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(Guardian)   The end is in sight, can Liverpool keep going to secure their 19th league title, can Man City stop choking, will Chelsea still stalk the leaders, can Fulham pull off the great escape? All this and more in your Weekend EPL Thread   (theguardian.com) divider line 537
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2014-04-21 03:11:40 PM  

dietbubba: Well crap.  That didn't take long


I tuned in two minutes late and missed the first goal. The second was pretty good though.
 
2014-04-21 03:13:58 PM  
I'm beginning to think my 3-0 prediction may be too low.
 
2014-04-21 03:15:17 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: dietbubba: Citeh fans had a banner saying Don't Sack Moyes

I'm looking forward to seeing it.


Men in Blazers just retweeted the photo

ADubs86: Well this game's over.


Yes it is
 
2014-04-21 03:15:17 PM  

ADubs86: Well this game's over.


Not so much that WBA looks so bad, but that City looks like they've spent all week drilling. This game looks like a passing drill.
 
2014-04-21 03:15:50 PM  

SmackLT: ADubs86: Well this game's over.

Not so much that WBA looks so bad, but that City looks like they've spent all week drilling. This game looks like a passing drill.


Well, well, well...
 
2014-04-21 03:16:36 PM  
Or...
 
2014-04-21 03:17:03 PM  
HOLD IT!
Graham Dorrans is scoring?
 
2014-04-21 03:17:31 PM  

ADubs86: Well this game's over.


West Brom refuses to get on the cart
 
2014-04-21 03:36:38 PM  
City was due for that one.
 
2014-04-21 03:38:46 PM  

SigmaAlgebra: City's badge always cracks me up. Adding a star for every league title as if it was the World Cup is just so small time. In most every other country, a club has to win 5-10 league titles before it can put a star on its crest, but I guess City is too massive for that.


the epl has no rule regarding that. 'pool does have five stars on certain jerseys, but that's for cl titles, not league.
 
2014-04-21 03:48:08 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: dietbubba: Citeh fans had a banner saying Don't Sack Moyes

I'm looking forward to seeing it.


From BBC's feed
news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2014-04-21 03:48:48 PM  

eagles95: Chicarito, there's a guy that needs a change of scenery and I HATE him. Has he done anything since coming over to ManU?


Won the Premier League twice. Helped his team reach the Champions League final. Scored 59 goals in 146 appearances. Is one of United's most likeable and popular players. Is the third highest goalscorer is his country's history.
 
2014-04-21 03:51:10 PM  

czetie: Utd have plenty of players who can hold (Cleverly, Fletcher, Carrick come immediately to mind). They lack players who can pick the ball up in midfield and run with it at their feet.

And for the record, I don't think Welbeck and Chicharito are similar players, but I do think they play in the same spaces and mostly go after the same opportunities, the loose balls and second chances around the six yard box.


So now you think Cleverley should be in the team? Fletcher didn't play until December, and hasn't exactly been great. Carrick has had a terrible season. United have been regularly overrun in midfield for years. Signing somebody with the aggression and physical presence of Fellaini (to play in central midfield) made perfect sense, except he's been technically woeful, whatever the opposite of physical is, and he is incredibly nasty.

Welbeck and Chicharito aren't similar, but they play in the same spaces and go after the same opportunities. So how would you describe them if you *did* think they were similar? For what it's worth, in my opinion Welbeck and Chicharito are about as polar opposite as possible. In basic terms, Welbeck has everything except finishing ability, Chicharito has nothing except finishing ability.
 
2014-04-21 03:53:24 PM  
Lightweight is probably the opposite of physical.

Love when these threads go to a second page.
 
2014-04-21 04:22:42 PM  
For such an exciting start, this game has really slowed down. I can't stop yawning.

Any update on Moyes? All the articles I'm seeing are about him being on the verge of unemployment, but nothing new coming out that I can find.
 
2014-04-21 04:23:57 PM  
the only thing better than the mess at united right now is the bungled way in which they're trying to "fix" it.
 
2014-04-21 04:25:16 PM  

689908: So now you think Cleverley should be in the team?

