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(BBC-US)   The story of the Hurricane does finally end   (bbc.com) divider line 57
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2014-04-20 11:52:35 AM  
RIP, funny man
 
2014-04-20 12:02:13 PM  
Katrina will always haunt us.
 
2014-04-20 12:07:08 PM  
Have we found Lootie?
 
2014-04-20 12:08:59 PM  
I just read his Wiki page. He had a hell of a life, with a big part of it being screwed over by the "justice" system.
 
2014-04-20 12:10:56 PM  

NutWrench: I just read his Wiki page. He had a hell of a life, with a big part of it being screwed over by the "justice" system black in America.


/same thing
 
2014-04-20 12:11:14 PM  
Not surprised he lived out the rest of his days in Canada. After what this country's alleged "justice" system did to him, I'd have given us the bird and walked too.
 
2014-04-20 12:12:06 PM  
Pig Circus goes on forever.
 
2014-04-20 12:12:32 PM  

Johnny Texas: He was great in Training Day Shawshank Redemption.

 
2014-04-20 12:12:36 PM  
 
2014-04-20 12:17:01 PM  
A man who made mistakes, but was a class act when he could have been bitter. Rest with the Lord good man.
 
2014-04-20 12:17:21 PM  
Without you, we never would have know Lootie . . .
 
2014-04-20 12:18:22 PM  
RIP Mr. Carter
 
2014-04-20 12:19:39 PM  
This story hardly ends, as we still have racially motivated, railroaded convictions happening all the time in this country.

And thanks to our friends on the Supreme Court we have even more protections for the prosecutors to insulate them from punishment when they are caught fixing the evidence.

Nothing really changes.
 
2014-04-20 12:21:18 PM  

QuesoDelicioso: Not surprised he lived out the rest of his days in Canada. After what this country's alleged "justice" system did to him, I'd have given us the bird and walked too.


That, plus the team that did most of the work to get him freed were Canadian.
 
2014-04-20 12:21:26 PM  

Johnny Texas: He was great in Training Day.


I always liked the Where's My Chicken gunfight from King Of New York... although I forget which part he played.
 
2014-04-20 12:22:20 PM  

Archimedes' Principal: Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8Wn1Mwwwk


Alternative link for those who prefer hip-hop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4opJA_P7Ew
 
2014-04-20 12:23:48 PM  

Johnny Texas: He was great in Training Day.


Looks like King Kong had shiat on him.
 
2014-04-20 12:25:06 PM  
With that title & the story coming from the BBC I thought that the last WW2 Hurricane pilot had died. In a completely different way this is just as sad. RIP Hurricane.

/they're probably getting close on the pilot issue too if it hasn't arrived yet.  Time marches on & anyone who flew in the Battle of Britain would be at a minimum 92 so....
 
2014-04-20 12:27:54 PM  
He got knocked the fark out ... permanently.
 
2014-04-20 12:31:16 PM  

untaken_name: Archimedes' Principal: Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8Wn1Mwwwk

Alternative link for those who prefer hip-hop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4opJA_P7Ew


Nice.

I searched the Youtubes hoping there was a PostModernJukebox version featuring Puddles, The Sad Clown.

But alas, no joy.
 
2014-04-20 12:34:40 PM  
RIP Mr. Carter


I remember your story on the movie, The Hurricane.
 
2014-04-20 12:35:44 PM  
http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

Myths about Ruben Carter.

/Hmmm,,,,,

 
2014-04-20 12:36:01 PM  
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo................................... ...........


How long before someone jumps in here to argue that because the movie got some stuff wrong, Rubin is actually guilty.
 
2014-04-20 12:36:42 PM  

GungFu: http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

Myths about Ruben Carter.

/Hmmm,,,,,


I have my answer.
 
2014-04-20 12:38:53 PM  
My mind is blown.

Once again I had a psychic / deja vu experience and I'm a card carrying skeptic.
Dylan's "The Story of Hurricane" song was stuck in my head last night, and I know I hadn't heard a thing mentioning him.

Ah, but I did read the story of wrongly convicted Anthony Porter in Illinois.  That was it.
 
