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(Politico)   GOP's problems are due to infiltration by liberals causing it to lean too far to the left   (politico.com) divider line 148
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2014-04-19 05:44:56 PM  
 
2014-04-19 05:58:35 PM  
Newsflash, asshole: Congresscritters, Presidents, and state officials are elected to represent and speak for ALL of the people, not just to champions single ideology. Goldwater got crushed, Ron Paul got ignored, and Santorum was turned into a frothy poo joke because they lost sight of that fact.

You're right: Romney wasn't hyper-conservative. He was milquetoast. Good hair, uninspiring message.

But he didn't lose because he wasn't conservative enough. He lost because 85% of the country don't think like the far right, and 51% of the country don't think like the moderate right. Going more right may make you feel better, but unless you can magically find 75,000,000 other people who think like you, you'll die a bitter, bitter man.
 
2014-04-19 06:01:17 PM  
Allow me to summarize TFA: "Waaaaaaah!!"
 
2014-04-19 06:04:50 PM  
In some ways, I was a Tea Partier before there was a Tea Party.
I vividly remember back in 1952 when, as a 19-year-old kid too young to vote (you had to be 21 at that time), I sat in a polling place in Houston, Texas, from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., trying to help "Mr. Conservative," Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio, win the Republican nomination for president. It mostly ended up being a "family values" moment, when the only people to vote that day in my precinct were my mother and father.


Wait. Is he saying he supported Taftcare?
 
2014-04-19 06:08:20 PM  
I have a distinct feeling this guy's blog sucks.
 
2014-04-19 06:08:40 PM  
i1214.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-19 06:08:49 PM  
FTFA:

Richard A. Viguerie is chairman of ConservativeHQ.com and the author of Takeover: The 100-Year War for the Soul of the GOP and How Conservatives Can Finally Win It (WND Books, 2014), from which this excerpt was adapted.

My eyes fell out cuz they rolled so hard.
 
2014-04-19 06:10:42 PM  
Another hard hitting piece of *cough* journalism from Politico.
 
2014-04-19 06:13:03 PM  
tl;dr version

I'm old, I'm angry, and also LIBERALS!
 
2014-04-19 06:13:37 PM  
Ah, "not conservative enough," the perennial cause of teabagger failures
 
2014-04-19 06:16:00 PM  
FTFA 3rd page:

between 2010 and 2012 today's establishment Republican leaders did their best to alienate and marginalize the new conservative voting bloc of the Tea Party movement.

what the f*ck am I reading here!?


However, the arguments against a third party are the same now as they were when Bill Buckley and Ayn Rand first jousted over where conservatives should find their political home a half a century ago..........

.......Now is the time to redouble our efforts to finish the job we started more than 50 years ago and complete the takeover of the GOP.

In large measure we conservatives have accomplished Baroness Thatcher's first step; we are winning the argument. Now is the time to take over the Republican Party and start winning the vote.


OK I feel sick for some reason.
 
2014-04-19 06:19:14 PM  
In some ways, I was mocking the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party.
 
2014-04-19 06:23:13 PM  

The_Forensicator: Another hard hitting piece of *cough* journalism from Politico.


Was it not conservative enough for you?
 
2014-04-19 06:23:14 PM  
I thought the libs were creating the problems by pretending to be conservative, then espousing bigotry and religious nonsense to make conservatives look stupid.

I have a reasonably intelligent conservative acquaintance who actually believes this.
 
2014-04-19 06:23:50 PM  

Kittypie070: FTFA 3rd page:

between 2010 and 2012 today's establishment Republican leaders did their best to alienate and marginalize the new conservative voting bloc of the Tea Party movement.

what the f*ck am I reading here!?


However, the arguments against a third party are the same now as they were when Bill Buckley and Ayn Rand first jousted over where conservatives should find their political home a half a century ago..........

.......Now is the time to redouble our efforts to finish the job we started more than 50 years ago and complete the takeover of the GOP.

In large measure we conservatives have accomplished Baroness Thatcher's first step; we are winning the argument. Now is the time to take over the Republican Party and start winning the vote.

OK I feel sick for some reason.



Why?  Over "Baroness Thatcher"?
 
2014-04-19 06:25:42 PM  
i.huffpost.com
 
2014-04-19 06:25:54 PM  
Here's what the old geezer who is apparently nostalgic for the Strom Thurmonds, the Jesse Helms and the Moral Majority cockbags doesn't get: Their ideas and their candiates are too radical, too utterly dickish, and will never appeal to a majority of Americans. Not in a thousand years.

