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(New York Magazine)   If you thought the American razor industry couldn't get any more ridiculous, you'd be wrong. And it represents what's wrong with American ingenuity   (nymag.com) divider line 45
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2014-04-20 01:14:57 PM  
6 votes:
collectorsfrenzy.com
2014-04-20 11:43:37 AM  
5 votes:
Even better than Dollar Shave Club is buying a DE safety razor. They're $30 or less online, and blades go from $0.08-$0.30 each if you buy in bulk. The shave is closer than a cartridge, too, in my experience.
2014-04-20 01:02:54 PM  
4 votes:
This isn't Ameican Ingenuity. This is some farking moron giving another farking moron with a business degree oversight of an engineering team.

/Simpsons did it.
2014-04-20 12:58:51 PM  
4 votes:
This article is what's wrong with American journalism, so it's fitting.
2014-04-20 11:32:06 AM  
4 votes:
Obligatory (NSFW language)
2014-04-20 11:18:10 AM  
4 votes:
So... Dollar Shave Club then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG9qYTJMsI
2014-04-20 01:20:30 PM  
3 votes:

gingerjet: So the articles entire premise is that consumer will buy a new product?  Or not? I can't really tell what the point of the article except to biatch.


The point of the article was in the sponsored link to DORCO at the end of the article.

The author says:

1) Gillette has a new process that Gillette claims will make your shave even closer than before
2) The author doesn't provide any metrics one way or the other
3) The author doesn't think the new blades will do what Gillette claims
4) The author has no idea really if the new blades will do what Gillette claims
5) The author thinks all of that is over, OVER, and recommends DORCO.

Literally, the author makes a claim about Gillette's new product not being effective, and not being worth what they ask for it but apart from his saying so, he provides no evidence that the new product is not effective.

It could very well be that in terms of closeness and perceptibility of that closeness, the new Gillette blade is a breakthrough.

We'd never know that from the author's article.

We just get the link to DORCO.
2014-04-20 01:20:27 PM  
3 votes:
For all you people preaching Dollar Shave Club, you can buy the razors from the same place they do: www.dorcousa.com

DSC buys them from Dorco and repackages them. But then yourself for even cheaper.
2014-04-20 01:07:55 PM  
3 votes:
I haven't shaved my face in more than 15 years.

/problem solved....
2014-04-20 12:46:43 PM  
3 votes:
I have one of the Gillette something or others, not sure which one to be honest, Tri-Pro Flexecutioner Powersport Xtreme or something like that, and I only have to buy a package of razor heads once every year and a half or so.  I shave six days a week and a single cartridge lasts between three to six months, so it's not like it's such an expense that I really ever even think about it.
2014-04-20 01:31:32 PM  
2 votes:

been shaving with one of these for about 10 years.  never needed replacement.  had it sharpened once.


www.maggardrazors.com


suck it hipsters.

2014-04-20 01:16:28 PM  
2 votes:

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


Because most of us a) want our face to actually be smooth after shaving b) don't like the sensation of having the hairs pulled out by scalding hot steel whirligigs.
2014-04-20 01:14:06 PM  
2 votes:

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


Electric razors take longer to use.  I can shave my face in less than 30 seconds with a replaceable cartridge razor.
2014-04-20 01:11:27 PM  
2 votes:
Mark my words. Favorite me, favorite this thread. Bookmark it. Do whatever you have to do to scorch my prescient words.

Within the next decade, maybe two, the disposable razor industry will have its come to Jesus moment. There will be a strong push towards simplicity and a return to basic 1 or 2 blade disposable safety razors. No batteries. No swivel heads. No moisture strips. One or two blades. Minimalist design.

The ads will mock the 8 blade razors of tomorrow, with the major players acting like they weren't the ones responsible for blade inflation, pretending that they are the innovators, and marking up the price of the simple designs as if it somehow costs more to manufacture less.

But alas, the insanity will have stopped. Well, it will have turned its fickle eyes towards other arms race products with ridiculous, meaningless specifications in the name of sounding better without actually producing any additional value. But I won't spoil that one for you. You'll just have to experience it for yourselves.
2014-04-20 01:09:37 PM  
2 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-04-20 01:06:34 PM  
2 votes:
What a terrible idea.  That reminds me of all those ridiculous products you see advertised on TV.  If you really think that'll solve whatever problem you're having with your shave, then you're a damn fool.

