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(Abc.net.au)   Captain of capsized South Korean ferry who abandoned ship first while nearly 300 went under, is arrested, charged with negligence, violating maritime law and being an asshole   (abc.net.au) divider line 55
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2014-04-19 08:20:24 AM
Costa Concordia, part deux.
 
2014-04-19 08:20:46 AM
How about being a Schettino?
 
2014-04-19 08:22:32 AM

RexTalionis: Costa Concordia, part deux.


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2014-04-19 08:24:25 AM
Maybe they should ask North Korea about ideas for punishment - they're a creative bunch.

In the meantime, he can find out that Gangam style means something a bit different in prison.

/Ok Ok, trial first, there may be extenuating circumstances....but probably not.
 
2014-04-19 08:29:41 AM
Farking coward.
 
2014-04-19 08:30:52 AM
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-19 08:31:01 AM
Don't worry, Captain, you'll still have a possible career with Carnival cruise line after you get out of whatever hell hole they sentence you to.
 
2014-04-19 08:33:42 AM
after reading about the dona paz, seems like it's always an asshole captain
 
2014-04-19 08:36:13 AM
Wait til Putin discovers there's someone with a Russian sounding name and decides to invade South Korea to "free" others like them.

crooksandliars.com
 
2014-04-19 08:39:04 AM
You can charge someone with being an asshole now?

In theory this is good, but everybody is someone else's asshole.
 
2014-04-19 08:40:07 AM
This is why Jesus is my third mate.
 
2014-04-19 08:42:19 AM

Mister Peejay: You can charge someone with being an asshole now?

In theory this is good, but everybody is someone else's asshole.


When your assholiness endangers the lives of hundreds of people, and does kill a couple dozen (so far) it's not a surprise.
 
2014-04-19 08:44:55 AM
When I called to check in on my mother yesterday evening, she was boatching about this 'event'.  I finally just told her.. screw it, I wouldn't wait on anyone or do any stupid 'down with the ship' shiat, either!!!!  You're GOING to lose your damned job.. doesn't matter if sinking was due to a tremor the week before that caused a huge rock, wearing a Mexican sombrero, to stick straight up from floor of ocean, the stigma of such a thing means you're done at the wheel.  So screw those passengers and get your happy ass to safety!
Sure, you'll have to deal with a lot of BS, but better than freezing in the water, burning alive in the ship or getting your junk bit of by a shark! (or in the case of some of the farkers reading this, a minnow.. buwahahahaaa)
You think any of the captains of the big cruise liners that had major mechanical problems that resulted in huge fires kept their jobs.. when they had absolutely nothing at all, in any possible way, to do with the electrical shorts or engine problems? (I actually do not know if they did or not but know some articles made derogatory comments about captains/those in charge and about investigations into captains while others focused on the maintenance logs, like they should have).

/ok, rant over - tooooo many stories about this flooding every site and too much biatching about it from someone who isn't the least bit involved, but if she keeps at it, might wind up telling people she was by Monday... lol
//at least CNN stopped making up stories about flight 370 for a day... or a few hours at least.
 
2014-04-19 08:47:54 AM

MyNameIsMofuga: This is why Jesus is my third mate.


If Jesus was this guys third mate, perhaps it would have gone better - he apparently handed over control of the ship to his third mate while he ran for it. The passengers could at least have died drunk, in a sea of wine...
 
2014-04-19 08:51:10 AM
What did the five fingers say to the face?

www.abc.net.au

Man, that guy on the right is living the dream. Imagine how much more responsibility politicians/gov't officials would take for their actions if they were permitted to be biatchslapped by their constituents on a regular basis.
 
2014-04-19 09:05:10 AM
So they arrested him because instead of nearly 301 victim they have nearly 300 victims?
 
2014-04-19 09:06:13 AM
Capt. Sum Ting Wong is at it again.
 
