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(NYPost)   The homeless man who had his coffin-sized shanty inside Manhattan Bridge torn down by the NYPD on Thursday has found himself a new place to sleep at night, and he's lovin' it   (nypost.com) divider line 81
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2014-04-19 11:39:47 PM  
Article doesn't say which McDonalds, but I hope it's not the one by West 4th St station. What a horrendous place that is.
 
2014-04-20 12:40:11 AM  
FTFA:  The home was torn down Thursday by officers, who said it could collapse onto the bike lane.

Riiiiiiiiight.  *wink*
 
2014-04-20 01:17:14 AM  

FreakinB: Article doesn't say which McDonalds, but I hope it's not the one by West 4th St station. What a horrendous place that is.


Yeah, seriously. What a shiathole. It's like there's homeless people living in it.
 
2014-04-20 01:51:29 AM  
So the police dismantle the ramshackle sleeping area of a (seemingly illegal) Chinese immigrant who seems to have some mental health issues (just based on him up and leaving his family to live on the streets of NYC and the fact that they mentioned he has trouble finishing sentences) and they just set him loose to camp out in a McDonalds?

I agree that people shouldn't be living in the bridge, but neither should they be living in fast food restaurants.  There needs to be a bit more followup than 'hey, we threw out your bed' and a pat on the ass.
 
2014-04-20 01:51:34 AM  
i am sure he will be building a new home in a more secretive location.
 
2014-04-20 02:06:51 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So the police dismantle the ramshackle sleeping area of a (seemingly illegal) Chinese immigrant who seems to have some mental health issues (just based on him up and leaving his family to live on the streets of NYC and the fact that they mentioned he has trouble finishing sentences) and they just set him loose to camp out in a McDonalds?

I agree that people shouldn't be living in the bridge, but neither should they be living in fast food restaurants.  There needs to be a bit more followup than 'hey, we threw out your bed' and a pat on the ass.


My gawd! It's as if you have no respect at all for the sacred bootstraps.
 
2014-04-20 02:09:33 AM  
When will the militias arrive to defend his rights?
 
2014-04-20 02:10:22 AM  
So, is he here on an H1-B visa?
 
2014-04-20 02:10:35 AM  

beverly8: i am sure he will be building a new home in a more secretive location.


And once they are found, there will be more followup articles about it in here.
 
2014-04-20 02:11:15 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So the police dismantle the ramshackle sleeping area of a (seemingly illegal) Chinese immigrant who seems to have some mental health issues (just based on him up and leaving his family to live on the streets of NYC and the fact that they mentioned he has trouble finishing sentences) and they just set him loose to camp out in a McDonalds?

I agree that people shouldn't be living in the bridge, but neither should they be living in fast food restaurants.  There needs to be a bit more followup than 'hey, we threw out your bed' and a pat on the ass.



Reagan's Legacy: Homelessness in America
 
2014-04-20 02:12:41 AM  
What did he do to anyone?
 
2014-04-20 02:18:08 AM  

FlyingBacon: beverly8: i am sure he will be building a new home in a more secretive location.

And once they are found, there will be more followup articles about it in here.


ain't life grand?
 
2014-04-20 02:21:27 AM  

Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?


Didn't pay the rent.
 
2014-04-20 02:24:55 AM  

MechaPyx: Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?

Didn't pay the rent.


To be fair, it was too damn high.
 
2014-04-20 02:31:59 AM  

Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?


well for starters, he's Chinese.
 
2014-04-20 02:37:11 AM  

Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?


That's my thought. He's not hurting anyone being up there and made himself a decent shelter that's out of everyone's way. Why kick him out?
 
2014-04-20 02:41:46 AM  
He married, had kids and worked as livery van driver until, for reasons he wouldn't discuss, he left them behind and moved to the United States 17 years ago.

I always wonder about that. I remember reading views from people who'd rather hire an illegal immigrant than an ex-con.
 
2014-04-20 02:47:07 AM  

phrawgh: When will the militias arrive to defend his rights?


Before they find out he's not white.
 
2014-04-20 02:52:43 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-20 02:59:09 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So the police dismantle the ramshackle sleeping area of a (seemingly illegal) Chinese immigrant who seems to have some mental health issues (just based on him up and leaving his family to live on the streets of NYC and the fact that they mentioned he has trouble finishing sentences) and they just set him loose to camp out in a McDonalds?

