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(Onion AV Club)   Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and according to pop culture, power turns children into little devil-monsters. Obvious tag kneecapped by one of the precious snowflakes (Not safe for work image in article)   (avclub.com) divider line 27
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2014-04-20 11:56:08 AM
thehatcheryllc.com
 
2014-04-20 11:57:11 AM
I was thinking that, take away his power base, and Joffrey is just a glorified Scut Farkus ready to be Ralphied.

Glad to see Anthony Fremont in there. People who say Joffrey is the most evil kid on screen tend to end up in the cornfield.

Anthony, for the most part, was a self-centered kid. Give Joffrey his powers, and that's one universe I would give a wide berth.
 
2014-04-20 12:05:41 PM
Most people handle power very poorly.
 
2014-04-20 12:06:41 PM
Glad to see Lord of the Flies included

/that movie seriously creeped me out
//and Bill Mumy's TZ kid definitely deserves to be there
 
2014-04-20 12:30:06 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Most people handle power very poorly.


Children especially, though.  I swear to Elvis, they're little animals.  Beasts, that want discourse of reason.

/I, of course, was never a child
 
2014-04-20 01:58:07 PM
turns?
 
2014-04-20 02:38:28 PM
The catalyst choice is dumb. It's not a child. It just took that form for comfort, or something. I don't know, the ending is a clusterfark (why take that image? Why not be Harbinger? He's the main reaper.), but since the reapers have been at it for millions of years, his form didn't really matter.
 
2014-04-20 04:20:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: The catalyst choice is dumb. It's not a child. It just took that form for comfort, or something. I don't know, the ending is a clusterfark (why take that image? Why not be Harbinger? He's the main reaper.), but since the reapers have been at it for millions of years, his form didn't really matter.


Mostly it drew the image from Shepherd's memories to make sure that he'd be looked at with a little bit of mixed feelings instead of rejecting things out of hand.
 
2014-04-20 04:30:58 PM
"Absolute power does not corrupt absolutely, absolute power attracts the corruptible"
 
2014-04-20 04:40:34 PM
I know most of Once Upon A Time's characters are public domain but isn't Peter Pan still copyrighted? I'm surpised they can use him.
 
2014-04-20 05:16:30 PM
No kung-fu kid from Red Sonja?
 
2014-04-20 05:49:59 PM
For some reason I thought this was going to be an article about Bieber.
 
2014-04-20 06:05:32 PM
www.theclevelandfan.com
 
2014-04-20 06:16:22 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: I know most of Once Upon A Time's characters are public domain but isn't Peter Pan still copyrighted? I'm surpised they can use him.


It's different in other countries but IIRC, in the US the Peter Pan book is in the public domain and the play is copyrighted for another 8-10 years.
 
2014-04-20 06:59:53 PM

lindalouwho: Mid_mo_mad_man: I know most of Once Upon A Time's characters are public domain but isn't Peter Pan still copyrighted? I'm surpised they can use him.

It's different in other countries but IIRC, in the US the Peter Pan book is in the public domain and the play is copyrighted for another 8-10 years.


Fables couldn't use Peter Pan for their big bad because it is/was still under copyright in the UK. ABC is owned by Disney, however, who has an existing deal with the copyright holders in place for use of the character. Because of this, Once Upon a Time didn't have the same copyright issues, so they were free to turn Peter Pan into THEIR major villain for a story arc.
 
2014-04-20 07:47:23 PM
NSFW?  For the love of ...

...I would really appreciate it if the next mass cultural shift in America were to be "not losing our collective cool when confronted with an exposed female nipple".  We rank 'simulating murder' as a far greater offense than 'seeing a nipple'.

But then we'd have to replace it with something equally inane, I guess. It would depend on what the replacement social boogeyman would be.

... Men with ear hair? People with attached earlobes? Something about ears, I just know it. Slutty, slutty ears.
 
2014-04-20 07:58:21 PM

Mad_Radhu: lindalouwho: Mid_mo_mad_man: I know most of Once Upon A Time's characters are public domain but isn't Peter Pan still copyrighted? I'm surpised they can use him.

It's different in other countries but IIRC, in the US the Peter Pan book is in the public domain and the play is copyrighted for another 8-10 years.

