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(ESPN)   For everyone who says the NBA is boring because the high seeds always win, 8-seed Atlanta just kicked the crap out of the number one overall seed in the East   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 62
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2014-04-19 11:05:46 PM
Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)
 
2014-04-19 11:17:49 PM
In the East.
 
2014-04-19 11:24:07 PM
Pacers lose, and you can almost pencil the Heat in for a fourth straight finals appearance.
Of course, if the Pacers face the Heat in the Eastern finals, the. Heat may still win, so there's that.
 
2014-04-19 11:32:07 PM
Meh, the Pacers may be the number one seed in the east, but they aren't the best team in the east.
 
2014-04-19 11:50:28 PM

Mike_LowELL: (Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out. Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)


Five point game at the moment...
 
2014-04-19 11:53:31 PM
You've got to create some drama or nobody will tune in. It's pretty basic script writing.
 
2014-04-19 11:58:30 PM
Oh wow they won one game of a five game series? COUNT ME IN
 
2014-04-19 11:59:14 PM
I think the NBA is boring because a 38-44 team goes to the playoffs.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2014-04-20 12:32:30 AM
I loved the fact that the Raptors GM went out in the public party that was being held outside of the Raptors game and yelled "F*CK BROOKLYN"

Hilarious.
 
2014-04-20 01:17:00 AM

Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)


Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.
 
2014-04-20 01:18:32 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Oh wow they won one game of a five game series? COUNT ME IN


What year is this? It's best of seven.
 
2014-04-20 01:19:31 AM

dameron: I think the NBA is boring because a 38-44 team goes to the playoffs.


The Eastern Conference is boring until the EC Finals, that's true.
 
2014-04-20 01:21:42 AM

steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.


Both Dallas and San Antonio lost to 8 seeds in the last decade. They were both kind of a big deal, especially the Mavs/Warriors series. Dallas was coming off a controversial Finals loss against dickhead Wade and the Heat and Dirk was regular season MVP. It was quite embarrassing.
 
2014-04-20 01:22:27 AM
Gosh, who could have seen that coming?
 
2014-04-20 01:31:18 AM

MBK: I loved the fact that the Raptors GM went out in the public party that was being held outside of the Raptors game and yelled "F*CK BROOKLYN"

Hilarious.


He apologized at halftime.  It was still funny though, mostly because it was so unexpected.
 
2014-04-20 01:32:15 AM
I thought it was boring because teams with winning records weren't in it and teams with losing records were. I guess I was wrong.
 
2014-04-20 01:41:00 AM
Winning by 8 points is getting the crap kicked out of you?
In hockey, yes.
In the NBA, you overcome that with three 3 pointers in 60 seconds.
 
2014-04-20 01:42:24 AM
I've said from the beginning that the Pacers are just a Paper Lion for the NBA to throw up against the Heat.

Here's the NBA's thought process: "Oooh, there's this team in Indiana that could challenge Miami! They're up and coming with Paul George and a dash of Larry Bird thrown in to make the old school fans happy! They'll beat the Heat in a highly publicized regular-season matchup! Heck, they'll even win the East as Miami looks old and frail! But the Pacers will suddenly start to struggle at the end of the regular season and the Heat will rise up, overcoming all their injuries! Because no one will watch the Pacers in The Finals! It'll be the Heat, adding to the legend of LeBron! And they'll face the Spurs again! And they'll beat them to prove how stardom is more important that good team play, or at least when the stars are as legendary as LeBron! And we'll make oodles of cash!"
 
2014-04-20 01:57:10 AM
content.sportslogos.net

EFF YALL WE'RE ON TRACK TO GO UNDEFEATED IN THE ENTIRE POSTSEASON
 
2014-04-20 02:04:02 AM

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: EFF YALL WE'RE ON TRACK TO GO UNDEFEATED IN THE ENTIRE POSTSEASON


That logo still looks like Pac Man to me.
 
2014-04-20 02:19:16 AM
Win three more. Then call me.
 
2014-04-20 02:25:44 AM

Ryker's Peninsula: Winning by 8 points is getting the crap kicked out of you?
In hockey, yes.
In the NBA, you overcome that with three 3 pointers in 60 seconds.