2014-04-19 09:16:50 AM

TheMega: When I called to check in on my mother yesterday evening, she was boatching about this 'event'.  I finally just told her.. screw it, I wouldn't wait on anyone or do any stupid 'down with the ship' shiat, either!!!!  You're GOING to lose your damned job.. doesn't matter if sinking was due to a tremor the week before that caused a huge rock, wearing a Mexican sombrero, to stick straight up from floor of ocean, the stigma of such a thing means you're done at the wheel.  So screw those passengers and get your happy ass to safety!
Sure, you'll have to deal with a lot of BS, but better than freezing in the water, burning alive in the ship or getting your junk bit of by a shark! (or in the case of some of the farkers reading this, a minnow.. buwahahahaaa)
You think any of the captains of the big cruise liners that had major mechanical problems that resulted in huge fires kept their jobs.. when they had absolutely nothing at all, in any possible way, to do with the electrical shorts or engine problems? (I actually do not know if they did or not but know some articles made derogatory comments about captains/those in charge and about investigations into captains while others focused on the maintenance logs, like they should have).

/ok, rant over - tooooo many stories about this flooding every site and too much biatching about it from someone who isn't the least bit involved, but if she keeps at it, might wind up telling people she was by Monday... lol
//at least CNN stopped making up stories about flight 370 for a day... or a few hours at least.


Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.
 
2014-04-19 09:23:39 AM

LewDux: So they arrested him because instead of nearly 301 victim they have nearly 300 victims?


Because he has a duty of care to at least try to evacuate people, as captain of the ship. You don't have to give your life up heroically or go down with the ship, you *do* have to act responsibly and issue the proper orders for evacuation, and make sure they're being carried out before you abandon ship. Proper organization and responsibility could have saved a lot of lives here.
 
2014-04-19 09:24:53 AM

Ilmarinen: TheMega: When I called to check in on my mother yesterday evening, she was boatching about this 'event'.  I finally just told her.. screw it, I wouldn't wait on anyone or do any stupid 'down with the ship' shiat, either!!!!  You're GOING to lose your damned job.. doesn't matter if sinking was due to a tremor the week before that caused a huge rock, wearing a Mexican sombrero, to stick straight up from floor of ocean, the stigma of such a thing means you're done at the wheel.  So screw those passengers and get your happy ass to safety!
Sure, you'll have to deal with a lot of BS, but better than freezing in the water, burning alive in the ship or getting your junk bit of by a shark! (or in the case of some of the farkers reading this, a minnow.. buwahahahaaa)
You think any of the captains of the big cruise liners that had major mechanical problems that resulted in huge fires kept their jobs.. when they had absolutely nothing at all, in any possible way, to do with the electrical shorts or engine problems? (I actually do not know if they did or not but know some articles made derogatory comments about captains/those in charge and about investigations into captains while others focused on the maintenance logs, like they should have).

/ok, rant over - tooooo many stories about this flooding every site and too much biatching about it from someone who isn't the least bit involved, but if she keeps at it, might wind up telling people she was by Monday... lol
//at least CNN stopped making up stories about flight 370 for a day... or a few hours at least.

Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.


Indeed.  When you're in command of a vessel, the safety of everyone on board is your responsibility.  Period.  That includes when things go bad.  In fact, especially when things go bad.  And you know all this well before you ever reach that position, and it's reinforced upon assuming command.

That captain did exactly the opposite of what his position required, and he's going to rightfully pay for that.
 
2014-04-19 09:25:56 AM

TheMega: When I called to check in on my mother yesterday evening, she was boatching about this 'event'.  I finally just told her.. screw it, I wouldn't wait on anyone or do any stupid 'down with the ship' shiat, either!!!!  You're GOING to lose your damned job.. doesn't matter if sinking was due to a tremor the week before that caused a huge rock, wearing a Mexican sombrero, to stick straight up from floor of ocean, the stigma of such a thing means you're done at the wheel.  So screw those passengers and get your happy ass to safety!
Sure, you'll have to deal with a lot of BS, but better than freezing in the water, burning alive in the ship or getting your junk bit of by a shark! (or in the case of some of the farkers reading this, a minnow.. buwahahahaaa)
You think any of the captains of the big cruise liners that had major mechanical problems that resulted in huge fires kept their jobs.. when they had absolutely nothing at all, in any possible way, to do with the electrical shorts or engine problems? (I actually do not know if they did or not but know some articles made derogatory comments about captains/those in charge and about investigations into captains while others focused on the maintenance logs, like they should have).