2014-04-20 12:39:39 PM  
Free Mumia?
 
2014-04-20 12:40:28 PM  

Marshal805: Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................................. . ...........


How long before someone jumps in here to argue that because the movie got some stuff wrong, Rubin is actually guilty.



That's the other side of his story. Don't cry over it that someone will point it out instead of the 'whitewash' version of the story that lived in pop culture.

/Tawana White is Innocent
 
2014-04-20 12:43:24 PM  

netringer: My mind is blown.

Once again I had a psychic / deja vu experience and I'm a card carrying skeptic.
Dylan's "The Story of Hurricane" song was stuck in my head last night, and I know I hadn't heard a thing mentioning him.

Ah, but I did read the story of wrongly convicted Anthony Porter in Illinois.  That was it.


Statistical artefact - your brain doesn't count all the times you thought of something and no one related died.

RIP Rubin. You really got the farking shaft but I hope you found peace at the end.
 
2014-04-20 12:51:02 PM  
Good riddance to a man properly convicted. Stop believing movies. Ask  any of his assault or robbery victims before  and after his release. Or abut the times he got all stabby. Giardello sued the movie makers and won. Hurricane was not close to winning the belt. He was on his way out of boxing when the murders occurred.  Thrown out of the Army after four courts-martial. Don't believe that movie.......
 
2014-04-20 12:51:49 PM  

2.bp.blogspot.com

RIP Clarence Carter

Strokin' with Jesus, now.

 
2014-04-20 12:56:53 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Good riddance to a man properly convicted. Stop believing movies. Ask  any of his assault or robbery victims before  and after his release. Or abut the times he got all stabby. Giardello sued the movie makers and won. Hurricane was not close to winning the belt. He was on his way out of boxing when the murders occurred.  Thrown out of the Army after four courts-martial. Don't believe that movie.......


I never saw it. So, you know ... got that going for me. Which is nice. I guess.
 
2014-04-20 12:59:13 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Good riddance to a man properly convicted. Stop believing movies. Ask  any of his assault or robbery victims before  and after his release. Or abut the times he got all stabby. Giardello sued the movie makers and won. Hurricane was not close to winning the belt. He was on his way out of boxing when the murders occurred.  Thrown out of the Army after four courts-martial. Don't believe that movie.......


We get it. He's blah.
 
2014-04-20 01:08:17 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Good ... man ... Stop believing ... his assault or robbery victims...Hurricane ...boxing...Army ...that movie.......


Prior bad acts don't count. You don't get convicted of a crime just because you have committed crimes in the past.

You know this. Don't be a dick. Sometimes horrible injustice happens to the imperfect. Doesn't make it any less horrible or unjust.
 
2014-04-20 01:09:24 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Good riddance to a man properly convicted. Stop believing movies. Ask  any of his assault or robbery victims before  and after his release. Or abut the times he got all stabby. Giardello sued the movie makers and won. Hurricane was not close to winning the belt. He was on his way out of boxing when the murders occurred.  Thrown out of the Army after four courts-martial. Don't believe that movie.......


You tragically ineffectual little turd.
 
2014-04-20 01:13:25 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: A man who made mistakes


And what mistakes did he make? Seems like those mistakes were made for him, and against his will.
 
2014-04-20 01:13:30 PM  
What I didn't know about Carter--tip of the hat to Gung Fu for the inspiration to look this up--was that his boxing career was on the downswing--badly--after he lost that decision to Joey Giardello for the middleweight title.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=011387&cat=boxer

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joey_Giardello_vs._Rubin_Carter

CSB:  I was taken to see Joey Giardello speak when I was a kid.

/I still think that Carter may have had more to do with the triple murder at the Lafayette Grill than he would have had us believe.
//not enough evidence there to convict him beyond a reasonable doubt, though.
 
2014-04-20 01:19:00 PM  
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RIP Reuben Sandwich
 
2014-04-20 01:19:41 PM  

GungFu: http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

Myths about Ruben Carter.

