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(CNBC)   Malaysia Airlines flight leaving Kuala Lumpur makes emergency landing. On land this time   (cnbc.com) divider line 45
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2014-04-20 05:56:11 PM  
Subby knows something for sure about last time??
 
2014-04-20 05:57:29 PM  
-1
 
2014-04-20 06:08:48 PM  
Oh, they bought their tickets and this time they KNEW what they were getting into.
 
2014-04-20 06:11:59 PM  
Good thing they found it. I've seen things, they're often in disguise, like carrots, hand bags, cheese.
 
2014-04-20 06:12:51 PM  
So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?
 
2014-04-20 06:16:18 PM  

zarker: Why not just take your same chances at the destination?


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-20 06:16:27 PM  

zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?


For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.
 
2014-04-20 06:21:08 PM  

zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?


Depends, if gear is stuck down or half down because of  wind drag, and ammenities at gaining airport, if they can support. And range is dependant on amount of go-juice loaded to, it's just short of 3000Km to Bangalore
 
2014-04-20 06:21:57 PM  

zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?


I DNRTFA, but this seems like a fair point.  Would you rather crash at your destination or wherever you took off from?  I would get pretty freaked out if a stewardess asked me that, but I'd go with "desitnation".

Always read the fine print on your airplane tickets.  Does it say anything about landing safely or ever getting you there?  I didn't think so.
 
2014-04-20 06:24:16 PM  
Since I never fly, I always get a kick out of these stories.
 
2014-04-20 06:32:49 PM  
I just wanna tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you. ...
 
2014-04-20 06:37:07 PM  

jtown: Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.


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2014-04-20 06:39:41 PM  

jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.


I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer
 
2014-04-20 06:42:44 PM  
Are they sure it landed?
 
2014-04-20 06:43:52 PM  

zarker: jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.

I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer


Then you either misread, or whoever wrote it was wrong.

You're supposed to be able to reach an alternate airport. Not forinstance, be able to cross the atlantic and back without refueling. That would be impractical and illogical.
 
2014-04-20 06:45:41 PM  

zarker: jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.

I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer




No...enough fuel to make it to an alternate airport.
 
2014-04-20 06:47:24 PM  

zarker: jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.

I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer


xangam.com
 
2014-04-20 06:49:34 PM  
Malaysian Airlines is going down, baby, down!
 
2014-04-20 06:53:59 PM  

spawn73: zarker: jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.

I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer

Then you either misread, or whoever wrote it was wrong.

You're supposed to be able to reach an alternate airport. Not forinstance, be able to cross the atlantic and back without refueling. That would be impractical and illogical.


Was this particular flight across the Atlantic? DRTFA
Regardless, maybe they could've calculated the drag and fuel consumption?
 
2014-04-20 06:57:19 PM  
Crap...this means the news cycle just got refreshed on the missing airliner.  now this will be used to keep this story in the rotation, pushing out the real news.
 
2014-04-20 07:06:33 PM  
I need to start a charity for this.
 
2014-04-20 07:07:03 PM  

picturescrazy: Good thing they found it. I've seen things, they're often in disguise, like carrots, hand bags, cheese.


Can I have some of whatever drug it is that you're taking?
 
2014-04-20 07:08:09 PM  

zarker: spawn73: zarker: jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.

I read somewhere that planes are supposed to have enough fuel for their trip and back, in case something unexpected happens and they end up in the air longer

Then you either misread, or whoever wrote it was wrong.

You're supposed to be able to reach an alternate airport. Not forinstance, be able to cross the atlantic and back without refueling. That would be impractical and illogical.

Was this particular flight across the Atlantic? DRTFA
Regardless, maybe they could've calculated the drag and fuel consumption?


Why is that relevant to the question you posed?
 
2014-04-20 07:09:21 PM  

RyansPrivates: Crap...this means the news cycle just got refreshed on the missing airliner.  now this will be used to keep this story in the rotation, pushing out the real news.


Turn off CNN.

It's still sort of news on a lot of networks too, but most of them just say that nobody kows where MH370 is.
 
2014-04-20 07:13:20 PM  

gfid: I DNRTFA, but this seems like a fair point.  Would you rather crash at your destination or wherever you took off from?  I would get pretty freaked out if a stewardess asked me that, but I'd go with "desitnation".


I want to land at the closest reachable airport that has a full complement of emergency response equipment/people.

The arguments about additional drag have already been made.  There's also the point that until they have a look at the thing, they don't really know what went wrong.  If it's some kind of progressive problem, which I can't know one way or the other while in the air, I want to be on the ground as soon as possible, allowing a little extra time if that's what it takes to get somewhere more capable of dealing with a full-on emergency after landing.
 
2014-04-20 07:27:20 PM  

lindalouwho: picturescrazy: Good thing they found it. I've seen things, they're often in disguise, like carrots, hand bags, cheese.

Can I have some of whatever drug it is that you're taking?


Here ya go. http://weebls-stuff.com/songs/scampi/

/no link from mobile
 
2014-04-20 07:35:01 PM  

Radak: gfid: I DNRTFA, but this seems like a fair point.  Would you rather crash at your destination or wherever you took off from?  I would get pretty freaked out if a stewardess asked me that, but I'd go with "desitnation".

I want to land at the closest reachable airport that has a full complement of emergency response equipment/people.

