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(Courant Blogs)   Having solved all other problems, CT seeks to ban day care facilities from giving milk to children over 2   (courantblogs.com ) divider line
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2014-04-19 11:42:45 AM  
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John Schmidt ·  Top Commenter ·
More unnecessary government intrusion into areas that parents would best decide.


TFA:

The prohibitions do not apply to beverages, juice, or milk (including human breast milk) that a facility receives for a child in its care from the child's parent or guardian.

/I have no idea if this is a good rule, but day care facilities have to follow a ton of rules and many of these rules exist for damn good reasons
 
2014-04-19 12:30:11 PM  
Nice reading comprehension subtard
 
2014-04-19 12:32:20 PM  
Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?

Most children don't need whole milk after the age of 2, which is when most pediatricians recommend switching to a lower fat milk (unless the child is underweight).  My daughter was on the skinny side (12th percentile for weight), so I kept her on whole milk until she was 3.  My son was in the 80th percentile for weight, so I switched over to skim as soon as the pediatrician told me to (he was breastfed until he was 18 months, anyway).

This isn't a bad rule to follow, as long as there are caveats for children who have a medical reason to drink whole milk (which there are).
 
2014-04-19 12:32:51 PM  
Did subby rtfa?
 
2014-04-19 12:33:08 PM  
My cousin runs a day care and did that anyway. Don't see the big deal.
 
2014-04-19 12:35:19 PM  
Not in California; wait until the lobbyists for the dairy industry get warmed up; Money vs. govt intrusion and health nannies... now that's a battle I wanna watch.

/where's the popcorn
//who cares about the children when $$$ is at stake
///say no to x-Lrg sodas, but it is okay to buy 2 mediums
/V cause I know my roman numerals
 
2014-04-19 12:35:29 PM  
Whole milk is probably better for the kids than apple juice.
 
2014-04-19 12:38:15 PM  
I'm assuming this has something to do with child obesity, since the article didn't say?

Can I also assume that the kids can still chugalug juices of various sorts to their hearts' content?
 
2014-04-19 12:40:49 PM  
If all other problems must be solved before one can begin trying to solve any individual problem, then no problems would ever be solved.
 
2014-04-19 12:41:56 PM  
eh, Redbull.
 
2014-04-19 12:43:09 PM  

bborchar: Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?

Most children don't need whole milk after the age of 2, which is when most pediatricians recommend switching to a lower fat milk (unless the child is underweight).  My daughter was on the skinny side (12th percentile for weight), so I kept her on whole milk until she was 3.  My son was in the 80th percentile for weight, so I switched over to skim as soon as the pediatrician told me to (he was breastfed until he was 18 months, anyway).

This isn't a bad rule to follow, as long as there are caveats for children who have a medical reason to drink whole milk (which there are).


that is no longer the thought process.  The reason the doctors suggested going to skim was that it had reduced fat therefore it will cause less obesity, the reality is that the fat from the milk causes the drinker to fill quicker hence reducing the calorie consumption leading generally to a break even in calorie and fat consumption.  On top of that human bodies need fats for brain development so if you live an animal fat diet as a child you run the risk of a number of health issues.  On top of that doctors will never claim to be nutritionist yet they always chime in with what is best for food consumption.

The original food pyramid had zero health\food\nutrition experts involved in the creation and it was created with limited to zero correct data and despite recent understandings the modification of the pyramid does not change due to lobby interest.  When you also look at the current iteration of the human species you see that a very specific subset of them can even process food items with lactose, Euro descent.

Not trying to change people's minds or force people to shift their diets here just bringing to light a different and fairly widely held stance based on nutrition studies over the past decade.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-19 12:44:07 PM  
I gave Jolt Cola to a three year old once so I have an idea for a substitute beverage.
 
2014-04-19 12:47:05 PM  
We stopped giving our kids whole milk age 2.

/wife is pediatrician
 
2014-04-19 12:49:03 PM  
Beer fixes everything.
 
2014-04-19 12:49:34 PM  
As someone with a terrible lactose intolerance, this thread makes me smile and pulling my finger makes me toot.
 
2014-04-19 12:50:46 PM  
Giving giving?
 
2014-04-19 12:56:22 PM  
Lactose intolerance comes after weaning from human milk, I take it. So the dairy industry's obvious solution is to farm human milk too, perhaps mixing it with cow and/or goat milk, so a person might never actually have to be dietarily weaned. Human milk would still be nutritionally wonderful for an old or sick person wouldn't it, better than Ensure?

"Milk from contented wives."
 
2014-04-19 12:57:07 PM  
I'm forming a mental picture of subby. Room-temperature IQ, unibrow, weighs no less than 390 pounds, shoves entire chocolate cakes into his mouth with the heel of his hand.
 