I agree that people shouldn't be living in the bridge, but neither should they be living in fast food restaurants.  There needs to be a bit more followup than 'hey, we threw out your bed' and a pat on the ass.


They took him to a shelter. He promptly left there and states he doesn't like shelters. If he chooses not to avail himself of the services provided (and he's already left his family behind), what more do you think the police should have done?
 
2014-04-20 03:01:28 AM  
Yeah, but you let one guy build a shelter, and then...

urbanhonking.com
 
2014-04-20 03:10:36 AM  

IWood: Yeah, but you let one guy build a shelter, and then...

[urbanhonking.com image 550x344]



JESUS TIME!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op40ndRaaOY
 
2014-04-20 03:13:13 AM  
cops!  is there anything awesome they CAN'T do?

/kill the poor
//how dare they be?
 
2014-04-20 03:16:20 AM  

picturescrazy: He's not hurting anyone being up there and made himself a decent shelter that's out of everyone's way. Why kick him out?


Well sure, you could let this guy stay, but where do you stop?   There has to be a limit to the number of shanties we allow to be built within a bridge's super structure.

Forty's a good number.  Fifty or more would obviously be ridiculous.
 
2014-04-20 03:19:24 AM  
Ahh the American Dream...
 
2014-04-20 03:22:09 AM  

TomD9938: picturescrazy: He's not hurting anyone being up there and made himself a decent shelter that's out of everyone's way. Why kick him out?

Well sure, you could let this guy stay, but where do you stop?   There has to be a limit to the number of shanties we allow to be built within a bridge's super structure.

Forty's a good number.  Fifty or more would obviously be ridiculous.


Can we settle at 45? It's a bit much but gives the bridge some character.
 
2014-04-20 03:24:43 AM  

picturescrazy: TomD9938: picturescrazy: He's not hurting anyone being up there and made himself a decent shelter that's out of everyone's way. Why kick him out?

Well sure, you could let this guy stay, but where do you stop?   There has to be a limit to the number of shanties we allow to be built within a bridge's super structure.

Forty's a good number.  Fifty or more would obviously be ridiculous.

Can we settle at 45? It's a bit much but gives the bridge some character.


Sounds good.

/ they're going to need an HOA too...
 
2014-04-20 03:28:35 AM  

Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?


Trolling without a license?
 
2014-04-20 03:37:24 AM  
This is a simple liberal or conservative test.

If you think society is marginalizing him and not giving him the tools or chance to succeed and maybe there should be a social government-funded  program to help people in these special cases , you're liberal.

If you think many people go through tough circumstances and those that are self-reliant and willing to work hard and put up with difficult work if necessary is what's needed to get ahead in life, you're conservative.

/If you think both are true that's Integral thinking
 
2014-04-20 03:42:48 AM  

Tetrazphere: This is a simple liberal or conservative test.

If you think society is marginalizing him and not giving him the tools or chance to succeed and maybe there should be a social government-funded  program to help people in these special cases , you're liberal.

If you think many people go through tough circumstances and those that are self-reliant and willing to work hard and put up with difficult work if necessary is what's needed to get ahead in life, you're conservative.

/If you think both are true that's Integral thinking


And if I think both are a load of bullshiat?
 
2014-04-20 04:06:27 AM  
Isn't there a whole Chinese-American community in NYC? He's managed to alienate himself from them.

It's that he doesn't want to stick with a job. He only wants a little bit of space to drink beer and sleep, I could see him finding a benefactor with a closet to loan in exchange for some minor task, like getting Cheese Whiz.
 
2014-04-20 04:06:30 AM  
He sounds rather bootstrappy for a homeless guy.
 
2014-04-20 04:07:32 AM  
But he has preemptive rights. That cubby hole in the bridge wasn't being used for anything. He has the right to use it. He is a true patriot fighting for the rights of all Americans. We the people own that bridge, not the government. The police have no jurisdiction over sovereign bridge territory. I hope the militia guys don't hear about this government land grab, or blood will flow in the streets of Manhattan. It's all right there in the Constitution. The Bible told us this was going to happen.
 
2014-04-20 04:08:33 AM  
He looks like a Chinese Bill Murray.
 
