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(CNN)   10 are missing after an avalanche on Mount Everest. No word yeti on rescue efforts   (cnn.com) divider line 33
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2014-04-18 02:11:33 AM
8 votes:
I feel bad for the sherpas, who climb endlessly not for glory, but to feed their families. The climbers, no big deal.
2014-04-18 08:45:48 AM
7 votes:

rikkitikkitavi: You sound fat, lazy and unmotivated by personal accomplishments.


I am indeed. If my "accomplishments" don't provide something tangible after my efforts, I'm not doing it.

Building something, renovating something, creating something, restoring something, discovering something, that's impressive. Climbing a mountain is just a dangerous way of amusing yourself. Marathons, triathlons etc, they're also just ways of amusing yourself, but at least a bunch of sherpas don't have to die to help keep you amused. Personal achievements like that do nothing to improve the world in any way, so pat yourself on the back all you like, but don't expect anyone else to care.
2014-04-18 09:34:33 AM
5 votes:

rikkitikkitavi: Nidiot: rikkitikkitavi: You sound fat, lazy and unmotivated by personal accomplishments.

I am indeed. If my "accomplishments" don't provide something tangible after my efforts, I'm not doing it.

Building something, renovating something, creating something, restoring something, discovering something, that's impressive. Climbing a mountain is just a dangerous way of amusing yourself. Marathons, triathlons etc, they're also just ways of amusing yourself, but at least a bunch of sherpas don't have to die to help keep you amused. Personal achievements like that do nothing to improve the world in any way, so pat yourself on the back all you like, but don't expect anyone else to care.

I'll go out on a limb and venture you've done none of those things, either. But you're super quick to project your personal misgivings deploring someone else's accomplishments in order to feel better.

Put down the keyboard, and go run a mile or climb a hill. You'd be surprised what it does for your personal self worth. Much more than mouthing off in an online chat forum about how insignificant summitting the highest peak in the world is.


Your out on a limb venture is incorrect. Also my self worth is not dependent on either chat forums or climbing hills.

You can think the people who climb Everest are marvellous people who have achieved greatness. I'll continue to think they are a bunch of people who have done no more than a lot of other people, and as a result are nothing terribly special, except that they have the added bonus of putting other people's lives at risk just for their own amusement, which shows a lack of respect for others that I am not impressed with.

I'm not required to like or agree with your opinions, and you are not required to like or agree with mine, but we still get to have them regardless.

Also, since your initial appearance in this thread was to call someone else "fat, lazy and unmotivated" it's amusing that you complain of my "mouthing off". If there is to be some biatching going on, everyone gets to have a go, it's only fair.
2014-04-18 08:44:17 AM
4 votes:
Climbing a mountain that thousands of people have turned into a trash dump and toilet is no longer impressive to me. I met a guy that climbed it - kind of a freind of a friend of a friend. When I met the guy, that was one of the first things that got brought up, that he had "climbed Everest". I thought it was kind of douchbaggy.
2014-04-18 08:08:29 AM
4 votes:

phenn: syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.

I realize there is some sense of accomplishment involved and I'm sure it's exhilarating. But, it's just too farking dangerous and there's plenty of other fascinating things one could be doing.

Why can't you boys play with teddy bears??

;-)


Read Into Thin Air.  Wonderfully written and, in your case, it'll just increase your fears.  It's about a Mt. Everest hike gone awry.  The book is really good.
http://www.amazon.com/Into-Thin-Air-Personal-Disaster/dp/0385494785/ re f=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397822829&sr=1-1&keywords=into+thin+air
2014-04-18 07:35:21 AM
4 votes:

NutWrench: syrynxx: [eightsummits.com image 472x327]

Jesus, it's like the lines at Disneyworld. Why would anyone want to spend that much money on something 1,000 other people have already done?


Not that I don't agree with that sentiment, but in this particular case, it was a bunch of Sherpas fixing ropes in the Khumbu ice fall, which is notoriously dangerous, in preparation for the upcoming climbing season.