The arguments about additional drag have already been made.  There's also the point that until they have a look at the thing, they don't really know what went wrong.  If it's some kind of progressive problem, which I can't know one way or the other while in the air, I want to be on the ground as soon as possible, allowing a little extra time if that's what it takes to get somewhere more capable of dealing with a full-on emergency after landing.


Yeah, just in case your aircraft has stage 3 cancer and it's progressing.  I know, they just want to land as soon as possible to figure out what's wrong, but FFS I was once on a plane that was delayed because there was a missing ashtray.

Yup - even though smoking was not allowed, they still had to have ashtrays and one was missing from someone's seat.

I'd bet that if everyone on that plane got a vote, we'd probably all stay aboard and risk our chances that there was no ashtray on seat 5A.
 
2014-04-20 07:44:33 PM  
So.... are they certain its not really the other plane and this one isn't missing now? After all they all kind of look alike.

/may be planist.
 
2014-04-20 07:44:36 PM  
gfid: ...but FFS I was once on a plane that was delayed because there was a missing ashtray.

Yup - even though smoking was not allowed, they still had to have ashtrays and one was missing from someone's seat.


Whoever reported that to the crew was totally like that kid in class who would always tell the teacher when she forgot to assign homework.
 
2014-04-20 07:49:43 PM  
"Daddy, why?"
 
2014-04-20 08:06:10 PM  

jtown: if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.


Maybe 370 took that too literally.
 
2014-04-20 08:30:43 PM  

Abox: jtown: if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.

Maybe 370 took that too literally.


I think it was the opposite.  I think one of the pilots decided to see how far they could go and find out what really happens when they run out of fuel.

Have you ever driven a car until it ran out of fuel?  Well, I have.  It's sort of what you'd expect.  The engine just goes dead and you come to a stop and you're either in the middle of nowhere or you;'re in a ghetto.  That's my experience anyway.

Last time I ran out of fuel it was because the truck I was driving had a 40 gallon tank and I was so used to (almost) never having to fill up that I forgot.
 
2014-04-20 08:34:05 PM  

gfid: Have you ever driven a car until it ran out of fuel?


Once.  Somewhere in south Texas.  I rolled into a gas station w/ closed pumps and spent the night there.
 
2014-04-20 08:40:14 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: So.... are they certain its not really the other plane and this one isn't missing now? After all they all kind of look alike.

/may be planist.


You know how THOSE planes are, with their landing gear issues-- don't make eye contact or they'll know we're talking about them.

/I must also be a planist
 
2014-04-20 08:43:43 PM  
In all fairness, there is currently no proof the MH370 didn't land safely somewhere.....

/I want to believe
//seekrit mooslin terrorist plot -OR-
///massive lithium battery fire
 
2014-04-20 09:16:37 PM  
Subby, are you suggesting the last one landed on water? Wouldn't that be a "watering"? Maybe in that case it was a "crash watering".
 
2014-04-20 09:51:15 PM  

jtown: zarker: So they had to make an emergency landing because their landing gear was farked up? Why not just take your same chances at the destination?

For one, if there's a major malfunction, SOP is to land as quickly as possible.  Second, they probably didn't have enough fuel to reach their destination with all that extra drag.  They don't top off the tank for every flight.  That would be dumb because extra fuel is extra weight which requires more fuel to keep it in the air.


Plus, I'd imagine flying with the landing gear stuck in the down position poses a risk of further damaging the equipment. Then you'd have much less chance of a safe landing.

And just to add unnecessary drama to the thread, at least this didn't happen:

ww2.hdnux.com
 
2014-04-20 10:01:47 PM  

cyberspacedout: Plus, I'd imagine flying with the landing gear stuck in the down position poses a risk of further damaging the equipment.


Pilots know the Vle speed for their aircraft. That's the maximum velocity for landing gear extended on planes with retractable gear. You want it up as soon as you can.
 
2014-04-20 10:06:15 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: You want it up as soon as you can.


That's what she said.
 
2014-04-20 10:11:41 PM  

cyberspacedout: That's what she said.


Hey, let's not bring your Mom into this.

//I keed, I keed! Happy Easter!
 
2014-04-20 11:54:04 PM  
Surely you can't be serious.
 
2014-04-21 12:06:38 AM  

kewlbeezer: Surely you can't be serious.


I am serious and don't call me Shirley.

//can't resist - my stepmom took me to this movie when I was 8 and I've loved her ever since
 
2014-04-21 12:13:05 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: kewlbeezer: Surely you can't be serious.

I am serious and don't call me Shirley.

//can't resist - my stepmom took me to this movie when I was 8 and I've loved her ever since


I'm surprised I was the first one to say it, to be honest.

//Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
 
2014-04-21 12:26:33 AM  

kewlbeezer: //Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.


We're all counting on you, kewlbeezer.
 
2014-04-21 06:04:01 PM  
With a blown tire on take off, normal procedure is to land at the nearest suitable airfield. This is because the tyres on the aircraft are made of extremely tough rubber with metal strands going through it (sort of like re-bar in concrete).

When they blow, they can cause damage to the aircraft skin. This could lead to de-pressurisation at higher altitudes or a leak in the fuel tanks (located in the wings), which could cause a fire. There's also the possibility that the remaining parts of the wheel and tyre could catch fire in the wheel well.

For the most extreme example of the damage caused by a blown tyre, just look up the Concorde accident at Paris.
 
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