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2014-04-20 01:57:38 PM  

LazyMedia: I buy the disposable Gillette Sensor 3. There was a huge increase in comfort when they went to twin blades, a noticeable increase when the Sensor came out with independently floating blades, and a marginal increase in three blades over two. I shave only 3-4 days a week, so I use about one razor a month. Oh, and I use cream hair conditioner instead of shaving cream; something I picked up from watching Queer Eye; it really makes a much better and cheaper shaving cream than the foamy or gel stuff.


Do you cut less w cream hair cond.? More blades = More blood w me....and the cheap 2 blade needs some assistance...
 
2014-04-20 01:58:15 PM  

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly


I bought a Merkur safety razor. It gives a close shave, but I cut myself more often and it doesn't fit under my nose so I get a Xavier Cugat mustache.

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2014-04-20 01:59:24 PM  

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


If I don't shave daily, an electric shaver won't work for my beard. It just gets caught and pulls rather than cutting. That is when the trusty double edge safety razor I had for 20 years does the trick nicely. Learn to shave properly, pick razor blades that work for you and change them when they get dull.
 
2014-04-20 01:59:54 PM  
TECH safety razor $10

Van Der Hagen premium shave set $10.99 from Walgreen's (mug, soap, brush. Enough soap for months)

Mercur Blades $5.50 for 10.

So, for about $27 you have enough supplies to shave for at least 6 months.

OR:

You can go the hipster douchebag route and spend $200 or more.
 
2014-04-20 02:00:39 PM  
I've had a full beard for as long as I can remember so I really haven't  paid attention to any shaving related stuff but for some reason I decide to read this thread only to find there are razor hipsters now. People really do ruin everything.
 
2014-04-20 02:01:08 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: LazyMedia: I buy the disposable Gillette Sensor 3. There was a huge increase in comfort when they went to twin blades, a noticeable increase when the Sensor came out with independently floating blades, and a marginal increase in three blades over two. I shave only 3-4 days a week, so I use about one razor a month. Oh, and I use cream hair conditioner instead of shaving cream; something I picked up from watching Queer Eye; it really makes a much better and cheaper shaving cream than the foamy or gel stuff.

Do you cut less w cream hair cond.? More blades = More blood w me....and the cheap 2 blade needs some assistance...


I pretty much never get cut with the Sensor. The blades are sprung at each end, so you get less nicking. The thicker the conditioner, the better protection, I find; I switched from the really cheap Suave to a more expensive, thicker brand.
 
2014-04-20 02:01:55 PM  
Unsurprisingly, the multinationals are once again promising us a smoother, closer, better shave...
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* Handle allows blade to pivot - why is this a good thing? I want my razor to go where I tell it to, not crosswise and slicing me open. It's a gimmick, although one that looks like an interesting piece of engineering; a small universal joint.

* 20% fewer missed hairs - I though that is why you had 5 freaking blades to begin with? Funny how I use a single blade, two passes and have zero to none missed hairs...

* Cuts hair shorter - which in the case of me and other traditional wetshavers means scraping off the top layer of skin. Also; 23 microns - that is one 50th of a mm, or just shy of a 1000th of an inch. Clearly a major step forward there...

* Increased skin contact - which is another way to say the previous design was sub-optimal. Also keep in mind that more contact isn't automatically a good thing - it could simply mean 23% more razor burn...

* Compatible with earlier cartridges - I'll give them that one; it's actually a good idea and will make the buy-in easier for the consumers.

* Battery-powered? I'll take that to mean this one vibrates as well then - because sharp blades on a wobbly stick needs to vibrate with at least 120Hz to shave your mug, I guess...

Want to impress me Gillette? Release a line of DE razors again - fixed, adjustable, three-piece, TTO, anything. Match that up with decent quality soaps and creams - the kind that needs a brush. THEN I'll be mightily impressed.
 
2014-04-20 02:02:17 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Mark my words. Favorite me, favorite this thread. Bookmark it. Do whatever you have to do to scorch my prescient words.

