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(NYPost)   Don't you hate it when you're vacationing in Puerto Rico and your child tries Jif peanut butter for the first time and likes it more than the organic peanut butter you get at Whole Foods so you lie to him and say you can only get Jif in Puerto Rico?   (nypost.com) divider line 207
    More: Silly, Jif, whole foods, Puerto Rico, dietary habits, helicopter parenting, Julie Gunlock  
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2014-04-20 03:10:12 AM
Going out on a limb to say it was the sugar that tipped it in
 
2014-04-20 07:22:51 AM
You just need to get your kids to like stuff that's less crappy. My daughter rarely goes to McDonalds but we do take her to 99, Friendly's (harder to do now), Five Guys...
 
2014-04-20 07:24:18 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-20 08:04:00 AM
We buy organic milk, eggs, and (usually) chicken. But only to try to avoid the hormones, and kind of un-support the use of hormones and antibiotics in farming, not because it's "better."

We also have tried to get away from HFCS sweetened food products where we can.

But yeah, FTA:  The organic-food industry is thrilled by this attitude. But let's be clear. Organic food does not necessarily mean better. It's a term that's been co-opted and manipulated into a billion-dollar industry by some of the biggest food companies in America.
 
2014-04-20 08:30:39 AM
The best part about jiff is that they remove all the peanut oil and sell that separately. They do replace it with much cheaper corn oil.
 
2014-04-20 08:42:52 AM
I thought the headline would end with some sort of "and he turned out to have peanut allergies and you can't even find a doctor in those 3rd world countries."
 
2014-04-20 08:47:34 AM
There are advantages to organic production. A lot of our food is grown in developing countries where conditions are such that agrochemicals are misused in ways that poison farmers and villagers. I've seen terrible cases of planes spraying right across populated areas to more subtle instances of people applying the chemicals without proper gear and bringing residues on their clothes to their home, exposing their families. The benefit of helping to protect these people is enough for me to pay a little extra at the market (although I don't exclusively eat organic food.)

But I guess marketing organic produce by telling people that it makes the lives of others better is not as effective as telling them lies about how it makes *their* lives better.
 
2014-04-20 08:57:51 AM
Who the hell cares?
 
2014-04-20 08:59:45 AM
I try to buy organic and healthy food when I can. If not, its not the end of the world.
 
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2014-04-20 09:34:16 AM
Which brand would George Washington Carver prefer?
 
2014-04-20 09:35:11 AM
I read that in Eric Bolling's voice. If people want to eat organic, who the hell cares? It's not your money, or your problem.
 
2014-04-20 09:37:15 AM
When I was a kid my mom tried replacing my Peter Pan Smooth with a crunchy, unspreadable, separated oil concoction.  It did not go well.
 
2014-04-20 09:37:33 AM

vernonFL: I try to buy organic and healthy food when I can. If not, its not the end of the world.


It's not necessarily healthier, guaranteed to be more expensive though...
 
2014-04-20 09:38:01 AM
Terrible parenting. One, because this "organic" foods thing is nothing but a way to get people to pay out the ass for the same stuff basically. And two, why lie? Just tell him: "sorry son, we are stuck up pompous arrogant people who are better then everyone else because we eat organic everything. I know jif tasted awesome but since its not organic you can neve ever ever eat it again."
 
2014-04-20 09:38:42 AM
Missing the point entirely. It's not the non-organic ingredients that make Jif "better" (personally I find it gross, but I didn't have it until I was an adult, so your child's mileage may vary), it's the high fructose corn syrup.

Don't care much about organic, but I do avoid all the sugar-added foods. They're what make you fat.
 
2014-04-20 09:39:15 AM

enthralledgeishagirl: Going out on a limb to say it was the sugar that tipped it in


Not to mention the trans fats.
 
2014-04-20 09:40:10 AM
That's because Jif has a bunch of sugar in it.

But hey here's so more amazing news...kids like soda better than water. Guess we better let them drink soda and not tell them they can't have it. Or just realize kids are morons and don't know what's good for them, that's what makes them kids.
 
2014-04-20 09:41:17 AM
A mom in Washington tells me that she was unable to participate in a number of nanny-share agreements she looked into because the other parents were so crazy about not having their children come into contact with anything non-organic. One mother she met was convinced her child's ADD became worse when he was exposed to non-organic food. A stray Goldfish or Cheerio might set up off.

It's like turning your child into a time bomb that's set to go off in college.
 
2014-04-20 09:41:19 AM
Ha.

A fool and his money...
 
2014-04-20 09:43:34 AM

js34603: That's because Jif has a bunch of sugar in it.

But hey here's so more amazing news...kids like soda better than water. Guess we better let them drink soda and not tell them they can't have it. Or just realize kids are morons and don't know what's good for them, that's what makes them kids.


I'm sorry, you can only get this strangely delicious "soda pop" in Puerto Rico. Now drink your free-range organic broccoli juice.
 
