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2014-04-20 01:20:30 PM  

gingerjet: So the articles entire premise is that consumer will buy a new product?  Or not? I can't really tell what the point of the article except to biatch.


The point of the article was in the sponsored link to DORCO at the end of the article.

The author says:

1) Gillette has a new process that Gillette claims will make your shave even closer than before
2) The author doesn't provide any metrics one way or the other
3) The author doesn't think the new blades will do what Gillette claims
4) The author has no idea really if the new blades will do what Gillette claims
5) The author thinks all of that is over, OVER, and recommends DORCO.

Literally, the author makes a claim about Gillette's new product not being effective, and not being worth what they ask for it but apart from his saying so, he provides no evidence that the new product is not effective.

It could very well be that in terms of closeness and perceptibility of that closeness, the new Gillette blade is a breakthrough.

We'd never know that from the author's article.

We just get the link to DORCO.
 
2014-04-20 01:21:49 PM  

LazyMedia: Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?

Because most of us a) want our face to actually be smooth after shaving b) don't like the sensation of having the hairs pulled out by scalding hot steel whirligigs.


Totally agree. I've a coarse, dark, thick beard with pale skin, and my beard runs right up to the points of my cheekbones, just under my eyes. Balding Wookiee, basically. So, scouring my face with a metal grill or mesh, only to be left with untouchable five-o'clock shadow, wasn't my favorite experience, either. I've tried at least four different electric shavers in the last two decades, and all of them were useless. I'd irritate the hell out of my neck for an uneven, stubbly result, and I couldn't adequately shave under my nose or behind my jawline.
 
2014-04-20 01:22:02 PM  
Obligatory:
 
2014-04-20 01:22:16 PM  
This article sucks.  Jesus.

Yes, Dollar Shave and other alternative razor plans are cheaper and probably better.  Yes, a majority of Americans (myself included) are going to stick with being ripped off by Gillette.

This sounds like a paper written by an MBA student.  "Gillette is everything wrong with America because they are not innovationing to synergize their utility" etc etc.
 
2014-04-20 01:22:23 PM  
It can be easily fixed if dummies quit buying into the 16-bladed gilette nonsense.

Van Der Hagen makes EXCELLENT shave soaps for less then $5...and they work better than ANY goop from a can as far as comfortable shaving goes.

A boar-hair shave brush (dont buy into the expensive badger-hair nonsense...i have both and they work exactly the same...but the boar-hsir brushes are about $5 as opposed to $30-up) and any shallow-ish mug to build lather.

Double-edge safety razors are a steal, and you do NOT have to pay $85 for an antique Parker safety razor.

Traditional shaving is muuuch better and FAR cheaper if you dont buy into the hipster d-bag bullshiat that surrounds it.
 
2014-04-20 01:22:29 PM  

DiamondDave: For all you people preaching Dollar Shave Club, you can buy the razors from the same place they do: www.dorcousa.com

DSC buys them from Dorco and repackages them. But then yourself for even cheaper.


Hahahaha. Dorco. ::snerk::
 
2014-04-20 01:23:19 PM  
Add more blades to a product that has too many already?
 
2014-04-20 01:23:25 PM  

sirgrim: This article is what's wrong with American journalism, so it's fitting.


New York Magazine, now with that marvel of American ingenuity, pop-up ads.
 
2014-04-20 01:23:52 PM  
FormlessOne: Cannot be stated strongly enough. I use a Merkur Classic, and I buy Astra Superior Platinum blades in boxes of 100. About 10 cents or so a blade, each of which lasts for about a week of daily wet shaves. Gillette's ridiculous pricing, and the industry's assiduous greed in chasing those prices, drove me back to DE safety razors, and I haven't regretted it.

I'm right there with you. Went to a DE safety razor about three years ago and never looked back.
Even dollar shave club seems expensive in comparison.
 
2014-04-20 01:24:19 PM  
Once I hit the Mach 3 Turbo, I stopped.  The AAA lasts forever and the vibrating shave is so much better than a regular razor.  I did try a Shick Quattro with a single blade on the back side - good for trim-ups.

It's your face.  It grows hair. And Stanley Cup playoff season is about the worst time to market a new razor other than that November beard thing.
 
