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(Guardian)   Edward Snowden: "I've decided that I no longer want to live in Russia...Wait Let me rephrase that--I no longer want to RESIDE in Russia"   (theguardian.com) divider line 162
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2014-04-18 03:46:46 PM
If he was more concerned about holding Putin accountable, he probably should've added a followup while he was on the air instead of writing his followup on a website which no Russians will be reading.
 
2014-04-18 03:57:15 PM
Step 1: Ask pre-approved softball question to a dictator whom you sold your freedom too.
Step 2: Get pre-approved answer.
Step 3: Write an article about how you aren't sure your beloved dictator is telling the truth.
Step 4: Make sure in the article you remind everyone how evil the US is.
Step 5: Completely ignore your new nations invasion of sovereign nations and their forced removal of Crimean Muslims
 
2014-04-18 04:21:40 PM
Whatever happened to that dude's girlfriend?

She was pretty cute.
 
2014-04-18 04:32:12 PM

RexTalionis: If he was more concerned about holding Putin accountable, he probably should've added a followup while he was on the air instead of writing his followup on a website which no Russians will be reading.


Right, but then he'd be on a plane back to Washington the next morning.
 
2014-04-18 04:33:38 PM

Pocket Ninja: RexTalionis: If he was more concerned about holding Putin accountable, he probably should've added a followup while he was on the air instead of writing his followup on a website which no Russians will be reading.

Right, but then he'd be on a plane back to Washington the next morning.


So much for principles.
 
2014-04-18 04:36:44 PM
If you thought getting in was difficult...
 
2014-04-18 04:41:10 PM
I questioned the Russian president live on TV to get his answer on the record, not to whitewash him
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2014-04-18 04:46:41 PM

RexTalionis: If he was more concerned about holding Putin accountable, he probably should've added a followup while he was on the air instead of writing his followup on a website which no Russians will be reading.


Surely the Russians were unprepared for that.
 
2014-04-18 04:46:51 PM
At least Snowden can now look around and see what actual fascism looks like.
 
2014-04-18 04:58:08 PM
Good for you. Come home, you farking twatwaffle.
 
2014-04-18 05:28:40 PM
Putin was KGB for 16 years.  What did he expect?  That's like if we elected a former head of the CIA.
 
2014-04-18 05:30:36 PM

syrynxx: Putin was KGB for 16 years.  What did he expect?  That's like if we elected a former head of the CIA.


www.history.com
 
2014-04-18 05:32:49 PM
"I've decided that I no longer want to live in Russia...Wait

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2014-04-18 05:33:28 PM

syrynxx: Putin was KGB for 16 years.  What did he expect?  That's like if we elected a former head of the CIA.


That's insane. We would NEVER do something like that.
 
2014-04-18 05:36:07 PM

JerseyTim: syrynxx: Putin was KGB for 16 years.  What did he expect?  That's like if we elected a former head of the CIA.

[www.history.com image 605x412]


...so it'll actually be Putin's son that implements mass surveillance of the Russian people?
 
2014-04-18 05:37:25 PM
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2014-04-18 05:38:13 PM
It's like the guy had an epiphany that all of the secrets he leaked out might have actually HELPED THE RUSSIANS.
 
2014-04-18 05:40:42 PM
I think the word we're looking for here, is "tool."
 
2014-04-18 05:41:19 PM
What an incredibly foolish man.
 
2014-04-18 05:42:10 PM

rjakobi: It's like the guy had an epiphany that all of the secrets he leaked out might have actually HELPED THE RUSSIANS.


How? Surely they knew we were doing all of that shiat anyway. They didn't suddenly forget everything they learned during the Cold War.

The big revelation was that the NSA was doing that shiat to Americans, too.
 
2014-04-18 05:42:16 PM

WTF Indeed: Step 1: Ask pre-approved softball question to a dictator whom you sold your freedom too.
Step 2: Get pre-approved answer.
Step 3: Write an article about how you aren't sure your beloved dictator is telling the truth.
Step 4: Make sure in the article you remind everyone how evil the US is.
Step 5: Completely ignore your new nations invasion of sovereign nations and their forced removal of Crimean Muslims


Don't forget state ordered attacks, murders, and imprisonment of journalists.
 
2014-04-18 05:44:45 PM
I just finished reading the Vanity Fair 20 page piece on him, so I'm getting a kick.


