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(New York Magazine)   If you thought the American razor industry couldn't get any more ridiculous, you'd be wrong. And it represents what's wrong with American ingenuity   (nymag.com) divider line 251
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2014-04-20 02:44:46 PM  

JuggleGeek: This "article" is just an add for http://www.dorcousa.com/  which is even linked in the article.

I read it, mostly thinking "This is stupid, you can buy cheap double bladed disposables for very little".  At the end, I was curious about the site they were trying to get people to buy razors from, so I clicked.  This is what I got.  I thought it was funny that the first thing on their front page was for a six bladed razor - one of the stupid things the article was whining about.

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World's first six bladed razor? These has been on the shelves of the my grocery store for a couples years now.
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2014-04-20 02:45:11 PM  
I started with the disposable double blades once upon a time.  I shave in the shower, so it's easy to rinse them out really well, and they last for a month. When I got married the first time, my new wife got me a bulk pack of them at Sam's Club.  That went in the upstairs closet to be slowly used up.  A few years after the divorce, I had a girlfriend (not knowing I already had a stash) buy me a big package of the twin blade razors from Sam's Club.  They went next to the other bag.  Recently, my second wife decided to buy another large bag of disposable twin razors, not realizing I have about 150 razors already.  I am set for life.  In fact, my estate sale will involve about a dozen packs of unopened, vintage disposable double-blade razors.
 
2014-04-20 02:46:53 PM  
I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.
 
2014-04-20 02:47:41 PM  

axeeugene: Double-edged safety razor convert here. I never did spend much on the disposables before, opting for whatever the cheapest option was, but after I bought a couple of really nice, heavy-duty antique razor handles for about $8 each and 100+ blades for about $15, I was sold. I don't think I'll spend another dime on razor hardware for the next two years at the frequency with which I shave, and although the process is a little more time-consuming and the risk of nicking is a bit higher, I've found the whole experience of shaving this way has become more pleasurable.

Telling the companies in the obscene cartridge racket to fark off is just an added bonus.


These double edge safety razors sound like a pretty "hip" thing to do. My first razor was with one of them newfangled contraptions. I was lazy about proper disposal of the used ones, and it became a safety hazard. I switched to disposables in the seventies when I went to boot camp, and never switched back.
 
2014-04-20 02:48:29 PM  

Voiceofreason01: welp, time to bust out the strait razor


I'm holding out for the fjord razor.
 
2014-04-20 02:51:34 PM  

SpaceBison: JuggleGeek: This "article" is just an add for http://www.dorcousa.com/  which is even linked in the article.

I read it, mostly thinking "This is stupid, you can buy cheap double bladed disposables for very little".  At the end, I was curious about the site they were trying to get people to buy razors from, so I clicked.  This is what I got.  I thought it was funny that the first thing on their front page was for a six bladed razor - one of the stupid things the article was whining about.

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World's first six bladed razor? These has been on the shelves of the my grocery store for a couples years now.
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I tried those, because they were so inexpensive.  Not terrible, but they did not feel particularly nice.
 
2014-04-20 02:55:04 PM  
I'll buy this new razor for the same reason I'll pay $7,000 for speaker cables -- I'm an idiot who watches TV!
 
2014-04-20 02:55:40 PM  

Dafatone: This article sucks.  Jesus.

Yes, Dollar Shave and other alternative razor plans are cheaper and probably better.  Yes, a majority of Americans (myself included) are going to stick with being ripped off by Gillette.

This sounds like a paper written by an MBA student.  "Gillette is everything wrong with America because they are not innovationing to synergize their utility" etc etc.


What struck me about the article is how he completely ignored the fact that Gillette isn't the problem so much as are the consumers who buy into their marketing.

$.02
 
2014-04-20 02:55:55 PM  

Back Alley Proctologist: I heard Clark Howard recommend a razor that lasts a LONG time. Does anyone know what it was? I just caught a little bit of it, was it the dollar shave club? At the moment, I'm using a plug-in trimmer to shave... it gets it close enough and will probably last forever. I'm not a fan of electric shavers that rip hairs out.


I don't know who he is, but probably not the Dollar shave club - those are just cartridges competing with Mach3/Fusion.

There are brands that make DE razors out of stainless steel (Weber & Above The Tie) and they're around $100. That should last you a lifetime. You can check on eBay for old Gillettes that your grandfather, or great-grandfather used, still in shave condition.

For around $30 you can get a pot metal razor from Edwin Jagger, Merkur, or Parker online. Maybe not the same lifetime quality but if you take care of it, I see no reason it shouldn't last decades or more.
 
2014-04-20 02:56:49 PM  
Shaving sucks. Luckily I only do it once a week and even then I use shears to get the long stuff off, so I'm perpetually stubbly.
 