2014-04-20 04:11:47 AM  

wildcardjack: Isn't there a whole Chinese-American community in NYC? He's managed to alienate himself from them.


I hear there is a whole African-american community in NYC as well, yet strangely, there is still homeless African Americans..
 
2014-04-20 04:19:12 AM  
It's not about bridge trespass at all. I just found out that Donald Trump's second cousin twice removed made a deal with Mayor Bloomburg to develop those bridge cubby holes into luxury studio apartments. It turns out that the squatter is an operative of a Chinese developer who planned to develop the bridge spaces as affordable housing until Trump's distant relative somehow persuaded Bloomburg to turn the contract over to him. Was there a bribe involved? Maybe a kickback promised? Some people might claim that. Turn on the lights and watch the cockroaches scatter! That's how the government operates these days. They keep taking away our freedoms. We the people need to rise up and take our country back.
 
2014-04-20 04:23:41 AM  

Mr_Crink: But he has preemptive rights. That cubby hole in the bridge wasn't being used for anything. He has the right to use it. He is a true patriot fighting for the rights of all Americans. We the people own that bridge, not the government. The police have no jurisdiction over sovereign bridge territory. I hope the militia guys don't hear about this government land grab, or blood will flow in the streets of Manhattan. It's all right there in the Constitution. The Bible told us this was going to happen.


Not sure if serious, but you know, if I owned that land - and by your argument I sort of do in a very small way, I wouldn't just want people camping out on it - at least not with my permission, especially since homeless people don't tend to be the most tidy of folks.
 
2014-04-20 04:41:23 AM  
FTA:  "I never worked my way up to wok chef because if you get too good at a certain job then the bosses don't want you anymore," he said.

I'm not sure what this guy's problem is, but I doubt that getting too good at menial jobs is it.  I'd feel sorry for the guy, but some people just can't be, or don't want to be helped.
 
2014-04-20 04:59:53 AM  

Carousel Beast: They took him to a shelter. He promptly left there and states he doesn't like shelters. If he chooses not to avail himself of the services provided (and he's already left his family behind), what more do you think the police should have done?


Homeless shelters are overcrowded, stinking, controlling, pits. It should be no surprise that many people choose the streets.

miniflea: I'm not sure what this guy's problem is, but I doubt that getting too good at menial jobs is it.  I'd feel sorry for the guy, but some people just can't be, or don't want to be helped.


Therefore, death?
 
2014-04-20 05:45:03 AM  

Mr_Crink: It's not about bridge trespass at all. I just found out that Donald Trump's second cousin twice removed made a deal with Mayor Bloomburg to develop those bridge cubby holes into luxury studio apartments. It turns out that the squatter is an operative of a Chinese developer who planned to develop the bridge spaces as affordable housing until Trump's distant relative somehow persuaded Bloomburg to turn the contract over to him. Was there a bribe involved? Maybe a kickback promised? Some people might claim that. Turn on the lights and watch the cockroaches scatter! That's how the government operates these days. They keep taking away our freedoms. We the people need to rise up and take our country back.


You should have started your post with:
"Fw:Fw:Fw
 
2014-04-20 05:52:16 AM  

log_jammin: wildcardjack: Isn't there a whole Chinese-American community in NYC? He's managed to alienate himself from them.

I hear there is a whole African-american community in NYC as well, yet strangely, there is still homeless African Americans..


Yeah, but the Asians are job creators.
 
2014-04-20 05:56:00 AM  

wildcardjack: log_jammin: wildcardjack: Isn't there a whole Chinese-American community in NYC? He's managed to alienate himself from them.

I hear there is a whole African-american community in NYC as well, yet strangely, there is still homeless African Americans..

Yeah, but the Asians are job creators.


and are good at math
 
2014-04-20 06:07:06 AM  
Would be interesting to see what the guy's sleeping box looked like.  Insulated and heated with a beer storage area?  I wonder if he was pissing on the cars going by below his residence?.
 
2014-04-20 06:11:00 AM  
Sorry, pissing on the bike riders below
 
2014-04-20 06:13:07 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So the police dismantle the ramshackle sleeping area of a (seemingly illegal) Chinese immigrant who seems to have some mental health issues (just based on him up and leaving his family to live on the streets of NYC and the fact that they mentioned he has trouble finishing sentences) and they just set him loose to camp out in a McDonalds?

