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2014-04-20 07:32:30 AM

friday13: Educate yourself.


He knows full farking well that southern politicians regardless of party lines voted against the CRA.  He also knows full farking well the only southern politicians who voted for it were Democrats.  And he knows full farking well that all the racists bailed for the Republican party in 1964.

He just doesn't want to admit that his party is a refuge for farking racists, and lacks the spine the Democrats showed fifty years ago in kicking most of the human filth out of their party even though they knew it would cost them the south for generations.

I wish the Republicans had even a shred of that sort of moral decency.
 
2014-04-20 07:36:45 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: I'm not sure how making the distinction is useful considering they have the same exact agenda.


Yeah, "well, they're murdering racist scumbags, but they're not highly-organized murdering racist scumbags" is hardly the most flattering of lines to draw
 
2014-04-20 07:45:22 AM
FTA: The Klan could change its name, get a smooth-talking spokesperson, replace the robes with suits and take off those ridiculous hats, but underneath, people would recognize its message is the same.

upload.wikimedia.org

Yep.
 
2014-04-20 08:03:09 AM
I'm reading The Rift by W.J.Williams these days, so I'm getting a kick out of this.
 
2014-04-20 08:08:29 AM
Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.
 
2014-04-20 08:09:06 AM

DemonEater: friday13: Educate yourself.

He knows full farking well that southern politicians regardless of party lines voted against the CRA.  He also knows full farking well the only southern politicians who voted for it were Democrats.  And he knows full farking well that all the racists bailed for the Republican party in 1964.

He just doesn't want to admit that his party is a refuge for farking racists, and lacks the spine the Democrats showed fifty years ago in kicking most of the human filth out of their party even though they knew it would cost them the south for generations.

I wish the Republicans had even a shred of that sort of moral decency.


Ain't that the truth....
 
2014-04-20 08:10:58 AM

doglover: Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.


Still not seeing any moral difference there bud
 
2014-04-20 08:26:53 AM

staplermofo: The KKK's core message resonates with a lot of decent, god-fearing, hard-working Americans.  They don't want to hurt anyone, and they genuinely think their plan will make everyone better off.  It's important for that message to get out.  The worst thing you can say about them as a group, compared with people who disagree, is that they're wrong.  It's tempting to say non-racists are better than racists in areas other than racism; but, we're probably not.  At some point, if democracy is going to work, we have to learn to deal with the fact that people can be wrong and persuasive, and people can be right and off-putting.  It's not fair to equate the KKK with the worst of its members, and it's not fair to equate civil rights leaders with the best of its members.  There are jackasses on both sides, the difference is that one of them is right.


Poe's law in action.
 
2014-04-20 08:27:39 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: doglover: Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.

Still not seeing any moral difference there bud


On one hand, there's very little. On the other hand, have you ever driven behind someone from Ohio? This isn't hate, it's just road rage.
 
2014-04-20 08:29:35 AM

cc_rider: Huh, I thought they already re-branded?

https://www.freespeech.org/text/tea-party-nation-now-promoting-opera ti on-american-spring


The tea party is a rebranding of the John Birtch Society, which is similar to, but not the same as, the KKK.
 
2014-04-20 08:30:56 AM

doglover: Crotchrocket Slim: doglover: Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.

Still not seeing any moral difference there bud

On one hand, there's very little. On the other hand, have you ever driven behind someone from Ohio? This isn't hate, it's just road rage.


OK, I'll ask you another way: is the reason the early KKK wanted to kill all white Northerners they ran into any way not in retaliation for them no longer being able to treat black people as livestock? And I make it a point to avoid Ohio, Nebraska is terrible enough of a flyover state for me, and I'm from MN and I lived close to the IA border in my childhood.
 
2014-04-20 08:33:06 AM

FloridaFarkTag: 420Gabriel: They could rename themselves the GOP.

Actually, and traditionally, the Klan is Democrat.

The Klan was notorious in the South from keeping Republicans from being elected, and to keep Blacks from voting Republican

Probably one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the media is that the GOP is racist...when in fact it was Democrats....and Democrats were the Klan members in the south


Guess who hasn't studied modern history.