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The 8-pt. final deficit wasn't indicative of the whole game. The Hawks dominated from start to finish, Pacers scored garbage points down the stretch. Atlanta has now beaten Indiana 3 times this season in Indiana; they know how to compete w/ them. Combine that with the Pacers inability to score over the last 2 months & the disappearance of Roy Hibbert, the Hawks could conceivably steal this series.
 
2014-04-20 02:26:41 AM

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Billy Crystal Meth Lab: EFF YALL WE'RE ON TRACK TO GO UNDEFEATED IN THE ENTIRE POSTSEASON

That logo still looks like Pac Man to me.


Yeah, yeah it does.
 
2014-04-20 07:47:32 AM
They one game by 8
 
2014-04-20 07:47:59 AM
so the white girls were safe?
 
2014-04-20 08:47:01 AM
Time for a mid playoff panic trade.
 
2014-04-20 08:55:29 AM

TheJoe03: steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.

Both Dallas and San Antonio lost to 8 seeds in the last decade. They were both kind of a big deal, especially the Mavs/Warriors series. Dallas was coming off a controversial Finals loss against dickhead Wade and the Heat and Dirk was regular season MVP. It was quite embarrassing.


Gonna need more citation since all I remember is mutumbo lying on the floor holding the ball. I forget who it was against but I remember the west was shiatty those years.
 
2014-04-20 09:24:59 AM
The Pacers have been messed up for weeks now.  Kinda thought they would flick the switch once the playoffs started.  Guess I was wrong, which is a shame because I can't think of anything more boring that watching the Heat win the Eastern conference without any competition.
 
2014-04-20 09:45:06 AM

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: [content.sportslogos.net image 476x567]

EFF YALL WE'RE ON TRACK TO GO UNDEFEATED IN THE ENTIRE POSTSEASON


This!
 
2014-04-20 09:47:09 AM
When Denver beat Seattle in the first round, Seattle wasn't a bad team, it was a cocky team, especially Gary Payton. The final game went into overtime and during it, Denver turned it over twice on 24 second violations, and still won. Seattle was projected by many to win the title that year.
 
2014-04-20 10:01:43 AM

steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.


2 out of the past 3 years an 8 seed has eliminated a 1 seed.  I was at game 6 in Memphis 3 years ago when they eliminated San Antonio.
 
2014-04-20 10:05:37 AM

Flappyhead: MBK: I loved the fact that the Raptors GM went out in the public party that was being held outside of the Raptors game and yelled "F*CK BROOKLYN"

Hilarious.

He apologized at halftime.  It was still funny though, mostly because it was so unexpected.


Well, he might just be running for Mayor?
 
2014-04-20 10:09:25 AM

neuroflare: I thought it was boring because teams with winning records weren't in it and teams with losing records were. I guess I was wrong.


Because in other sports have never have that happened?

/hockey repeatedly
//NFL 2010
///MLB never, but, 2005 was pretty close
////Granted, NBA takes the cake in this department generally
 
2014-04-20 10:40:50 AM

dletter: neuroflare: I thought it was boring because teams with winning records weren't in it and teams with losing records were. I guess I was wrong.

Because in other sports have never have that happened?

/hockey repeatedly
//NFL 2010
///MLB never, but, 2005 was pretty close
////Granted, NBA takes the cake in this department generally


What do other sports have to do with why people find basketball boring?  Did he say 'this is so boring since it happens only in basketball and no other sport"?  Or "this is boring when it happens in basketball but I love it when it happens in other sports -- then it's great!"

If not, I don't see what the NFL has to do with disliking basketball.
 
2014-04-20 10:44:07 AM

Ryker's Peninsula: Winning by 8 points is getting the crap kicked out of you?
In hockey, yes.
In the NBA, you overcome that with three 3 pointers in 60 seconds.


The Pacers were getting blown out and fans were leaving in the middle of the 4th. Stick with hockey.
 
2014-04-20 10:51:42 AM

RickN99: dletter: neuroflare: I thought it was boring because teams with winning records weren't in it and teams with losing records were. I guess I was wrong.

Because in other sports have never have that happened?