I agree that people shouldn't be living in the bridge, but neither should they be living in fast food restaurants.  There needs to be a bit more followup than 'hey, we threw out your bed' and a pat on the ass.


You sound like someone who has never talked to white people, let alone cops.
 
2014-04-20 06:17:24 AM  

Carousel Beast: They took him to a shelter. He promptly left there and states he doesn't like shelters. If he chooses not to avail himself of the services provided (and he's already left his family behind), what more do you think the police should have done?


Have you ever BEEN to a homeless shelter? He's safer on the streets. At least if he found somewhere to hide (which he did) he doesn't have to worry about getting shanked or raped in the middle of the night.
 
2014-04-20 06:24:26 AM  

johncb76006: Would be interesting to see what the guy's sleeping box looked like.


there's some pics in the article
 
2014-04-20 06:37:16 AM  
Send him to Waite Hill, Ohio, he will be welcomed with open arms.
 
2014-04-20 06:47:30 AM  
FTFA: The Chinese immigrant was first taken to Bellevue's homeless shelter after cops raided his bridge loft on Thursday - but he left to spend the night at McDonald's.

It has been many, many moons since I was at the Bellevue Intake Center/Shelter. While it probably has changed, I am sure it has not been much for the better.

Essentially it is (or at least was) an initial intake center for new persons or persons returning to he shelter system. Due to that, you would get the entire range of homeless from people forced into the system to newly released ex-cons who had nowhere else to go. You get booted out in the AM with a bag lunch and cannot return until the early evening. The sleeping areas were like something out of the 1930s with peeling, overpainted walls where the paint was a quarter inch thick from all the over-painting. It is truly as scary as it looks from the outside.

Heck yeah McDs is a better place to go.
 
2014-04-20 07:22:17 AM  

johncb76006: Sorry, pissing on the bike riders below


No, just in their Cokes.
 
2014-04-20 07:33:52 AM  

RanDomino: miniflea: I'm not sure what this guy's problem is, but I doubt that getting too good at menial jobs is it.  I'd feel sorry for the guy, but some people just can't be, or don't want to be helped.

Therefore, death?


YOU there! Cake or Death?
/we're outta cake just fyi

Mr_Crink: They keep taking away our freedoms.


Not true! He's free. Free to go be homeless somewhere else. For God's sake he was living in a little shanty under a bridge! How much more un-American can you get? House with a white picket fence or gtfo. Next thing you know he'll be asking for something to eat or affordable healthcare. Probably both. At the same time! Does he have a million bucks? He could totally do that with a million bucks.
 
2014-04-20 07:50:01 AM  
 
2014-04-20 08:15:04 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: phrawgh: When will the militias arrive to defend his rights?

Before they find out he's not white.


Nor a landowner
 
2014-04-20 08:16:25 AM  

MechaPyx: YOU there! Cake or Death?
/we're outta cake just fyi


Cake, please. You can just owe it too me.
 
2014-04-20 08:28:38 AM  
Are there no prisons? And the Union workhouses, are they still in operation?
 
2014-04-20 08:32:32 AM  

Mr_Crink: It's not about bridge trespass at all. I just found out that Donald Trump's second cousin twice removed made a deal with Mayor Bloomburg to develop those bridge cubby holes into luxury studio apartments. It turns out that the squatter is an operative of a Chinese developer who planned to develop the bridge spaces as affordable housing until Trump's distant relative somehow persuaded Bloomburg to turn the contract over to him. Was there a bribe involved? Maybe a kickback promised? Some people might claim that. Turn on the lights and watch the cockroaches scatter! That's how the government operates these days. They keep taking away our freedoms. We the people need to rise up and take our country back.


It's even deeper than that. Joe Zhou worked for ENN Group, the ones doing the solar project in Clark Country, Nevada, when he was in China. He recommended against pursuing the project because of the impact it would have on ranchers like Clive Bundy. When Harry Reid heard about this he told the ENN Group to get rid of him. But he was related to on the the owners of ENN Group (2nd cousin I think), and so they won't do it. Reid called in Hillary Clinton to pressure them, and finally they worked out a deal where Obummer promised to not take any real action when the Chinese contested islands in the sea of Japan and they turned over Zhou to the CIA. We don't know what exactly they did with him yet, but we think he was in a FEMA camp for a while because his speech impediment is a commons side-effect of the memory wipes they do there. I've nearly got all the pieces together, and when I do this is going to bring down Obummer, Reid and Clinton in one fell swoop. I've got a website where you can help fund the research and break this story!!
 
