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(Yahoo)   Question: What's so special about "Mexican Coke"? Answer: Sugar   (yahoo.com) divider line 142
    More: Interesting, Mexican Coke, Mexican, urban myth, East Los Angeles, sugar canes, Marion Nestle  
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2014-04-17 04:58:11 PM  
This just in: HFCS does not taste as good as actual sugar. Ric Romero reporting.
 
2014-04-17 05:03:09 PM  
wow, that was a shiattily written article. in one paragraph, it says that the sugar claim has been "debunked," and in another, it states that mexican coke sold in the US contains cain sugar, not HFCS.
 
2014-04-17 05:06:18 PM  
First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women.
 
2014-04-17 05:09:42 PM  
Whar News Flash tag? Whar?

/FFS....
 
2014-04-17 05:26:42 PM  
Anyone who has ever heard of Mexican Coke (also Passover Coke) already knows this.
 
2014-04-17 05:27:20 PM  
 It's possible to buy mexican coke that does contain HFCS. In fact I think most of it sold in Mexico has some HFCS....the way to tell if it was bottled using cane sugar is a glued on import label.

There's a little mexican market here and the coke they sell is sold in plastic bottles or cans with Spanish but contains HFCS. (They also see the glass bottle cane sugar version for a bit more).

The US restricts the amount of cane sugar imported to the US to protect Corn growers here.
The import label is required on the bottle to show the updated calorie count and reflect 'sugar' as the major sweetener.

The upshot is that if it doesn't have a import label that's been added on and is just mexican coke (usually in a can or plastic bottle)...it probably has the same HFCS as the US product.

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2014-04-17 05:31:22 PM  
Obvious tag too busy getting a sugar high?
 
2014-04-17 05:36:43 PM  
Still tastes like battery acid.
 
2014-04-17 05:37:43 PM  
Although there is only one true nectar of the gods:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-17 05:37:55 PM  
The Coke is a lie!
 
2014-04-17 05:38:05 PM  
i.imgur.com
Mexican  what now?

i.imgur.com
Oh. You meant the drink.
 
2014-04-17 05:38:25 PM  
Went on a trip to Matalzan in the late 80s. On a bus trip to the ruins, they had beer/cerveza and Coke in the coolers.

Guess what went first.
 
2014-04-17 05:38:56 PM  
Because it's not cut with laxatives, Benzocaine or lidocaine?

/didn't
//read
///TFA
 
2014-04-17 05:39:34 PM  
"Mexican Coke has HFCS-sorry to disillusion," Marion Nestle, food nutrition professor at New York University who blogged about the study, told us. "Nobody can tell the difference ... It's all sugars. And the less, the better."

Refreshing to see honestly and intelligence in an article on the subject.
 
2014-04-17 05:40:00 PM  
Then why does mexicoke have "sugar" on the label and not "hfcs"?
 
2014-04-17 05:41:51 PM  
I quit drinking soda a few years ago. Tried a mexican coke a couple weeks back just for a treat. Apparently my body has become unaccustomed to sugar overdose and just revolted on me - I couldn't have finished the whole bottle on a dare and I used to drink it regularly and in large quantities.
 
2014-04-17 05:42:04 PM  
I get a migraine every single time I drink  it.
 
2014-04-17 05:42:29 PM  
 
2014-04-17 05:43:49 PM  

That Guy Jeff: "Mexican Coke has HFCS-sorry to disillusion," Marion Nestle, food nutrition professor at New York University who blogged about the study, told us. "Nobody can tell the difference ... It's all sugars. And the less, the better."

Refreshing to see honestly and intelligence in an article on the subject.


If you can't tell the difference between Coke made with cane sugar and Coke made with HFCS, your tongue is broken.  Dr. Dude there probably can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, either.

/I failed the Pepsi challenge
//picked Coke, which meant I didn't get the free t-shirt
///gosh, I wonder why most people picked Pepsi...
 
2014-04-17 05:43:56 PM  
I was at an all inclusive in Mexico recently and opened a can out of the minibar. It was accidental - I thought it was diet but it wasn't.

The taste was so different (and excellent!) it just about blew my mind but I basically never drink "real" coke, always diet coke in the US.

/!csb
 
2014-04-17 05:44:37 PM  
Sucrose vs HFCS which is mostly Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose).

Interestingly, Sucrose is also Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose), just combined into a single molecule.
 
2014-04-17 05:44:57 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women.


THIS
 
2014-04-17 05:45:32 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Then why does mexicoke have "sugar" on the label and not "hfcs"?


so they can charge you a lot more
 
2014-04-17 05:47:21 PM  
The more you eat the more you fart

Because Mexicans make the best Coke
 
2014-04-17 05:47:52 PM  
Uh... did everyone not know this already?


NkThrasher: Sucrose vs HFCS which is mostly Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose).

Interestingly, Sucrose is also Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose), just combined into a single molecule.


Yes, and two molecules combined into one molecule often behave differently than two molecules separately.
 
2014-04-17 05:48:30 PM  
Most of the entire range of Coke and Pepsi products are available in Mexican (meaning, real sugar) versions here in SF. Since, you know, there's a huge Latin population, and a huge cocktail culture that will spend extra on the "real" stuff.