/Nixon, you dolt!
 
2014-04-20 08:35:16 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: doglover: Crotchrocket Slim: doglover: Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.

Still not seeing any moral difference there bud

On one hand, there's very little. On the other hand, have you ever driven behind someone from Ohio? This isn't hate, it's just road rage.

OK, I'll ask you another way: is the reason the early KKK wanted to kill all white Northerners they ran into any way not in retaliation for them no longer being able to treat black people as livestock? And I make it a point to avoid Ohio, Nebraska is terrible enough of a flyover state for me, and I'm from MN and I lived close to the IA border in my childhood.


The weird thing is, Ohio driving isn't even that bad once your inside the state. But it's like there's this magical force-field on the turnpike that when you cross from Ohio to another state, if you have Ohio plates your brain just explodes and you forget what the hell that pedal on the right does and what right and left are.

And it's not like they're lost. It's a TURNPIKE! There's no off ramps or stoplights in the left lane. Just a speed limit they seem incapable of reaching and an understanding that everyone else is trying to go faster than that speed limit.
 
2014-04-20 08:45:12 AM
The only thing these farking buttholes are good for is 1) target practice or 2) an example to the rest of society what is a farking butthole.  I prefer #1 myself, although I would be open to hanging them.  Poetic justice.
 
2014-04-20 08:46:41 AM

Rann Xerox: FTA: The Klan could change its name, get a smooth-talking spokesperson, replace the robes with suits and take off those ridiculous hats, but underneath, people would recognize its message is the same.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 315x438]

Yep.


Dude, I'm not that big of a fan of Pat, but not even he is that bad.  Seriously.  He's mellowed a lot in his old age.
 
2014-04-20 09:12:54 AM
This sounds like some sort of Photoshop challenge.
 
2014-04-20 09:14:00 AM

FloridaFarkTag: 420Gabriel: They could rename themselves the GOP.

Actually, and traditionally, the Klan is Democrat.

The Klan was notorious in the South from keeping Republicans from being elected, and to keep Blacks from voting Republican

Probably one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the media is that the GOP is racist...when in fact it was Democrats....and Democrats were the Klan members in the south


A lot has changed since 1867.

And I would say that it's a safe bet that few people today who are KKK supporters or sympathizers voted for the top of the Democratic ticket in 2008 and 2012, wouldn't you think?
 
2014-04-20 09:16:53 AM
How about the new, friendlier Cu Clux Clan?
www.omni-chem.com
 
2014-04-20 09:19:37 AM
 Another fine example of CNN "journalism".
 
2014-04-20 09:20:27 AM

tirob: FloridaFarkTag: 420Gabriel: They could rename themselves the GOP.

Actually, and traditionally, the Klan is Democrat.

The Klan was notorious in the South from keeping Republicans from being elected, and to keep Blacks from voting Republican

Probably one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the media is that the GOP is racist...when in fact it was Democrats....and Democrats were the Klan members in the south

A lot has changed since 1867.

And I would say that it's a safe bet that few people today who are KKK supporters or sympathizers voted for the top of the Democratic ticket in 2008 and 2012, wouldn't you think?


Don't bother man, once we actually took him to task for this jackassery and historical revisionism he split like a little coward. He came into the thread with nothing and left with even less.
 
2014-04-20 09:23:42 AM
Huh?  I thought the Tea Party was the rebranding of the KKK.
 
2014-04-20 09:26:34 AM
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2014-04-20 09:27:56 AM

Great_Milenko: Huh?  I thought the Tea Party was the rebranding of the KKK.


I don't think the Klan was quite so against women having health care, or birth control.  But I could be wrong.
 
2014-04-20 09:42:53 AM

FloridaFarkTag: George Wallace, Al Gore, Sr, William Fulbright, and a lot of other racist Democrats remained in the GOP. Gore, Sr and Fulbright (Bill Clinton's mentor) were Democrat Sens who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.


1) Elvis has left the building.  If any of those guys were on the ballot anywhere, I might care what party they belonged to.