/ok, rant over - tooooo many stories about this flooding every site and too much biatching about it from someone who isn't the least bit involved, but if she keeps at it, might wind up telling people she was by Monday... lol
//at least CNN stopped making up stories about flight 370 for a day... or a few hours at least.


Ugh. So you'd tell a ship packed with kids to stay in place while you jumped ship? Because why, you don't want competition for the life boats? I find it amazing you're willing to admit such cowardice and disregard for the lives that you (as captain of the ship) would be responsible for- even with anonymity on the internet.

/maybe she empathizes because she had a kid, and doesn't realize the kid is a sociopath
 
2014-04-19 09:27:48 AM

zarker: Mister Peejay: You can charge someone with being an asshole now?

In theory this is good, but everybody is someone else's asshole.

When your assholiness endangers the lives of hundreds of people, and does kill a couple dozen (so far) it's not a surprise.


Sounds like what you would call Scumbag Steve if he were elected pope.
 
2014-04-19 09:31:42 AM

maddermaxx: LewDux: So they arrested him because instead of nearly 301 victim they have nearly 300 victims?

Because he has a duty of care to at least try to evacuate people, as captain of the ship. You don't have to give your life up heroically or go down with the ship, you *do* have to act responsibly and issue the proper orders for evacuation, and make sure they're being carried out before you abandon ship. Proper organization and responsibility could have saved a lot of lives here.


Exactly.  Someone on the crew ordered the pax to remain in place instead of reporting to their muster/lifeboat stations.  If it was the captain's order, he's going to pay for that.  If it was someone else's order, the captain had a duty to cancel that order and issue the correct one.

He really failed on many levels here, starting with the fact that he wasn't on the bridge in restricted/near shore waters.
 
2014-04-19 09:35:37 AM
that farker is rationalizing this somehow?  He thinks the dangers of people in life-vests in the water was greater than keeping them on a sinking ship that's rolling over?  wow...
 
2014-04-19 09:38:34 AM

TheMega: (wall of BS)

LewDux: So they arrested him because instead of nearly 301 victim they have nearly 300 victims?


See?  Keep it short and sweet.  Much easier.

Anyhoo, criminal negligence sounds right, other charges because that's how the legal system works.  He had a job, he didn't do his job, people died because he didn't do his job.
 
2014-04-19 09:39:07 AM

Maul555: that farker is rationalizing this somehow?  He thinks the dangers of people in life-vests in the water was greater than keeping them on a sinking ship that's rolling over?  wow...


At least he didn't claim he tripped and fell into the lifeboat. There's that.
 
2014-04-19 09:45:40 AM

Ilmarinen: Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.


To continue for a bit, the captain had a responsibility, which he didn't take. He told the passengers to stay where they were and did't say they should put on life jackets, while the ship was capsizing. Then he was the first to get off? Vada a bordo, cazzo!

He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.
www.straitstimes.com
hot pic/hero

He could also follow the example of the vice principal, who hanged himself with his belt out of shame.
 
2014-04-19 09:51:13 AM

Ilmarinen: Ilmarinen: Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.

To continue for a bit, the captain had a responsibility, which he didn't take. He told the passengers to stay where they were and did't say they should put on life jackets, while the ship was capsizing. Then he was the first to get off? Vada a bordo, cazzo!

He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.
[www.straitstimes.com image 615x346]
hot pic/hero

He could also follow the example of the vice principal, who hanged himself with his belt out of shame.


No.... He needs to answer a bunch of questions first.   Let him kill himself after that.
 
