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2014-04-17 07:56:07 PM  
As the permafrost melts

It's not really "perma" anymore, now is it?
 
2014-04-17 09:14:26 PM  
As the permafrost melts in the north, forests no longer grow straight

My God, global warming is even making the trees gay!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

/nobody wants a stick up the ass
//very often anyway
 
2014-04-17 10:06:42 PM  
There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.
 
2014-04-17 10:13:32 PM  
Stupid climate scientists and their lies.  Those are obviously photoshoped pictures.

Leave the Corporations and 1% alone!
 
2014-04-17 10:14:40 PM  
This is unpossible. My thermodynamics professor, a respected consultant for the coal industry, told us just this morning that Tuesday's snow was evidence against global warming, which is very controversial among scientists anyway.

/farking boomer
//farking engineer
///Why did I decide to join this tribe?
 
2014-04-17 10:16:14 PM  
there not Drunk they have Peyronie's disease.
 
2014-04-17 10:18:49 PM  

Fart_Machine: There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.


For the ground, which once was frozen,
seems that it will no longer freeze.
 
2014-04-17 10:19:46 PM  
I have a crooked tree. It is trying to reach the sun around the side of the house. Therefore, there is no global warming.
 
2014-04-17 10:20:52 PM  
So weather is climate today? And a localized event is proof of a global phenomenon? Sorry, missed today's memo
 
2014-04-17 10:21:48 PM  
Frost heaves and such are not necessarily global warming.

http://weatherspark.com/averages/33045/Arctic-Village-Alaska-United- St ates

fs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com

/ie when water thaws and freezes, it will shift things around it

This is not news to anyone who lives with a summer and a winter.
 
2014-04-17 10:22:54 PM  

Fart_Machine: There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.


The oaks ignore their pleas
 
2014-04-17 10:24:58 PM  

omeganuepsilon: http://weatherspark.com/averages/33045/Arctic-Village-Alaska-United- St ates


Yes, but these places don't normally have a summer hot enough to thaw the permafrost.

THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED PERMAFROST.
 
2014-04-17 10:26:00 PM  
Sometimes the trees survive the stress and continue growing, uprighting themselves to vertical. Other times they collapse or drown from rising water tables as subterranean ice melts.

Survival of the fittest, biatches
 
2014-04-17 10:26:06 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: Fart_Machine: There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.

The oaks ignore their pleas


There are perturbations in the fir trade.
 
2014-04-17 10:29:54 PM  

TheOther: BluVeinThrobber: Fart_Machine: There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.

The oaks ignore their pleas

There are perturbations in the fir trade.


Yes they are perturbed, and pissed too
 
2014-04-17 10:30:59 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: So weather is climate today? And a localized event is proof of a global phenomenon? Sorry, missed today's memo


I hope being a corporate shill pays well.
 
2014-04-17 10:32:10 PM  
What do we call it now that it's melting?

Tempafrost?
 
2014-04-17 10:35:21 PM  

meat0918: What do we call it now that it's melting?

Tempafrost?


Wet
 
2014-04-17 10:38:41 PM  

Felgraf: omeganuepsilon: http://weatherspark.com/averages/33045/Arctic-Village-Alaska-United- St ates

Yes, but these places don't normally have a summer hot enough to thaw the permafrost.

THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED PERMAFROST.


1. I did not mention permafrost, did I?

You may want to study up on permafrost.
Via the wiki:
In geology, permafrost or cryotic soil is soil at or below the freezing point of water 0 °C (32 °F) for two or more years.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_trees

This most commonly occurs in northern subarctic taiga forests of Black Spruce (Picea mariana) under which discontinuous permafrost or ice wedges have melted,[3][4] causing trees to tilt at various angles.[5][6]
A drunken forest in Siberia caused by melting permafrost. NASA photo.