2014-04-20 01:24:48 PM  
A lot of people advocate classic safety razors with a badger brush and various creams, but what most forget is the pyramid that allows the finest molecular straight edge, critical for that extra smooth shave.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-20 01:26:04 PM  
 
2014-04-20 01:27:41 PM  

Johnny Texas: So Fark even has shaving snobs?



Eventually, there will be a cascade of poseurs who go on and on with obscure Tom Snyder-esque references to decrepit family-run barbershops located in medium to large cities on the eastern seaboard of the US.


/ all barbecue is pretty much the same
// is there any real difference between can, bottle, or beer on tap?
 
2014-04-20 01:29:21 PM  
Dollar Store, six for a buck, works like a charm.
 
2014-04-20 01:29:38 PM  

FormlessOne: each of which lasts for about a week of daily wet shaves


Jesus Christ - what are you, a Sicilian Yeti? I change blades about every three months, but I'm a Teuton.
 
2014-04-20 01:31:06 PM  

Johnny Texas: So Fark even has shaving snobs?


Hipsters fark lots of stuff up.

You can get a good shave for much less money if you buy into their shiat.
 
2014-04-20 01:31:32 PM  

been shaving with one of these for about 10 years.  never needed replacement.  had it sharpened once.


www.maggardrazors.com


suck it hipsters.

 
2014-04-20 01:32:29 PM  

syrynxx: Once I hit the Mach 3 Turbo, I stopped.  The AAA lasts forever and the vibrating shave is so much better than a regular razor.  I did try a Shick Quattro with a single blade on the back side - good for trim-ups.

It's your face.  It grows hair. And Stanley Cup playoff season is about the worst time to market a new razor other than that November beard thing.


Here's something for you to think about... if a single blade is good for "trim-ups", why do you need more blades on the other side to shave with in the first place?
 
2014-04-20 01:32:39 PM  
Correction:

If you DONT buy into their shiat.

Like: badger brushes vs boar brushes. They both work exactly the same...but hipsters buy badger bc its more expensive.
 
2014-04-20 01:32:51 PM  

Gig103: Even better than Dollar Shave Club is buying a DE safety razor. They're $30 or less online, and blades go from $0.08-$0.30 each if you buy in bulk. The shave is closer than a cartridge, too, in my experience.


This... been doing this for a while now and I am still living off of my original purchase of feather and persona blades 5 years later with about half still left....   It makes dollar shave club look expensive.

/shave just 2 or 3 times per week...
 
2014-04-20 01:33:10 PM  
Tried Dollar Shave Club. After the first week my face looked like I'd been in a fight with a cat with sharp claws. I was cut, nicked and sliced. Sadly back to the old expensive Gillette blades
 
2014-04-20 01:33:27 PM  
I'm still waiting for something that looks like a pencil sharpener where I can just stick my face in a handy wall-mounted unit and just crank the handle (mine would be manual, not electric, because I'm old school).
 
2014-04-20 01:33:56 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Johnny Texas: So Fark even has shaving snobs?

Hipsters fark lots of stuff up.

You can get a good shave for much less money if you buy into their shiat.


Reading this thread hipsters are simultaneously shaving with hand edged antique razors and growing beards like Billy Gibbons.

/Fark.com, where hipster hate consumes itself like ouroboros
 
2014-04-20 01:34:15 PM  
Real men use nukes
 
2014-04-20 01:34:23 PM  
Bought a Dorco handle and a box of cartridges (the 4-blade ones) in February and that was enough to get free shipping. 24 cartridges is more than a year's supply for me, all for $30.

They work great and when buying direct I'm not a Dollar Shave Club revenue stream. I like that.

Badger hair brush, mug and soap. Yes, badger hair. My old boar's hair brush didn't hold the right amount of water to make good lather. The badger hair brush worked much better.
 
2014-04-20 01:34:53 PM  
This "article" is just an add for http://www.dorcousa.com/  which is even linked in the article.

I read it, mostly thinking "This is stupid, you can buy cheap double bladed disposables for very little".  At the end, I was curious about the site they were trying to get people to buy razors from, so I clicked.  This is what I got.  I thought it was funny that the first thing on their front page was for a six bladed razor - one of the stupid things the article was whining about.

i1005.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-20 01:35:14 PM  

ccudmore: Tried Dollar Shave Club. After the first week my face looked like I'd been in a fight with a cat with sharp claws. I was cut, nicked and sliced. Sadly back to the old expensive Gillette blades


Then you did it wrong.