2014-04-19 12:57:19 PM  
Early drinking of cow's milk increases the risk of type 1 diabetes. I wouldn't give my young child milk due to that. I think other states should follow CT's  example.
 
2014-04-19 01:00:00 PM  
Why does Connecticut hate toddler brain development?
 
2014-04-19 01:01:16 PM  
I wouldn't give giving milk to children either. If the participant was actually willing, God only knows where it came from.
 
2014-04-19 01:05:04 PM  
It's nice to see lawmakers getting their nutritional information from 1989.
 
2014-04-19 01:05:36 PM  
thank god i grew up when all this shiat wasn't an issue. dr spock was the quack for my generation and you know how well that turned out.

to be serious i and my friends all drank 4% milk and few were overweight let along obese. we also ate PB&j without ill effect.
 
2014-04-19 01:07:07 PM  

bborchar: Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?


Maybe not the only type available but the only type acceptable.  I grew up with a bit of a nutty mom who decided I was allergic to whole milk so the only milk I got growing up was skim milk.  Yes, you read that right.  Don't bother to try to make sense of it.  Obviously I wasn't allergic to milk of any type.  Anyway, when I finally got out in the world, I said, "Fark that noise!  I'm going to buy whole milk!"  Oh.  My.  God.  It has  flavor!  My next move was to switch from margarine to butter.  Again, Oh.  My.  God.  If those changes mean I knock a year or five off my life, so be it.
 
2014-04-19 01:07:19 PM  
I do wish the story provided any sort of "Why the government needed to ban this"
 
2014-04-19 01:07:57 PM  
1% milk tastes like water. I could understand restricting 3.25% milk but not 2% as well.
 
2014-04-19 01:08:11 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Comments section:

John Schmidt ·  Top Commenter ·
More unnecessary government intrusion into areas that parents would best decide.

TFA:

The prohibitions do not apply to beverages, juice, or milk (including human breast milk) that a facility receives for a child in its care from the child's parent or guardian.

/I have no idea if this is a good rule, but day care facilities have to follow a ton of rules and many of these rules exist for damn good reasons


And now you'll have inspectors carrying around fat content tests that will probably not even know how to properly use. But it didn't ban beverages so Mt Dew and Rockstars are perfectly fi e for now.
 
2014-04-19 01:09:12 PM  

zarker: My cousin runs a day care and did that anyway. Don't see the big deal.


Nor do I, but did this really need to make its way into a legislative session?

*shrugs*

Seems silly.
 
2014-04-19 01:22:59 PM  

bborchar: Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?

Most children don't need whole milk after the age of 2, which is when most pediatricians recommend switching to a lower fat milk (unless the child is underweight).  My daughter was on the skinny side (12th percentile for weight), so I kept her on whole milk until she was 3.  My son was in the 80th percentile for weight, so I switched over to skim as soon as the pediatrician told me to (he was breastfed until he was 18 months, anyway).

This isn't a bad rule to follow, as long as there are caveats for children who have a medical reason to drink whole milk (which there are).


Since always.  There is no other kind of milk.  Everything else is just nasty tasting white water.

Most humans need whole milk.  It's good for you and it tastes good.  I feel sorry for the lactose intolerant.

And it's a f*cking stupid rule to follow, it should be illegal to sell anything labeled as milk if it's not whole milk, and it should be illegal to serve it to anyone under 18.
 
2014-04-19 01:23:23 PM  

Savage Belief: Giving giving?


Subby likes giving.
 
2014-04-19 01:23:31 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Lactose intolerance comes after weaning from human milk, I take it. So the dairy industry's obvious solution is to farm human milk too, perhaps mixing it with cow and/or goat milk, so a person might never actually have to be dietarily weaned. Human milk would still be nutritionally wonderful for an old or sick person wouldn't it, better than Ensure?

"Milk from contented wives."


I am lactose intolerant and was formula fed as a baby, no mothers tit.
 
2014-04-19 01:23:41 PM  
Is it just me or does there seem to be an abundance of poorly written headlines today. Admins must be hungover
 
2014-04-19 01:23:42 PM  
Nothing better than a nice tall glass of giving milk.
 
2014-04-19 01:23:54 PM  

bborchar: Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?

Most children don't need whole milk after the age of 2


Most children don't need milk at all that isn't lactated by their mother.   Milk is for baby cows, not people.

That's not to say it isn't delicious, but the notion that whole milk is some kind of healthy thing is crazy and something put forward by the dairy marketers.   Four 8oz glasses a day is akin to eating eight slices of bacon a day, from a saturated fat standpoint.

And if the pork industry came out and said "Eat eight slices of bacon a day because it's good for you,"  people would lose their minds.
 