Tilted trees may also be caused by frost heaving,[7] and subsequent palsa development,[8] hummocks,[9] earthflows,[10][11] forested active rock glaciers,[12] landslides, or earthquakes.[13] In stands of spruce trees of equal age that germinated in the permafrost active layer after a fire, tilting begins when the trees are 50 to 100 years old, suggesting that surface heaving from new permafrost aggradation can also create drunken forests.


Now, here's the thing.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4914860_does-permafrost-affect-trees.htm l

Because trees above permafrost cannot grow deep root systems due to the frozen layer below them, they do not have a solid foundation and are more susceptible to changes in the upper soil layer. A lot of water build up can occur on top of permafrost ground because the water cannot be absorbed by the frozen ground underneath. When this occurs, roots that are close to the surface can be warped or the soil that holds up the tree can over-saturate and shift, causing the plant to lose its bearings and slightly tip in one direction. Forests affected like this are called drunken forests because of the wobbly, crooked appearance of the trees.


Now, take your caps lock and cram it up your ass.
 
2014-04-17 10:38:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: As the permafrost melts in the north, forests no longer grow straight

My God, global warming is even making the trees gay!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

/nobody wants a stick up the ass
//very often anyway


i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-17 10:39:01 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: So weather is climate today? And a localized event is proof of a global phenomenon? Sorry, missed today's memo


Ehh, there's something about how the arctic regions are more effected. It's like... If the average in a region is at freezing across the year, then the average goes up a degree, certain effects of being at freezing on average go away. And the thing about permafrost is that it requires that sort of condition, although logically it had to be well above freezing at some point to get the deposits.
 
2014-04-17 10:39:03 PM  
I bet these stupid climate scientists think the earth is older than 6000 years too. HA! The joke is on them!
 
2014-04-17 10:39:18 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: So weather is climate today? And a localized event is proof of a global phenomenon? Sorry, missed today's memo


You can add it to the list.  If a silver bullet comes, it will be too late.

/too late does not mean apocalypse, but it does mean big lifestyle changes
//though if an apocalypse happens, it would probably be governments going to war over shifting resources and famine prevention large scale migrations, not the environment directly
///a big ass drought was a significant component in developing the mess in Syria
 
2014-04-17 10:51:17 PM  
And new permafrost is being created elsewhere. As such things are.
 
2014-04-17 11:04:40 PM  
hmmm, Poland.  It never gets cold there.  The ground is always,  wait, what?  Frozen ground in Poland?
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-17 11:09:29 PM  
In a way I'm almost looking forward to the lame excuses global warming deniers make when climate change kicks in to high gear
 
2014-04-17 11:15:09 PM  
Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

www.woodfortrees.org
 
2014-04-17 11:20:22 PM  

Fart_Machine: There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees.


Obviously, the maples want more sunlight and the oaks ignore their pleas.
 
2014-04-17 11:22:58 PM  

SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]


Which is nice because that's exactly what your graph says is happening.
 
2014-04-17 11:25:31 PM  

SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming


To quote myself from the last AGW thread:

SevenizGud continues to show his dishonesty by posting his cherry picked graph from the out-of-date HADCRUT 3 dataset (version 4 has been out for over 2 years now).

At least you're consistent.
 
2014-04-17 11:35:22 PM  

Ehcks: SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Which is nice because that's exactly what your graph says is happening.


We only have to put up with this for a few more months. These graphs always begin with 1997, which uncoincidentally was when the last major El Nino occurred. With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.
 
2014-04-17 11:40:43 PM  
Mmmm.... Drunk trees.

www.meadststation.com
 
2014-04-17 11:44:27 PM  
self explanatory
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-17 11:48:01 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Ehcks: SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Which is nice because that's exactly what your graph says is happening.

We only have to put up with this for a few more months. These graphs always begin with 1997, which uncoincidentally was when the last major El Nino occurred. With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.



www.ravenwoodcreative.com
Why not use them next year?
 