2014-04-20 02:57:01 PM  

markfara: ajgeek: This isn't Ameican Ingenuity. This is some farking moron giving another farking moron with a business degree oversight of an engineering team.

/Simpsons did it.

The problem is this constant urge to "improve" things, even after the point where they work just fine. At a certain point, things actually get stupid and less useful. But the "progress" must go on. . . .

See also: "smart" TVs that switch the input source when you simply want to get a DVD out of the player, "smart" cars that second-guess when your wipers should be on or your lights dimmed, etc.

Or, you know, Windows 8.


Holy fark is that DVD thing annoying...glad I'm not the only one/misery loves company/etc, etc.

/haven't tried Windows 8 yet
//never really saw the point of any of the versions after 3.1, to be honest
 
2014-04-20 02:57:36 PM  
Rub lubricant onto face. Shave it with a razor. Go on with life.
/honestly?
 
2014-04-20 02:59:13 PM  

Badgers: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: the ProGlide FlexBall

Well, the name definitely screams, 'you can shave your nuts with this.'

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One of the funniest things I've ever seen.
 
2014-04-20 02:59:19 PM  
Double edged razor.  100 blades, a few cakes of soap and a brush.  Total cost about $30 and I've been going on my second year, still have plenty of blades and soap left.  I shave sporadically and alternate between smooth and scruffy.  Get about three uses per blade, you can do the math if you're a daily shaver.

No cuts, no discomfort, no constantly clogged double and triple blade stupidity.
 
2014-04-20 02:59:19 PM  

bacchanalias and consequences: Rub lubricant onto face. Shave it with a razor. Go on with life.
/honestly?


But where is the action sound-track? Where is the athletic upper body, and the supermodel to rub your smooth face afterwards?
 
2014-04-20 03:00:51 PM  
PunGent
Holy fark is that DVD thing annoying...glad I'm not the only one/misery loves company/etc, etc.
/haven't tried Windows 8 yet
//never really saw the point of any of the versions after 3.1, to be honest


I hear microsoft is discontinued it's support of win3.1 after Apr 8th of this year. You might be ok if you have Win3.11 for workgroups.

Watch out for the Stoned or Monkey virus.
 
2014-04-20 03:02:34 PM  

letrole: // is there any real difference between can, bottle, or beer on tap?


From a home brewer's perspective, you bet. I treat them differently when packaging. They age differently too. I prefer my home brews in the keg.

Well, and there's that whole "don't have home beer canning process down yet" thingy.

/just brewed last night
 
2014-04-20 03:12:45 PM  

Gig103: Back Alley Proctologist: I heard Clark Howard recommend a razor that lasts a LONG time. Does anyone know what it was? I just caught a little bit of it, was it the dollar shave club? At the moment, I'm using a plug-in trimmer to shave... it gets it close enough and will probably last forever. I'm not a fan of electric shavers that rip hairs out.

I don't know who he is, but probably not the Dollar shave club - those are just cartridges competing with Mach3/Fusion.

There are brands that make DE razors out of stainless steel (Weber & Above The Tie) and they're around $100. That should last you a lifetime. You can check on eBay for old Gillettes that your grandfather, or great-grandfather used, still in shave condition.

For around $30 you can get a pot metal razor from Edwin Jagger, Merkur, or Parker online. Maybe not the same lifetime quality but if you take care of it, I see no reason it shouldn't last decades or more.


or...  Silver Tone Double Edge Blade Razor Shaver w Nonslip Metal Handle  $2.79.   Mine is nearly two years old, not a speck of rust, wear, or discoloration, and does the exact same thing.

/Unless you have people sneaking into your bathroom looking for brand names on your shaving equipment and judging you.
 
2014-04-20 03:17:31 PM  

Weatherkiss: I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.


Its not. Theres just a bunch of shaving hipsters on fark.

Nobody actually gives a damn but them.
 
2014-04-20 03:25:12 PM  

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


Summer in humid places? Electric razor can be fine in winter, but if your face is continuously sweaty, it doesn't work so well...
 
2014-04-20 03:26:06 PM  

RoyBatty: A lot of people advocate classic safety razors with a badger brush and various creams, but what most forget is the pyramid that allows the finest molecular straight edge, critical for that extra smooth shave.

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Yes. Totes works.
 
2014-04-20 03:26:45 PM  
phycomp.technion.ac.il

Tell me when they come up with a lonsdaileite blade I can shave a diamond with like a piece of cheese.  The truth is the Gillette Fusion 6 blade cartridges last me 6 to 8 months with daily shaving using that trimmer they have as a handle. I buy everything in the way of blades within the first few months of introduction because once it's an established product they're never on sale again.  I have enough blades for 5-10 more years if they're all the same quality. But this looks like just a new handle and the blades will remain the same.
 