2014-04-19 01:24:38 PM  

Curious: thank god i grew up when all this shiat wasn't an issue. dr spock was the quack for my generation and you know how well that turned out.

to be serious i and my friends all drank 4% milk and few were overweight let along obese. we also ate PB&j without ill effect.


Yep. I live off whole milk. Always have and always will. We need to stop making people intolerant to the foods we consume like we do with germs and disinfecting everything around us. If you're a fatty, it's not the milk.
 
2014-04-19 01:26:44 PM  

theflatline: The One True TheDavid: Lactose intolerance comes after weaning from human milk, I take it. So the dairy industry's obvious solution is to farm human milk too, perhaps mixing it with cow and/or goat milk, so a person might never actually have to be dietarily weaned. Human milk would still be nutritionally wonderful for an old or sick person wouldn't it, better than Ensure?

"Milk from contented wives."

I am lactose intolerant and was formula fed as a baby, no mothers tit.


I never got the tit as a child (abused obviously) but no issues with milk.
 
2014-04-19 01:38:40 PM  
I am from Massachusetts, and I must laugh at our neighbors to the south. Then again, 1% milk is cheapest around here, and our 1% is pretty close to California's 2%, so...
 
2014-04-19 01:40:46 PM  
I guess that state just expresses itself differently.
 
2014-04-19 01:42:31 PM  
Pretty soon you're going to need a doctor's note to prove that food is medically necessary.
 
2014-04-19 01:45:22 PM  
Good. Govenrment conspiracy anyway.
 
2014-04-19 01:45:33 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Lactose intolerance comes after weaning from human milk, I take it.


And the bending of the grass causes the wind. Most people outgrow lactose tolerancenaturally. Only some Africans and Europeans maintain lactose tolerance past childhood
 
2014-04-19 01:45:37 PM  

jtown: bborchar: Since when did "Whole Milk" become the only type of milk available, subby?

Maybe not the only type available but the only type acceptable.  I grew up with a bit of a nutty mom who decided I was allergic to whole milk so the only milk I got growing up was skim milk.  Yes, you read that right.  Don't bother to try to make sense of it.  Obviously I wasn't allergic to milk of any type.  Anyway, when I finally got out in the world, I said, "Fark that noise!  I'm going to buy whole milk!"  Oh.  My.  God.  It has  flavor!  My next move was to switch from margarine to butter.  Again, Oh.  My.  God.  If those changes mean I knock a year or five off my life, so be it.


Indeed. After growing up with margarine, once I hit real butter I never looked back. I don't use that much, so when I do I want the real deal. Same with whole milk. Likewise, yogurt. Plain yogurt, but whole milk all the way. If I want anything added to it, I'll do it myself. Fat-free yogurt, what exactly is the point of that stuff?
 
2014-04-19 01:49:34 PM  
OMG WHO THE FARK CARES!
 
2014-04-19 01:56:10 PM  
The law appears to be fairly easy to get around.

The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to a facility providing human breast milk to a child under the care of such facility if such facility has received such breast milk from the parent or guardian of such child.


All the facility has to do, is get one of the parents to bring in some breast milk.  It doesn't have to be hers.  It then needs to provide it to that parent's kid.  The kid doesn't even need to drink it.  Once that condition is met, the provisions do not apply to that facility and it is able to provide whole milk for any who want it including the kid of the parent who brought in the breast milk.
 
2014-04-19 02:01:25 PM  

Luven: OMG WHO THE FARK CARES!


Is this you not caring?
 
2014-04-19 02:03:25 PM  
Damn, my generation at least drank 2%, and we didn't grow up as fat kids. 1% has a noticeably different flavor. While it's not as watery and thin as nonfat, it's weak enough that kids might not want to drink it.

And what about the vitamin D content in whole milk? Is that such a bad thing?
 
2014-04-19 02:06:15 PM  
www.abc.net.au
Taking milk from children?  Good.
 
2014-04-19 02:09:53 PM  
My FAS kid had a pretty grim prognosis, what with missing most of his cerebral cortex.  He is consistently in the 1-2% for growth, and the doctors said there isn't much hope for quality of life, make him comfortable, and enjoy him as long as you can.  We feed him a high, high, high fat diet, as much as he'll eat of bacon, sour cream, red meat, oily fish, nuts, milk, cheese and then anything else he wants.  Don't know if it made a difference or if the doctors were just preparing us the worst, but other than still being the scrawniest runt on the bus, he's on track to graduate with his age mates.

Brains and the rest of the neuro system need fat to finish developing after birth.
 
2014-04-19 02:12:30 PM  

elkboy: We stopped giving our kids whole milk age 2.

/wife is pediatrician


You really should stop sooner. Whole milk age 7 to 10 days is the usual limit.
 
2014-04-19 02:15:58 PM  
I don't really care about this. I suffer from Lactose Indifference.
 
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