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(Santa Barbara Independent)   If you threw a partially used artillery shell in a dumpster in Solvang, California, the police would REALLY like to have a word with you   (independent.com) divider line 71
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2014-04-18 09:21:22 AM
They said it had been fired before, yet still had active parts. I wonder how old it was, and or if somehow it was snuck off a military base.
 
2014-04-18 10:14:53 AM
You don't just blow up ammunition like that all at once.
 
2014-04-18 10:17:03 AM
Same wrongheaded thinking that made the space shuttle cost so much money per launch.  Reusable artillery sounds like a good idea on paper, but in the long run, will it really save any money?
 
2014-04-18 10:18:10 AM
Wanted for questioning...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-18 10:22:19 AM
1500 feet radius evacuation? Are they farking stupid? It's a 105 Howitzer shell, not a suitcase nuke...

Morans...
 
2014-04-18 10:22:27 AM
Where this Solvang-California is?

Is new alliance?
 
2014-04-18 10:25:51 AM

dryknife: Where this Solvang-California is?

Is new alliance?


In my pre-coffee morning haze, I failed to notice the California part and assumed it was some tiny Balkan nation.
 
2014-04-18 10:26:12 AM

strangeluck: They said it had been fired before, yet still had active parts. I wonder how old it was, and or if somehow it was snuck off a military base.


If by "snuck", you mean "fired" then it was snuck.  Somebody probably found it near/on an old firing range and took it home.  It sat on a bookshelf for years, then got tossed during spring cleaning.

Heck, I've got a couple of old WW1 shell casings that were arted up and sold as souvenirs.  A couple of non-artsy WW2 items, too.  Brought home from the wars by great grandpa and grandpa respectively.
 
2014-04-18 10:27:29 AM
"partially used artillery shell"?  Is that like "slightly pregnant"?
 
2014-04-18 10:30:00 AM

MBooda: "partially used artillery shell"?  Is that like "slightly pregnant"?


That's what I said.

/I only partially spunked up her butt
//wait a second...
 
2014-04-18 10:44:34 AM
Damn red legs leaving their shiat laying all over, Kings of Battle my ass!

/Ooh-Sha!!
//Ft Sill Basic Training C Battery 3/321 4th Platoon "Assassins"
 
2014-04-18 10:45:09 AM
I blame the Dutch.
 
2014-04-18 10:46:58 AM

Arcturus72: 1500 feet radius evacuation? Are they farking stupid? It's a 105 Howitzer shell, not a suitcase nuke...

Morans...


The lethal radius (distance at which the blast and fragments will certainly kill you) is 50 meters, and the casualty radius (at which you can expect to be incapacitated by shrapnel if standing in the open) is 100 meters. Shell fragments moving at thousands of feet per second can be thrown at least 300 meters, and the blast can cause broken glass at quite a distance. So they're not really erring THAT far on the side of caution.

/Closest I ever got to a 155mm round going off (protected behind several lines of sandbagged buildings) was about 100 yards, and holy CRAP was that loud.
 
2014-04-18 10:48:01 AM
It probably should be blown up. It's an overpriced, kitschy, fake Danish village. They have good pastries though!
 
2014-04-18 10:49:14 AM
So serious. Where did they bury the survivors? Sweden?
 
2014-04-18 10:51:50 AM
Partially used?
Did they yank it out a smoldering crater and decide to save the rest of the shell for later?
 
2014-04-18 10:54:28 AM

"Right now, it's unknown where the military ordnance came from," Hoover said.


I'm gonna guess "from the military".


"Even though they are not meant for public use, they can be purchased online.


Thanks for the tip!

*heads to ebay*
 
2014-04-18 10:56:53 AM

way south: Partially used?
Did they yank it out a smoldering crater and decide to save the rest of the shell for later?


Probably a practice round that had been fired (they're one-shot deals because of the rifling band). Could be a dud, but it's hard to believe in the amount of stupid it would take to keep a fully loaded shell around because it had failed to explode (yet).
 
2014-04-18 10:59:03 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: "Right now, it's unknown where the military ordnance came from," Hoover said.


I'm gonna guess "from the military".


Government/Military waste is really getting out of control if they are just literally thowing away bombs.
 
2014-04-18 10:59:34 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: "Right now, it's unknown where the military ordnance came from," Hoover said.


I'm gonna guess "from the military".


"Even though they are not meant for public use, they can be purchased online.


Thanks for the tip!

*heads to ebay*


Eh, all they have is shell casings, most of them made into trench art. I checked; no warheads. But these guys will sell you the casings for $5, or a tank round penetrator:  http://store.colemans.com/cart/m856-projectile-p-1193.html
 
2014-04-18 11:11:07 AM
Another failed opertunity for natural selection to do it's job.
 
2014-04-18 11:13:02 AM
"Right now, it's unknown where the military ordnance came from," Hoover said. "Even though they are not meant for public use, they can be purchased online.