You dont use pressure with a safety razor like a cartridge.
 
2014-04-20 01:35:16 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: Razors are for women. A man's face should look like a cross between a Viking and a Dwarf.


Coffee. Computer screen. You ass.
 
2014-04-20 01:35:42 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: the ProGlide FlexBall

Well, the name definitely screams, 'you can shave your nuts with this.'


add taint, anus and butt crack; and you are set!  Plus, help the lady friend do all her sweet places... oh wait, I don't have a lady friend, and am as hairy as if a wookie mated with a snuffleupagus...
 
2014-04-20 01:37:06 PM  

whither_apophis: The more you eat the more you fart: Johnny Texas: So Fark even has shaving snobs?

Hipsters fark lots of stuff up.

You can get a good shave for much less money if you buy into their shiat.

Reading this thread hipsters are simultaneously shaving with hand edged antique razors and growing beards like Billy Gibbons.

/Fark.com, where hipster hate consumes itself like ouroboros


I lol'd
 
2014-04-20 01:37:58 PM  
Don't link to paywall sites, imbecile.
 
2014-04-20 01:38:09 PM  

Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?


Because a few of us don't particularly enjoy looking like hobos after we shave.
 
2014-04-20 01:39:40 PM  

Rent Party: I can buy a bag of twin blade disposable razors for about $.50 a piece, and each one will last me a month or so.


That's what I do.  I'm not really sure what they cost because I bought a cheap bag of them a year or more ago and I'm still working my way through those.  I'm guessing there were $20 in the bag and it was in the $5 to $10 range.
 
2014-04-20 01:39:41 PM  

axeeugene: Double-edged safety razor convert here. I never did spend much on the disposables before, opting for whatever the cheapest option was, but after I bought a couple of really nice, heavy-duty antique razor handles for about $8 each and 100+ blades for about $15, I was sold. I don't think I'll spend another dime on razor hardware for the next two years at the frequency with which I shave, and although the process is a little more time-consuming and the risk of nicking is a bit higher, I've found the whole experience of shaving this way has become more pleasurable.

Telling the companies in the obscene cartridge racket to fark off is just an added bonus.


I made the same leap 3 years ago. I think I have only nicked myself twice in 3 years, and I never get razor burn. Multi-blade razors just made my face raw. The DE safety razor just plain works. I can use the same razor blade for 2 weeks (longer now that I have a beard and have less coverage). I bought a 100-pack of razors, the razor itself, along with a stand, badger brush, and a supply of Proraso shaving soap for a bit less than $100. Those razors will probably last 5 more years, so over the course of 8 years, we're talking about $1 a month to shave, maybe a bit more with shaving soap factored in. The dual-blade disposables I used before were about $8 a pack, and I used a pack a month. That's $768 in razors over the same 8-year time period without counting shaving cream.
 
2014-04-20 01:39:45 PM  
If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

www.westcoastshaving.comwww.shavingstuff.com
 
2014-04-20 01:40:38 PM  

syrynxx: Once I hit the Mach 3 Turbo, I stopped.  The AAA lasts forever and the vibrating shave is so much better than a regular razor.  I did try a Shick Quattro with a single blade on the back side - good for trim-ups.

It's your face.  It grows hair. And Stanley Cup playoff season is about the worst time to market a new razor other than that November beard thing.


I hate to break it to ice hockey fans, but nobody actually cares about your sport outside Canada and the northern U.S. tier. FIELD hockey has more fans on a global basis. Razor makers do not need to take the NHL playoffs into account; only 5 percent of Americans list it as their favorite sport.
 
2014-04-20 01:41:40 PM  
Learn to shave at the end of a hot shower, with just a little bar soap lathered up. The whiskers are nice and soft by then. Neaten up the sideburns when you get out.

I prefer a Gillette Extreme 3 - they last up to 3 weeks for me. Oh - be sure to clean out the whiskers from between the blades and then dry it out.
 
