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(CBS New York)   Eight-year-old girl gets surprise package from Amazon in the mail. Fark: It contains two boxes of condoms and Amazon won't tell her parents who the anonymous sender is, unless they get a a subpoena. Cops: It "might" be considered harassment   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 148
    More: Scary, Amazon, CBS, tags, Christine Angelides, subpoenas, harassment  
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2014-04-17 10:26:50 PM  
Yes, because if there is one thing Amazon values above all else, it is the privacy of its customers.
 
2014-04-17 10:51:58 PM  
Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.
 
2014-04-17 11:25:16 PM  
Just tell her they're individually wrapped balloons, rent a helium tank for the day and have a blast.
 
2014-04-17 11:29:10 PM  

phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.


Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.
 
2014-04-17 11:43:01 PM  
That is all sorts of farked up.
I was hoping it might be a mistake, but according to TFA, it isn't.
 
2014-04-17 11:46:43 PM  
Hey, free condoms.
 
2014-04-18 12:08:02 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.


Amazon gift card
 
2014-04-18 01:03:14 AM  
This is one geographical oddity, two hours from any where.
 
2014-04-18 01:03:17 AM  
I don't care what TFA says.  Amazon is well within their rights to not disclose that information without a subpoena.  That said, with an 8 year old girl involved, someone should probably get on issuing one of those.
 
2014-04-18 01:03:27 AM  

propasaurus: Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.

Amazon gift card


She might have the same name as her whore mom, and mom is pinning it on the kid
 
2014-04-18 01:05:57 AM  
Can you get a suponea without the cops and/or the DA involved? I have no clue.
 
2014-04-18 01:07:54 AM  
Even more bothersome, Angelides said, is that her daughter's uncommon name is spelled correctly on the box.
A Google search has 15,000,000 entries
/Sounds like a stripper name
 
2014-04-18 01:09:17 AM  
Maybe it was a gift from Fyre TV?
 
2014-04-18 01:09:26 AM  
Don't worry. He's probably just flirting.
 
2014-04-18 01:09:45 AM  

Piestar: Can you get a suponea without the cops and/or the DA involved? I have no clue.


Yes, but you need to know the password.

/not a lawyer
 
2014-04-18 01:10:58 AM  

propasaurus: Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.

Amazon gift card


Came here to say this.

Kids can be cruel. Meh.

/Someone tell Freddie and Velma to put the Mystery Machine back in the garage.
 
2014-04-18 01:11:57 AM  
What would Pope Francis do?
 
2014-04-18 01:13:44 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.


And a kid can't get a hold of a parent's credit card? My guess is the mean girls at her school did it. It sounds like something a group of mean pre-adolescent girls would do thinking it would embarrass the other person.
 
2014-04-18 01:13:52 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Fisher-Price sure has changed since I was a kid.
 
2014-04-18 01:15:21 AM  
Who orders condoms from Amazon?
 
2014-04-18 01:23:10 AM  
Well, it could have been worse.  Amazon actually sells this stuff too:
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-18 01:24:18 AM  

Piestar: Can you get a suponea without the cops and/or the DA involved? I have no clue.


Approach the foreman of the grand jury in the county, have them issue one.
 
2014-04-18 01:27:25 AM  

Yes this is dog: Who orders condoms from Amazon?


They go with the lube.
 
2014-04-18 01:28:29 AM  

Jz4p: I don't care what TFA says. Amazon is well within their rights to not disclose that information without a subpoena. That said, with an 8 year old girl involved, someone should probably get on issuing one of those.


I'm cool with amazon not disclosing the information as long as we're clear that they are to be considered complicit and liable with respect to any developments in the case.  They can either say, "We had nothing to do with this, we are just an intermediate, here is the guy you want to talk to if you have any questions about the intent of the package" or they can accept joint responsiblity for shipping the condoms to the girl.  They don't get to do something on behalf of a third party, completely disavow responsibility for what they did, but then also refuse to name the responsible party they acted on behalf of.
 