2014-04-19 09:53:45 AM

Maul555: Ilmarinen: Ilmarinen: Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.

To continue for a bit, the captain had a responsibility, which he didn't take. He told the passengers to stay where they were and did't say they should put on life jackets, while the ship was capsizing. Then he was the first to get off? Vada a bordo, cazzo!

He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.
[www.straitstimes.com image 615x346]
hot pic/hero

He could also follow the example of the vice principal, who hanged himself with his belt out of shame.

No.... He needs to answer a bunch of questions first.   Let him kill himself after that.


Oooh can we have some waterboarding while he answers the questions?
 
2014-04-19 09:53:56 AM
When the fark did this happen? American media is supposed to be full of "if it bleeds, it leads" and this quietly slips below the waters.
 
2014-04-19 10:01:12 AM

zarker: Maul555: Ilmarinen: Ilmarinen: Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.

To continue for a bit, the captain had a responsibility, which he didn't take. He told the passengers to stay where they were and did't say they should put on life jackets, while the ship was capsizing. Then he was the first to get off? Vada a bordo, cazzo!

He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.
[www.straitstimes.com image 615x346]
hot pic/hero

He could also follow the example of the vice principal, who hanged himself with his belt out of shame.

No.... He needs to answer a bunch of questions first.   Let him kill himself after that.

Oooh can we have some waterboarding while he answers the questions?


rofl... yes
 
2014-04-19 10:01:56 AM

wildcardjack: When the fark did this happen? American media is supposed to be full of "if it bleeds, it leads" and this quietly slips below the waters.


Too soon, man, too soon.
 
2014-04-19 10:02:57 AM

Maul555: that farker is rationalizing this somehow?  He thinks the dangers of people in life-vests in the water was greater than keeping them on a sinking ship that's rolling over?  wow...


A case can be made for not telling people to jump into the cold water.  Not getting the people below decks up on deck and in life vests before the power went out and the ship rolled is inexcusable.
 
2014-04-19 10:13:39 AM

Ilmarinen: Ilmarinen: Gods forbid you try to help the children get to safety.

To continue for a bit, the captain had a responsibility, which he didn't take. He told the passengers to stay where they were and did't say they should put on life jackets, while the ship was capsizing. Then he was the first to get off? Vada a bordo, cazzo!

He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.
[www.straitstimes.com image 615x346]
hot pic/hero

He could also follow the example of the vice principal, who hanged himself with his belt out of shame.


Goddamnit so much.   Maybe the Drowned God will accept the Captain as a sacrifice, and return the cute young brave girl in exchange.

/willing to chain the captain up and chuck him in the ocean
//it's worth a try, and nothing of value would be lost.
 
2014-04-19 10:14:10 AM
The cowardice of the third-world mentality has seeped into the American left, I see.  How can anyone defend this negligent coward?
 
2014-04-19 10:21:09 AM

mercator_psi: What did the five fingers say to the face?

[www.abc.net.au image 350x234]

Man, that guy on the right is living the dream. Imagine how much more responsibility politicians/gov't officials would take for their actions if they were permitted to be biatchslapped by their constituents on a regular basis.


It's the true spirit of democracy and equality among men.
 
2014-04-19 11:11:37 AM

mercator_psi: What did the five fingers say to the face?

[www.abc.net.au image 350x234]

Man, that guy on the right is living the dream. Imagine how much more responsibility politicians/gov't officials would take for their actions if they were permitted to be biatchslapped by their constituents on a regular basis.


