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(Huffington Post)   Wait, let me get this straight. You're saying that a TV show... about a psychic who talks to spirits connected with convicted murderers...is not particularly accurate? Are you sure about that? Because it looks TOTALLY legit to me   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 42
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2014-04-18 05:27:51 PM
Ask them where the loot is hidden
 
2014-04-18 05:41:49 PM
I don't know how accurate it is but the girl who looks like Alicia Silverstone is hot. Spenser is kind of obnoxious though.
 
2014-04-18 05:50:47 PM
Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead known as cold reading.

Someone has no idea what cold reading is.
 
2014-04-18 05:53:02 PM
Fun Fact: Drag queens wear big wigs to make their face look smaller and more feminine.
i1.huffpost.com

/Also, what a farkin' morbid vulture of bullshiat.
 
2014-04-18 05:53:33 PM

fusillade762: Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead known as cold reading.

Someone has no idea what cold reading is.
Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead bilking rubes out of their money known as cold reading.


There, that's better.
 
2014-04-18 05:54:13 PM
Stupidity is real, non-believers.
 
2014-04-18 06:42:34 PM

fusillade762: Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead known as cold reading.

Someone has no idea what cold reading is.


To be fair, the deceased become pretty cold within a couple of hours of death.
 
2014-04-18 07:49:20 PM

fusillade762: Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead known as cold reading.

Someone has no idea what cold reading is.


Oh, I don't know.  This seems about right:

Cold reading involves asking leading questions or making general statements that can apply to anyone.

 Although that's not a complete description of the extant to which CR is cruel asshattery
 
2014-04-18 09:53:28 PM
you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.
 
2014-04-18 10:18:20 PM

namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.


Obviously I haven't watched all reality shows but being a film geek, I thought "Face=Off" would be decent. It started out okay, with some actually talented make up artists but some network suit thought it needed more drama so they added more crying and in-fighting so it sucked like the rest of them.
 
2014-04-18 11:52:06 PM
Cold beer, a book....I got Cold Reading...

Sounds like a heartless TV show
 
2014-04-18 11:54:41 PM

namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.


The fake Prince Harry dating show coming soon to FOX may set a new bar for offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Xgo5HKrrA
 
2014-04-19 12:08:25 AM
When James Randi dies, I want him to come back and haunt this chick.

And by haunt, I mean convince her that ghosts and spirits don't exist.
 
2014-04-19 12:08:29 AM
I know, you know, that I'm not telling the truth,
I know, you know, they just don't have any proof,
Embrace the deception, Lean how to bend,
Your worst inhibitions will PSYCH you out in the end
 
2014-04-19 12:26:07 AM
If you believe in psychics, I predict that you will lose a lot of money.
 
2014-04-19 12:43:46 AM

Mugato: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

Obviously I haven't watched all reality shows but being a film geek, I thought "Face=Off" would be decent. It started out okay, with some actually talented make up artists but some network suit thought it needed more drama so they added more crying and in-fighting so it sucked like the rest of them.


It must have been during the early seasons, because I started watching it lately and it is generally free of most of the usually reality show crap. Occasionally someone gets emotional or some people get pissed off at each other, but overall everyone is pretty cool to one another most of the time and there isn't a lot of cattiness. Hell, in one episode some guy hurt himself and the other contestants opened and clean his molds to help him out while he was getting stitched up. The only thing that irks me is the annoying commercial break before the reveal of the winners, which just gets annoying.
 
2014-04-19 12:51:31 AM

Mugato: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

Obviously I haven't watched all reality shows but being a film geek, I thought "Face=Off" would be decent. It started out okay, with some actually talented make up artists but some network suit thought it needed more drama so they added more crying and in-fighting so it sucked like the rest of them.


I feel the same way about "Ink Master".
 
2014-04-19 01:18:42 AM

12349876: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

The fake Prince Harry dating show coming soon to FOX may set a new bar for offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Xgo5HKrrA


Oddly enough I was going to say get the lights but thought....nope, we can sink lower. With James Cameron distracted for a few years, we can just get dropping that bar.
 
2014-04-19 01:18:58 AM
If she has "solved" so many cases, I'm sure she can provide a list, right? RIGHT?
 
2014-04-19 01:33:01 AM

12349876: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

The fake Prince Harry dating show coming soon to FOX may set a new bar for offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Xgo5HKrrA


Wow.  Just....wow.
 
2014-04-19 02:00:07 AM
Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud. What, are they worried the dead will come back and deny what she said? If it's just about that, then sure, go for it. But to solve crimes? No, that's strictly fiction.

/Misses pineapples.
 
2014-04-19 02:06:56 AM

Shadowtag: Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud. What, are they worried the dead will come back and deny what she said? If it's just about that, then sure, go for it. But to solve crimes? No, that's strictly fiction.

/Misses pineapples.


If you claim to talk to the dead, and take money, but cannot prove you are doing it... you are committing fraud.  It's a pity that apparently law enforcement can't be arsed to crack down on these people just because they claim to be doing it "for entertainment purposes".  They prey on people when they're vulnerable and desperate, and are no better than those who sell $6000 vacuums to half-senile senior citizens (also "technically" legal).
 