2014-04-20 08:50:10 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Zasteva: Mr_Crink: It's not about bridge trespass at all. I just found out that Donald Trump's second cousin twice removed made a deal with Mayor Bloomburg to develop those bridge cubby holes into luxury studio apartments. It turns out that the squatter is an operative of a Chinese developer who planned to develop the bridge spaces as affordable housing until Trump's distant relative somehow persuaded Bloomburg to turn the contract over to him. Was there a bribe involved? Maybe a kickback promised? Some people might claim that. Turn on the lights and watch the cockroaches scatter! That's how the government operates these days. They keep taking away our freedoms. We the people need to rise up and take our country back.

It's even deeper than that. Joe Zhou worked for ENN Group, the ones doing the solar project in Clark Country, Nevada, when he was in China. He recommended against pursuing the project because of the impact it would have on ranchers like Clive Bundy. When Harry Reid heard about this he told the ENN Group to get rid of him. But he was related to on the the owners of ENN Group (2nd cousin I think), and so they won't do it. Reid called in Hillary Clinton to pressure them, and finally they worked out a deal where Obummer promised to not take any real action when the Chinese contested islands in the sea of Japan and they turned over Zhou to the CIA. We don't know what exactly they did with him yet, but we think he was in a FEMA camp for a while because his speech impediment is a commons side-effect of the memory wipes they do there. I've nearly got all the pieces together, and when I do this is going to bring down Obummer, Reid and Clinton in one fell swoop. I've got a website where you can help fund the research and break this story!!

you two are in direct competition with our resident Ninja. you two are doing well, it's a good start, but... hard work will eventually pay off in the end... keep up the good work, and after a few more digital years, you two may be Ninjas as well.


Nobody Ninjas like the PocketNinja.
 
2014-04-20 08:54:38 AM  

Tetrazphere: This is a simple liberal or conservative test.

If you think society is marginalizing him and not giving him the tools or chance to succeed and maybe there should be a social government-funded  program to help people in these special cases , you're liberal.

If you think many people go through tough circumstances and those that are self-reliant and willing to work hard and put up with difficult work if necessary is what's needed to get ahead in life, you're conservative.

/If you think both are true that's Integral thinking


What if I just think he's probably living exactly the way wants to and he has no intention of accepting help or working harder to live a more "normal" life?
 
2014-04-20 09:12:16 AM  

ModernLuddite: He looks like a Chinese Bill Murray.


He's certainly been living on the razor's edge. I just hope he finds another caddy shack to live in soon.
 
2014-04-20 09:41:09 AM  

Carousel Beast: They took him to a shelter. He promptly left there and states he doesn't like shelters.


Homeless shelters in big cities were gang-infested crack dens 20 years ago, I don't think they've changed much since.

OTOH the shelters here in Lexington KY are pretty nice but you have to be in Lexington KY. I'd rather be very poor here than NYC, but I'm weird.


If he chooses not to avail himself of the services provided (and he's already left his family behind), what more do you think the police should have done?

They should have left him alone in the first place.
 
2014-04-20 09:59:44 AM  
Congratulations, press! You guys alerted the casinos to the voucher deal this guy used to make a few bucks, making him completely penniless, than you alert the authorities about his clever home under bridge, causing the police to destroy it and throw out all of his belongings!!

What a wonderful bunch of people you reporters are!

Bonus: You get yet another story to write when all of your reporting causes the inevitable and predictable outcome!
 
2014-04-20 10:03:38 AM  
He's sleeping on a random red couch?
 
2014-04-20 10:09:23 AM  
Well you can't just let homeless people live in homes.

Then what would you call them? People just like you and me?
 
2014-04-20 10:09:39 AM  
thenypost.files.wordpress.com

He looks to be in good spirits.

/Praise the Lord!
 
2014-04-20 10:30:36 AM  

LesserEvil: Congratulations, press! You guys alerted the casinos to the voucher deal this guy used to make a few bucks, making him completely penniless, than you alert the authorities about his clever home under bridge, causing the police to destroy it and throw out all of his belongings!!

