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(Fox Business)   Google 1Q earnings come in at $3.45 billion. Wall Street celebrates the news by dropping the stock 6%   (foxbusiness.com) divider line 27
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2014-04-18 10:48:51 AM
So, if you like them buy their stock now?  Sounds like a win-win if you think they are undervalued by being dropped 6%.
 
2014-04-18 12:17:45 PM
I know, right Subby??  They made a lot of money therefore their stock should go up!  That's how it works, right?
 
2014-04-18 12:26:31 PM
Well, if you don't live up to The Almighty Analysts' realistic expectations, your company gets hit.


/oversimplification
 
2014-04-18 12:32:43 PM
When you ignore your core business and spend tons of money on shiny objects that will never be profitable this is what happens.

/oversimplification
 
2014-04-18 12:34:42 PM
I can believe those profits... some of it from dropping adsense publishers for "invalid activity" that they refuse to give any details on, offer a one shot appeal (of charges you cannot defend) that gets insta-canned, and they keep your balance.

I spent money and time to integrate their adMob product into my game Conk The Roach... only to have them can my account (and all of $9 in revenue at that point). I have no idea what I did wrong. I had it up on the market for all of a week... with a rising number of impressions and click, but nothing insane. I certainly hadn't hired a click farm or anything. Doing some research, I discovered they were pocketing a LOT of money doing this to publishers. One rather large game publisher who used adSense as a backend had just paid Google and got cut off - and it was advertising THEY sold, not google - they were losing tens of thousands a day in revenue thanks to the adsense bots.

From what I can tell, it might be an over-sensitive algorithm that is getting false positives on mobile apps, since the adSense appeal system seems centered on web publishers (they require logs that, obviously, a mobile app developer cannot provide).

In the end, all they are doing is pissing off content creators and driving mobile app developers to other ad networks. I'm sure it will take a while before their practices threaten adMob/adSense, but they can't keep doing that sort of nonsense.
 
2014-04-18 01:00:51 PM
meh.  I got in at $325 a few years ago and am going to let it ride.
 
2014-04-18 01:06:04 PM
I picked up three measly shares with some gambling money in 2012. It's still up around 50%. At any rate I hold it in a roth ira so I won't have to pay any tax on the gains. After the split I have six shares but I doubt I do anything with it regardless of what happens - it was a speculative play I bought on the off chance that google owns the planet 20 years from now. If they don't, well, then I guess I blew two grand.
 
2014-04-18 01:54:14 PM

LesserEvil: I can believe those profits... some of it from dropping adsense publishers for "invalid activity" that they refuse to give any details on, offer a one shot appeal (of charges you cannot defend) that gets insta-canned, and they keep your balance.

I spent money and time to integrate their adMob product into my game Conk The Roach... only to have them can my account (and all of $9 in revenue at that point). I have no idea what I did wrong. I had it up on the market for all of a week... with a rising number of impressions and click, but nothing insane. I certainly hadn't hired a click farm or anything. Doing some research, I discovered they were pocketing a LOT of money doing this to publishers. One rather large game publisher who used adSense as a backend had just paid Google and got cut off - and it was advertising THEY sold, not google - they were losing tens of thousands a day in revenue thanks to the adsense bots.

From what I can tell, it might be an over-sensitive algorithm that is getting false positives on mobile apps, since the adSense appeal system seems centered on web publishers (they require logs that, obviously, a mobile app developer cannot provide).

In the end, all they are doing is pissing off content creators and driving mobile app developers to other ad networks. I'm sure it will take a while before their practices threaten adMob/adSense, but they can't keep doing that sort of nonsense.


They got me years ago with this. A guy took them to court in CA over it and won, but then lost on appeal. Guess which appeals court judge was in Google's pocket?
 
2014-04-18 01:56:31 PM
Who looks to Wall Street for rationality in the first place? No matter how big Apple's profits are, the stock will tank if the profit doesn't meet the analyst's expectations. And Apple has profit margins most businesses will never ever have.
 
2014-04-18 02:29:42 PM

skinink: Who looks to Wall Street for rationality in the first place? No matter how big Apple's profits are, the stock will tank if the profit doesn't meet the analyst's expectations. And Apple has profit margins most businesses will never ever have.


You think MSFT didn't have insane profits during the decade in which the stock price was moribund? Profits are flat-out assumed by analysts. I mean if you don't have profits you just won't be in business for long. Anyway, what analysts and stock pickers are looking for is profit GROWTH. Aapl has simply learned what all the other giants learned before them - once you are a ginormous market maker profits are easy and profit GROWTH is hard. The writing was on the wall for anyone who cared to see - I'm not going to go dig all that shiat up but aapl's profit growth for 4 years was like 70%, 44%, 22%, 11%.... - then they started offering a dividend. Which is what ginormous companies do for their shareholders to incentive owning the stock after the big growth party slows down.
 
2014-04-18 03:01:59 PM

skinink: Who looks to Wall Street for rationality in the first place? No matter how big Apple's profits are, the stock will tank if the profit doesn't meet the analyst's expectations. And Apple has profit margins most businesses will never ever have.


That goes both ways. If the expectations were too high then the stock was higher than it should've been for most of the quarter.
Earnings reports is simply reality check time.
If you don't trust the analysts then I guess you've just figured out the best times for you to buy and sell stock.
 