Within the next decade, maybe two, the disposable razor industry will have its come to Jesus moment. There will be a strong push towards simplicity and a return to basic 1 or 2 blade disposable safety razors. No batteries. No swivel heads. No moisture strips. One or two blades. Minimalist design.



I'm expecting a single monomolecular filament stretched at an appropriate distance from a guide that will keep me from taking a hunk out of my face.

/And my buckytube razor will last forever, or at least until I try to cut diamonds with it.
 
2014-04-20 02:02:28 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:

Can hipsters do NOTHING without going waay overboard??

You gotta turn something simple like shaving into a $200 ritual to feel manly?


Haha am as far from hipster as you can get. The gilettes and those other crazy razors give me the worst razor burn and the smell from those commercial shave gels is nauseating. Sure the initial startup can be a little pricey but after that I'm paying pennies for life to get new razors.
 
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2014-04-20 02:03:51 PM  
Do as I do!

Shave as I shave, losers!
 
2014-04-20 02:04:06 PM  

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]


Back when I was forced to shave, this was my most practical choice - along with a brush and a jar of Crabtree&Evelyn shaving crème.

But it's been decades since I shaved - the wife insists I grow beard, although these days the grey....
 
2014-04-20 02:04:38 PM  

LazyMedia: I buy the disposable Gillette Sensor 3. There was a huge increase in comfort when they went to twin blades, a noticeable increase when the Sensor came out with independently floating blades, and a marginal increase in three blades over two. I shave only 3-4 days a week, so I use about one razor a month. Oh, and I use cream hair conditioner instead of shaving cream; something I picked up from watching Queer Eye; it really makes a much better and cheaper shaving cream than the foamy or gel stuff.


So your not a man
 
2014-04-20 02:05:51 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:

Can hipsters do NOTHING without going waay overboard??

You gotta turn something simple like shaving into a $200 ritual to feel manly?


You have to be kidding - a one time investment in razor and brush vs. a lifetime of expensive blades and foaming goo in a can?
 
2014-04-20 02:06:04 PM  
A year's worth of razors is under $30 from Dorco. They're apparently the ones who supply Dollar Shave club.
 
2014-04-20 02:07:30 PM  
at least thread's not dull like some razors
 
2014-04-20 02:08:15 PM  
Came for a picture of the Homer car as an example, leaving disappointed.
 
2014-04-20 02:09:00 PM  

Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:

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Easily the best cream I've used

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2014-04-20 02:10:13 PM  

enry: Dollar Shave Club FTW.


Do they have options for us womenfolk?  I hate disposable razors, but the only other option seems to be the one they mention in the article: cheap razor handles (~$7) with $20 refills.
 
2014-04-20 02:10:46 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I only shave with personally-knapped flint blades and a balm I make from the bark of trees I planted as a toddler.

/there


If you were really a hipster instead of a poseur-poseur, you would know the trees need to have been planted by John Muir or Frank Lloyd Wright.
 
2014-04-20 02:11:01 PM  
I must admit I prefer my 5-blade face mower. I can't see paying buying a new handle just because they pilfered a design from Dyson. My wrists pivot just fine, thanks.
 
2014-04-20 02:11:22 PM  
El-Cheapo Western Family disposables and a Styptic Pencil do it for me. I pretty much only shave if I'm going out on any particular night which really is only once or maybe twice a week. I don't bother to shave the rest of the week, no one cares in my line of work and I don't deal with the Public so why should I? I usually shave every day when away on vacation though.
 
2014-04-20 02:11:54 PM  

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A little splash'll do you.

 
2014-04-20 02:12:25 PM  

Dirty J1: Well being former military, i have dabbled in using different brands and types of razors. Single blade disposables to three blade, then tried 5 blade. After an entire 7 month tour in Iraq using single blade razors i came back and discovered the original Gillette fusion 5 blade. The difference was amazing, and quite noticable. Haven't tried anything beyond that, and now I'm content with my beard so I'm saving a fortune in shaving products.


