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(YouTube) Video Saturday Cinema - Cross of Iron, 1977. James Coburn and Maximillien Schell star in this WW2 story about a German Sgt, and his glory-seeking commander. Sam Peckinpah directs   (youtube.com) divider line 18
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2014-04-19 12:00:07 PM  
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Saturday Cinema - Cross of Iron, 1977. James Coburn and Maximillien Schell star in this WW2 story about a German Sgt, and his glory-seeking commander. Sam Peckinpah directs.

The film focuses on the class conflict between a newly arrived, aristocratic Prussian officer who covets winning the Iron Cross and a cynical, battle-hardened infantry NCO. The screenplay was based on a 1956 German novel The Willing Flesh by Willi Heinrich.

Maximilian Schell is an aristocratic Prussian officer who applied for transfer from occupied France to front line duty in Russia so that he can win the Iron Cross. There was plenty of opportunity for glory. Many of us forget how bit the East Front was in WW2. The soviets had no ethical concern for the lives of their men and threw endless bodies into the meat grinder. Germany's political leadership was as fanatical about killing communists as they were in their bigotry.

Coolest of the cool tough guy James Coburn is the protagonist. He plays a war-weary sergeant who has to put up with this ding-dong.  James Mason and David Warner round out the cast.

Peckinpah was known for directing westerns in the mid-60s and rose to fame after directing the end-of-the-west film The Wild Bunch in 1969.

As fame was heaped upon him, his alcoholism worsened. Once he was introduced to cocaine by James Caan on the film Killer Elite, he became less of a director and more of an overseer of a bunch of second units that shot his films while he freaked out in his trailer.

Exteriors were shot on location in SFR Yugoslavia. They are notable for using a significant number of authentic tanks, equipment and weapons. Apparently the film is also a bit of a star as far as arms enthusiasts go. While some of the weapons may predate the actual calendar dates that they entered production and distribution, apparently many of the tanks and weapons are approximately accurate. However, Peckinpah makes a few basic errors that are maddening to watch. Absolutely no-one in the film has a military haircut. The Soviet planes that bomb German positions are clearly marked U.S. Navy aircraft. (Vought F4U Corsairs, apparently.)

How did it do?
This is a uber-violent nihilistic WW2 film of German fascists fighting communists and ends in a very clear anti-Viet Nam war statement. Audiences fed a 30-year-diet of America Won WW2(TM) didn't quite know to categorize the film. This and endless America's greatest victory films like Midway (which was better as a TV film) didn't help make. Finally, it launched the same spring as Star Wars.  he film did very well in Europe, as the science fiction film didn't make it overseas until much later in the year. It had the biggest box office takings in Germany since the Sound of Mucus.

According to actor Vadim Glowna, Peckinpah drank four whole bottles of whiskey or vodka during every day of shooting while sleeping approximately only 3 or 4 hours per night. The ending wasn't the original ending in the script. At the time the film had run out of money so Sam Peckinpah got James Coburn to improvise and ending that was shot in a single day. Coburn later returned to save Peckinpah's arse by taking over as director when -- yes -- behind schedule, over budget and in angry fights with the cast and crew -- yet another film was running out of time and cash in mid shoot.

I was unaware of this, but there was a sequel starring Richard Burton that sunk like a stone.

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2014-04-19 12:19:26 PM  
I don't get it. Is somebody streaming the movie, or is this just an FYI sort of thing?
 
2014-04-19 12:34:32 PM  
The banner says YouTube. Since I watched this thing years ago and have no desire to see any of it ever again, I'm not clicking to find out if the movie is there.
 
2014-04-19 03:01:05 PM  
Is this the one where one of the bad Germans has his dick bit off by the woman he forced to service him?
 
2014-04-19 03:02:56 PM  
Oops -- I guess that might be considered a spoiler...
 
2014-04-19 03:13:50 PM  
Awesome Movie is the definition of awesome movies!  Love me some SGT Steiner!~ When you look up what a real hollywood war movie should be about this comes in at the top of the list!
 
2014-04-19 03:37:14 PM  

gnosis301: I don't get it. Is somebody streaming the movie, or is this just an FYI sort of thing?


