak force, so its strength is still measurable is astrophysical observations.


Thank you, sir.
 
2014-04-20 09:52:11 PM  
Is he wearing those glasses from They Live?
 
2014-04-20 09:52:14 PM  
Awwww, poor leaded pup.
 
2014-04-20 09:52:21 PM  
I would like to see a study of 1970 vs 2014. Be interesting to see how much lead is actually still around.
 
2014-04-20 09:52:55 PM  
If only the lead industry had been allowed more freedom, we'd all be millionaires.
 
2014-04-20 09:53:05 PM  

ArgusRun: ArgusRun: IronTom: mark12A: Uh-oh. He's in trouble with some of the most powerful people on the planet! Back after these messages...

/best commercial break point in the series!
//Big Geology? Encyclopedia Mafia?

Raelians, Lizard People, aliens?

Exxon Mobil.

Sweet Jesus. I was right.


Good call. Looks like we both get the wizard hat tonight.
 
2014-04-20 09:53:12 PM  

crypticsatellite: Snot!


Stew!
 
2014-04-20 09:53:35 PM  
And that man was....


You guessed it.
4.bp.blogspot.com
Frank Stallone.
 
2014-04-20 09:53:47 PM  

crypticsatellite: Awwww, poor leaded pup.


Doesn't cause engine knock like unleaded dog does.
 
2014-04-20 09:54:21 PM  

farkingismybusiness: And that man was....


You guessed it.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 252x297]
Frank Stallone.


No, it was TV's Patrick Duffy.
 
2014-04-20 09:54:34 PM  
Damn, only got through 3 beers tonight.
 
2014-04-20 09:54:45 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: I was in jr.HS in 1980, and I swear I remember both Biology (evolution) and Geology ( a very old Earth) being taught, and nobody derped out about it. When did all of this change?


The level of derp depends very much on where in the country you lived, and whether it was rural or urban; presumably also back then, since most of the court (particularly SCOTUS) cases associated to creationism and its variants come from the South.
 
2014-04-20 09:55:00 PM  
And the oil companies are STILL farking us.
 
2014-04-20 09:55:09 PM  
Nice David/Goliath story, not very Galactic/Cosmossy, but good illustration of happy accidents in science.

/Col. Jack D. Ripper was into something...
 
2014-04-20 09:55:10 PM  

farkingismybusiness: And that man was....


You guessed it.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 252x297]
Frank Stallone.


Where's Frank Stallone!
 
2014-04-20 09:55:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I would like to see a study of 1970 vs 2014. Be interesting to see how much lead is actually still around.


This is Lake Michigan samples from 1994-6

www.epa.gov
 
2014-04-20 09:55:42 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: But are you sure?


No. No one can be.

Vlad_the_Inaner: If the speed of light was infinite before the Flood, light from stars further than 6000 light years (as defined by the current speed of light) could have reached Earth, (wrecking one 'proof' that the Earth is more than 6000 years old) , and refraction would have been undetectable. because a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Hence no rainbow until God made the speed of light finite, just to make a rainbow after the Flood.


True. Of course, God could just blink like Genie and pretty much do whatever he wanted to do. So, this line of "reasoning" is pointless.

Vlad_the_Inaner: /really surprised a Y.E. Creationist hasn't come up with that yet.


The smarter ones have. But they're also smart enough to know it's pointless to follow that line of thought. It all boils down to simple (stupid) belief.
 
2014-04-20 09:55:48 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: farkingismybusiness: And that man was....


You guessed it.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 252x297]
Frank Stallone.

No, it was TV's Patrick Duffy.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-20 09:55:51 PM  

Destructor: Irving R. Pointystick: Several important stellar processes couldn't proceed except via the weak force, so its strength is still measurable is astrophysical observations.

Thank you, sir.


Any time.  Actual astrophysicists could tell you more, if you're interested.  Or probably Wikipedia.
 
2014-04-20 09:57:08 PM  
took the Antarctica Express
 
2014-04-20 09:57:49 PM  
EPA?  The whole series seems intelligently designed to pissed off Republicans.
 
2014-04-20 09:58:03 PM  
Is it Muskie in here, or is it just me?

/actual campaign slogan
 
2014-04-20 09:58:12 PM  

Irving R. Pointystick: Any time. Actual astrophysicists could tell you more, if you're interested. Or probably Wikipedia.


I'm just an enthusiastic amateur constantly looking around for a way to cheat nature... Must find a path to FTL something.... Stupid stubborn universe... ;-)
 
2014-04-20 09:58:57 PM  

12349876: cameroncrazy1984: I would like to see a study of 1970 vs 2014. Be interesting to see how much lead is actually still around.

This is Lake Michigan samples from 1994-6

[www.epa.gov image 244x202]


Wow. That's a bigger change than I expected.
 
2014-04-20 09:59:12 PM  
And he loved french fried taters. Mmmhmmm.
 
2014-04-20 09:59:45 PM  
Brilliant episode.
 
2014-04-20 09:59:48 PM  
fark you, Patterson, lead's awesome!
 
2014-04-20 09:59:57 PM  
Wonder if they had that girl with the blue-jeaned butt walk through on cue, of if it 'just happened'.
 
2014-04-20 10:00:09 PM  
That was a cool episode. I never really knew why lead was removed from automobile gasoline before.
 
2014-04-20 10:00:19 PM  
Dr. Tyson is now attempting to impugn the credibility of benevolent job creators who, at great personal expense, hire scienticians whose only job is to assure the public that their work is not harmful to the environment.
 
2014-04-20 10:00:24 PM  

ArgusRun: EPA?  The whole series seems intelligently designed to pissed off Republicans.


www.sundriesshack.com
 
2014-04-20 10:00:58 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That was a cool episode. I never really knew why lead was removed from automobile gasoline before.


I much prefer breathing in traffic nowadays.
 
2014-04-20 10:01:12 PM  
Did y'all see dat ass?
 
2014-04-20 10:01:27 PM  
Well that was a good episode in my opinion. Good for inspiring future scientists/enviromentalist. Now for Game of Thrones to inspire me to become the God of Tits and Wine.

As they say in Canada: Peace oot.
 
2014-04-20 10:01:48 PM  

IronTom: Wonder if they had that girl with the blue-jeaned butt walk through on cue, of if it 'just happened'.


Yep, you did.
 
2014-04-20 10:02:37 PM  
Biggest change from old to new Cosmos?

More commercials.  Less Space.
 
2014-04-20 10:02:49 PM  
Why does Neil keep scratching his balls?
 
2014-04-20 10:03:03 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Did y'all see dat ass?


She put in at least one or two extra shakes just for the camera.
 
2014-04-20 10:03:42 PM  

fisker: Why does Neil keep scratching his balls?


hahahahaha, was looking at the girl.
 
2014-04-20 10:03:57 PM  
Some parts of the world still use leaded gas, like the middle east :/
 
2014-04-20 10:05:53 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: That was a cool episode. I never really knew why lead was removed from automobile gasoline before.


The interesting thing is that it never had to be in gasoline in the first place. They knew that ethanol did the job quite well, and there were other more innocuous substances that would have worked. The problem was that they couldn't patent those, whereas they could (and did) patent TEL. Ethyl Corporation was created by Midgley, Kettering, et al, to cash in.
 
2014-04-20 10:06:07 PM  

IronTom: Krymson Tyde: Did y'all see dat ass?

She put in at least one or two extra shakes just for the camera.


It was certainly glorious.
 
2014-04-20 10:06:17 PM  
blog.werentboston.com
 
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