What he said. I've shaved my entire head for 15 years, and tried lots of different blade setups. The fusion is the easiest, and my 5 oclock shadow is 5am the next day. The vibrating version is noticeably better.

Shave in the shower while keeping the area you're shaving under the stream.

/my bro got me a set of "The Art of Shaving" bristles and creams. They are really nice, but I'd never drop $115 on them.
 
2014-04-20 02:12:28 PM  

RoyBatty: A lot of people advocate classic safety razors with a badger brush and various creams, but what most forget is the pyramid that allows the finest molecular straight edge, critical for that extra smooth shave.

[i.imgur.com image 219x225]



I remember the blather about pyramids sharpening razors (there were books! Actual paper books!), and I  thought "Why in the hell would Egyptians want sharp mummies?"

Just kidding, I actually thought "How in the hell could this possibly work, and why do people not clinically defined as 'morons' believe it?"

/The pyramids are a bunch of rocks stacked to a point. They did it that way because of the Tower of Babel fiasco, or perhaps because they did not know the secret of concrete and rebar. No UFOs or forgotten science necessary.
 
2014-04-20 02:14:15 PM  
So people who regularly shave with a DE how long does it take you? I tried for a few month but it always took far longer than the 45-60 second i can shave using a cartridge.
 
2014-04-20 02:14:28 PM  
No tiempo.

Who has time for all that hipster shaving shiat? Oh here, let me spend 20 minutes making foam and listening to indie music while I strop my blade. No thanks. I'll just go ahead and keep on with the ultra bargain generic brand good for about a shave and a half razors that take 4 minutes.

Plenty of things to do in life, spending half a day shaving with caveman tools isn't my idea of cool.
 
2014-04-20 02:14:32 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: TECH safety razor $10

Van Der Hagen premium shave set $10.99 from Walgreen's (mug, soap, brush. Enough soap for months)

Mercur Blades $5.50 for 10.

So, for about $27 you have enough supplies to shave for at least 6 months.

OR:

You can go the hipster douchebag route and spend $200 or more.


Or you could pay five bucks for a bag of ten Gillette twin blades, a buck for a can of Barbasol, and shave for a year for six bucks. Twenty seven dollars every six months to shave? Are you high?

/miser
//refuse to pay for cable tv too
 
2014-04-20 02:16:09 PM  
I'm very glad that some people get nice smooth shaves with twin blades, safety razors, or electrics.

I can't.  I've tried different shaving creams, different water temps, etc.

The biggest, best improvement I got and I mean ever was switching to the 5 blade ProGlide Fusion.  I've found that I can use almost any shaving cream I want and end up with something minimally irritating and seemingly smooth and close.  Aside from blade count, there's also things like spacing and angle to consider.   The 5 blade razors seem to put the blades closer and their angle appears different than twin or triple blade cartridge razors.

In 18 or so years i've gone from a cheapy disposable twin blade to some twin blade cartridge flexy thing, to a Gillette Mach 3 and then finally to the Fusion series for at least the last 6 years. In the past, I tried twice for about 10 months each to get a nice smooth shave with the lastest $100+ Norelco electric.  I loved having to have my absolutely DRY or risk serious pulling and razor burn, just to end up with something that looked like a 5 o'clock shadow at 2.
 
2014-04-20 02:16:37 PM  
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2014-04-20 02:19:33 PM  
What would happen to Gillette's business model if it took original sensor blades, and packaged them for sale for a very competitive $1.25 per a blade?

They could do a brown box sensor original campaign, have a laugh at themselves and it it might work.
 
2014-04-20 02:21:20 PM  

bmwericus: The more you eat the more you fart: Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:

Can hipsters do NOTHING without going waay overboard??

You gotta turn something simple like shaving into a $200 ritual to feel manly?

You have to be kidding - a one time investment in razor and brush vs. a lifetime of expensive blades and foaming goo in a can?


Nope. I use a de razor/shsve soap.

