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(Independent)   As the operator of an indoor pot grow-op, is your greatest fear a) nosy neighbors, b) cops, come and try to snatch your crops, or c) gangs of geeks with drones carrying infrared cameras?   (independent.co.uk) divider line 4
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2014-04-18 10:57:04 PM  
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Gyrfalcon: To answer the question, c) gangs of geeks and their infrared drones. Private citizens are not bound by the 4th Amendment--at all, not even a little tiny bit--the way police are.


Consider this:  Private citizen with a bug up their posterier goes flying around looking for "hot" houses.  With his little infrared camera equipped drone, he finds a place that is hot like a grow house.  So he anonymously calls the police and says he thinks the house at 1313 Mockingbird Lane is growing dope.  Police think it's a credible tip, so they check with the utility company, and see they've run up some serious electric bills.  They do some surveillance, get their probably cause for the warrant, and bust the operation.

Now, it would have been illegal for the police to do it themselves, because the Supreme Court has ruled that the police can't use infrared like that.

So now what is to stop them from doing it anyway and claiming they got an anonymous tip?

It's something called "parallel construction" and apparently that's how sensitive information that should never be used to get a warrant because it violates the Fourth Amendment is used to bust people.  The NSA intercepts a domestic call, informs the Special Operations Group, and the DEA tells the state troopers to check a certain vehicle traveling down a certain road at a certain time.  They pull the car over, end up searching it, find drugs, and then lie to the court about the ultimate source of the information that led to the car being pulled over.  Well, the troopers don't know, they just got an "anonymous tip".  Except it wasn't really anonymous.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20 13 0805


So what's to stop them from doing the very same thing with FLIR-equipped drones?
2014-04-18 03:30:41 PM  
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Mid_mo_mad_man: Is there a way to grow off grid?


sure, sunlight, it's free and nobody monitors how much you use.
2014-04-18 03:15:55 PM  
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Jument: Pokey.Clyde: You'd think that by now, that with a little planning you could completely conceal your grow. First, invest in a good insulation job to eliminate any abnormal heat signature outside the home. And second, they make LED grow lights now. Use those. It would keep the cops from using electric bills to find you. And LEDs don't put off the same amount of heat as incandescents.

/just spitballing. Never grown any myself, so I don't know.

This. I would totally use LEDs if I was going to get into the business (which I'm not). If LEDs are too expensive, buy fewer and motorize them on tracks. I would be far, far more worried about being tracked through electricity consumption, not to mention having to pay for all that electricity in the first place.


unless you are growing a house full of weed your grow op shouldn't use more electricity than a space heater.
2014-04-18 01:34:14 PM  
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You'd think that by now, that with a little planning you could completely conceal your grow. First, invest in a good insulation job to eliminate any abnormal heat signature outside the home. And second, they make LED grow lights now. Use those. It would keep the cops from using electric bills to find you. And LEDs don't put off the same amount of heat as incandescents.

/just spitballing. Never grown any myself, so I don't know.
 
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