But please, go ahead and go even further to the Right, ya flaming nutjobs, and we'll just keep repeating the old mantra.

i28.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-19 06:26:05 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Kittypie070:

OK I feel sick for some reason.



Why?  Over "Baroness Thatcher"?


Er...yeah. Should I just have refrained from noticing at all?
 
2014-04-19 06:26:38 PM  

markfara: I thought the libs were creating the problems by pretending to be conservative, then espousing bigotry and religious nonsense to make conservatives look stupid.

I have a reasonably intelligent conservative acquaintance who actually believes this.


You may be taking some fringe clown with seemingly little background except a "book"/blog published by WND (sounds like he paid for it himself) a little too seriously.

Good thing Politico dug around and found this diamond in the rough.
 
2014-04-19 06:26:39 PM  
FTFA: The one means we had to get our message out, to share ideas and to bypass the establishment media filter was direct mail-the first and longest-lived form of new and alternative media.

He sounds like he sends out a lot o FW:FW:FW:'s
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-19 06:26:50 PM  
I applaud and approve of a substantial shift to the right for the GOP.
 
2014-04-19 06:30:42 PM  
The GOP has been hijacked. That's right, hijacked.

This is true, but not in the way I think you mean it.
 
2014-04-19 06:32:04 PM  
Why did I give that moron a click-view. I am dumber now for having read that dribble. How it is that people can make a career out of that level of stupidity makes me hopeful that any of my kids could have a career in journalism.

One is in fifth grade, one isn't potty trained yet, and the third has a month to his due date. Any one of the could start tomorrow.
 
2014-04-19 06:34:33 PM  

Kittypie070: FTFA 3rd page:

between 2010 and 2012 today's establishment Republican leaders did their best to alienate and marginalize the new conservative voting bloc of the Tea Party movement.

what the f*ck am I reading here!?


However, the arguments against a third party are the same now as they were when Bill Buckley and Ayn Rand first jousted over where conservatives should find their political home a half a century ago..........

.......Now is the time to redouble our efforts to finish the job we started more than 50 years ago and complete the takeover of the GOP.

In large measure we conservatives have accomplished Baroness Thatcher's first step; we are winning the argument. Now is the time to take over the Republican Party and start winning the vote.

OK I feel sick for some reason.


Here's what I love:  In the same piece he claims that they need to take BACK the party AND that they were never in control of the party and are the ones taking it over from what it traditionally was.
 
2014-04-19 06:36:19 PM  

Nadie_AZ: In some ways, I was a Tea Partier before there was a Tea Party.
I vividly remember back in 1952 when, as a 19-year-old kid too young to vote (you had to be 21 at that time), I sat in a polling place in Houston, Texas, from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., trying to help "Mr. Conservative," Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio, win the Republican nomination for president. It mostly ended up being a "family values" moment, when the only people to vote that day in my precinct were my mother and father.

Wait. Is he saying he supported Taftcare?


I'm not finding any record of a Republican primary in Texas in 1952, and what wikipedia says about the southern delegates for the RNC make me think this guy really was a tea bagger back then.

Also, as he goes on and on about being a lone Republican in Texas back then, I can't help but wonder if he missed Nixon's Southern Strategy memo as he laments about the change in the GOP since then.
 
2014-04-19 06:38:25 PM  
Apparently this guy is known as "the titan of direct mail marketing" and for that reason alone he deserves a punch in the balls, but this ridiculous screed earns him a combination ball punch.
 
2014-04-19 06:40:00 PM  
John Boehner is an elitist progressive now?

i565.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-19 06:41:42 PM  
I think he's attempting to claim that Randist libertarians are the actual true conservatives and....I mean that's just too stupid to go on with.
 
2014-04-19 06:42:05 PM  
Yes, please push your party even farther to the right. That'll save you! Start calling for a ban on Floride, abolishing the 19th amendment, and bringing back child labor.
 
2014-04-19 06:42:55 PM  
Sorry, my brains are slow today.
 
2014-04-19 06:43:25 PM  

Kittypie070: Benevolent Misanthrope: Kittypie070:

OK I feel sick for some reason.


Why?  Over "Baroness Thatcher"?

Er...yeah. Should I just have refrained from noticing at all?


No... just seems odd to me. The Queen, following tradition, offered her a life peerage so she could sit in the Lords after resigning the Commons. (You don't hear about that tradition much because many long-serving PMs are already peers, and others are too populist to accept such a thing).  So Thatcher's proper title in later life was Baroness.  I don't find it disturbing, it's just her title.