/Hmmm,,,,,


FTL

This website, on the other hand, demonstrates that the evidence Carter provides to "prove" he was harassed and framed, is bogus

What's cute is they never actually provide any evidence, they just say they have.
 
2014-04-20 01:26:55 PM  
Ingredients
2 ounces of light rum
2 ounces of dark rum
2 ounces of grenadine
1 ounce of simple syrup
Juice of two limes
2 ounces of orange juice
Wedge of orange, for garnish
Cherries, for garnish
Instructions

Mix everything in a shaker. Fill a hurricane glass half full of ice - crushed ice is great. Pour mixture on top and top off with extra ice; garnish with an orange slice and some cherries. Drink responsibly. Enjoy.
 
2014-04-20 01:41:12 PM  
Sorry you died, wrongfully accused boxer guy.

/RIP
//The movie was pretty good too
 
2014-04-20 01:47:27 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

RIP
 
2014-04-20 01:49:12 PM  

Flappyhead: GungFu: http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

Myths about Ruben Carter.

/Hmmm,,,,,

FTL

This website, on the other hand, demonstrates that the evidence Carter provides to "prove" he was harassed and framed, is bogus

What's cute is they never actually provide any evidence, they just say they have.


Worth reading in this context, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_Carter

It is correct to say, as is asserted on the website, that Carter was never exonerated.  He was tried twice and convicted twice (mainly on the testimony of two not necessarily reliable eyewitnesses).  Both convictions were subsequently thrown out, and after the second one got tossed, prosecutors decided not to try Carter a third time, twenty years having elapsed since the crime.
 
2014-04-20 01:51:19 PM  

Marshal805: Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo................................... ...........


How long before someone jumps in here to argue that because the movie got some stuff wrong, Rubin is actually guilty.


Members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

/Don't know.
 
2014-04-20 01:58:41 PM  

tirob: Flappyhead: GungFu: http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/

Myths about Ruben Carter.

/Hmmm,,,,,

FTL

This website, on the other hand, demonstrates that the evidence Carter provides to "prove" he was harassed and framed, is bogus

What's cute is they never actually provide any evidence, they just say they have.

Worth reading in this context, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_Carter

It is correct to say, as is asserted on the website, that Carter was never exonerated.  He was tried twice and convicted twice (mainly on the testimony of two not necessarily reliable eyewitnesses).  Both convictions were subsequently thrown out, and after the second one got tossed, prosecutors decided not to try Carter a third time, twenty years having elapsed since the crime.


I'm not denying that part, just pointing out that the website claims it has evidence that Carter was never harassed or framed but never provide it.  Carter certainly wasn't an angel by any stretch, but it just bugs me when people try to counter what they say are unsubstantiated claims with similar unsubstantiated claims.
 
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2014-04-20 02:00:28 PM  
RIP Piston Hurricane

 cdn.wikimg.net
 
2014-04-20 03:18:01 PM  
RIP Hurricane. You were OK, as opposed to Bad Jack Crawley, "Such a bad man that Bob Dylan wrote a song to keep him in prison".
 
2014-04-20 03:21:51 PM  

some guy SC: Johnny Texas: He was great in Training Day.

I always liked the Where's My Chicken gunfight from King Of New York... although I forget which part he played.


Oblig
 
2014-04-20 03:26:25 PM  
www.aviation-history.com
RIP Hawker Hurricane
 
2014-04-20 03:27:30 PM  

Tigger: Red Shirt Blues: Good riddance to a man properly convicted. Stop believing movies. Ask  any of his assault or robbery victims before  and after his release. Or abut the times he got all stabby. Giardello sued the movie makers and won. Hurricane was not close to winning the belt. He was on his way out of boxing when the murders occurred.  Thrown out of the Army after four courts-martial. Don't believe that movie.......

You tragically ineffectual little turd.


You imbecilic naive maroon. Go and read the actual witness statements, especially Patty Valentine. Not the Hurricane's version or the Canadiens version but the actual statements. The same with the police reports. Start with why he was pulled over in the first place.
 
2014-04-20 03:44:54 PM  
Or as our friends in the far east would say, Typhoon:

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