2014-04-20 09:45:10 AM

Unobtanium: We buy organic milk, eggs, and (usually) chicken. But only to try to avoid the hormones, and kind of un-support the use of hormones and antibiotics in farming, not because it's "better."

We also have tried to get away from HFCS sweetened food products where we can.

But yeah, FTA:  The organic-food industry is thrilled by this attitude. But let's be clear. Organic food does not necessarily mean better. It's a term that's been co-opted and manipulated into a billion-dollar industry by some of the biggest food companies in America.


Not really on the "organic foods" train, but organic milk tastes WAY better than conventional milk does, IMHO.

/ possibly because it's relatively local (in my case), and hasn't been stored for very long...
// in this case, I'm happy to pay more $$$ for a superior product
 
2014-04-20 09:45:57 AM

js34603: That's because Jif has a bunch of sugar in it.

But hey here's so more amazing news...kids like soda better than water. Guess we better let them drink soda and not tell them they can't have it. Or just realize kids are morons and don't know what's good for them, that's what makes them kids.


I agree, but why lie to a kid? Dont parents have the balls to tell kids the truth these days? Instead of "oh sorry, they only make it in Puerto Rico," you could simply say "because jif is bad for you."
 
2014-04-20 09:48:23 AM
I make sure my kid eats only those foods infused with sugar and bacon flavors.
 
2014-04-20 09:50:18 AM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-04-20 09:50:53 AM
Do men do any of this crap? Or are they just cowed into submission to the line by the mad harpies they foolishly married and shot seed into?
 
2014-04-20 09:53:15 AM
Choosy mothers farking choose Jif.
 
2014-04-20 09:53:35 AM
A jar of dry-roasted peanuts plus a food processor = peanut butter in about ten minutes.

You can then add your own sugar to emulsify the oils, if you (or your child) so prefer.

And you don't have to pay Whole Foods for the pleasure.
 
2014-04-20 09:54:07 AM

perigee: Do men do any of this crap? Or are they just cowed into submission to the line by the mad harpies they foolishly married and shot seed into?


Yeah, pretty much this.

/won't chop off the husband's dangly bits
//STOP WOMEN SERIOUSLY
 
2014-04-20 09:54:08 AM
I started to read that and was kinda interested, and then I realized that this is the under-the-radar "granola liberals suck" article that the NY Post/Murdoch is famous for and then I got all *shakes fist*-y.
 
2014-04-20 09:55:08 AM
Natural peanut butter without a bunch of extra ingredients and sugar doesn't have to be organic. This is my favorite peanut better:
i411.photobucket.com
They also have an organic version, but this one is great. Soooo damn creamy. Only ingredient: peanuts.
 
2014-04-20 09:56:11 AM

jayhawk88: A mom in Washington tells me that she was unable to participate in a number of nanny-share agreements she looked into because the other parents were so crazy about not having their children come into contact with anything non-organic. One mother she met was convinced her child's ADD became worse when he was exposed to non-organic food. A stray Goldfish or Cheerio might set up off.

It's like turning your child into a time bomb that's set to go off in college.


Yup. That kid is going to lose his/her mind once out in the real world, assuming the trust fund doesn't keep them inside a bubble.
 
2014-04-20 09:56:38 AM
I'm sure lying to your child is preferable.  I mean, it's not like the kid is ever going to see a Jif jar in the store or in an advertisement.

Way to go stupid twunt, your child can now justifiably question anything else that comes out of your mouth.
 
2014-04-20 09:58:45 AM
Because they didn't want him having ice cream, some overly health conscious friends of mine told their son that the ice cream truck was just "the music truck that drives around and plays music in neighborhoods with kids".

It is the saddest thing I have ever heard to this day. The Rwandan Genocide has nothing on this story.
 
2014-04-20 09:58:56 AM
Food Nazis. I hate food Nazis. First they came for my sugar. Then they came for my meat. Where does it end?
 
2014-04-20 10:01:21 AM
stupid article is stupid. Also, I fully include the NY Post as being a founding member of "the Culture of Alarmism" so to hear them complain about it is priceless.
 
2014-04-20 10:01:55 AM
The conversation did not have the happening and was the made up thing for the story of this.
 
2014-04-20 10:02:12 AM
Vacations in Puerto Rico??  Who does that?  Third world craphole.
 
2014-04-20 10:02:35 AM

HiFiGuy: I started to read that and was kinda interested, and then I realized that this is the under-the-radar "granola liberals suck" article that the NY Post/Murdoch is famous for and then I got all *shakes fist*-y.


Plus" fifty years of reaserch" quoted in the article.
Keep shoving your had up your ass, less of this liberal noise to listen to.
 
2014-04-20 10:03:24 AM
PluckYew:
Way to go stupid twunt, your child can now justifiably question anything else that comes out of your mouth.

Yep, this.
 
2014-04-20 10:03:43 AM

jayhawk88: One mother she met was convinced her child's ADD became worse when he was exposed to non-organic food


This is what's wrong...THIS right here.