2) George Wallace quit the Democratic Party and ran as a third party candidate.

3) Jesse Helms.  Strom Thurmond.

4) Elvis has left the building.  If either of those guys were on the ballot anywhere, I might care what party they belonged to.

5) I care what the Democrats and Republicans stand for today.  There's plenty of reasoned criticism to offer toward the Democrats.  But whatever reason the Republicans ever possessed left the building the moment that first plane hit the tower.
 
2014-04-20 09:45:26 AM

bobothemagnificent: Rann Xerox: FTA: The Klan could change its name, get a smooth-talking spokesperson, replace the robes with suits and take off those ridiculous hats, but underneath, people would recognize its message is the same.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 315x438]

Yep.

Dude, I'm not that big of a fan of Pat, but not even he is that bad.  Seriously.  He's mellowed a lot in his old age.


Yeah, now he just writes swoony paeans to that hunky Vlad Putin.
 
2014-04-20 09:48:11 AM

staplermofo: I would watch every episode of Extreme Makeover: Hate Group Edition.


The "after" picture is a southern gentlemen, immaculately groomed and wearing a fitted suit, holding a sign that says "I respectfully oppose your ethnic and sociological diversity. Please emigrate"
 
2014-04-20 09:50:10 AM

doglover: Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another.


www.austinchronicle.com
 
2014-04-20 09:58:33 AM

FloridaFarkTag: 420Gabriel: They could rename themselves the GOP.

Actually, and traditionally, the Klan is Democrat.

The Klan was notorious in the South from keeping Republicans from being elected, and to keep Blacks from voting Republican

Probably one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the media is that the GOP is racist...when in fact it was Democrats....and Democrats were the Klan members in the south


The guy who shot up the Jewish Community Center tried to run as a Democrat for governor of North Carolina in 1984. (He did not get anywhere close to getting the nomination.)

Two years later, he tried to run as a Republican for Senator.
 
2014-04-20 10:09:42 AM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: FloridaFarkTag: George Wallace, Al Gore, Sr, William Fulbright, and a lot of other racist Democrats remained in the GOP. Gore, Sr and Fulbright (Bill Clinton's mentor) were Democrat Sens who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

1) Elvis has left the building.  If any of those guys were on the ballot anywhere, I might care what party they belonged to.

2) George Wallace quit the Democratic Party and ran as a third party candidate.

3) Jesse Helms.  Strom Thurmond.

4) Elvis has left the building.  If either of those guys were on the ballot anywhere, I might care what party they belonged to.

5) I care what the Democrats and Republicans stand for today.  There's plenty of reasoned criticism to offer toward the Democrats.  But whatever reason the Republicans ever possessed left the building the moment that first plane hit the towerReagan won the GOP Presidential primary.

 
2014-04-20 10:21:28 AM

FloridaFarkTag: ...is...was...were


One of these words is not like others.
 
2014-04-20 10:31:37 AM
Leave it to CNN to write an article about something as serious as the KKK and start it with the words "Pointy hats".
 
2014-04-20 10:34:42 AM
www.smbc-comics.com
Not a science article, but still very applicable.  Thanks, CNN.
 
2014-04-20 10:42:20 AM
 The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.

 They are always the first to inject race into politics and (not coincidentally) the only ones to hurl racial epithets like "Uncle Tom" at me.

 This is certainly not to imply that there isn't racism in the Republican ranks. There is and I've seen it. But speaking as somebody who's dealt with it my whole life, the lefties have been far worse about it.
 
2014-04-20 10:44:15 AM

Fark You I'm Drunk: Leave it to CNN to write an article about something as serious as the KKK and start it with the words "Pointy hats".


"Pointy hats for pointy heads" sums up the Klan quite nicely, though. It's a good start, at least.
 
2014-04-20 10:46:16 AM
The Klan will remain small because the Republican Party co-opted it's agenda.
 
2014-04-20 10:51:37 AM

GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.

 They are always the first to inject race into politics and (not coincidentally) the only ones to hurl racial epithets like "Uncle Tom" at me.