Check out video of South Korean parliament proceedings sometimes. Say what you will about divisiveness in our congress, but at least fistfights between the Republicans and Democrats are rare. Can't say the same for rivals in South Korea!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-19 11:24:33 AM

TheMega: When I called to check in on my mother yesterday evening, she was boatching about this 'event'.  I finally just told her.. screw it, I wouldn't wait on anyone or do any stupid 'down with the ship' shiat, either!!!!  You're GOING to lose your damned job.. doesn't matter if sinking was due to a tremor the week before that caused a huge rock, wearing a Mexican sombrero, to stick straight up from floor of ocean, the stigma of such a thing means you're done at the wheel.  So screw those passengers and get your happy ass to safety!
Sure, you'll have to deal with a lot of BS, but better than freezing in the water, burning alive in the ship or getting your junk bit of by a shark! (or in the case of some of the farkers reading this, a minnow.. buwahahahaaa)
You think any of the captains of the big cruise liners that had major mechanical problems that resulted in huge fires kept their jobs.. when they had absolutely nothing at all, in any possible way, to do with the electrical shorts or engine problems? (I actually do not know if they did or not but know some articles made derogatory comments about captains/those in charge and about investigations into captains while others focused on the maintenance logs, like they should have).


He could have given the abandon ship order before he abandoned ship.  That would have been thoughtful and it's kind of traditional.
 
2014-04-19 11:47:33 AM
Can't recall the name of the show, it did breakdowns on these events.

The tendency of these things are usually the captain thinking I have control, it isn't a  good situation, I can fix this.
Not good, but I can still fix this, no need to call an evacuation just yet.
We might need to evacuate....Did they hear me call that evacuation clearly?
Oh shiat, I am out of here.
 
2014-04-19 11:57:23 AM
So, he sounds perfect for Carnival Cruise Lines
 
2014-04-19 12:15:18 PM
Make him walk the plank then keel-haul him.
 
2014-04-19 12:22:10 PM

RexTalionis: Costa Concordia, part deux.


No then he would have been promoted.
 
2014-04-19 12:50:27 PM

maddermaxx: LewDux: So they arrested him because instead of nearly 301 victim they have nearly 300 victims?

Because he has a duty of care to at least try to evacuate people, as captain of the ship. You don't have to give your life up heroically or go down with the ship, you *do* have to act responsibly and issue the proper orders for evacuation, and make sure they're being carried out before you abandon ship. Proper organization and responsibility could have saved a lot of lives here.


Not to mention there were reports of him drinking at the time.  He denies it, but of course he would.
 
2014-04-19 01:00:13 PM
You know I don't think he's even done killing people, indirectly.

The people that followed instructions are the ones that died, because they were sheltering below decks (out of the way) instead of panicking and running around trying to escape.  Everyone, including the people who will be riding the next boat that sinks (bad things happen, entropy always wins) and they will have a harsh object lesson in the back of their minds saying, "don't trust the instructions of the captain, he'll leave you there to die."

The next time a boat sinks there will be people disobeying, and they will die or get other people killed because of it.
 
2014-04-19 01:28:29 PM
PunGent:

Goddamnit so much.   Maybe the Drowned God will accept the Captain as a sacrifice, and return the cute young brave girl in exchange.

But how would we know this girl's honor had not the gods gifted her such a noble deed to do?

Don't try to take honor from the hands of the dead. It demeans them.
 
2014-04-19 01:32:31 PM
he was just following the Monty Python rules of abandoning vessels
 
2014-04-19 01:39:19 PM
This is so wrong! It's South KOLEAN FELLY!
 
2014-04-19 02:23:00 PM
I'd call him a rotten yellow bastard but I'd be afraid someone would mistake what i meant.
 
2014-04-19 02:33:44 PM

Ilmarinen: He should have acted more like his 22-year-old underling Park Ji Young, who sacrificed her own life to save others.


RIP
i.imgur.com
Park Ji-sung



/sorry
 
2014-04-19 03:52:59 PM

TheBigJerk: You know I don't think he's even done killing people, indirectly.

The people that followed instructions are the ones that died, because they were sheltering below decks (out of the way) instead of panicking and running around trying to escape.  Everyone, including the people who will be riding the next boat that sinks (bad things happen, entropy always wins) and they will have a harsh object lesson in the back of their minds saying, "don't trust the instructions of the captain, he'll leave you there to die."

The next time a boat sinks there will be people disobeying, and they will die or get other people killed because of it.


That's terrible. And right on the money.
 
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