To my mind, there are other things in that quote far more sickening than Margaret Thatcher's proper form of address.
 
2014-04-19 06:44:40 PM  

whistleridge: Newsflash, asshole: Congresscritters, Presidents, and state officials are elected to represent and speak for ALL of the people, not just to champions single ideology. Goldwater got crushed, Ron Paul got ignored, and Santorum was turned into a frothy poo joke because they lost sight of that fact.

You're right: Romney wasn't hyper-conservative. He was milquetoast. Good hair, uninspiring message.

But he didn't lose because he wasn't conservative enough. He lost because 85% of the country don't think like the far right, and 51% of the country don't think like the moderate right. Going more right may make you feel better, but unless you can magically find 75,000,000 other people who think like you, you'll die a bitter, bitter man.


So you're saying there's a chance.

DumbandDumber.jpg
 
2014-04-19 06:53:18 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: How it is that people can make a career out of that level of stupidity makes me hopeful that any of my kids could have a career in journalism.


it's like a game of darts, but with hundreds of darts; articles are cheap. Bandwidth is cheap. What you do, is you hedge on every freaking viewpoint you can (all exxxtreme, of course) and cash out on the few that actually "stick" and then you refine that following.

it's all as cynical as you think it is.. or more so.
 
2014-04-19 06:53:39 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Kittypie070:

Er...yeah. Should I just have refrained from noticing at all?


No... just seems odd to me. The Queen, following tradition, offered her a life peerage so she could sit in the Lords after resigning the Commons. (You don't hear about that tradition much because many long-serving PMs are already peers, and others are too populist to accept such a thing).  So Thatcher's proper title in later life was Baroness.  I don't find it disturbing, it's just her title.

To my mind, there are other things in that quote far more sickening than Margaret Thatcher's proper form of address.


Yeah, I got no problem with Thatcher herself, it wasn't that she was mentioned, it was just that the guy seemed to be really impressed by the title and ....whatever.

*sigh*

Never mind.
 
2014-04-19 06:58:24 PM  
GOP: It's everybody's fault but mine.
 
2014-04-19 06:58:37 PM  
CTRL-F "gay"...nothing
CTRL-F "abortion"...nope
CTRL-F "minority"..."republicans will be the minority...." no.

So you're complaint is that with taxes at record lows, spending going up slower than inflation or the economy, and disproven supply-side lunatics still running the show despite having had 40 years of failure we  aren't conservative enough.

Look around old man!  You won!  The communists are capitalist!  Welfare is evil!  Food stamps are being hacked and chopped and Social Security is called a "ponzi scheme" by viable national candidates!  All the shiat we're in is because you got everything you wanted!  The only thing "conservative" that conservatives have been losing ground on since Carter (with a few exceptions during Clinton's tenure) is religiously-motivated bigotry.

Oh yeah, we passed a healthcare law, but it was the healthcare law that was proposed by conservatives as an alternative to something that might actually be "liberal".
 
2014-04-19 07:02:32 PM  

TheBigJerk: Oh yeah, we passed a healthcare law, but it was the healthcare law that was proposed by conservatives as an alternative to something that might actually be "liberal".


And then hysterically denounced by conservatives as socialism.
 
2014-04-19 07:02:56 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: GOP: It's everybody's fault but mine.


"I have a Bible in my home, I have a Bible in my home
If I don't read my soul will be lost ... nobody's fault but mine"

sounds like they managed to mess THAT up, too...

TheBigJerk: CTRL-F "gay"...nothing
CTRL-F "abortion"...nope
CTRL-F "minority"..."republicans will be the minority...." no.

So you're complaint is that with taxes at record lows, spending going up slower than inflation or the economy, and disproven supply-side lunatics still running the show despite having had 40 years of failure we  aren't conservative enough.

Look around old man!  You won!  The communists are capitalist!  Welfare is evil!  Food stamps are being hacked and chopped and Social Security is called a "ponzi scheme" by viable national candidates!  All the shiat we're in is because you got everything you wanted!  The only thing "conservative" that conservatives have been losing ground on since Carter (with a few exceptions during Clinton's tenure) is religiously-motivated bigotry.

Oh yeah, we passed a healthcare law, but it was the healthcare law that was proposed by conservatives as an alternative to something that might actually be "liberal".


Conservative to Liberal isn't a spectrum, it's a mobius strip. They become what they hate the most.

that's tragedy, folks!
 