2014-04-20 03:29:51 PM  

syrynxx: FormlessOne: each of which lasts for about a week of daily wet shaves

Jesus Christ - what are you, a Sicilian Yeti? I change blades about every three months, but I'm a Teuton.


Man, I wish I was a single "something" - I'm a Canuck/Irish mutt, best I can tell, and my friggin' beard is the manliest thing about me. I'm hell on razors.
 
2014-04-20 03:32:30 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Weatherkiss: I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.

Its not. Theres just a bunch of shaving hipsters on fark.

Nobody actually gives a damn but them.


That word.

"Hipster"

It means "people that annoy me," right?

/either that or everyone is a "hipster" in one way or another
 
2014-04-20 03:34:07 PM  
If you want a good shave all you need is some good, old fashioned razor blades and a Gillette adjustable razor.
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2014-04-20 03:34:34 PM  

jaytkay: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

I bought a Merkur safety razor. It gives a close shave, but I cut myself more often and it doesn't fit under my nose so I get a Xavier Cugat mustache.

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I have the same problem - pull nose up, shave sideways from center of upper lip to corner of mouth. Alternately, keep a disposable razor for troublesome areas, like under the nose and, if you're kind of fuzzy, under or on the earlobes.
 
2014-04-20 03:37:30 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: The more you eat the more you fart: Weatherkiss: I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.

Its not. Theres just a bunch of shaving hipsters on fark.

Nobody actually gives a damn but them.

That word.

"Hipster"

It means "people that annoy me," right?

/either that or everyone is a "hipster" in one way or another


I'd explain it to you, but you probably never heard of it.
 
2014-04-20 03:40:13 PM  

Frantic Freddie: "Little tiny hairs...growin' outta my face!"

/not obscure


So I take my razor *zip-zop*.
My face is ripped to shreds.
 
2014-04-20 03:41:47 PM  

wildcardjack: Daily shaving has been with us for a century that started with needing a sealing surface for gas masks. Are we still at threat for gas attacks, or the need for such masks? Do away with the razor like we have the wristwatch and get over the first world war.


I'm not listening to you.  I'm gonna be prepared when the next archduke of Austria-Hungary gets shot.

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2014-04-20 03:44:15 PM  

KidneyStone: I inherited my granpa's old double edge razor and one day threw a blade in it to see how it did. Been using it ever since.


Same here. One has a little vibrating thingy in the handle which I imagine would end up leaving me looking like that guy in American Werewolf in London. I've never been brave enough to use it. The other is adjustable for blade depth.
 
2014-04-20 03:49:11 PM  

WegianWarrior: Unsurprisingly, the multinationals are once again promising us a smoother, closer, better shave...
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Did you find that image somewhere or did you use a filter on it to get that effect?  If so which filter did you use?  It looks great.
 
2014-04-20 03:55:07 PM  

Pathman: been shaving with one of these for about 10 years.  never needed replacement.  had it sharpened once.
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suck it hipsters.


I'd probably cut my throat with one of those. I'll just stick with my Trac II razor*

* buy the Personna cartridges for this, not the very overpriced Gillette ones...
 
2014-04-20 03:55:49 PM  
The first razor I used was a metal safety razor, which used Schick and Gillett double edged razor blades that came in metal packets of 5, designed to allow you to slide them out and onto the razor without touching the edges.

I tried electric but they sucked.

One of the best disposable razors I tried was a mistake.

One company turned out a double bladed razor that fit on a removable handle. It was light and comfortable, the blades were cheap and, most of all, someone invented a thin, white plastic tab that sat between the blades and, with a touch of a finger, shoved all of the clotted hair and gunk out.

It made the blades last twice as long.

I loved them. So, naturally, they were taken off the market and the self cleaning option was discarded. See, if you produce razor blades that last too long, you don't make a big enough profit and stock holders start dumping your stock.
It's a pain in the arse to buy a razor with a stacked yard of blades in the head and a fancy connector only to find later, after using up the three other heads in the pack, that either you can't find anymore cartridges or if you do, they're about the price of a new car.

I have several straight razors, but my hands aren't that steady to risk using them. I got them from my grandfather.

Plus, when gas prices soared, it was pointed out that most plastics come from crude oil. So, what does the shaving industry do? Starts churning out plastic disposable razors at an unprecedented rate.

I have my old, well used but still working metal safety razor around somewhere and I think I can still get the double edged blades. I might to back to using it.

It was kinda cool, turning the knob at the base of the handle and watching the top open up like the bomb bay doors of a Flying Fortress. Darn near as strong also.
 