...

If you're just going to keep making up stuff that I didn't say, there's no point in trying to talk to you.So, we're done here.

And for the record, I don't think I've ever said that of anybody in the soccer threads before.
 
2014-04-21 04:44:14 PM  

czetie: 689908: So now you think Cleverley should be in the team? ...

If you're just going to keep making up stuff that I didn't say, there's no point in trying to talk to you.So, we're done here.

And for the record, I don't think I've ever said that of anybody in the soccer threads before.


Seems rational.

689908I like Tom Cleverley. Like  mostall of United's players, the current formation and style of play doesn't suit him.

czetieThat's generous of you. I don't particularly remember him setting the Thames on fire under the previous regime.
 
2014-04-21 05:02:47 PM  
RumsfeldsReplacementHonest question for Man U fans:  I always forget that you actually have Hernandez.  Why doesn't he play more?

czetieHe tends to play in the same space for the same opportunities as Welbeck, and Moyes prefers Welbeck because reasons.
 
2014-04-21 05:28:03 PM  

midpoint: In important domestic news, I made quesadillas and they were lovely. Nom. Nom. Nom.


I had sauteed chicken and organic sweet peas in a curry yogurt sauce on a bed of spring mix.
 
2014-04-21 05:48:09 PM  

LucklessWonder: midpoint: In important domestic news, I made quesadillas and they were lovely. Nom. Nom. Nom.

I had sauteed chicken and organic sweet peas in a curry yogurt sauce on a bed of spring mix.


Reheating last night's potato/bacon/cream torte.
 
2014-04-21 06:09:18 PM  

ADubs86: And here's the first article, thought the headline says he's going to be sacked, and the article says he's facing the sack. Take that how you wish.


Is he going to be replaced by a llama?
 
2014-04-21 06:36:55 PM  

sephjnr: ADubs86: And here's the first article, thought the headline says he's going to be sacked, and the article says he's facing the sack. Take that how you wish.

Is he going to be replaced by a llama?


www.whisperingspiritllamas.com
 
2014-04-21 08:29:17 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: socalnewwaver: HaywoodJablonski: Giggs is the odds-on favorite to be the next permanent manager. I find that very hard to believe.

this is the same group which picked moyes, you know that, right?

Sure, but at least Moyes had a track record of coaching in the EPL.


But Giggs has been with the team for 24 years. He knows the workings of the club better than anyone else available for the job.

I'm also thinking of Neil Lennon's succession as the manager of Celtic after Martin O'Neill stood down. Or, Souness with Rangers, back in the day.

Giggs may never have been the first team coach before, but he surely knows the team better than Moyes does. Player -> manager transitions happen, and, could Giggs be worse than Moyes? Remember how well Everton are doing at the moment.

/Classic MOTD: you can't win anything with kids. SAF did.
 
2014-04-21 08:35:49 PM  
 
2014-04-21 08:48:00 PM  
Man, that Tom Cleverley sure is a dick. Disappointing season, goes out and gets sh*tfaced after the Bayern loss, AND is partly the subject of two United fans arguing with one another in this thread.
 
2014-04-21 09:04:08 PM  

Killer Cars: Man, that Tom Cleverley sure is a dick. Disappointing season, goes out and gets sh*tfaced after the Bayern loss, AND is partly the subject of two United fans arguing with one another in this thread.


Well, if you consider me saying "he's a holding midfielder" and somebody else saying "so you want Cleverley in the team? what kind of idiot are you?" to be an argument, as opposed to, say, somebody talking completely at cross-purposes because he'd rather score a point than have a conversation, then...

...yeah, Cleverley is a dick.

Personally, I don't blame him for the drinking. After having to play Bayern with that setup, I would have gone out and gotten shiatfaced too. Heck, I only watched the game and I wanted to get shiatfaced.
 
2014-04-21 09:10:20 PM  

czetie: Personally, I don't blame him for the drinking. After having to play Bayern with that setup, I would have gone out and gotten shiatfaced too. Heck, I only watched the game and I wanted to get shiatfaced.