/hockey repeatedly
//NFL 2010
///MLB never, but, 2005 was pretty close
////Granted, NBA takes the cake in this department generally

What do other sports have to do with why people find basketball boring?  Did he say 'this is so boring since it happens only in basketball and no other sport"?  Or "this is boring when it happens in basketball but I love it when it happens in other sports -- then it's great!"

If not, I don't see what the NFL has to do with disliking basketball.


Reading comprehension, get yours before it's too late!
 
2014-04-20 10:53:44 AM

Chunks McGunks: steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.

2 out of the past 3 years an 8 seed has eliminated a 1 seed.  I was at game 6 in Memphis 3 years ago when they eliminated San Antonio.


Yeah finally looked it up and in the previous years before going to 7 games series it only happened once legitimately then after a revamp the Knicks were a different team in a stike year.

7 game series are more unpredictable and shows how much I follow basketball since I didn't even know they had done that now.
 
2014-04-20 11:43:38 AM

steamingpile: Chunks McGunks: steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.

2 out of the past 3 years an 8 seed has eliminated a 1 seed.  I was at game 6 in Memphis 3 years ago when they eliminated San Antonio.

Yeah finally looked it up and in the previous years before going to 7 games series it only happened once legitimately then after a revamp the Knicks were a different team in a stike year.

7 game series are more unpredictable and shows how much I follow basketball since I didn't even know they had done that now.


I'm pretty sure a 5 game series is less predictable than a 7.
 
2014-04-20 11:50:03 AM
I think it's boring because the first 3 quarters of each game don't really matter. Much like the first 3/4 of the regular season.

Basketball: It's always on, but only gets exciting towards the end.
 
2014-04-20 11:52:06 AM
Best months to watch pro sports

Basketball--June
Baseball--October
Football--September thru February
Hockey--meh
 
2014-04-20 12:09:04 PM
I like the NBA playoffs once they make it to later rounds; last year's final series was terrific. Even so, the NBA first round is the most worthless slice of postseason in any of the big four professional sports.

Do you get first-round upsets sometimes? Sure. Do those underdog teams turn those first round upsets into anything? Pretty much never.

The NBA has had a sixteen-team, four series format since the '84 postseason. So there have been sixty teams in the Finals since then. Only two of them started in the bottom half of their conference seedings (5-8). One team was the '95 Rockets; they actually won the title as a six seed. But they were also the defending champs, so not your typical six seed. The other time a low seed made the finals was in '99, when the Knicks came all the way from the eighth seed. But that was a strike-shortened season, fifty games instead of eighty-two. So low seeds have only made deep runs twice in thirty years, and each time the seeding comes with a major asterisk.

First-round upsets do happen, but they're meaningless by the time everything plays out. An underdog can thin the herd, but it stands virtually no chance of leading the pack.
 
2014-04-20 12:15:34 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: steamingpile: Chunks McGunks: steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.

2 out of the past 3 years an 8 seed has eliminated a 1 seed.  I was at game 6 in Memphis 3 years ago when they eliminated San Antonio.

Yeah finally looked it up and in the previous years before going to 7 games series it only happened once legitimately then after a revamp the Knicks were a different team in a stike year.

7 game series are more unpredictable and shows how much I follow basketball since I didn't even know they had done that now.

I'm pretty sure a 5 game series is less predictable than a 7.


Yeah, going to 7 games favors the home team.  There is also a huge difference in talent between a NBA 1 seed and a 8 seed. You don't really see this much of a talent gap between teams in other sports except for hockey of course. Hockey how ever the top seed seems to get knocked out in the first round every other year.  In hockey how ever I think it is a lot easier if your goal tender gets hot at the right time you are for practical purposes invincible.
 
2014-04-20 12:23:25 PM

overheard in mayfair: I like the NBA playoffs once they make it to later rounds; last year's final series was terrific. Even so, the NBA first round is the most worthless slice of postseason in any of the big four professional sports.

Do you get first-round upsets sometimes? Sure. Do those underdog teams turn those first round upsets into anything? Pretty much never.

The NBA has had a sixteen-team, four series format since the '84 postseason. So there have been sixty teams in the Finals since then. Only two of them started in the bottom half of their conference seedings (5-8). One team was the '95 Rockets; they actually won the title as a six seed. But they were also the defending champs, so not your typical six seed. The other time a low seed made the finals was in '99, when the Knicks came all the way from the eighth seed. But that was a strike-shortened season, fifty games instead of eighty-two. So low seeds have only made deep runs twice in thirty years, and each time the seeding comes with a major asterisk.