2014-04-20 01:43:03 PM  
Well being former military, i have dabbled in using different brands and types of razors. Single blade disposables to three blade, then tried 5 blade. After an entire 7 month tour in Iraq using single blade razors i came back and discovered the original Gillette fusion 5 blade. The difference was amazing, and quite noticable. Haven't tried anything beyond that, and now I'm content with my beard so I'm saving a fortune in shaving products.
 
2014-04-20 01:45:06 PM  

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly


Typical hispter crap.
 
2014-04-20 01:46:15 PM  
 
2014-04-20 01:47:02 PM  

change1211: Or just use an electric razor, they're far less terrible to use.


Yea I tried electric ones. Problem is that no mater how good they are, I always ended up with 5:00 shadow by noon after shaving at 4:30 am. Being a marine at the time it was a bad call. Used the Gillette fusion and stuck with that for 6 years and never had an issue with getting my ass chewed for having a crappy shave lol.
 
2014-04-20 01:47:31 PM  

SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]


This.

And this:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-20 01:49:59 PM  

Mad Scientist: SeaMonkey311: If you ain't shaving with these then you're not shaving properly

[www.westcoastshaving.com image 300x300][www.shavingstuff.com image 480x359]

This.

And this:


Can hipsters do NOTHING without going waay overboard??

You gotta turn something simple like shaving into a $200 ritual to feel manly?
 
2014-04-20 01:51:12 PM  
I don't think it's what wrong with the American razor industry, it's more indicative of what's wrong with American business. You have to keep innovating, however absurd the innovations are, in an attempt to provide ever-increasing rates of return to investors.

There was a time when you were considered a success in business by making a quality product that people needed and keeping your customers satisfied. Apparently that's not enough any more.
 
2014-04-20 01:51:43 PM  
Cheap-ish twin blade, lube strip, pivot head razors are what I use. Most days I just use the electric  razor, but the blade still gets a closer, smoother shave.

This new one looks like a blade on a gimbal. It's a good idea. Don't be passed at innovation. It's an improvement. Whether or not it's a necessary or wanted improvement doesn't diminish that. Be pissed at the greedy business side of this industry.

It's like the Dyson vacuum cleaners. They do work a little better than the old tech, but probably not enough to justify the price. So look at it, appreciate the design, and continue on with your life to go buy whatever else suits your overall needs better.
 
2014-04-20 01:52:58 PM  

LazyMedia: Rhypskallion: I use a rechargeable electric razor, that was probably $50-$80 two years ago and still works great.    Why is there a blade industry at all anymore?

Because most of us a) want our face to actually be smooth after shaving b) don't like the sensation of having the hairs pulled out by scalding hot steel whirligigs.


Not to mention they simply don't work for some people.
 
2014-04-20 01:54:03 PM  
Double edge blades my sons and I have converted. Merkur, muhle razors, feather blades, badger shave brush, proraso shave soap. Be a man. All on amazon. Derby blades are good too. Feathers take a while to ship.
 
2014-04-20 01:54:13 PM  

RoyBatty: A lot of people advocate classic safety razors with a badger brush and various creams, but what most forget is the pyramid that allows the finest molecular straight edge, critical for that extra smooth shave.

[i.imgur.com image 219x225]


That's old school right there.
 
2014-04-20 01:55:24 PM  

Road Rash: Learn to shave at the end of a hot shower, with just a little bar soap lathered up. The whiskers are nice and soft by then. Neaten up the sideburns when you get out.

I prefer a Gillette Extreme 3 - they last up to 3 weeks for me. Oh - be sure to clean out the whiskers from between the blades and then dry it out.



This is one of the things that drove me away from cartridge razors.... constant snagging of hairs in between the blades (ouch), and constantly clogging(pain in the ass)...
 
2014-04-20 01:56:20 PM  

zarker: AliceBToklasLives: Voiceofreason01: welp, time to bust out the strait razor

and shred my face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1T93rJ9p-s) (NSFW and violent link)

change1211: Or just use an electric razor, they're far less terrible to use.

and look like a bum

That video is blocked in my country something something copyright grounds. Was it some kind of advertising or was it a review? I wanted to see some gore, man


That sucks.  Look up "The Big Shave" by Martin Scorsese.  You will not be disappointed.

/yeah the title kinda gives everything away
 
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