What a wonderful bunch of people you reporters are!

Bonus: You get yet another story to write when all of your reporting causes the inevitable and predictable outcome!


Hi, are you new to the world of news?

There's no moralistic ideology behind it. Just 'get the scoop'.

Next you'll tell me you expect that the government and the like should pay and take care of him.

Damn humans and their outrageous expectations...
 
2014-04-20 10:32:03 AM  

The One True TheDavid: They should have left him alone in the first place.


Yes, removing someone who may or may not have been the cause of a traffic problem in the future, living in unsafe conditions as it is, should be left alone, especially after being discovered, only to encourage more people to try the same thing.

Yes the police should DEFINITELY not be out their enforcing law and order.

Nope. Never that.
 
2014-04-20 11:08:45 AM  
How did someone who has difficulty completing sentences manage to go through the complex process of immigration?

Maybe someone back home was so glad to get rid of him, they filled all the paperwork out for him and drove him to the airport.

Maybe it was whoever maintains the bridges.
 
2014-04-20 11:15:53 AM  

log_jammin: wildcardjack: log_jammin: wildcardjack: Isn't there a whole Chinese-American community in NYC? He's managed to alienate himself from them.

I hear there is a whole African-american community in NYC as well, yet strangely, there is still homeless African Americans..

Yeah, but the Asians are job creators.

and are good at math


And horrible drivers.
 
2014-04-20 11:52:19 AM  
I'm glad this happened. It just proves that the NYPD have solved all other crimes, and have nothing better to do with their time.

/Why do the homeless hate our freedoms?
 
2014-04-20 11:55:09 AM  

Aces and Eights: How did someone who has difficulty completing sentences manage to go through the complex process of immigration?

Maybe someone back home was so glad to get rid of him, they filled all the paperwork out for him and drove him to the airport.

Maybe it was whoever maintains the bridges.


Sadly, I can see some members of my extended family being sent off like this...

/ that's probably how my ancestors would up in the US back in the 19th cent...
 
2014-04-20 12:59:08 PM  
So Zhou was out of bounds for staking out a piece of public property for his personal use?

If only he was a cattle rancher in Nevada.

Fox would have that bridge onscreen 24/7.
 
2014-04-20 01:22:08 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: I'm glad this happened. It just proves that the NYPD have solved all other crimes, and have nothing better to do with their time.

/Why do the homeless hate our freedoms?


Sorry, but this guy is a criminal. 
How dare he be poor in America and think he could just get away with it.
 
2014-04-20 01:31:23 PM  

rewind2846: Carousel Beast: They took him to a shelter. He promptly left there and states he doesn't like shelters. If he chooses not to avail himself of the services provided (and he's already left his family behind), what more do you think the police should have done?

Have you ever BEEN to a homeless shelter? He's safer on the streets. At least if he found somewhere to hide (which he did) he doesn't have to worry about getting shanked or raped in the middle of the night.


Yes, as a matter of fact, I support this one right here. Now, maybe in your "sophisticated and enlightened" cities they're shiatholes, but that's not true all over.
 
2014-04-20 01:40:24 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: The One True TheDavid: They should have left him alone in the first place.

Yes, removing someone who may or may not have been the cause of a traffic problem in the future, living in unsafe conditions as it is, should be left alone, especially after being discovered, only to encourage more people to try the same thing.


So far he hasn't bothered or hurt anybody or suffered any accidents.

You may or may not run over a little kid who runs into the street as you drive to work tomorrow. What should we do with you? I know! How about take your car and license away just in the off chance that it might save a life.

Yes the police should DEFINITELY not be out their enforcing law and order.

Nope. Never that.


What law was he breaking that's worth wrecking what little life he'd achieved? Tresspassing? Supposed we do the same with you: step one foot on property you don't have express written permission to be on and we'll take throw all your stuff out and make you stay in a homeless shelter or McDonald's.

As for "order," in what way was he causing disorder? What tumult or commotion, what civil disturbance? You think maybe drivers were spooked by his snoring?

Jeez, man. Try North Korea.
 
2014-04-20 02:24:56 PM  

The One True TheDavid: What law was he breaking that's worth wrecking what little life he'd achieved? Tresspassing? Supposed we do the same with you: step one foot on property you don't have express written permission to be on and we'll take throw all your stuff out and make you stay in a homeless shelter or McDonald's.