Saturday Cinema seems to be a mostly regular FARK feature put on by gaslight and is a thread about some movie that gaslight would like to discuss. It's fun for movie buffs.

I'm not quite sure the reasoning, but FARK doesn't link to the entire movie most of the time. In this case, I can't find Cross of Iron on youtube, but it's out there if you search for it at the various download sites.

cross of iron online free

I actually don't know what the scoop is with those download sites. Either their business model, or why they are allowed to serve up movies or at what point my ISP hates on me.

(I am especially curious about Vk and the Android Show Box app.)
 
2014-04-19 03:43:10 PM  
....pretty strong MEAT from Sam Peckinpaw!
 
2014-04-19 03:44:17 PM  
I've heard of this film but never got around to watching it, so I'll give it a try.

I wish there were more WW2 films from the German/Axis perspective. I used to love WW2 films when I was a kid, but after reading more about the war, especially the population/production superiority of the Allies, I started to get bored with them, especially American WW2 films. Barring some extraordinary events, the Germans  lost the war before it began. They were dwarfed by the population, resources, and production capabilities of the Allies. I think a major component of drama is that the protagonists/good guys are fighting against the odds facing a superior enemy force and, to me, it takes away from the impact of the film when the good guys vastly outnumber and outgun the bad guys.
 
2014-04-19 04:01:27 PM  

RoyBatty: I'm not quite sure the reasoning, but FARK doesn't link to the entire movie most of the time.


Sat Cinema is nothing other than my paltry attempt to pitch in. Sat Cinema started on TFD and yep, most of the time it went to full flicks on YouTube that were obscure enough that no-one gave a darn about. However, as it's on the video page, for obvious legal reasons, well no more direct links to full flicks.
 
2014-04-19 04:05:55 PM  

Enlightened Liberal: I've heard of this film but never got around to watching it, so I'll give it a try.

I wish there were more WW2 films from the German/Axis perspective. I used to love WW2 films when I was a kid, but after reading more about the war, especially the population/production superiority of the Allies, I started to get bored with them, especially American WW2 films. Barring some extraordinary events, the Germans  lost the war before it began. They were dwarfed by the population, resources, and production capabilities of the Allies. I think a major component of drama is that the protagonists/good guys are fighting against the odds facing a superior enemy force and, to me, it takes away from the impact of the film when the good guys vastly outnumber and outgun the bad guys.


I am pretty stupid about WWII, but my impression has been:

Germans with superior engineering, superior tanks, doing battle fairly close to home, and a huge head start.
Allies with more factories, but thousands of miles away and a very long logistics line.

Yes, if you want to annex most of Europe, you are a dummbkopf if you haven't the resources for it, but that said, watching you get your ass kicked in some tight situations doesn't make the story uninteresting.
 
2014-04-19 04:07:24 PM  

gaslight: RoyBatty: I'm not quite sure the reasoning, but FARK doesn't link to the entire movie most of the time.

Sat Cinema is nothing other than my paltry attempt to pitch in. Sat Cinema started on TFD and yep, most of the time it went to full flicks on YouTube that were obscure enough that no-one gave a darn about. However, as it's on the video page, for obvious legal reasons, well no more direct links to full flicks.


Keep on pitching in. I enjoy these threads greatly.
 
2014-04-19 04:49:04 PM  
The same Steiner that defies orders as Berlin falls and royally pisses off Hitler in the bunker?
 
2014-04-19 05:05:55 PM  
If you like war films, this is a pretty good one.
 
2014-04-19 05:13:01 PM  

ABQGOD: The same Steiner that defies orders as Berlin falls and royally pisses off Hitler in the bunker?


My favourite Hitler rant.
 
2014-04-19 07:36:45 PM  
It had the biggest box office takings in Germany since the Sound of Mucus.

Really?
 
2014-04-20 02:09:00 PM  
It's a good movie. Watched it years ago. Really quite good.
 
2014-04-20 10:39:21 PM  

Whiplash!!!: It's a good movie. Watched it years ago. Really quite good.


yup. That Captain Stransky is a real fool for thinking it was easy to get that cross of iron.
 
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