Oh, I don't care either way. It was just funny skimming the rest of the thread and seeing that, out of nowhere, what may or may not have been said about Tom Cleverley in the past is apparently really important and must be settled.

I kinda want to pick a fight with a fellow Liverpool fan over Lucas Leiva just to even the ridiculousness out.
 
2014-04-21 10:29:47 PM  

Killer Cars: czetie: Personally, I don't blame him for the drinking. After having to play Bayern with that setup, I would have gone out and gotten shiatfaced too. Heck, I only watched the game and I wanted to get shiatfaced.

Oh, I don't care either way. It was just funny skimming the rest of the thread and seeing that, out of nowhere, what may or may not have been said about Tom Cleverley in the past is apparently really important and must be settled.

I kinda want to pick a fight with a fellow Liverpool fan over Lucas Leiva just to even the ridiculousness out.


Go for it. Or maybe you could pick a fight over whether Suarez' talent is worth his shenanigans? I could use something fun and meaningless right now.

I watched the Liverpool game -- something I rarely do, but I'd far rather they lift the title than Citeh or Chelski, and frankly, the Liverpool/Man Utd rivalry is one of the best in the game, and I'd actually enjoy seeing both be title contenders at the same time again -- and later the Man Utd game, and the thing that really struck me is Liverpool's movement off the ball and ahead of the ball. The contrast with Utd, with everybody static, no appealing target, and inevitably a series of pointless sideways passes, was striking. Liverpool has a lot of players who can run with the ball and who will run without the ball. Utd really lacks that -- the closest they have is Januzaj, and for some reason he rarely gets 90 minutes.

But right now, my biggest concern is that Utd don't qualify for the last Europa League place and consequently screw up my rare chance of seeing them over here in the US in the summer.
 
2014-04-22 03:38:56 AM  
 
2014-04-22 06:58:35 AM  

Purple_Jack: That's Moyes officially gone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795


Came in here to post this.

Seems all of those reports yesterday saying he was going to get sacked imminently were correct. Ryan Giggs to take over as interim.
 
2014-04-22 07:15:15 AM  

ADubs86: Purple_Jack: That's Moyes officially gone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795

Came in here to post this.

Seems all of those reports yesterday saying he was going to get sacked imminently were correct. Ryan Giggs to take over as interim.


This ought to be worth a thread in its own right?
 
2014-04-22 07:28:06 AM  
czetie:This ought to be worth a thread in its own right?

Just dropped one.
 
2014-04-22 08:10:19 AM  
pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-04-22 11:02:28 AM  

czetie: Well, if you consider me saying "he's a holding midfielder" and somebody else saying "so you want Cleverley in the team? what kind of idiot are you?" to be an argument, as opposed to, say, somebody talking completely at cross-purposes because he'd rather score a point than have a conversation, then...


That's an absolutely f*cking extraordinary version of events. And I don't think I called you any names.
 
2014-04-22 11:03:15 AM  

czetie: there's no point in trying to talk to you.So, we're done here.


czetie: he'd rather score a point than have a conversation

 
2014-04-22 11:05:41 AM  

Purple_Jack: That's Moyes officially gone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795


I'll give Man Utd credit for this: they're not resting on their laurels. They could've said "we're going to give Moyes time to make things right" and that would've been justifiable considering it was still his 1st season and there are some players on the team who are past their prime.

But I think it was obvious that SAF farked this one up. He chose Moyes and Moyes wasn't qualified to take on that role. And maybe SAF knew that whomever replaced him would be in for a hard time and chose Moyes to be a jerk (and be honest, MU fans: SAF is a jerk). Now whomever takes over for Moyes doesn't have the SAF burden on him.

I've said in the past that this season should've always been viewed as a rebuilding year. If Moyes had just missed the UCL by finishing 5th, I doubt he gets sacked. But MU is going to end up in the same spot that Liverpool finished last season. The difference between the 2 situations is that we knew what Liverpool was going for. There was a direction they were going and we could see that (we just didn't expect to get to where we are so fast). Man Utd doesn't have that clear direction right now. Therefore, a change had to be made.
 
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