2014-04-18 01:30:54 AM  
My brother had a weird incident a few years ago. He got a rather large charge on his debit card that he didn't make. Several days later, a box arrived at our parent's house, addressed to him (he was in his early 20's and going to school and hadn't lived with the folks for a few years). The box contained a high-end pocket pussy, a nice watch, some personal lubricants, and a box of "fancy" condoms. He never did figure out who did it (or so he claims). The bank ate most of the charge, but my mom had to take the box of goodies to our local, very-small-town bank and turn them in. I kind of wish I could have been there to see that.
 
2014-04-18 01:32:28 AM  
I am sick to death of the "But won't someone think of the precious snowflakes!" bandwagon in America these days. My parents would have laughed their arses off and donated the condoms to the health department's bucket-o-free condoms.
 
2014-04-18 01:33:48 AM  
I sent Frank Begbie male homosexual porn the entire time he was in prison
 
2014-04-18 01:35:44 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.


Amazon gift cards are pretty common gifts these days. A kid could decide to blow Grandma's Christmas gift on a prank.
 
2014-04-18 01:37:46 AM  

propasaurus: Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.

Amazon gift card


Ha ha Jpeg
 
2014-04-18 01:39:42 AM  
By refusing to release without a subpoena Amazon is actually helping the couple. Hint, hint, Amazon wants a subpoena served so they can cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so what ever happens to the dirt bag that sent it sticks instead of being suppressed should a case arise.
 
2014-04-18 01:44:21 AM  
Sounds like the family needs to lawyer it up. Staten island? not really surprised the detectives don't really give a shait.
 
2014-04-18 01:46:53 AM  

mrlewish: By refusing to release without a subpoena Amazon is actually helping the couple. Hint, hint, Amazon wants a subpoena served so they can cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so what ever happens to the dirt bag that sent it sticks instead of being suppressed should a case arise.


It also washes Amazon's hands of any liability if the jerk who sent the condoms ends up having a little 'accident.'
 
2014-04-18 01:50:25 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: phaseolus: Sounds like a prank a 10 year old would pull. It'll be a kid or a couple of kids at her school who did this.

Possibly, but they would have to have access to a debit or credit card to order it from Amazon.

If is someone at her school then it's more likely an adult.


Possibly her granny or grandpa, who were ordering for themselves but made an oopsy on the "Ship To" button.
 
2014-04-18 01:51:57 AM  
FTFHL:

Eight-year-old girl gets surprise package... It contains two boxes of condoms... Amazon won't tell her parents who the anonymous sender is...


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-18 01:52:27 AM  
It's condoms, not a land mine. Explain to the kid that they are something for adults and move on.
 
2014-04-18 01:52:49 AM  
1. If the parents go to the cops, why wouldn't cops and the da get a subpoena?

2. I can buy Amazon gift cards from Walmart for cash.

3. I can get an Amazon gift card from CoinStar for cash.

4. Amazon is very protective of customer privacy. Stories of Bezos nuking various marketing campaigns that would put too much revealing information in emails.
 
2014-04-18 01:53:45 AM  

knedgecko: It's condoms, not a land mine. Explain to the kid that they are something for adults and move on.


Or you could make these nice balloon animals.

elitedaily.com
 
2014-04-18 01:58:13 AM  
YAY! Free balloons!

i623.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-18 01:59:08 AM  

Jz4p: Amazon is well within their rights to not disclose that information without a subpoena.


Sure.
They're still cockbags for not voluntarily helping and deserve to be publicly trashed for it.
 
2014-04-18 01:59:18 AM  
If oblong is funny.
 
2014-04-18 02:02:16 AM  

Yes this is dog: mrlewish: By refusing to release without a subpoena Amazon is actually helping the couple. Hint, hint, Amazon wants a subpoena served so they can cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so what ever happens to the dirt bag that sent it sticks instead of being suppressed should a case arise.

It also washes Amazon's hands of any liability if the jerk who sent the condoms ends up having a little 'accident.'


Exactly,

I work for a major telco as a tech manager.  And I get tons of esclated calls about "you need to tell me the text messages, emails, what apps they are using etc"

And I always say "if your life is in danger then call the cops and have them call me" .

If I gave out the information I would be liable as the company if something happened.

The other day I got a call because a lady had her text message to voice reading turned on.