2014-04-20 03:58:16 PM  

WordsnCollision:


Came to post this, leaving satisfied.

/Rzzzzzzz!
 
2014-04-20 04:00:59 PM  
KILL
 
2014-04-20 04:03:34 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Weatherkiss: I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.

Its not. Theres just a bunch of shaving hipsters on fark.

Nobody actually gives a damn but them.


Well them and the 40,000 people on badger and blade forums.
 
2014-04-20 04:14:32 PM  

FizixJunkee: enry: Dollar Shave Club FTW.

Do they have options for us womenfolk?  I hate disposable razors, but the only other option seems to be the one they mention in the article: cheap razor handles (~$7) with $20 refills.


Wife loves the 4 bladed ones- http://www.dorcousa.com/for-women/. I love the men's 4, and prices are reasonable.
 
2014-04-20 04:18:56 PM  
 
2014-04-20 04:33:41 PM  

Carth: The more you eat the more you fart: Weatherkiss: I had no idea shaving snobbery was a thing up until this thread.

Its not. Theres just a bunch of shaving hipsters on fark.

Nobody actually gives a damn but them.

Well them and the 40,000 people on badger and blade forums.


Soo..about 0.025% of the population then?
 
2014-04-20 04:50:14 PM  

dbrunker: WegianWarrior: Unsurprisingly, the multinationals are once again promising us a smoother, closer, better shave...
[si.wsj.net image 555x412]

Did you find that image somewhere or did you use a filter on it to get that effect?  If so which filter did you use?  It looks great.


GIS for gillette flexball
 
2014-04-20 04:56:11 PM  

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


Because everyone is different, to include sensitive skin to facial hair thickness/toughness.

Electric razors, for me, dull up fast, and even when they're new they'll pull hair more than cut it which can cause irritation just as much as regular razor burn.(not to mention not getting close enough).

Cheap razors, for me, will tend to cause shaving bumps or just have enough imperfections to leave long scratch marks.

I pretty much use Gillette's Mach 3 or similar.

/thick and fast growing facial hair, sensitive skin

For people that never grow anything but peach fuzz or a few whisps of whiskers, some of that other stuff works fine.

I'm not sold on pivoting heads though, the tilt is bad enough.  More loss of direct control with a sharp implement is usually not a good thing.
 
2014-04-20 05:04:00 PM  
Best shaving soap: van der hagen unscented. Melt in whatever soap bowl you want with a few drops of whatever scent you want. I use Pinaud aftershave to scent mine.

Later..shave with whatever the hell razor is most comfortable for you.

The end.
 
2014-04-20 05:05:55 PM  
I normally use Shark DE blades (100 for $17) with a Parker handle, Proraso cream (it's great, but the old formula was way better), and a cheap ($15) badger hair brush.  This setup works very well for me, but it's a bit time-consuming.  When I'm in a hurry, I bust out the Fusion and I'm done in a minute or so.  As others have mentioned, keeping the blades clean and dry makes them last a lot longer, plus I strop them with my thumb when I'm shaving which seems to help as well.

Col. Conk's Bay Rum soap smells absolutely wonderful, so that sees some occasional use, but it doesn't lather as well as the Proraso.  I also have a Norelco electric that is almost totally unable to give me a decent shave on my neck, and takes as long as the DE for results that aren't as good otherwise.
 
2014-04-20 05:18:38 PM  

change1211: Or just use an electric razor, they're far less terrible to use.


I totally agree BUT the pay out is very nearly the same - do the math when the batts give out on your whiz bang batt operated razor like it did.  I did it because I was tired of buying Gilette Frying pans to shave with and bought an electric and in the end the two are (financially at least) about the same - within $15 over the course of a year or so.

How do they plan this?  What kind of evil genius is able to spec out an electric that (in the end) costs about as much as a wet razor.
when I figured this out, I began to look at economics in a whole new light.
 
2014-04-20 05:47:27 PM  
Razor industry today = aircraft industry 110 years ago.

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2014-04-20 05:47:35 PM  
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2014-04-20 06:17:02 PM  
My 1959 Gillette Red Tipped Super Speed...
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I want to get a 2nd one for my travel kit.
 
2014-04-20 06:18:42 PM  
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24.media.tumblr.com

"Okay, now for the biki line.  Okay, sitting down, legs up behind the head, aaaaaand..."
 
2014-04-20 06:29:25 PM  
So, Superman's laser heat vision can be negated with a cheap hand-held mirror?
 
2014-04-20 06:57:51 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I only shave with personally-knapped flint blades and a balm I make from the bark of trees I planted as a toddler.

/there


Hey! That sounds soooo cool. I'm totally going to start doing that now.
;p
 
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