DubtodaIll: Now I want to know what Ibogaine and Ayahuasca are all about.
ikanreed: LoneWolf343: ikanreed: Cocaine kills people, though. I mean, maybe with doctor prescription, in measured doses, maybe? But why would cocaine ever ever ever be freerer to use than sleeping pills?You know what else kills people? Legal drugs. You can kill yourself with OTC painkillers if you want.Yeah, you can by intentionally attempting to do so. Overdose quantities are a huge compared to treatment doses. You know full well that hundreds of people die from unintentional cocaine overdoses, and any substance that has that risk is required to be by prescription in the US.
germ78: I'd really like to try Ibogaine, not because it can help heroin addiction problems, but is effective in treating most types of addiction./addictive personality type//avoid hard-hard drugs because of it///even pot can give me a lot of trouble
rich_mitch: thisisyourbrainonFark: Psychedelic mushrooms should be legal, as should LSD.Word. Did some legal-ish shrooms in Amsterdam and it was a very civilized experience. Had a great time and nobody got hurt. Way better than the dried cow shaite you get stateside.
Ready-set: It should all be legal. I still cringe when people say 'alcohol and drugs', as if booze doesn't count.Pffft. 'Land of Free' my adorable lil' arse.
Diacetylmorphine: CJHardin: Hi, I'm a vet that completed a clinical trial using MDMA to treat PTSD. I'll be on CNN with Sanjay Gupta in a month.http://burners.me/2013/11/27/miss-molly-goes-to-war/First of all, you rock dude! Second, I tried asking this question on that reddit thread and I emailed the people running that S.C. trial to no avail... maybe either you or fome nice farker could answer.The question is: Ok, I'm a service connected PTSD afflicted vet that has (unfortunately) used MASSIVE amounts of illegal drugs (mostly opiate based ie heroin, but also methamphetamine) to try to cope. Opiates work well for me, but obviously due to the illegal and health impacts, it is not sustainable. Anyone care to chime in on if MDMA use for persons that are addicts is a viable treatment option? Does built up tolerance to opiates and/or methamphetamines reduce the efficacy of MDMA in this form of treatment? Btw, I'm six months clean and sober from all drugs/alcohol if that matters.Thanks for your service bud and I truly hope you overcome this bullshiat and live a long and happy life.
Diacetylmorphine: ryant123: On some measures, MDMA is less harmful than marijuana.Reddit had a thread recently that featured a US Veteran that was doing a clinical trial on MDMA use for PTSD treatment.Fascinating stuff
ikanreed: AeAe: ikanreed: Cocaine kills people, though. I mean, maybe with doctor prescription, in measured doses, maybe? But why would cocaine ever ever ever be freerer to use than sleeping pills?Do you know what else kills people? Legal prescription drugs. Did you know you can OD on aspirin?Okay, do you want me to convert that maybe to a definitely? All it has to do is treat a specific condition, then definitely with a doctor's prescription. This isn't hard.
Diacetylmorphine: moeburn:(any evidence is good evidence)True, I was speaking regarding actual people I know that have gone to Mexico to try that detox option. Maybe 6-7 individuals? Each one said the process was horrific and they all relapsed within a month.
SquiggsIN: kindms: SquiggsIN: kindms: All drugs should be legal. We have plenty of laws in the US to deal with unwanted behavior if people step out of lineour elected leaders would disagree. they live to pass laws that we don't need because only one person was dumb enough to do what they are passing a law against.Oh I realize this. I am very much in the minority when it comes to my feelings on people putting substances in their bodies. I think people should be able ingest whatever they want. As soon as you step out of line tho you get the hammer dropped on you. I am totally fine with that and no excuses like I was drunk or whatever. You do something while under the influence you are going down but just being under the influence should not be enough to be arrested if you are just chilling or minding your own business etcAs much as the inner libertarian in me (small l people not big L) wants to agree with that, there are just some substances that the effective/lethal dose ratio screams 'STAY BANNED FOREVER' to me. In addition, some substances have such negative possible side effectss that, as a society, i'm not sure it's worth the 'free choice' factor for individuals to subject the rest of the population to the possible horrors.I'm all for the legalization of cannabis and I'm not even sure I could support continued cocaine prohibition but, for me meth of any type is the equivalent of deliberately drinking drano.
SquiggsIN: radarlove: DubtodaIll: Now I want to know what Ibogaine and Ayahuasca are all about.Ibogaine is a hallucinogen that throws you into what has pretty much universally been described as the most terrifying trip of your life. Why would people not only want to do that, but want it legal?Because it cures damn near any addiction, and is particularly effective at getting people off of heroin with no relapse.Ayahuasca is loaded with DMT and is the new hippy-trip.I didn't enjoy AMT or DMT or LSD. I'll stick with my cannabis as I have no desire to experiment further./obviously i'm lying because this gateway reefers makes me want to rape white wimmen and dance jazz and shoot people
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Diacetylmorphine: DubtodaIll: Now I want to know what Ibogaine and Ayahuasca are all about.Only use I've heard for Ibogaine outside of tribal religious use is kicking heroin. A small subset of the treatment community swear by it, but the first person anecdotal evidence I have heard is that it really doesn't work that well.
Dragonflew: Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you want to be moving faster than a 5 Year old on Pixie Sticks for about 8 hours... Coke is your thing.Eight hours? Did someone play joke and put LSD in your coke?
ikanreed: Cocaine kills people, though. I mean, maybe with doctor prescription, in measured doses, maybe? But why would cocaine ever ever ever be freerer to use than sleeping pills?
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