Sad story.
2014-04-18 09:08:38 AM
3 votes:

Gig103: I feel bad for the sherpas, who climb endlessly not for glory, but to feed their families. The climbers, no big deal.


Yeah, this.  I hope no sherpas were among this missing/hurt/killed.  Tourists....meh.
2014-04-18 08:35:21 AM
3 votes:

syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

[eightsummits.com image 472x327]

These people were apparently the guides and not the rich idiots who pay to be #257th climber of the day, but still - it's a rock.  Go risk your life for something meaningful, not climbing a rock.


Is it any easier to muster sympathy for men who walk out the door and face death in order to keep their family barely fed and clothed?  The Sherpas aren't doing it to impress their friends at the yacht club.
2014-04-18 12:59:48 AM
3 votes:
It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

eightsummits.com

These people were apparently the guides and not the rich idiots who pay to be #257th climber of the day, but still - it's a rock.  Go risk your life for something meaningful, not climbing a rock.
2014-04-18 10:44:31 AM
2 votes:

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: My guess is that 99.9% of people who climbed Everest will let you know about it within the first few minutes of talking to them.


Why is it that marathon runners, triathletes, climbers, etc all have to let you know the most intimate details of their personal accomplishments?  Have some modesty for f*ck's sake.

/and f*ck your stupid little 26.2 sticker
2014-04-18 09:14:06 AM
2 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: Gig103: I feel bad for the sherpas, who climb endlessly not for glory, but to feed their families. The climbers, no big deal.

Yeah, this.  I hope no sherpas were among this missing/hurt/killed.  Tourists....meh.


Sadly, it was pretty much all Sherpas.

/agree with you
2014-04-18 08:01:38 AM
2 votes:

phenn: syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.


As you should.  Pike's Peak does not have a death zone.  Has he climbed any other mountains at all, or does he just hike up that one and has convinced himself all mountain climbs are just like that?
2014-04-18 03:36:52 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Astorix: The Sherpas aren't always the good guys, as they frequently extort climbers, people rip off each other's supplies and naive people with absolutely no climbing experience come back permanently crippled from altitude sickness.

how do you become permanently crippled from altitude sickness?  altitude sickness seems temporary - unless you die.  that part is permanent.  but how do you become crippled permanently from it but not dead?




The mechanics of altitude sickness are quite gruesome. People have brain & lung swelling that causes a tendency towards strokes, heart attacks. Same as the bends. Once a person has the bends, hey permanently have a tendency to have problems with strokes.

Also people have lost toes, fingers, hands & feet from the severe frost bite.

Just got finished seeing "Summit" on Netflix about the 11 people who died at the K2 summit in 2008. The Documentary talks more in length about one of the survivors, named Marco who has no fingers toes now.

Not for the faint of heart.
2014-04-18 01:40:28 PM
1 votes:
Meh.. it's kind of nice to see mother nature fark with the climbers.. anyone able body (and a couple of disabled)  can climb this by chucking money at it.  Ladders, oxygen tanks, GPS, up to the minute weather forecasting..

If you want to accomplish it..  do it like Sir Edmund..

Mountain climbing is for egomaniac's, so they can have something else to talk about...I only feel bad for the Sherpa's the rest of the climber's can join green boots.
2014-04-18 01:19:15 PM
1 votes:
A part of me would love to do Everest. I mean seriously, for all the talk of how "easy" it is, it's a biatch of a thing to do and it's the highest point on Earth. Imagine the views. But the odds of death are absolutely abysmal, just crazy high. There are literally a million amazingly cool things you could do that when combined still have better odds of survival.

I've done Rainier, most likely the highest I will ever go. It was awesome.
2014-04-18 12:38:54 PM
1 votes:

LordJiro: Perhaps the saddest thing is that, likely, none of the bodies will ever be returned home.


If it's any consolation, they are Buddhist, so it truly doesn't matter to them.
2014-04-18 12:19:11 PM
1 votes:

Gunboat: phenn: syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.

I realize there is some sense of accomplishment involved and I'm sure it's exhilarating. But, it's just too farking dangerous and there's plenty of other fascinating things one could be doing.

Why can't you boys play with teddy bears??