2014-04-19 02:10:31 AM

Shadowtag: Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud.


It's more profitable if it doesn't bring closure.

I had a brother who committed suicide forty years ago. My eldest sibling, a sister, refused to accept the fact that it was suicide.

Over these last four decades, she has spent a lot of time, effort, and money with psychics telling her they can *almost* hear who the murderers were... Almost... Yes... he's telling us it was a murder, he is in a state of great unrest, trying to tell us who the murderers were.... Yes... It was a gang... It might have had to do with drugs, or... wait, no, it was something he saw that he wasn't supposed to have seen... Does the name "John" or "Mark" mean anything to you?

She and I finally stopped talking a couple of years ago because of it.
 
2014-04-19 03:18:58 AM
"But at the first meeting, [Monroe] said, 'Your mom said you need to slow down.' I had just gotten a speeding ticket that day."

This woman sounds amazing. Maybe she should write horoscopes.
 
2014-04-19 05:10:04 AM

Ishkur: When James Randi dies, I want him to come back and haunt this chick.

And by haunt, I mean convince her that ghosts and spirits don't exist.


He should haunt the guy whom his boyfriend committed identity fraud against which allowed him to stay illegally in the US for 20+ years first, but I just think our "defenders of truth" should be held to a higher standard, I guess.
 
2014-04-19 05:41:13 AM
I LOVE this show. Exactly how I pictured Easter.
 
2014-04-19 05:49:49 AM
Investigation Discovery used to be good but nearly every show now is just reenactments and training for women against creepy men
 
2014-04-19 07:08:17 AM

Savage Belief: Mugato: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

Obviously I haven't watched all reality shows but being a film geek, I thought "Face=Off" would be decent. It started out okay, with some actually talented make up artists but some network suit thought it needed more drama so they added more crying and in-fighting so it sucked like the rest of them.

I feel the same way about "Ink Master".


My wife and I watch Ink Master just to watch the tattooing and fast forward through all the reality show garbage. You can blow through an episode in like 25 minutes that way. It's just flash challenge to main piece. I can't watch it otherwise.
We also skip the part where the people talk about who has the worst tattoo. It's just too painful. Everyone who has enough tattoos has some bad ones, but getting called out on it right when it's new is rough.
 
2014-04-19 07:34:16 AM

fusillade762: Monroe uses a technique of speaking with the dead known as cold reading.

Someone has no idea what cold reading is.


If she actually  calls it cold reading I have to give her a point or two for having balls big enough to shift the planet's solar orbit several meters.  I think it's just the article's writer farking up for a bit, though, since he describes it pretty coherently a paragraph later.

Cold reading is literally the laziest magic trick in existence, it's  incredibly easy to get someone to do every last bit of the work for you-- they're already doing the setup for you just by showing up, you say some random crap and they'll do the effect/reveal for you too.  It's so easy that people have been known to occasionally pull it  by accident and actually believe they had a 'psychic moment' (not the magicians like the chick in TFA, it's obviously not repeatable without becoming obvious so people that claim to have a gift worthy of taking your money know what they're doing), and the trick has been done by  horses.

Note that horses don't  fall for the trick, they can only perform it.  Because the trick is being done by the  audience, and this is pretty much a human-specific mental deficiency, another one of those backfires of our amped up pattern recognition and the use of willing suspension of disbelief in communication.

// The most famous, but far from the only, cold-reading horse is Clever Hans:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans .

// If you're not gonna be a moron about it and go babbling about spirits or whatever it's actually a perfectly legit party trick, good for enhancing social conversations and so on.  A lot of salesmen and negotiators are pretty good at it too, so it's not like cold reading has no legitimate applications.
 
2014-04-19 07:43:33 AM
She knows
I know
that she's not telling the truth.
 
2014-04-19 08:04:11 AM
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"Aw, geeez, not this shiat again."
 
2014-04-19 08:20:39 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-19 08:28:24 AM
What is it about cable TV? Every time a decent network shows up, it lasts about a year before this kind of crap shows up. ID was one of the last channels I still watch with my girlfriend, even though it features too many "soft porn" murder shows(I'm lookin' at you Scorned, Wives with Knives, etc.). TLC, Discovery, History, National Geographic, Animal Planet(Mermaids!? WTF?) and even the Science channel has fallen to shiat like Close Encounters and Through the Wormhole(For shame Mr. Freeman). Now ID is going to show "psychics". Is there a conspiracy to keep anything that's actually educational as marginalized as possible? Grrrr

/rant off
 
2014-04-19 08:43:39 AM
I saw in the paper the "Long Island Medium" was just in town here and completely sold out our theater.   I've been to some really good shows there (broadway tours, Lyle Lovett/John Hiatt) that haven't sold out.     God damn farking people.
 
2014-04-19 10:11:31 AM

namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.


You spelled entertaining wrong.
 
2014-04-19 10:13:13 AM

Mugato: namatad: you are offended by THIS reality show or all reality shows?
Because they all are pretty offensive.