Theres no need to spend $200-$300 on stuff though
 
2014-04-20 02:22:40 PM  
Sure is fascinating getting to read all about male shaving habits and preferences...

I wonder, what do Farkettes shave with and what would that look like?
 
2014-04-20 02:24:53 PM  
I've dropped out of the razor's arms race altogether. I buy the most expensive BIC shaver option (which is farking cheap in itself). Handles attached to the head with two knives, out of the cheapest plastic possible, but with a lube strip. Never had a better shave.
 
2014-04-20 02:24:59 PM  

Carth: So people who regularly shave with a DE how long does it take you? I tried for a few month but it always took far longer than the 45-60 second i can shave using a cartridge.


45 to 60 seconds? It takes me 5 minutes. I would cut myself to pieces shaving that fast.
 
2014-04-20 02:25:01 PM  

Carth: So people who regularly shave with a DE how long does it take you? I tried for a few month but it always took far longer than the 45-60 second i can shave using a cartridge.


At first it took me a lot longer than with cartridges (because I was being ultra-careful), but now that I've been shaving DE for a while I can shave just as fast as when I was shaving with cartridges.

The actual shaving portion takes me about a minute or two at most these days.
 
2014-04-20 02:25:34 PM  

JustLookin: The more you eat the more you fart: TECH safety razor $10

Van Der Hagen premium shave set $10.99 from Walgreen's (mug, soap, brush. Enough soap for months)

Mercur Blades $5.50 for 10.

So, for about $27 you have enough supplies to shave for at least 6 months.

OR:

You can go the hipster douchebag route and spend $200 or more.

Or you could pay five bucks for a bag of ten Gillette twin blades, a buck for a can of Barbasol, and shave for a year for six bucks. Twenty seven dollars every six months to shave? Are you high?

/miser
//refuse to pay for cable tv too


Well..the $27 is an initial cost.

After that, it drops to literally $0.25-$0.50 a month.

If you wanna get fancy, you can get some Pinaud's aftershave and shave talc.

/also refuses to pay for cable tv
 
2014-04-20 02:25:56 PM  

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]


I use those blades, but a different razor.  This is a hipster way of shaving now?  I had no idea.  I thought I was just getting a decent shave for a cheap price.  Razor was 45$ but will last a lifetime and the blades are like $5 for 25 of them.  Meh, guess I'm hipster now...
 
2014-04-20 02:26:14 PM  
 
2014-04-20 02:27:19 PM  
By now, everyone knows how razor companies make their money. They sell you cheap razor handles, then burn you later with expensive cartridge refills.

Its the same with computer printers. They sell the printer dirt cheap, the cable to hook it up to your computer is not included, and its like 35 bucks. And the ink apparently, comes from some dangerous hot flowing magma mile deep cave with hungry cannibals because that shiat is more pricey than a divorce from a gold digger.
 
2014-04-20 02:27:39 PM  
FizixJunkee
enry: Dollar Shave Club FTW.
Do they have options for us womenfolk? I hate disposable razors, but the only other option seems to be the one they mention in the article: cheap razor handles (~$7) with $20 refills.


At one point Gillette women's blades that fit men's handles were cheaper, so I used them. The blades were a shade of light blue instead of black. They were sensor blades.

If you insist on going with the color coded supplies made for women, I hear Bic has pens for women as well.

Link
 
2014-04-20 02:31:53 PM  
I don't shave.  I don't want to face that.

Early morning.  Getting ready for work after another night of insomnia.  Staring at myself in a mirror with a razor in my hand.  One has some big decisions to make...
 
2014-04-20 02:33:55 PM  

FizixJunkee: enry: Dollar Shave Club FTW.

Do they have options for us womenfolk?  I hate disposable razors, but the only other option seems to be the one they mention in the article: cheap razor handles (~$7) with $20 refills.


Maybe the executive? My wife sticks with the Venus.
 