;-)

Read Into Thin Air.  Wonderfully written and, in your case, it'll just increase your fears.  It's about a Mt. Everest hike gone awry.  The book is really good.
http://www.amazon.com/Into-Thin-Air-Personal-Disaster/dp/0385494785/ re f=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397822829&sr=1-1&keywords=into+thin+air



Another good companion book to this is High Crimes, a book about the huge racket that the Everest Climb has become. Adventure start ups rip people off for hundreds of thousands to sell the most dangerous climb on earth as the equivalent of going to Kings Island. The Sherpas aren't always the good guys, as they frequently extort climbers, people rip off each other's supplies and naive people with absolutely no climbing experience come back permanently crippled from altitude sickness.

What the CNN article failed to note was 2013 was a very deadly year with 12 deaths. The number of deaths climb exponentially because more and more people are doing the climb. It's getting so bad that many countries are putting age and disability restrictions to stop people from trying to be the "first 90 year old" or "first quadriplegic" to scale Everest.
2014-04-18 12:09:45 PM
1 votes:

MrSteve007: DecemberNitro: Why is it that marathon runners, triathletes, climbers, etc all have to let you know the most intimate details of their personal accomplishments? Have some modesty for f*ck's sake.

/and f*ck your stupid little 26.2 sticker
A little more than 500,000 people in the USA complete a marathon in a given year, placing the accomplishment at a bit above 1% of the population. That's fairly notable; especially considering the massive amount of obesity and general lethargy we've allowed to overtake our nation.

/should get a 39.3 sticker to fark with people like you
//loves climbing mountains too


Out of that 500,000, I bet a good half of them I would smoke in a 10k. I see an awful lot of fat people "running" races just so they can put a 13.1 or 26.2 sticker on the window of their minivan/SUV. Some treat races like fun runs. The worst is the Peachtree Road Race (I know, 10K, not a marathon). There are fat and out of shape people all over that course. Congrats to the real runners of marathons, but for most folks it is an unneccessary task - and perhaps even harmful.

FWIW. I was running a fast paced 5K (about a 6-6:30 minute mile pace) 4-5 times a week around a one mile course that had an 85 foot climb on it. I stopped a year ago for two reasons. I was wanting to lift more and look better - I was way too thin, and my left knee was beginning to get farked.

/ I am 48
2014-04-18 11:02:13 AM
1 votes:

LordJiro: Perhaps the saddest thing is that, likely, none of the bodies will ever be returned home.


13 bodies brought back to base camp.  Three injured evacuated by helicopter.  Seven still missing.  This happened just above base camp, not up high.
2014-04-18 10:51:04 AM
1 votes:
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2014-04-18 10:40:02 AM
1 votes:

Nidiot: rikkitikkitavi: Nidiot: rikkitikkitavi: You sound fat, lazy and unmotivated by personal accomplishments.

I am indeed. If my "accomplishments" don't provide something tangible after my efforts, I'm not doing it.

Building something, renovating something, creating something, restoring something, discovering something, that's impressive. Climbing a mountain is just a dangerous way of amusing yourself. Marathons, triathlons etc, they're also just ways of amusing yourself, but at least a bunch of sherpas don't have to die to help keep you amused. Personal achievements like that do nothing to improve the world in any way, so pat yourself on the back all you like, but don't expect anyone else to care.

I'll go out on a limb and venture you've done none of those things, either. But you're super quick to project your personal misgivings deploring someone else's accomplishments in order to feel better.

Put down the keyboard, and go run a mile or climb a hill. You'd be surprised what it does for your personal self worth. Much more than mouthing off in an online chat forum about how insignificant summitting the highest peak in the world is.

Your out on a limb venture is incorrect. Also my self worth is not dependent on either chat forums or climbing hills.

You can think the people who climb Everest are marvellous people who have achieved greatness. I'll continue to think they are a bunch of people who have done no more than a lot of other people, and as a result are nothing terribly special, except that they have the added bonus of putting other people's lives at risk just for their own amusement, which shows a lack of respect for others that I am not impressed with.