That self-righteous, know-nothing, helicopter parenting. Coddling your kids like that is terrible.
 
2014-04-20 10:06:52 AM

Jean Claude Van Darn: Because they didn't want him having ice cream, some overly health conscious friends of mine told their son that the ice cream truck was just "the music truck that drives around and plays music in neighborhoods with kids".

It is the saddest thing I have ever heard to this day. The Rwandan Genocide has nothing on this story.


A friend of mine told his kids that the ice cream truck only plays music when it has run out of ice cream.
 
2014-04-20 10:07:19 AM

Jean Claude Van Darn: Because they didn't want him having ice cream, some overly health conscious friends of mine told their son that the ice cream truck was just "the music truck that drives around and plays music in neighborhoods with kids".

It is the saddest thing I have ever heard to this day. The Rwandan Genocide has nothing on this story.


My kids called it the music truck on their own up until last year. I did nothing whatsoever to correct them on what kind of truck that was. Not because I don't want them to have ice cream, I just don't want to be harassed about getting some every time it comes by. Am I an awful person?
 
2014-04-20 10:10:23 AM
Better to buy LOCAL than to buy "organic." Locally-produced foods are acclimated to the immediate environment, and consumption of local produce has been proven to reduce seasonal allergic reactions. They're also ten times as fresh, have less of a chance of being coated or pumped full of preservatives, and unless you're trying to buy tropical fruit 90% of the produce we buy on average can be grown locally for the majority of the year.

/Eat things that breathe your air, drink your water.
//Who'd-a thought?
///Don't want no damn Mexican apples when I have a small grove in my own backyard
 
2014-04-20 10:12:49 AM
I wonder how parents who lie like this end up dealing with the fallout later.  I mean, you can only fool kids for so long.  This isn't telling them there is a Santa Claus (because why would kids complain about getting presents) or the Tooth Fairy (hello, free money).

Tell the kid the truth, deal with the crying, and move on.  Or, you can stop being so anal and afraid of something that isn't (reading some of this gave me a serious anti-vax vibe), and let these kids have something that is not perfectly healthy from time to time.
 
2014-04-20 10:14:14 AM
There are lots of things I wouldn't mind getting the organic version, if it's not way more expensive. But organic peanut butter is just nasty.
 
2014-04-20 10:15:48 AM
Jif sucks.
Skippy (the adult peanut butter) is great.
 
2014-04-20 10:17:50 AM
I love how a bunch of the early responders were sort of defending organics, even though there is not a shred of evidence that you can measure a difference between organics and non-organics. Peanut butter tastes better to most people with a little salt and sugar in it. As JerseyTim pointed out, you can buy peanut butter without anything added without having to resort to organics. I sometimes buy peanut butter without additives, but I usually end up adding salt.

Forbidden Doughnut: Not really on the "organic foods" train, but organic milk tastes WAY better than conventional milk does, IMHO.

/ possibly because it's relatively local (in my case), and hasn't been stored for very long...
// in this case, I'm happy to pay more $$$ for a superior product


Milk has been pasteurized (cooked) and homogenized. That makes it taste entirely different. If you buy milk locally you might be getting unpasteurized milk from certified non-TB cows. I used to work at a cannery, and guess what: tomatoes, greens or carrots tasted different after they were cooked and canned. This is not an effect of organics versus non-organics.

/bottom line--organics is a money grab.
 
2014-04-20 10:17:56 AM

buzzcut73: Jean Claude Van Darn: Because they didn't want him having ice cream, some overly health conscious friends of mine told their son that the ice cream truck was just "the music truck that drives around and plays music in neighborhoods with kids".

It is the saddest thing I have ever heard to this day. The Rwandan Genocide has nothing on this story.

My kids called it the music truck on their own up until last year. I did nothing whatsoever to correct them on what kind of truck that was. Not because I don't want them to have ice cream, I just don't want to be harassed about getting some every time it comes by. Am I an awful person?


Just tell them they play the music to let everyone know that they are out of ice cream
 
2014-04-20 10:18:23 AM
Maybe it's the "lying to kids" part, but something about this article reminded me of this unrelated CSB:
We used to live on Mackinaw Island (Michigan thing) and it's quite the Amish playground. Anyways, me and the boy child (he was about 3 at the time) we're sitting in the park waiting for Mrs Maelstrom0370 to get out of work. I'm sitting next to this Amish woman while boy child chases sea gulls. My mom (boy child's Doodah) had told him they were chickens. All birds were chickens to him at this point. I was laughing and we were talking about him chasing those chickens. He runs off and Amish woman looks over at me questioningly. I explain the chicken thing and she nods and says "Well, he's too young to understand the lie"
 
2014-04-20 10:19:26 AM
I read something about some woman's neighbor calling cps because she was poisoning her child. They took him from her no questions asked and returned him when nothing was wrong. Cps /then/ asked the neighbor why she would say such a thing, and she replied with "They feed him meat!"

We live in a world where it's preferable to feed children lies than perfectly safe food.
 
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