Obviously I haven't watched all reality shows but being a film geek, I thought "Face=Off" would be decent. It started out okay, with some actually talented make up artists but some network suit thought it needed more drama so they added more crying and in-fighting so it sucked like the rest of them.


Hahahaha, what? Why are you talking about Face-Off.


/rhetorical
//not rhetorical.exchange period for question mark
///seriously, why?
 
2014-04-19 10:25:17 AM
At what point do they have sex with Whoopi Goldberg?
 
2014-04-19 11:04:40 AM
Well I for one remain impressed by the ability of these folks to use other peoples most intimate and painful memories and feelings, and use them to sell soap and boner pills!
It shows just how much they think your innermost pain is worth!
 
2014-04-19 12:25:35 PM

OhioKnight: She knows
I know
that she's not telling the truth.


Damn you. I love that show but absolutely loathe the theme, and now it's in my head.

Also, anyone who claims to be psychic is either a thief or insane.
 
2014-04-19 06:35:00 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Shadowtag: Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud.

It's more profitable if it doesn't bring closure.

I had a brother who committed suicide forty years ago. My eldest sibling, a sister, refused to accept the fact that it was suicide.

Over these last four decades, she has spent a lot of time, effort, and money with psychics telling her they can *almost* hear who the murderers were... Almost... Yes... he's telling us it was a murder, he is in a state of great unrest, trying to tell us who the murderers were.... Yes... It was a gang... It might have had to do with drugs, or... wait, no, it was something he saw that he wasn't supposed to have seen... Does the name "John" or "Mark" mean anything to you?

She and I finally stopped talking a couple of years ago because of it.


Exactly.  Such behavior perpetuates the offense against the victim by taking advantage of their vulnerability.  It's the lowest of the low, and these people should be arrested for fraud.

This isn't free speech and it isn't mere entertainment - that's not how they're presenting it to their victims at all.  So why aren't they arrested?  If you conned someone into giving you money by means other than psychic demonstrations, you'd be arrested.  But psychic demonstrations are a con too - why aren't they arrested?  I seriously want someone to explain that to me.
 
2014-04-19 08:42:43 PM

karmachameleon: Lenny_da_Hog: Shadowtag: Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud.

It's more profitable if it doesn't bring closure.

I had a brother who committed suicide forty years ago. My eldest sibling, a sister, refused to accept the fact that it was suicide.

Over these last four decades, she has spent a lot of time, effort, and money with psychics telling her they can *almost* hear who the murderers were... Almost... Yes... he's telling us it was a murder, he is in a state of great unrest, trying to tell us who the murderers were.... Yes... It was a gang... It might have had to do with drugs, or... wait, no, it was something he saw that he wasn't supposed to have seen... Does the name "John" or "Mark" mean anything to you?

She and I finally stopped talking a couple of years ago because of it.

Exactly.  Such behavior perpetuates the offense against the victim by taking advantage of their vulnerability.  It's the lowest of the low, and these people should be arrested for fraud.

This isn't free speech and it isn't mere entertainment - that's not how they're presenting it to their victims at all.  So why aren't they arrested?  If you conned someone into giving you money by means other than psychic demonstrations, you'd be arrested.  But psychic demonstrations are a con too - why aren't they arrested?  I seriously want someone to explain that to me.


My guess is maybe in some sort of very small print of something the people sign to have these readings done they say "for entertainment purposes only".
 
2014-04-19 09:45:21 PM

dletter: karmachameleon: Lenny_da_Hog: Shadowtag: Technically it can bring closure, but that doesn't mean it isn't fraud.

It's more profitable if it doesn't bring closure.

I had a brother who committed suicide forty years ago. My eldest sibling, a sister, refused to accept the fact that it was suicide.

Over these last four decades, she has spent a lot of time, effort, and money with psychics telling her they can *almost* hear who the murderers were... Almost... Yes... he's telling us it was a murder, he is in a state of great unrest, trying to tell us who the murderers were.... Yes... It was a gang... It might have had to do with drugs, or... wait, no, it was something he saw that he wasn't supposed to have seen... Does the name "John" or "Mark" mean anything to you?

She and I finally stopped talking a couple of years ago because of it.

Exactly.  Such behavior perpetuates the offense against the victim by taking advantage of their vulnerability.  It's the lowest of the low, and these people should be arrested for fraud.

This isn't free speech and it isn't mere entertainment - that's not how they're presenting it to their victims at all.  So why aren't they arrested?  If you conned someone into giving you money by means other than psychic demonstrations, you'd be arrested.  But psychic demonstrations are a con too - why aren't they arrested?  I seriously want someone to explain that to me.

My guess is maybe in some sort of very small print of something the people sign to have these readings done they say "for entertainment purposes only".


I'm sure that's exactly it (in fact I know it is) but I think that sucks; the laws should be written to eliminate that kind of loophole, or make it so that it isn't simply "small print" - make them put it in a big banner above their door.  The people paying the psychics are not taking it as mere entertainment, and let's be frank, most psychics don't present it that way either.  It's a total con.
 
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