 This is certainly not to imply that there isn't racism in the Republican ranks. There is and I've seen it. But speaking as somebody who's dealt with it my whole life, the lefties have been far worse about it.


You off to see the Wizard with that strawman?
 
2014-04-20 10:54:13 AM

FloridaFarkTag: 420Gabriel: They could rename themselves the GOP.

Actually, and traditionally, the Klan is Democrat.

The Klan was notorious in the South from keeping Republicans from being elected, and to keep Blacks from voting Republican

Probably one of the biggest lies perpetuated by the media is that the GOP is racist...when in fact it was Democrats....and Democrats were the Klan members in the south


Why is it you keep ignoring the mid 1960's?? Especially the years 1964 to 1973. When most racist Democrats (both north and south) jumped ship to the GOP. Your ignorance of history and it's misplacement of the facts is denial at it's best and flat out lying at it's worst.
 
2014-04-20 10:54:30 AM

GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.
.


All of that has got to be frustrating to deal with if you're black.  I take it, however, that you're not as offended when right wingers express the opinion that blacks are an inferior species of human being.  It's been known to happen from time to time; I could cite you chapter and verse if you like.
 
2014-04-20 10:58:06 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.

 They are always the first to inject race into politics and (not coincidentally) the only ones to hurl racial epithets like "Uncle Tom" at me.

 This is certainly not to imply that there isn't racism in the Republican ranks. There is and I've seen it. But speaking as somebody who's dealt with it my whole life, the lefties have been far worse about it.

You off to see the Wizard with that strawman?


 Either you're claiming that liberals *don't* accuse the right of being racist, or you don't know what a "strawman" is.

Either way, you're funny! :D
 
2014-04-20 11:00:06 AM

GoSlash27: Either you're claiming that liberals *don't* accuse the right of being racist, or you don't know what a "strawman" is.


So stop being racist?
 
2014-04-20 11:01:47 AM

tirob: GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.
.

All of that has got to be frustrating to deal with if you're black.  I take it, however, that you're not as offended when right wingers express the opinion that blacks are an inferior species of human being.  It's been known to happen from time to time; I could cite you chapter and verse if you like.


As I said, it does happen and I don't pretend it doesn't. *But* (of course there's a but) when it happens (which is rare) they don't say it to my face or use it as a weapon like lefties tend to do.
 
2014-04-20 11:04:03 AM

Fart_Machine: GoSlash27: Either you're claiming that liberals *don't* accuse the right of being racist, or you don't know what a "strawman" is.

So stop being racist?


He wouldn't be able to justify sacking the social infrastructure in areas where he knows are populated by mostly black people etc. if he were to just admit he's and his have been intentionally doing this all along, or at least not caring that others were. Hence chiding empty chairs and the like.
 
2014-04-20 11:04:32 AM
When did Clarence Thomas start posting on Fark?
 
2014-04-20 11:05:36 AM

GoSlash27: tirob: GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.
.

All of that has got to be frustrating to deal with if you're black.  I take it, however, that you're not as offended when right wingers express the opinion that blacks are an inferior species of human being.  It's been known to happen from time to time; I could cite you chapter and verse if you like.

As I said, it does happen and I don't pretend it doesn't. *But* (of course there's a but) when it happens (which is rare) they don't say it to my face or use it as a weapon like lefties tend to do.


Yay for pretending the rest of us haven't caught on to obvious dog whistles!

Why don't you go read some old Ron Paul newsletters you dishonest jackass.
 
2014-04-20 11:08:53 AM

GoSlash27: Crotchrocket Slim: GoSlash27: The ol' race card. Didn't take long.

 In my experience, ultra- lefties have exhibited much more racism toward me than uber- conservatives. It's only been the lefties who have assumed that
-I'm black and therefore must think and act a certain way
-I'm black and therefore disadvantaged, thus requiring their benevolent assistance.

 They are always the first to inject race into politics and (not coincidentally) the only ones to hurl racial epithets like "Uncle Tom" at me.

 This is certainly not to imply that there isn't racism in the Republican ranks. There is and I've seen it. But speaking as somebody who's dealt with it my whole life, the lefties have been far worse about it.