Turned out she was sitting on the couch with her husband and her lover texted her and the phone read a pretty explicit text message, and she was going to sue me, the company, and Samsung, because of her own stupidity.
 
2014-04-18 02:03:57 AM  
Maybe the parents are just mad the condoms arrived 8 years and nine months too late?
 
2014-04-18 02:05:06 AM  

ReverendJasen: Jz4p: Amazon is well within their rights to not disclose that information without a subpoena.

Sure.
They're still cockbags for not voluntarily helping and deserve to be publicly trashed for it.


IF they gave up the info, and the parents harass, kill the person, or whatever then Amazon is liable.

I am glad that you think that if you make an online purchase that companies can just release your information to anyone who calls in with a sob story.
 
2014-04-18 02:06:09 AM  
my theory is the dad sent them. Hes having and affair, needed some condoms, but couldnt ensure that hed get to the package before his wife.. so he sent it anonymously in his daughters name. If he gets the package first, great. but if not.. Hey must be some perv from the internets. perfect excuse.
 
2014-04-18 02:07:58 AM  
FREE GUM!!!

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-04-18 02:10:40 AM  
The Norman Rockwell paintings will never strike the same cord with me now.
 
2014-04-18 02:12:14 AM  

theflatline: Yes this is dog: mrlewish: By refusing to release without a subpoena Amazon is actually helping the couple. Hint, hint, Amazon wants a subpoena served so they can cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so what ever happens to the dirt bag that sent it sticks instead of being suppressed should a case arise.

It also washes Amazon's hands of any liability if the jerk who sent the condoms ends up having a little 'accident.'

Exactly,

I work for a major telco as a tech manager.  And I get tons of esclated calls about "you need to tell me the text messages, emails, what apps they are using etc"

And I always say "if your life is in danger then call the cops and have them call me" .

If I gave out the information I would be liable as the company if something happened.

The other day I got a call because a lady had her text message to voice reading turned on.

Turned out she was sitting on the couch with her husband and her lover texted her and the phone read a pretty explicit text message, and she was going to sue me, the company, and Samsung, because of her own stupidity.


I hope you responded like this with your hands, all while being nice on the phone.

cobb.typepad.com
 
2014-04-18 02:12:23 AM  

LikeALeafOnTheWind: my theory is the dad sent them. Hes having and affair, needed some condoms,


Yeah, because it's so hard to find condoms anywhere these days. Geez. No man would want to put himself in the middle of the resulting drama that would ensue from having condoms delivered to his own house, regardless of the name on the shipping label. If he did do this, he's too stupid to be allowed to have one woman, let alone two.
 
2014-04-18 02:13:19 AM  

theflatline: Yes this is dog: mrlewish: By refusing to release without a subpoena Amazon is actually helping the couple. Hint, hint, Amazon wants a subpoena served so they can cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so what ever happens to the dirt bag that sent it sticks instead of being suppressed should a case arise.

It also washes Amazon's hands of any liability if the jerk who sent the condoms ends up having a little 'accident.'

Exactly,

I work for a major telco as a tech manager.  And I get tons of esclated calls about "you need to tell me the text messages, emails, what apps they are using etc"

And I always say "if your life is in danger then call the cops and have them call me" .

If I gave out the information I would be liable as the company if something happened.

The other day I got a call because a lady had her text message to voice reading turned on.

Turned out she was sitting on the couch with her husband and her lover texted her and the phone read a pretty explicit text message, and she was going to sue me, the company, and Samsung, because of her own stupidity.


Yeah I don't understand the Amazon hate here. It's not like anyone's life is in immediate danger, so they should go through the proper channels and procedures. It shouldn't be easy for them to just fork over personal information like that.
 
2014-04-18 02:24:08 AM  

theflatline: I am glad that you think that if you make an online purchase that companies can just release your information to anyone who calls in with a sob story.


I'm amused you think they can't do that.  We're not talking about Amazon releasing someone's personal shopping history, address, or credit card info.

If you mail something to another person (especially a minor child), you should not have any expectation of privacy or anonymity.  They have the right to know who is sending shiat to them, and the company sending it should tell them.
 
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