2014-04-20 02:35:26 PM  
I never shave my whiskers
From off of my horny hide
I just drive them in with a hammer
And bite them off inside
 
2014-04-20 02:35:34 PM  

RoyBatty: A lot of people advocate classic safety razors with a badger brush and various creams, but what most forget is the pyramid that allows the finest molecular straight edge, critical for that extra smooth shave.

[i.imgur.com image 219x225]


Thanks for reminding me of that, and of how oooooold I am.
 
2014-04-20 02:37:56 PM  
my kit:

Merkur safety razor

Personna blades ($13 for 100) made in the USA! used feathers for a while, but these shave me just as well for a lot cheaper. I usually do a new blade every week, so this is 2 years' supply!

Taylor of Old Bond Street shaving cream is best shaving cream.
 
2014-04-20 02:37:57 PM  
Daily shaving has been with us for a century that started with needing a sealing surface for gas masks. Are we still at threat for gas attacks, or the need for such masks? Do away with the razor like we have the wristwatch and get over the first world war.
 
2014-04-20 02:40:12 PM  

SBinRR: Hell, I can't tell you what name brand I use.  It's the disposable blue ones with a moisture strip.  My wife buys them in the bulk size at the warehouse store once a year.

Damn things work just fine, and I'm a daily shaver.


Yes.

Got a bag of like fifty or some gawdawful number of disposable razors for around ten dollars at Costco. I go through one every couple months; I don't shave but every three or four days.

I won't need to buy razors again until 2020 or so.
 
2014-04-20 02:42:02 PM  
I find the Fusion Proglide gives me a close shave in minimal time and the cartridges last me about six weeks each. Don't care about how manly my shave is at six am since I look good with my easy shave.
 
2014-04-20 02:43:01 PM  

LazyMedia: FormlessOne: What. The. Fark?
Honestly, Gillette, if I didn't know any better, I'd almost assume that you were pulling this kind of shiat specifically to drive people away from such silly-ass products. Even The Onion can't mock you any more than you mock yourselves, and that's saying something.

Gig103: Even better than Dollar Shave Club is buying a DE safety razor. They're $30 or less online, and blades go from $0.08-$0.30 each if you buy in bulk. The shave is closer than a cartridge, too, in my experience.

Cannot be stated strongly enough. I use a Merkur Classic, and I buy Astra Superior Platinum blades in boxes of 100. About 10 cents or so a blade, each of which lasts for about a week of daily wet shaves. Gillette's ridiculous pricing, and the industry's assiduous greed in chasing those prices, drove me back to DE safety razors, and I haven't regretted it.

If you're worried about disposal, here's a simple solution. Buy something in a metal can with a resealable plastic cover - I prefer wasabi peas. Once empty, cut a rectangular slit in the top of the cover, and you have a recyclable, metal container that you can drop into a recycle bin once it's full. Keep it under your sink, change your blade once a week, and you're good to go. Takes a couple of years to fill one can.

Or go the real old-timey route and cut a slit in the back of your metal medicine cabinet. Most of the old houses I lived in after college had those, with the slit labeled for razor disposal. After a few decades, there's probably a huge pile of rusting razor blades in the wall cavity.


I was going to say this, and yes, I helped demolish a bathroom in a house built in the 50's. There were a lot of razors in the wall... possibly numbering in the thousands. 

I heard Clark Howard recommend a razor that lasts a LONG time. Does anyone know what it was? I just caught a little bit of it, was it the dollar shave club? At the moment, I'm using a plug-in trimmer to shave... it gets it close enough and will probably last forever. I'm not a fan of electric shavers that rip hairs out.
 
2014-04-20 02:44:46 PM  

JuggleGeek: This "article" is just an add for http://www.dorcousa.com/  which is even linked in the article.

I read it, mostly thinking "This is stupid, you can buy cheap double bladed disposables for very little".  At the end, I was curious about the site they were trying to get people to buy razors from, so I clicked.  This is what I got.  I thought it was funny that the first thing on their front page was for a six bladed razor - one of the stupid things the article was whining about.

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World's first six bladed razor? These has been on the shelves of the my grocery store for a couples years now.
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