First-round upsets do happen, but they're meaningless by the time everything plays out. An underdog can thin the herd, but it stands virtually no chance of leading the pack.


It would be embarrassing to any sport if a lower tier playoff team consistently led the pack. Hockey is different beast however just because of the nature of the sport and the importance of a goalie in any game, and when a goalie catches fire at the right time all bets are off.
 
2014-04-20 12:34:15 PM

Rozotorical: overheard in mayfair: I like the NBA playoffs once they make it to later rounds; last year's final series was terrific. Even so, the NBA first round is the most worthless slice of postseason in any of the big four professional sports.

Do you get first-round upsets sometimes? Sure. Do those underdog teams turn those first round upsets into anything? Pretty much never.

The NBA has had a sixteen-team, four series format since the '84 postseason. So there have been sixty teams in the Finals since then. Only two of them started in the bottom half of their conference seedings (5-8). One team was the '95 Rockets; they actually won the title as a six seed. But they were also the defending champs, so not your typical six seed. The other time a low seed made the finals was in '99, when the Knicks came all the way from the eighth seed. But that was a strike-shortened season, fifty games instead of eighty-two. So low seeds have only made deep runs twice in thirty years, and each time the seeding comes with a major asterisk.

First-round upsets do happen, but they're meaningless by the time everything plays out. An underdog can thin the herd, but it stands virtually no chance of leading the pack.

It would be embarrassing to any sport if a lower tier playoff team consistently led the pack. Hockey is different beast however just because of the nature of the sport and the importance of a goalie in any game, and when a goalie catches fire at the right time all bets are off.


I agree. But there's a large middle ground between "consistently" and "nearly never." My point would be that in other sports, the number of rounds have a reason to exist in that any first round winner could conceivably win the title. If the NBA started a round later, the top eight teams instead of the top sixteen, it would have made a difference exactly once in thirty years. They won't scrap this round, obviously, because more playoff games=more $$$. But in terms of its contribution to determining a champion, the first round is functionally worthless.

And yes, hockey is different because a sport played on a frictionless surface that gets scuffed over the course of game carries a higher degree of randomness with it. The same is true of baseball, to a lesser extent and for different reasons.
 
2014-04-20 12:53:51 PM

overheard in mayfair: Rozotorical: overheard in mayfair: I like the NBA playoffs once they make it to later rounds; last year's final series was terrific. Even so, the NBA first round is the most worthless slice of postseason in any of the big four professional sports.

Do you get first-round upsets sometimes? Sure. Do those underdog teams turn those first round upsets into anything? Pretty much never.

The NBA has had a sixteen-team, four series format since the '84 postseason. So there have been sixty teams in the Finals since then. Only two of them started in the bottom half of their conference seedings (5-8). One team was the '95 Rockets; they actually won the title as a six seed. But they were also the defending champs, so not your typical six seed. The other time a low seed made the finals was in '99, when the Knicks came all the way from the eighth seed. But that was a strike-shortened season, fifty games instead of eighty-two. So low seeds have only made deep runs twice in thirty years, and each time the seeding comes with a major asterisk.

First-round upsets do happen, but they're meaningless by the time everything plays out. An underdog can thin the herd, but it stands virtually no chance of leading the pack.

It would be embarrassing to any sport if a lower tier playoff team consistently led the pack. Hockey is different beast however just because of the nature of the sport and the importance of a goalie in any game, and when a goalie catches fire at the right time all bets are off.

I agree. But there's a large middle ground between "consistently" and "nearly never." My point would be that in other sports, the number of rounds have a reason to exist in that any first round winner could conceivably win the title. If the NBA started a round later, the top eight teams instead of the top sixteen, it would have made a difference exactly once in thirty years. They won't scrap this round, obviously, because more playoff games=more $$$. But in terms of its contribution to determinin ...


Randomness of hockey has little to do with it in my opinion. I would say dumb luck plays happen at just about the same rate in all sports.