Updating Amazon wish list. Neighbors are going to be sorry, deaf and exploded. Purely self defense. I saw the neighbor across the street get a UPS delivery. Pretty sure it's discarding sabot rounds for a 106 recoiless rifle or books. But probably ammo for the recoiless rifle. He's the kind of jerk that would roll a 106 tube out of his garage, fire a DS round through my picture window and reduce my family to pink dust. Just because I like to mow the grass at 3 am when the grass is sleeping and can't feel pain. And because I annexed his hawt wife. Repeatedly.
 
2014-04-18 11:17:55 AM

Arcturus72: 1500 feet radius evacuation? Are they farking stupid? It's a 105 Howitzer shell, not a suitcase nuke...

Morans...


That's the isolation distance called for (500 meters) for high explosives in the Emergency Response Guidebook.
 
2014-04-18 11:20:16 AM
...It's a shell. It's company policy not to imply ownership in the event of a shell. We use the indefinite article: "A shell". Never "Your shell".
 
2014-04-18 11:28:17 AM
Man, Andersen's has got tough. Don't criticize the soup, man.
 
2014-04-18 11:30:24 AM
The round represents a serious security breach, by an agency so secret even Snowden didn't know about it.

While live rounds will kill live people, Zombies require once-live rounds that refuse to die. Only a minimum of this special ordinance was processed, so when the acopalyse comes, that Danish village's only defense will be locked in the crypts under the police department.
 
2014-04-18 11:33:03 AM

LazyMedia: it's hard to believe in the amount of stupid it would take to keep a fully loaded shell around because it had failed to explode (yet).


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2014-04-18 11:33:31 AM

cgraves67: dryknife: Where this Solvang-California is?

Is new alliance?

In my pre-coffee morning haze, I failed to notice the California part and assumed it was some tiny Balkan nation.


I thought it was the warmest part of Denmark.
 
2014-04-18 11:36:37 AM
Just get a hermit crab to move in.
 
2014-04-18 11:38:09 AM
Partially used? Someone went off half-cocked.
 
2014-04-18 11:41:52 AM

Onkel Buck: Damn red legs leaving their shiat laying all over, Kings of Battle my ass!

/Ooh-Sha!!
//Ft Sill Basic Training C Battery 3/321 4th Platoon "Assassins"


1997 Fort Sill Basic Training, Bravo Battery, 1/79 FA, 3rd Platoon "Barbarians"
1998 Fort Sill AIT, Don't even remember the unit name, LOL

/Pull cord make gun go boom!
//I don't miss the starships.
 
2014-04-18 11:44:22 AM

CJHardin: Onkel Buck: Damn red legs leaving their shiat laying all over, Kings of Battle my ass!

/Ooh-Sha!!
//Ft Sill Basic Training C Battery 3/321 4th Platoon "Assassins"

1997 Fort Sill Basic Training, Bravo Battery, 1/79 FA, 3rd Platoon "Barbarians"
1998 Fort Sill AIT, Don't even remember the unit name, LOL

/Pull cord make gun go boom!
//I don't miss the starships.


"What unit are you in, son?"

ARTILLERY!!!!

/good morning
 
2014-04-18 11:46:03 AM

Unobtanium: Arcturus72: 1500 feet radius evacuation? Are they farking stupid? It's a 105 Howitzer shell, not a suitcase nuke...

Morans...

That's the isolation distance called for (500 meters) for high explosives in the Emergency Response Guidebook.


The new guide calls for 800 meters.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-18 11:49:54 AM
Translation: Terrorists in blue cause panic over obviously INERT dummy rounds.
 
2014-04-18 11:56:31 AM

Guadior42: CJHardin: Onkel Buck: Damn red legs leaving their shiat laying all over, Kings of Battle my ass!

/Ooh-Sha!!
//Ft Sill Basic Training C Battery 3/321 4th Platoon "Assassins"

1997 Fort Sill Basic Training, Bravo Battery, 1/79 FA, 3rd Platoon "Barbarians"
1998 Fort Sill AIT, Don't even remember the unit name, LOL

/Pull cord make gun go boom!
//I don't miss the starships.

"What unit are you in, son?"

ARTILLERY!!!!

/good morning


I'm out now, but I did my time in Fort Bragg in Arty and then reclassed to an AH-64D armt/avnx/eltrx tech.  Served in the 101st, 82nd, and 2nd.  OIF I and 3, OEF 5.

AIR ASSAULT!!!!
/How are you supposed to know what type of got-damn morning it is!? - CSM Plumley, We Were Soldiers.  :-)
//morning Red Leg!
 
2014-04-18 11:58:22 AM
Solvang is a pretty cool place to spend a few days and eat good food. Kind of a tourist trap. There's a cool Spanish mission near by, and the Hans Christen Anderson museum.
 