Public property, making it his home, trespassing, possible danger to the public/traffic, there's this whole 'logistics' thing most people don't take into consideration.

The One True TheDavid: What should we do with you? I know! How about take your car and license away just in the off chance that it might save a life.


Your hyperbole and strawman are adorable, but let's keep that to a minimum if you want me to take you seriously.

The One True TheDavid: As for "order," in what way was he causing disorder? What tumult or commotion, what civil disturbance? You think maybe drivers were spooked by his snoring?


Did you miss the part about 'discouraging others from trying that'? Or are you willfully ignorant?

Look I get that you have a spoiled 1st Worlder's Conscience and an overabundance of empathy instead of rationality, that's common in most places these days. But do you really think that this guy's story is that unique, and that others won't copy it if the cops had just 'let him be' after it became news?

Again, your lack of forethought and ability are what's cutting you off at the legs here.

"Dear God. What is it like in your funny little brains? It must be so boring."
 
2014-04-20 02:52:21 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Tetrazphere: This is a simple liberal or conservative test.

If you think society is marginalizing him and not giving him the tools or chance to succeed and maybe there should be a social government-funded  program to help people in these special cases , you're liberal.

If you think many people go through tough circumstances and those that are self-reliant and willing to work hard and put up with difficult work if necessary is what's needed to get ahead in life, you're conservative.

/If you think both are true that's Integral thinking

And if I think both are a load of bullshiat?


Depends on if you have a practical well informed distinct alternate opinion. If so it likely still falls into a focus on the exterior unfair variables that the man has no control of (liberal), or the interior attitudes such as self-reliance, work ethic and self-motivation (conservative). If you demand on including both interior of exterior of self and culture, that is Integral. And there's always the possibility you are some type of anti-social narcissist who has a knee-jerk reaction to disagree with anyone else's assertion, but that is too strong of a label to just throw around.
 
2014-04-20 02:55:50 PM  

Tetrazphere: Depends on if you have a practical well informed distinct alternate opinion. If so it likely still falls into a focus on the exterior unfair variables that the man has no control of (liberal), or the interior attitudes such as self-reliance, work ethic and self-motivation (conservative). If you demand on including both interior of exterior of self and culture, that is Integral. And there's always the possibility you are some type of anti-social narcissist who has a knee-jerk reaction to disagree with anyone else's assertion, but that is too strong of a label to just throw around.


What sort of thinking is it when you believe that there's no such thing as 'luck' but it's all randomized and sometimes life just sucks and it's best for people it's not directly effecting to either do something about themselves (pitch in, help, volunteer) or accept that life is shiat for some people and they should stop braying like mules about 'inequality'?
 
2014-04-20 03:49:14 PM  

picturescrazy: Strongbeerrules: What did he do to anyone?

That's my thought. He's not hurting anyone being up there and made himself a decent shelter that's out of everyone's way. Why kick him out?


Because when his little shed catches fire and burns up all the power and communications cabling under there it's gonna hurt a lot of people.
 
2014-04-20 08:36:18 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: Tetrazphere: Depends on if you have a practical well informed distinct alternate opinion. If so it likely still falls into a focus on the exterior unfair variables that the man has no control of (liberal), or the interior attitudes such as self-reliance, work ethic and self-motivation (conservative). If you demand on including both interior of exterior of self and culture, that is Integral. And there's always the possibility you are some type of anti-social narcissist who has a knee-jerk reaction to disagree with anyone else's assertion, but that is too strong of a label to just throw around.

What sort of thinking is it when you believe that there's no such thing as 'luck' but it's all randomized and sometimes life just sucks and it's best for people it's not directly effecting to either do something about themselves (pitch in, help, volunteer) or accept that life is shiat for some people and they should stop braying like mules about 'inequality'?


I think that falls on a weak liberal side (acknowledging the exterior 'random' events). And I say weak only in the sense that you are not following that up by laying blame on the exterior society/culture around him. Possibly a southern democrat or libertarian view.
 
2014-04-20 10:30:55 PM  
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2014-04-21 02:09:36 PM  
So unlike all of the trolls on Fark, he actually lives under a bridge.
 
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