2014-04-19 07:03:15 PM  

Kittypie070: Benevolent Misanthrope: Kittypie070:

Er...yeah. Should I just have refrained from noticing at all?

No... just seems odd to me. The Queen, following tradition, offered her a life peerage so she could sit in the Lords after resigning the Commons. (You don't hear about that tradition much because many long-serving PMs are already peers, and others are too populist to accept such a thing).  So Thatcher's proper title in later life was Baroness.  I don't find it disturbing, it's just her title.

To my mind, there are other things in that quote far more sickening than Margaret Thatcher's proper form of address.

Yeah, I got no problem with Thatcher herself, it wasn't that she was mentioned, it was just that the guy seemed to be really impressed by the title and ....whatever.

*sigh*

Never mind.


Ah.  Gotcha.  I thought the emphasis was yours.  (RTFA?  Are you NUTS??)

Yeah, it does strike me as odd that a "Real 'Muriken" would be so impressed by a peerage.  The Founding Fathers specifically avoided creating that, after all.
 
2014-04-19 07:03:50 PM  
My Dick leans to the left and doesn't shoot in the face without permission.

/Got nothin
 
2014-04-19 07:07:05 PM  

Kittypie070: Sorry, my brains are slow today.


Here, let me help. He's saying that the "Small Government/Economic Conservatives" are the true heart and soul of the Republican party and that the "Big Goverment/Establishment" Republicans have been riding roughshod over them for quite a while now, but instead of forming a third party, they should redouble their efforts to take over the Republicans because third parties never win and have no chance of making sweeping change.

/That's what I got out of it anyway
//Hope they finally do - need more "Live and let live" people in Washington.
 
2014-04-19 07:07:10 PM  

Wooly Bully: Apparently this guy is known as "the titan of direct mail marketing" and for that reason alone he deserves a punch in the balls, but this ridiculous screed earns him a combination ball punch.


He was a Tea Partier before the Tea Party existed and he was a spam master before the internet even existed. Right wing hipster?

/he was herpin' the derp before it was cool
 
2014-04-19 07:07:46 PM  
The GOP's problem is there are no longer enough angry white people to win national elections.  The southern strategy is dead.
 
2014-04-19 07:08:16 PM  

Oxygen_Thief: The GOP's problem is there are no longer enough angry white people to win national elections.  The southern strategy is dead.


I can only hope you are right.
 
2014-04-19 07:09:24 PM  
Interesting how he lauds both Barry Goldwater and the "Moral Majority."

Barry Goldwater on Jerry Falwell: "I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."

Also: "And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' "
Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981)

Source
 
2014-04-19 07:11:26 PM  

Wooly Bully: Apparently this guy is known as "the titan of direct mail marketing" and for that reason alone he deserves a punch in the balls, but this ridiculous screed earns him a combination ball punch.


Like finding out your Daughter is dating a spammer, WE DONT SERVE HIS KIND HERE.

/siriously, when people decide to make hard cash through corrupt means and prefer that the ends out-weigh those means, sort of expect we'll all forgive them.

/No, we dont. Lookin' at you, Actors, Anchormen, Marketers, Brokers...
//Lookin' at you.
 
2014-04-19 07:13:01 PM  
The author's whining about needing a party of freedoms is absurd. If his was a party about freedom, it would have LONG AGO supported blacks' freedom to be part of the economic and political processes, gay people's freedom to be married (or at least be left alone) and women's freedom to be paid the same as a man for doing the same work or to govern the biological processes of her body.

But it didn't. So it's irrelevant. STFU.
 
2014-04-19 07:13:36 PM  
media.giphy.com
 
2014-04-19 07:14:30 PM  
Canis, do ya really think they're "live and let live" types?

I gotta disagree with you on that bit, but I don't see them that way. I could be wrong so no biggy.

It's hookah time.

*fixes third hose on hookah for Benevolent Misanthrope*
 
2014-04-19 07:17:11 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Oxygen_Thief: The GOP's problem is there are no longer enough angry white people to win national elections.  The southern strategy is dead.

I can only hope you are right.


I think I am...the electoral map is in democrats favor.  The south-midwest states have bought into social conservative herpaderp.  The problem is these states no longer have the position of kingmaker because the rest of the country has moved on.  If the republicans want to win they need to ditch the social conservatives and embrace the libertarians. While they are equally insane, they tend not to care about enforcing Jesus on everyone, and hence will draw more votes.
 
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