You off to see the Wizard with that strawman?

 Either you're claiming that liberals *don't* accuse the right of being racist, or you don't know what a "strawman" is.

Either way, you're funny! :D


Judging by what I've been told by right-wing Fatkers, you can't be black. You'd be too busy playing the Knock Out Game to comment here.
 
2014-04-20 11:09:46 AM

DemonEater: friday13: Educate yourself.

He knows full farking well that southern politicians regardless of party lines voted against the CRA.  He also knows full farking well the only southern politicians who voted for it were Democrats.  And he knows full farking well that all the racists bailed for the Republican party in 1964.

He just doesn't want to admit that his party is a refuge for farking racists, and lacks the spine the Democrats showed fifty years ago in kicking most of the human filth out of their party even though they knew it would cost them the south for generations.

I wish the Republicans had even a shred of that sort of moral decency.


Came in here to say this, but you did it so well I "favorited" you instead.

I also find it amazing how Republicans can remember all these things that happened long ago, yet seem to have no memory of the GW Bush administration ever happening.
 
2014-04-20 11:11:06 AM

doglover: Actually, it appears I was lied to.

They were less a social club and more a guerrilla organization.

But, and this is important, they weren't racists. They wanted to lynch northerners of all colors, not just blacks. The "Aryan Blood" stuff didn't come out until the second and third Klans. Currently the Klan is actually one of several splinter organizations with no relation to one another. It's entirely possible one of them could come to their senses and we might get the happy, friendly Klan. But given the downward derp spiral they've been in, I doubt it.


They started as a group of disgruntled former Confederate soldiers who were angry because (1) they lost and (2) the social orders were overturned because the former slaves became soldiers and politicians and received educations and gathered wealth, something the average Southern white peasant farmer/Confederate veteran could not become (and something only a small percentage of former slaves could become, but anger is never rational). Their targets were the Northerners and their Southern agents, but their targets were also those who decided to upset the pre-war social orders. And the Southerners didn't even need the Klan to enforce the old orders, as lynchings and intimidations occurred by large uncovered mobs as well as by hooded men.
 
2014-04-20 11:13:50 AM

GoSlash27: As I said, it does happen and I don't pretend it doesn't. *But* (of course there's a but) when it happens (which is rare) they don't say it to my face or use it as a weapon like lefties tend to do.


Which party is trying to make it harder for non-whites to vote?

A few loudmouthed morans, whom I agree exist, are nothing compared to actual polities that are designed to be detrimental towards everyone but white males.
 
2014-04-20 11:16:28 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: Fart_Machine: GoSlash27: Either you're claiming that liberals *don't* accuse the right of being racist, or you don't know what a "strawman" is.

So stop being racist?

He wouldn't be able to justify sacking the social infrastructure in areas where he knows are populated by mostly black people etc. if he were to just admit he's and his have been intentionally doing this all along, or at least not caring that others were. Hence chiding empty chairs and the like.


^ Classic example.
 There cannot *possibly* be any reason to support "sacking the social infrastructure in areas where he knows are populated by mostly black people etc" other than hating black people and wanting them to starve. And since I'm a black guy myself, I must necessarily assume my place amongst all of the other black folks by supporting such policies. After all, these poor unfortunate black folks simply aren't capable of fending for themselves without help.

 Race baiting, racial identity politics, assumption of superiority. Right to my face and used as a weapon.

 Righties don't do this.
 
2014-04-20 11:16:42 AM

soporific: GoSlash27: As I said, it does happen and I don't pretend it doesn't. *But* (of course there's a but) when it happens (which is rare) they don't say it to my face or use it as a weapon like lefties tend to do.

Which party is trying to make it harder for non-whites to vote?

A few loudmouthed morans, whom I agree exist, are nothing compared to actual polities that are designed to be detrimental towards everyone but white males.


But but but while the GOP has been using fear of minorities to push wedge issues for decades in addition to pushing policy that would hurt those not in the economic and/or racial minority it's totes unfair to call them out for at least intentionally appealing to racists! For reasons such as.
 
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