When a goalie gets hot in hockey he has such a huge impact on the outcome of the game, there  really are no other position in any other sport like it.  Look at Cam Ward in '06 or Quick in '12, those guys just caught fire and carried their team to the cup.
 
2014-04-20 02:02:51 PM
Rozotorical: Randomness of hockey has little to do with it in my opinion. I would say dumb luck plays happen at just about the same rate in all sports.

When a goalie gets hot in hockey he has such a huge impact on the outcome of the game, there  really are no other position in any other sport like it.  Look at Cam Ward in '06 or Quick in '12, those guys just caught fire and carried their team to the cup.


I wouldn't go so far as to suggest a goalie getting hot is "dumb luck," but "just catching fire" as a metaphor implies a good deal of randomness.

There does seem to be a recognizable baseball equivalent for this in the "hot pitcher" phenomenon. But there isn't really a basketball equivalent, at least not in the professional game. There are "streak shooters," but a streak shooter never has enough of an impact to turn an also-ran into a champion by himself.
 
2014-04-20 02:20:06 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: Winning by 8 points is getting the crap kicked out of you?
In hockey, yes.
In the NBA, you overcome that with three 3 pointers in 60 seconds.


It wasn't really that close. The Hawks were up by 14 with a minute to go and led by double digits for pretty much the entire 4th quarter.
 

Gosling: Win three more. Then call me.


This.
 
2014-04-20 02:23:51 PM

overheard in mayfair: Rozotorical: Randomness of hockey has little to do with it in my opinion. I would say dumb luck plays happen at just about the same rate in all sports.

When a goalie gets hot in hockey he has such a huge impact on the outcome of the game, there  really are no other position in any other sport like it.  Look at Cam Ward in '06 or Quick in '12, those guys just caught fire and carried their team to the cup.

I wouldn't go so far as to suggest a goalie getting hot is "dumb luck," but "just catching fire" as a metaphor implies a good deal of randomness.

There does seem to be a recognizable baseball equivalent for this in the "hot pitcher" phenomenon. But there isn't really a basketball equivalent, at least not in the professional game. There are "streak shooters," but a streak shooter never has enough of an impact to turn an also-ran into a champion by himself.


I would say the closest would be a pitcher, but they simply do not play the same amount as a goalie does.
 
2014-04-20 02:29:40 PM

steamingpile: TheJoe03: steamingpile: Mike_LowELL: Oh man.  This headline is like one of those zapper lights, except instead of zapping mosquitoes, it's gonna zap butthurt NBA haters.

(Forgot to mention two six-seeds also won out.  Was hoping Memphis would add to the road dominance, but they're getting wasted.)

Its one game, only one 8 seed has ever won and it was against a bad Seattle team.

Both Dallas and San Antonio lost to 8 seeds in the last decade. They were both kind of a big deal, especially the Mavs/Warriors series. Dallas was coming off a controversial Finals loss against dickhead Wade and the Heat and Dirk was regular season MVP. It was quite embarrassing.

Gonna need more citation since all I remember is mutumbo lying on the floor holding the ball. I forget who it was against but I remember the west was shiatty those years.


Just admit you were wrong, I have no reason to give you citations, you have google.
 
2014-04-20 03:14:58 PM

overheard in mayfair: I like the NBA playoffs once they make it to later rounds; last year's final series was terrific. Even so, the NBA first round is the most worthless slice of postseason in any of the big four professional sports.

Do you get first-round upsets sometimes? Sure. Do those underdog teams turn those first round upsets into anything? Pretty much never.

The NBA has had a sixteen-team, four series format since the '84 postseason. So there have been sixty teams in the Finals since then. Only two of them started in the bottom half of their conference seedings (5-8). One team was the '95 Rockets; they actually won the title as a six seed. But they were also the defending champs, so not your typical six seed. The other time a low seed made the finals was in '99, when the Knicks came all the way from the eighth seed. But that was a strike-shortened season, fifty games instead of eighty-two. So low seeds have only made deep runs twice in thirty years, and each time the seeding comes with a major asterisk.

First-round upsets do happen, but they're meaningless by the time everything plays out. An underdog can thin the herd, but it stands virtually no chance of leading the pack.


Wow. It's almost like good teams win and bad teams lose and yet you somehow find something wrong with it because it is the NBA.
 
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