Fables couldn't use Peter Pan for their big bad because it is/was still under copyright in the UK. ABC is owned by Disney, however, who has an existing deal with the copyright holders in place for use of the character. Because of this, Once Upon a Time didn't have the same copyright issues, so they were free to turn Peter Pan into THEIR major villain for a story arc.


Ahh, so characters as opposed to book/play.

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2014-04-20 08:26:57 PM

lindalouwho: Ahh, so characters as opposed to book/play.


I think it still goes back to the book and play copyright providing the ownership of the character, just that Disney has a license to use the characters while DC would have had to pay out the nose to use them, so in Fables they went with the cheaper route and changed to character who is out of copyright. You can always use someone else's character if you are willing to pay for the use (such as when all the various video game characters appeared in Wreck-It Ralph).
 
2014-04-20 08:29:20 PM
And if the copyright holders are willing to let you use their characters, of course.
 
2014-04-20 08:32:23 PM
Power only turns children into monsters if you don't use enough voltage.
 
2014-04-20 08:36:51 PM

Mad_Radhu: lindalouwho: Ahh, so characters as opposed to book/play.

I think it still goes back to the book and play copyright providing the ownership of the character, just that Disney has a license to use the characters while DC would have had to pay out the nose to use them, so in Fables they went with the cheaper route and changed to character who is out of copyright. You can always use someone else's character if you are willing to pay for the use (such as when all the various video game characters appeared in Wreck-It Ralph).


There were similar issues addressed recently with Sherlock Holmes: some of the characters are out of copyright and some aren't, but I think a court just ruled that everything is now out of copyright because the first stories are.

/Peter Pan gets to be more fun because it exists as a book, a play a movie, etc. I'm pretty sure Walt Disney bought the movie rights to make his animated film, and Spielberg's hook was actually made off those rights
//And to add to the fun, the rights are owned by GOSH (The Great Ormand St Hospital in London, which is the leading children's hospital in the UK).
 
2014-04-20 08:40:59 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Mad_Radhu: lindalouwho: Ahh, so characters as opposed to book/play.

I think it still goes back to the book and play copyright providing the ownership of the character, just that Disney has a license to use the characters while DC would have had to pay out the nose to use them, so in Fables they went with the cheaper route and changed to character who is out of copyright. You can always use someone else's character if you are willing to pay for the use (such as when all the various video game characters appeared in Wreck-It Ralph).

There were similar issues addressed recently with Sherlock Holmes: some of the characters are out of copyright and some aren't, but I think a court just ruled that everything is now out of copyright because the first stories are.

/Peter Pan gets to be more fun because it exists as a book, a play a movie, etc. I'm pretty sure Walt Disney bought the movie rights to make his animated film, and Spielberg's hook was actually made off those rights
//And to add to the fun, the rights are owned by GOSH (The Great Ormand St Hospital in London, which is the leading children's hospital in the UK).


Wow, I think it's wonderful and delightful that a children's hospital owns the rights!
How did that come about?
 
2014-04-20 08:50:10 PM

lindalouwho: Wow, I think it's wonderful and delightful that a children's hospital owns the rights!
How did that come about?


There was a great part of the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony that referenced the Peter Pan link with the hospital.
 
2014-04-20 09:07:03 PM

Mad_Radhu: lindalouwho: Wow, I think it's wonderful and delightful that a children's hospital owns the rights!
How did that come about?

There was a great part of the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony that referenced the Peter Pan link with the hospital.


Oh thanks! I missed all that - was out of commission for a few months that year (amnesia via pain meds). The googles can tell me the rest.
 
2014-04-20 10:38:05 PM

StopLurkListen: NSFW?  For the love of ...

...I would really appreciate it if the next mass cultural shift in America were to be "not losing our collective cool when confronted with an exposed female nipple".  We rank 'simulating murder' as a far greater offense than 'seeing a nipple'.

But then we'd have to replace it with something equally inane, I guess. It would depend on what the replacement social boogeyman would be.

... Men with ear hair? People with attached earlobes? Something about ears, I just know it. Slutty, slutty ears.


Came.

\here to say that.
 
2014-04-21 10:35:53 AM
Anyone who as step-parented a child can tell you this.
 
2014-04-21 11:36:46 AM
If they're going to recognize one AI, they need to recognize another.

List fails without the Red Queen.
 
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