2014-04-17 11:53:38 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Ehcks: SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Which is nice because that's exactly what your graph says is happening.

We only have to put up with this for a few more months. These graphs always begin with 1997, which uncoincidentally was when the last major El Nino occurred. With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.


cdn.rsvlts.com
 
2014-04-18 12:04:52 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: meat0918: What do we call it now that it's melting?

Tempafrost?

Wet


replygif.net
 
2014-04-18 12:05:14 AM  

Psychohazard: HaywoodJablonski: So weather is climate today? And a localized event is proof of a global phenomenon? Sorry, missed today's memo

I hope being a corporate shill pays well.


He seems to be branching out.  Haven't seen him derp the AGW before.
 
2014-04-18 12:15:56 AM  
millercards.net
 
2014-04-18 12:31:23 AM  
Permafrost melting

Hahaha .. HAHAHAHA .. HAHAHAHA
 
2014-04-18 12:43:37 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: As the permafrost melts in the north, forests no longer grow straight

My God, global warming is even making the trees gay!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

/nobody wants a stick up the ass
//very often anyway


Excepting bug chasers.
 
2014-04-18 12:43:44 AM  

ski9600: hmmm, Poland.  It never gets cold there.  The ground is always,  wait, what?  Frozen ground in Poland?
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Considering I just braided 3 southern long leaf pine that had been copiced by deer I'd say that is the work of and gardener/horticulturist with a sense of humor.

I've got trees growing together to form arches on the property here. Fun stuff you can do with living trees.

flavorwire.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-18 01:07:20 AM  

fusillade762: As the permafrost melts

It's not really "perma" anymore, now is it?


Read a bit farther:

Ground that collapses as a result of melting permafrost has a technical name: thermokarst. (Thermo means heat, and karst refers to collapse.)

And there you go.
 
2014-04-18 01:07:22 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Marcus Aurelius: As the permafrost melts in the north, forests no longer grow straight

My God, global warming is even making the trees gay!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

/nobody wants a stick up the ass
//very often anyway

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


Mind if I snag that image while I contemplate the "interesting" tag? (Guess "sad" was too partisan and/or drunk to show up.)

/love the Ents
 
2014-04-18 01:27:43 AM  

meat0918: BluVeinThrobber: meat0918: What do we call it now that it's melting?

Tempafrost?

Wet

[replygif.net image 300x230]


So you're saying that Obama's so hot that the permafrost melts?
 
2014-04-18 01:31:36 AM  
Whatever!
 
2014-04-18 02:05:02 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.


I love how it is now a "denialist talking point" to bring up the, you know, actual scientific data.
 
2014-04-18 02:18:54 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Ehcks: SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Which is nice because that's exactly what your graph says is happening.

We only have to put up with this for a few more months. These graphs always begin with 1997, which uncoincidentally was when the last major El Nino occurred. With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.


Alarmists can't wait for El Nino, so they can blame weather climate change for global warming.
 
2014-04-18 02:31:12 AM  

DesertDemonWY: Alarmists can't wait for El Nino, so they can blame weather climate change for global warming.


Californians can't wait for El Nino, so we can finally get some f*cking rain.
 
2014-04-18 02:43:20 AM  

SevenizGud: common sense is an oxymoron: With a significant El Nino forecast to develop soon, global temperatures will increase and new denialist talking points will need to be fabricated.

I love how it is now a "denialist talking point" to bring up the, you know, actual scientific data.


You mean the same data you always post that gets entirely debunked and then you run from the thread, only to show up next thread and post it again?
 
2014-04-18 02:43:48 AM  

Farking Canuck: SevenizGud: Imagine how bad it would be if the world was actually, you know, warming

To quote myself from the last AGW thread:

SevenizGud continues to show his dishonesty by posting his cherry picked graph from the out-of-date HADCRUT 3 dataset (version 4 has been out for over 2 years now).

At least you're consistent.


tell it to the planet

www.woodfortrees.org

/what?
 
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