2014-04-18 03:11:02 PM
 
2014-04-18 03:23:31 PM

neaorin: skinink: Who looks to Wall Street for rationality in the first place? No matter how big Apple's profits are, the stock will tank if the profit doesn't meet the analyst's expectations. And Apple has profit margins most businesses will never ever have.

That goes both ways. If the expectations were too high then the stock was higher than it should've been for most of the quarter.
Earnings reports is simply reality check time.
If you don't trust the analysts then I guess you've just figured out the best times for you to buy and sell stock.


Just because I don't trust analysts means I've "figured" anything out. It's not an either/or game. And if the analysts knew anything then they actually would have had the lower Google figures.
 
2014-04-18 03:42:01 PM
Wall Street better bid that shiat back up. I have it on good authority that Larry's building an army of Atlases and he's not afraid to use them.
 
2014-04-18 03:44:31 PM

skinink: Just because I don't trust analysts means I've "figured" anything out.


I can at least agree with that. You have definitely not figured anything out.
 
2014-04-18 03:46:12 PM

LesserEvil: I can believe those profits... some of it from dropping adsense publishers for "invalid activity" that they refuse to give any details on, offer a one shot appeal (of charges you cannot defend) that gets insta-canned, and they keep your balance.

I spent money and time to integrate their adMob product into my game Conk The Roach... only to have them can my account (and all of $9 in revenue at that point). I have no idea what I did wrong. I had it up on the market for all of a week... with a rising number of impressions and click, but nothing insane. I certainly hadn't hired a click farm or anything. Doing some research, I discovered they were pocketing a LOT of money doing this to publishers. One rather large game publisher who used adSense as a backend had just paid Google and got cut off - and it was advertising THEY sold, not google - they were losing tens of thousands a day in revenue thanks to the adsense bots.

From what I can tell, it might be an over-sensitive algorithm that is getting false positives on mobile apps, since the adSense appeal system seems centered on web publishers (they require logs that, obviously, a mobile app developer cannot provide).

In the end, all they are doing is pissing off content creators and driving mobile app developers to other ad networks. I'm sure it will take a while before their practices threaten adMob/adSense, but they can't keep doing that sort of nonsense.


Kinda the same situation for me. I once played a lot of BF2, SoF2, and other older FPS games. I was a member of a clan wit a few hundred members globally, so I paid for a domain name and setup a forum. I then applied for an AdSense account and was approved.

I spent a lot of time tailoring the adsense blocks to fit into my website and not be terribly obtrusive. Got all the color coding and all that stuff set so it blended in and wasn't obtrusive, and then added it to a sidebar, and a repeating banner after like ever 20 posts in a forum or thread.

The guys in the clan didn't mind, and were actually helpful... or so they thought. They started clicking all the ads and never buying anything. I think I racked up like $20 in revenue, at which point Google pulled the plug and revoked my account.

Here I am, many years later, and they still will not let me put their ads on a site. I'll have to register an LLC and get a new Tax ID in order to do business with them again. They are kinda coonts.

Oh well... it's not like there is a lot of money to be made selling ads online anyway. Drew got it right. Just charge $5.00 a month for "premium" access to what everyone else gets for free.
 
2014-04-18 03:48:30 PM
Company makes more money per share in profit than 75% of all public company's stocks are worth...in one quarter...and the stock drops.

Odd.
 
2014-04-18 04:02:05 PM
They'll be fine.
 
2014-04-18 04:10:35 PM

AngryDragon: Company makes more money per share in profit than 75% of all public company's stocks are worth...in one quarter...and the stock drops.

Odd.


A miss is a miss. Everyone knows what a forecast is - if the company beats it the stock rises (usually) and if they miss it the stock falls (usually). It's one trading day so who really gives a shiat? Goog gets three more calls this year and will trade every business day in between so it's not like it's important. Anyway, your comment doesn't make much sense to begin with. It's a stock. It has a price. That price is going to rise or fall depending on the news and their quarterly performance. The fact they made a large profit is really neither here nor there.
 
2014-04-18 05:39:02 PM
Big deal. Nobody complained a couple weeks ago when the stock dropped almost 500 points.
 
2014-04-18 06:07:16 PM

cyberspacedout: Big deal. Nobody complained a couple weeks ago when the stock dropped almost 500 points.


Exactly. I'm not sure who keeps up with that shiat but one day I had three shares and the next day I had six.
 
2014-04-18 11:33:59 PM
like any well respected wall street casino would.
 
2014-04-19 02:49:06 AM

JohnBigBootay: Everyone knows what a forecast is -


and those are the problem. No one should be forecasting jack shiat. Judge a stock on what a company actually does, not whether or not it does whatever you imagine it should do.
 
2014-04-19 03:52:36 AM

WhyteRaven74: JohnBigBootay: Everyone knows what a forecast is -

and those are the problem. No one should be forecasting jack shiat. Judge a stock on what a company actually does, not whether or not it does whatever you imagine it should do.


Wow. Now I don't listen to them much myself and to be honest they aren't really talking to schmucks like you and me. But you've got to be kidding. You think investment organizations are going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in individual companies and NOT employ people to analyze the fark out of their performance? Or that the financial press would not seek these gentlemen out for their opinions?
 
2014-04-19 06:11:01 AM
damn short sellers.
 
2014-04-19 10:09:15 AM
I don't know why fark greens investment headlines from people who lack basic economic understanding.
 
2014-04-19 03:27:57 PM
Sometimes stock prices go up; sometimes stock prices go down.

/oversimplification
 
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