I've been saying for years that it's more profitable to pay marketing people to convince the customer that a product is superb and necessary than it is pay engineers to actually come up with a product that says those things on its own.
2014-04-20 12:31:16 PM  
2 votes:

Voiceofreason01: welp, time to bust out the strait razor


and shred my face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1T93rJ9p-s) (NSFW and violent link)

change1211: Or just use an electric razor, they're far less terrible to use.


and look like a bum
2014-04-20 12:21:13 PM  
2 votes:
Or just use an electric razor, they're far less terrible to use.
2014-04-20 11:58:54 AM  
2 votes:
I only shave with personally-knapped flint blades and a balm I make from the bark of trees I planted as a toddler.

/there
2014-04-20 08:45:47 PM  
1 votes:
The more you eat the more you fart:
Like: badger brushes vs boar brushes. They both work exactly the same...but hipsters buy badger bc its more expensive.

that's silly.  i don't know why "hipsters" do the things they do, but that doesn't negate the fact that badger hair brushes work better.
2014-04-20 06:29:25 PM  
1 votes:
So, Superman's laser heat vision can be negated with a cheap hand-held mirror?
2014-04-20 02:31:53 PM  
1 votes:
I don't shave.  I don't want to face that.

Early morning.  Getting ready for work after another night of insomnia.  Staring at myself in a mirror with a razor in my hand.  One has some big decisions to make...
2014-04-20 02:04:06 PM  
1 votes:

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]


Back when I was forced to shave, this was my most practical choice - along with a brush and a jar of Crabtree&Evelyn shaving crème.

But it's been decades since I shaved - the wife insists I grow beard, although these days the grey....
2014-04-20 01:55:24 PM  
1 votes:

Road Rash: Learn to shave at the end of a hot shower, with just a little bar soap lathered up. The whiskers are nice and soft by then. Neaten up the sideburns when you get out.

I prefer a Gillette Extreme 3 - they last up to 3 weeks for me. Oh - be sure to clean out the whiskers from between the blades and then dry it out.



This is one of the things that drove me away from cartridge razors.... constant snagging of hairs in between the blades (ouch), and constantly clogging(pain in the ass)...
2014-04-20 01:51:12 PM  
1 votes:
I don't think it's what wrong with the American razor industry, it's more indicative of what's wrong with American business. You have to keep innovating, however absurd the innovations are, in an attempt to provide ever-increasing rates of return to investors.

There was a time when you were considered a success in business by making a quality product that people needed and keeping your customers satisfied. Apparently that's not enough any more.
2014-04-20 01:49:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:


Can hipsters do NOTHING without going waay overboard??

You gotta turn something simple like shaving into a $200 ritual to feel manly?
2014-04-20 01:43:03 PM  
1 votes:
Well being former military, i have dabbled in using different brands and types of razors. Single blade disposables to three blade, then tried 5 blade. After an entire 7 month tour in Iraq using single blade razors i came back and discovered the original Gillette fusion 5 blade. The difference was amazing, and quite noticable. Haven't tried anything beyond that, and now I'm content with my beard so I'm saving a fortune in shaving products.
2014-04-20 01:35:14 PM  
1 votes:

ccudmore: Tried Dollar Shave Club. After the first week my face looked like I'd been in a fight with a cat with sharp claws. I was cut, nicked and sliced. Sadly back to the old expensive Gillette blades


Then you did it wrong.

You dont use pressure with a safety razor like a cartridge.
2014-04-20 01:34:23 PM  
1 votes:
Bought a Dorco handle and a box of cartridges (the 4-blade ones) in February and that was enough to get free shipping. 24 cartridges is more than a year's supply for me, all for $30.

They work great and when buying direct I'm not a Dollar Shave Club revenue stream. I like that.

Badger hair brush, mug and soap. Yes, badger hair. My old boar's hair brush didn't hold the right amount of water to make good lather. The badger hair brush worked much better.
2014-04-20 01:33:56 PM  
1 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: Johnny Texas: So Fark even has shaving snobs?

Hipsters fark lots of stuff up.

You can get a good shave for much less money if you buy into their shiat.


Reading this thread hipsters are simultaneously shaving with hand edged antique razors and growing beards like Billy Gibbons.

/Fark.com, where hipster hate consumes itself like ouroboros
2014-04-20 01:32:51 PM  
1 votes:

Gig103: Even better than Dollar Shave Club is buying a DE safety razor. They're $30 or less online, and blades go from $0.08-$0.30 each if you buy in bulk. The shave is closer than a cartridge, too, in my experience.