/worth reading
//Snowden is a tool
 
2014-04-18 05:44:50 PM
While I appreciate that Snowden alerted us more vehemently of the surveillance that the NSA was/is conducting, aren't you supposed to be keeping a low profile so that your life is not in anymore danger than it already is?  It is not supposed to make you a rock star for you to show yourself everywhere for fame.  You can be a protester when you are in a safe land that is not going to make your orange juice glow in the dark before you drink it.
 
2014-04-18 05:45:06 PM
I'm still glad he did what he did, fark the NSA and the PATRIOT Act.
 
2014-04-18 05:48:36 PM

James!: At least Snowden can now look around and see what actual fascism looks like.

 
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2014-04-18 05:49:15 PM

syrynxx: Putin was KGB for 16 years.  What did he expect?  That's like if we elected a former head of the CIA.


Bush was a one and done'er year long political appointee to the CIA brought in to be a milquetoast answer to Bill Colby in the wake of the Church investigations.

He did nothing. He was no Putin.
 
2014-04-18 05:50:45 PM

JudgeSmails: I just finished reading the Vanity Fair 20 page piece on him, so I'm getting a kick.


/worth reading
//Snowden is a tool


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2014-04-18 05:52:02 PM
We are all idiots. We all think that we are important, we aren't.

Freedom, power, wealth and everything we value is a false illusion made real by our delusion that we matter.

We have gone from laughing at "The Emperor has no clothes" to turning on the child who pointed it out and killing him publicly.

we as a species are not capable of greatness. People with say "well look at what we have done" and to that I counter "Yeah, really look at we have done" We are just an out of control ego with aspirations of godhood when all we are is primates playing in the mud.

Power is not real, nobody cares, Putin, bush the 1% and who cares who else can't take it with them. They are just important as a petty dictator 3500 years ago. Nobody cares and given enough time it will be as if they never existed because they aren't really doing anything new.
 
2014-04-18 05:52:14 PM
The ghostwriter should really demand attribution. At least a co-byline. It shows a remarkable willingness to portray a craven reactionary partisan as an earnest, dull-witted imp. He'd get a lot of work.
 
2014-04-18 05:54:00 PM

This text is now purple: rjakobi: It's like the guy had an epiphany that all of the secrets he leaked out might have actually HELPED THE RUSSIANS.

How? Surely they knew we were doing all of that shiat anyway. They didn't suddenly forget everything they learned during the Cold War.

The big revelation was that the NSA was doing that shiat to Americans, too.


The big revelation was that people want our Government to protect us but are unwillingly to take the necessary steps to make sure that they can protect us.

/information leaked = methods revealed
//methods revealed = new methods must be created
 
2014-04-18 05:54:35 PM
Poor naive Snowden, people are garbage no matter where you are.  And those "illegal" practices are simply called controlling the masses, if you don't have misery, poverty, death, fear, and corruption it could hardly be called human society. This is the only way people know how to live, they like it, they strive for it, that's why women selectively pick violent brutes.
 
2014-04-18 05:59:05 PM
"In fact, Putin's response was remarkably similar to Barack Obama's initial, sweeping denials of the scope of the NSA's domestic surveillance programs, before that position was later shown to be both untrue and indefensible. "

So Putin lies like Obama?
I guess I've underestimated Obama.
 
2014-04-18 06:01:13 PM
Edward Snowden blew the whistle. America turned their head in his direction. A few said he was a traitor, a few said he was a hero. And then America shrugged and went back to business as usual. He changed no tunes. He brought down no establishments. He purged no corruption from our government.

This is what happens when someone blows the whistle on something people ultimately do not care about.
 
2014-04-18 06:01:36 PM
Given all the things Putin had done, whether or not he is spying and storing surveillance ranks right there with me wanting to know if he pissed the bed ad a toddler.
 
2014-04-18 06:01:39 PM
His explanation is one of either being complicit with Putin, or else a stunninly naive tool.

Me, I think the guy's a semi-crazy fark up. The documents he published are kinda meaningless and the things he said he could do were very much "yeah, so what?". He's turned his back on a good job, hot girlfriend and nice life for being Putin's biatch.
 
2014-04-18 06:03:00 PM
The dude was a Russian plant all along. Before his leaks the US was biatching to China and Russia about human rights, spying and other cray cray shiat. After his leaks he went to China and Russia know damn well these are the two worst places on Earth when it come to the shiat he was trying to defend.
 