I'm not required to like or agree with your opinions, and you are not required to like or agree with mine, but we still get to have them regardless.

Also, since your initial appearance in this thread was to call someone else "fat, lazy and unmotivated" it's amusing that you complain of my "mouthing off". If t ...


Put down the keyboard.

You are in fact an idiot.
2014-04-18 10:20:52 AM
1 votes:

JK8Fan: Climbing a mountain that thousands of people have turned into a trash dump and toilet is no longer impressive to me. I met a guy that climbed it - kind of a freind of a friend of a friend. When I met the guy, that was one of the first things that got brought up, that he had "climbed Everest". I thought it was kind of douchbaggy.


My guess is that 99.9% of people who climbed Everest will let you know about it within the first few minutes of talking to them.
2014-04-18 09:16:15 AM
1 votes:
also, yeah it sucks it was the Sherpas.  They are doing it because of the limited other opportunities for work in Nepal and because it pays well - but it remains a very dangerous job.  I doubt these guys would be cavorting up and down Everest every year otherwise.

also, now because of this they will put a gondola in so that climbers can take that around the avalanches.  it is only a matter of time until you can get to the top via gondola or tram.  with lodges with pizza, burgers and chili (in a bread bowl, of course) and oxygen bars along the way.
2014-04-18 08:59:40 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Just a walk up a hill, right, Fark badasses?


No, it's not. People die doing it, which is why people should stop trying to be the badass (dumb-ass more like it) that climbs Mt Everest. If it was a stroll up a hill that didn't cost a fortune and put at risk the lives of many people, just so one wanker can feel like a big man (along with all the others who have gone before him), have at it all you like.
2014-04-18 08:48:44 AM
1 votes:
Just a walk up a hill, right, Fark badasses?
2014-04-18 08:22:31 AM
1 votes:

DrunkenBob: phenn: syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.

As you should.  Pike's Peak does not have a death zone.  Has he climbed any other mountains at all, or does he just hike up that one and has convinced himself all mountain climbs are just like that?


No, there have been others. I just couldn't name them for you at the moment.

He's kind of one of these extra chromosome guys. Kick-boxer, marathoner, river guide, etc. All of which I find impressive at his age (52). I just wish he'd find a less life threatening pursuit than scaling Everest or McKinley. Both are on his bucket list.
2014-04-18 08:21:47 AM
1 votes:

DrunkenBob: phenn: syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.

My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.

As you should.  Pike's Peak does not have a death zone.  Has he climbed any other mountains at all, or does he just hike up that one and has convinced himself all mountain climbs are just like that?


There are actually techical ascents up pikes peak, that can be a good training ground for major ascents, but I wouldn't jump from there to Everest by any means.
2014-04-18 07:57:02 AM
1 votes:
Perhaps the saddest thing is that, likely, none of the bodies will ever be returned home.
2014-04-18 07:52:02 AM
1 votes:

syrynxx: It's hard to muster great sympathy for people who risk their life to climb a rock.


My brother is talking about doing this. He's already scaled Pike's Peak 50 or so times. I really, really hate the idea. I mean a lot.

I realize there is some sense of accomplishment involved and I'm sure it's exhilarating. But, it's just too farking dangerous and there's plenty of other fascinating things one could be doing.

Why can't you boys play with teddy bears??

;-)
2014-04-18 07:48:47 AM
1 votes:
Drudge:  "Six killed in Everest avalanche."
Link to site: "At least 12 Nepalese guides killed in worst-ever Everest accident"
2014-04-18 07:31:20 AM
1 votes:

syrynxx: [eightsummits.com image 472x327]


Jesus, it's like the lines at Disneyworld. Why would anyone want to spend that much money on something 1,000 other people have already done?
2014-04-18 07:28:44 AM
1 votes:
everyone who climbs it knows the risk, and it isn't just a rock to them.
2014-04-18 07:24:20 AM
1 votes:
Sherpas dying are a buzz kill.  Unless this is an appetizer for a massive death count to come when climbing season officially begins.  The more bodies, the more glory, the more climbers.  Rinse and repeat.

/Not as schadenfreude with the other mountains
 
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