This... been doing this for a while now and I am still living off of my original purchase of feather and persona blades 5 years later with about half still left....   It makes dollar shave club look expensive.

/shave just 2 or 3 times per week...
2014-04-20 01:20:28 PM  
1 votes:
I can buy a bag of twin blade disposable razors for about $.50 a piece, and each one will last me a month or so.
2014-04-20 01:15:20 PM  
1 votes:
I use a mach 3. I only shave every other day, opting for the shadow look half the time. If you blow really hard on the blades, to dry them off after use, they last forI months. use 5 or 6 cartridges per year, so it really isn't worth buying a new razor to save $15 per year. How often are people switchingWtf bladeEtc?
2014-04-20 01:12:23 PM  
1 votes:

What. The. Fark?


Honestly, Gillette, if I didn't know any better, I'd almost assume that you were pulling this kind of shiat specifically to drive people away from such silly-ass products. Even The Onion can't mock you any more than you mock yourselves, and that's saying something.

Gig103: Even better than Dollar Shave Club is buying a DE safety razor. They're $30 or less online, and blades go from $0.08-$0.30 each if you buy in bulk. The shave is closer than a cartridge, too, in my experience.


Cannot be stated strongly enough. I use a Merkur Classic, and I buy Astra Superior Platinum blades in boxes of 100. About 10 cents or so a blade, each of which lasts for about a week of daily wet shaves. Gillette's ridiculous pricing, and the industry's assiduous greed in chasing those prices, drove me back to DE safety razors, and I haven't regretted it.

If you're worried about disposal, here's a simple solution. Buy something in a metal can with a resealable plastic cover - I prefer wasabi peas. Once empty, cut a rectangular slit in the top of the cover, and you have a recyclable, metal container that you can drop into a recycle bin once it's full. Keep it under your sink, change your blade once a week, and you're good to go. Takes a couple of years to fill one can.
2014-04-20 01:12:15 PM  
1 votes:

ajgeek: This isn't Ameican Ingenuity. This is some farking moron giving another farking moron with a business degree oversight of an engineering team.

/Simpsons did it.


The problem is this constant urge to "improve" things, even after the point where they work just fine. At a certain point, things actually get stupid and less useful. But the "progress" must go on. . . .

See also: "smart" TVs that switch the input source when you simply want to get a DVD out of the player, "smart" cars that second-guess when your wipers should be on or your lights dimmed, etc.

Or, you know, Windows 8.
2014-04-20 01:09:54 PM  
1 votes:
I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?
2014-04-20 01:09:00 PM  
1 votes:
The last thing I need when I'm half asleep is a razor that swivels. I'd probably end up needing a tourniquet for my neck. This might cause problems when I'm driving to work.
2014-04-20 01:05:43 PM  
1 votes:
2014-04-20 01:05:38 PM  
1 votes:
I buy the disposable Gillette Sensor 3. There was a huge increase in comfort when they went to twin blades, a noticeable increase when the Sensor came out with independently floating blades, and a marginal increase in three blades over two. I shave only 3-4 days a week, so I use about one razor a month. Oh, and I use cream hair conditioner instead of shaving cream; something I picked up from watching Queer Eye; it really makes a much better and cheaper shaving cream than the foamy or gel stuff.
2014-04-20 01:04:57 PM  
1 votes:
So the articles entire premise is that consumer will buy a new product?  Or not? I can't really tell what the point of the article except to biatch.
2014-04-20 01:03:15 PM  
1 votes:
I just use the same blade cartridge for a six or so months before swapping out. Growing a goatee and hiding in a museum's collections storage where the public won't see me (so facial appearances are not essential) certainly help.
2014-04-20 12:04:00 PM  
1 votes:
FTFA: the ProGlide FlexBall

Well, the name definitely screams, 'you can shave your nuts with this.'
2014-04-20 12:02:57 PM  
1 votes:
I find more blades make it more difficult to shave. I needed razors last week and found the megamarts barely even carry twin blades any more. Those work fine for me.
2014-04-20 11:39:38 AM  
1 votes:
Dollar Shave Club FTW.

With shaving cream from Kiehl's and a Braun for days when I feel lazy.
2014-04-20 10:06:43 AM  
1 votes:
welp, time to bust out the strait razor
 
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