2014-04-18 06:03:25 PM
The Guardian deserves an anti-Pulitzer for being so utterly played by Putin via Snowden.

/Yeah, it's stolen.  Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
 
2014-04-18 06:04:51 PM

farkeruk: His explanation is one of either being complicit with Putin, or else a stunninly naive tool.

Me, I think the guy's a semi-crazy fark up. The documents he published are kinda meaningless and the things he said he could do were very much "yeah, so what?". He's turned his back on a good job, hot girlfriend and nice life for being Putin's biatch.


according the article I just read on him, he really wanted to be a spy and not a cube dweller. he also thought he'd be hailed as a hero and wanted his name out there once the guardian was about to publish the first story.
 
2014-04-18 06:07:53 PM

mainsail: I think the word we're looking for here, is "tool."


Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: What an incredibly foolish man.


I used to think Snowden was a traitor, and his "whistleblower" act a smokescreen to cover up his espionage.  Now I'm starting to thing he really is as stupid as his behavior suggests.
 
2014-04-18 06:09:36 PM
My mother had a saying that she always used in situations like this -

"You made your bed, now sleep in it"

How's the gulag, Eddie?
 
2014-04-18 06:12:04 PM
Man, he's a self-righteous prick.
 
2014-04-18 06:14:20 PM
Not sure what he expected.
Nice and all to expose Americas security flaws and put our politicians obsession with overreach up for all to see, but he damn well knew Russia was equally as bad. Now he lives like a trophy but only with Putins blessing.
Try not to complain too loudly...

/Sucks that, after all that Cold War and propaganda, we turn out to be the same as other nations.
/we should strive towards our ideals.
/However, pointing out the flaws rarely makes politicians repentant.
/instead we appear to have doubled down, and now Snowden's ass is stuck in Russia.
/so there's been somewhat negative progress here.
 
2014-04-18 06:19:33 PM
Seeking political asylum in Russia is like hiding under a tree in an electrical storm.
 
2014-04-18 06:34:57 PM
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2014-04-18 06:37:57 PM
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2014-04-18 06:38:41 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: The dude was a Russian plant all along. Before his leaks the US was biatching to China and Russia about human rights, spying and other cray cray shiat. After his leaks he went to China and Russia know damn well these are the two worst places on Earth when it come to the shiat he was trying to defend.


They are also don't have extradition treaties with the USA and are big enough to back it up. Minor countries like the ones in South America are easily paid off or strong armed. The feds wouldn't hesitate to drop into someplace like Paraguay and snatch him up. Russia on the other hand...
 
2014-04-18 06:41:39 PM
Personally, I think Snowden's neither a hero nor a traitor. He's just a plain idiot.

"They're reporting classified shiat. About an unpopular country surrounded by enemies already engaged in a war and about our interactions with said country regarding planning sovereignity violations of another country  you don't put that shiat in the NEWSPAPER. Moreover, who the fark are the anonymous sources telling them this? Those people should be shot in the balls."
-Edward Snowden
 
2014-04-18 06:42:49 PM
He did a TED talk not long ago that was interesting.

Not that the haters here would appreciate it.
 
2014-04-18 06:45:19 PM

Hey_shut_up: We are all idiots. We all think that we are important, we aren't.

Freedom, power, wealth and everything we value is a false illusion made real by our delusion that we matter.

We have gone from laughing at "The Emperor has no clothes" to turning on the child who pointed it out and killing him publicly.

we as a species are not capable of greatness. People with say "well look at what we have done" and to that I counter "Yeah, really look at we have done" We are just an out of control ego with aspirations of godhood when all we are is primates playing in the mud.

Power is not real, nobody cares, Putin, bush the 1% and who cares who else can't take it with them. They are just important as a petty dictator 3500 years ago. Nobody cares and given enough time it will be as if they never existed because they aren't really doing anything new.


Only Jesus is important! AMEN!!!
 
2014-04-18 06:47:31 PM

Weatherkiss: Edward Snowden blew the whistle. America turned their head in his direction. A few said he was a traitor, a few said he was a hero. And then America shrugged and went back to business as usual. He changed no tunes. He brought down no establishments. He purged no corruption from our government.

This is what happens when someone blows the whistle on something people ultimately do not care about.


We should just bend over and take it, resistance is futile.
Anyone else feels like Americans are a lot less American than they used to be?
 
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