2014-04-18 12:08:28 PM
Pro-tip: When vacationing in Solvang, do NOT drink an entire bottle of Bulliet rye and then catch the shuttle to the neighboring Indian casino.
A "friend of mine" (ahem) is damned lucky he didn't end up in a hole on the res.
 
2014-04-18 12:11:14 PM
There is no such thing as a "partially used" artillery round.

If it's been fired but didn't burst, it's "unexploded" or it "malfunctioned".

/former artillery
 
2014-04-18 12:13:59 PM
Goodness, a lot of redlegs on Fark, it seems.

I was FDC for C 2/319th AFAR, 82nd Airborne.
 
2014-04-18 12:18:17 PM
I took their plutonium, and gave them a bomb casing full of old pinball machine parts...
 
2014-04-18 12:23:19 PM

CJHardin: Onkel Buck: Damn red legs leaving their shiat laying all over, Kings of Battle my ass!

/Ooh-Sha!!
//Ft Sill Basic Training C Battery 3/321 4th Platoon "Assassins"

1997 Fort Sill Basic Training, Bravo Battery, 1/79 FA, 3rd Platoon "Barbarians"
1998 Fort Sill AIT, Don't even remember the unit name, LOL

/Pull cord make gun go boom!
//I don't miss the starships.



I went through there in 1993 and then on to Redstone for my AIT, I was a  27E TOW/Dragon missile repairer. I dont know what the MOS identifier is now. I was so farking glad to get the hell out of Sill. farking skunks and armadillos everywhere! And my one DS looked just like Debo from Friday, crooked eye and everything
 
2014-04-18 12:25:57 PM
How does one "partially use" an artillery shell. I always figured that you either used it, or you didn't.
 
2014-04-18 12:26:33 PM

biscuitsngravy: Pro-tip: When vacationing in Solvang, do NOT drink an entire bottle of Bulliet rye and then catch the shuttle to the neighboring Indian casino.
A "friend of mine" (ahem) is damned lucky he didn't end up in a hole on the res.


When I was working at Nortel and doing the road warrior thing I heard about an installer getting caught up on one of the reservations out there while working at a telecom hut. I guess they kept him somewhere for a few days and beat the shiat out of him and let him go.

/csb
 
2014-04-18 12:33:43 PM

OnlyM3: Translation: Terrorists in blue cause panic over obviously INERT dummy rounds.


True; had the military grade rounds been live and usable, the police would have immediately known to question state senator Yeeland Lee.
 
2014-04-18 12:35:42 PM

sandiego1989: I blame the Dutch.


www.empireonline.com

"They're Danes, Mac."
 
2014-04-18 12:47:16 PM
A partially used artillery shell is called shrapnel.

0811.
 
2014-04-18 12:54:32 PM

Slam1263: A partially used artillery shell is called shrapnel.

0811.


Considering the fact that I've seen a howitzer shooting a 155mm round downrange with a nose plug in it since they were short a fuse just so they didn't have to turn the round back in (a time consuming process), a partially used round can be quite lethal.
 
2014-04-18 01:03:41 PM
When I was a kid we'd go over to my Uncles house and the kids would hang out in the basement.  My Uncle had gone to Europe in 1946 and it would appear was active in the black market.  Among the goodies he had some 30 years later was an MG 42, A couple of lugers, a couple of pacified potato mashers, a two panzerschrek projectiles (minus fuze but not sure about charges and propellent) , enough reload powder to supply a division (not from his black market days, just a lot) and a god damn unfired active 88mm shell (with movement plug installed but he had the fuse unit too).  It was clean, dry and apparently he would hit it with some brasso most Fridays after a 12 pack (lovely combination there). When he moved to a trailer on the lake I always wondered what he did with all that stuff.  I found out the inert stuff he sold at a flea market before he moved.  The ordinance?  He dumped it in the lake about 80 feet off his dock in a deep spot. It's probably safe as it would be in deep silt/mud and all but I can't help but wonder if some boater is going have a really bad day some time out there.

/He was a mean arrogant bastard.
//Punched his kids from time to time to remind them he could kick their asses.
///When the old bastard passed the world got just a little brighter.
////Was a good role model tho'.  I knew exactly not what to be like.
 
2014-04-18 01:06:23 PM
The Japanese shelled near that area during WW2. When in doubt, blame The Nips.
 
2014-04-18 01:11:46 PM

fst_creeper: enough reload powder to supply a division (not from his black market days, just a lot) and a god damn unfired active 88mm shell (with movement plug installed but he had the fuse unit too).


I showed it to my dad one time as my cousins showed me not the old bastard.  We never went over their again (we still got together with them but my mom and dad always found a way to make it happen somewhere else).  Dad always said we'd know if their house caught fire, we were only 5 miles away, we'd hear the boom.

/Only time in my life I saw my dad that obviously scared.  Since I have a picture of my dad helping lift a napalm canister in Vietnam with a grin on his face I take this a significant.
 
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