CSB: Got a burrito like two years ago and also ordered a Mexican coke. Super socially conscientious but dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks girl behind me grabs my arm -- you can't say that! That's racist! -- because I guess a white guy can't say Mexican. I asked her to elaborate on what, exactly, was racist, and if I couldn't say "Mexican" how, exactly, I should differentiate between that Coke and "regular American" Coke. She stamped her foot (probably) and said I was everything wrong with SF. I let her have that, then on the way out went over and showed her a picture of my Mexican wife. She only scowled. Because, as we know, those people are always right.

/those people?
 
2014-04-17 05:49:00 PM  
So it doesn't have sugar.  But it did have sugar, but now it doesn't.  But the version exported to the US does have sugar.  But it's only half sugar, and half HFCS.

Anybody else feel dizzy?
 
2014-04-17 05:52:12 PM  

HeartBurnKid: So it doesn't have sugar.  But it did have sugar, but now it doesn't.  But the version exported to the US does have sugar.  But it's only half sugar, and half HFCS.

Anybody else feel dizzy?


FWIW the article is nonsense, and ultimately wrong. You absolutely can buy all sugar, no HFCS Coke products in the US. I do it all the time. Hell you can buy MexiCoke by the case at our Costco.
 
2014-04-17 05:53:44 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Most of the entire range of Coke and Pepsi products are available in Mexican (meaning, real sugar) versions here in SF. Since, you know, there's a huge Latin population, and a huge cocktail culture that will spend extra on the "real" stuff.

CSB: Got a burrito like two years ago and also ordered a Mexican coke. Super socially conscientious but dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks girl behind me grabs my arm -- you can't say that! That's racist! -- because I guess a white guy can't say Mexican. I asked her to elaborate on what, exactly, was racist, and if I couldn't say "Mexican" how, exactly, I should differentiate between that Coke and "regular American" Coke. She stamped her foot (probably) and said I was everything wrong with SF. I let her have that, then on the way out went over and showed her a picture of my Mexican wife. She only scowled. Because, as we know, those people are always right.

/those people?


wait... it's Coke, from Mexico, hence "Mexican Coke".  How the fark is that racist?  People are strange.
 
2014-04-17 05:53:52 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Anyone who has ever heard of Mexican Coke (also Passover Coke) already knows this.



Passover Coke....oh yeah.  I always keep an eye out for the yellow top bottles.


/HFCS is not kosher
//because it's fermented
 
2014-04-17 05:54:15 PM  
Mexicoke is more refreshing. You aren't left with an aftertaste or film in your mouth.
 
2014-04-17 05:55:59 PM  
Have a blind taste test. I bet nobody can tell the difference.
 
2014-04-17 05:57:45 PM  

wax_on: Have a blind taste test. I bet nobody can tell the difference.


You lose.

/mouthfeel is completely, totally different
 
2014-04-17 05:57:51 PM  

optikeye: ...

The US restricts the amount of cane sugar imported to the US to protect Corn growers here.


Sugar tariffs are in place to protect U.S. sugar growers, not corn growers. Corn growers get the benefit of unintended consequences here.
 
2014-04-17 05:59:20 PM  

scanman61: Pokey.Clyde: Anyone who has ever heard of Mexican Coke (also Passover Coke) already knows this.


Passover Coke....oh yeah.  I always keep an eye out for the yellow top bottles.


/HFCS is not kosher
//because it's fermented


For whatever reason I found Passover Coke tasted much different from Mexican Coke.  Might be the difference between plastic and glass or might have been spoilage.
 
2014-04-17 05:59:59 PM  

Gawdzila: Uh... did everyone not know this already?


NkThrasher: Sucrose vs HFCS which is mostly Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose).

Interestingly, Sucrose is also Fructose and Dextrose(Glucose), just combined into a single molecule.

Yes, and two molecules combined into one molecule often behave differently than two molecules separately.



Yep.  As I sip my throwback Pepsi with Sucrose. They sure do.

I just think it's fascinating how little differences chemically result in big differences in our perception.  Honey is very similar as far as sugar content goes to HFCS, but has a completely different impact on us (due to all the other stuff in it).  Sucrose is HFCS's sugars combined into one molecule.  Sucrose and Honey are obviously extremely different from each other as sweeteners.
 
2014-04-17 06:00:00 PM  
One of the best things about living in Southern California is how easy it is to find really great authentic Mexican food. Mexican Coke is also very easy to find. Just about every liquor store around carries it. I also think the glass bottle makes it somehow taste "cleaner", if that makes any sense.
 
2014-04-17 06:02:06 PM  

FlashHarry:  it states that mexican coke sold in the US contains cain sugar


Are you abel to tell the difference?
 
2014-04-17 06:02:52 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Anyone who has ever heard of Mexican Coke (also Passover Coke) already knows this.


This.

On the rare occasions I drink soda, it's either the MexiCoke or Throwback Pepsi.
 
2014-04-17 06:03:23 PM  

wax_on: Have a blind taste test. I bet nobody can tell the difference.


I bet if I made up ten glasses of sweetened water, five with sucrose and five with HFCS with a stepping scale of specific gravity (relative density to water) from low sweetening to high sweetening with both that you could sort them and distinguish between the two.
 
2014-04-17 06:03:47 PM  
I miss the green glass bottles.

CSB: My father was a salesman for owens-illinois bottling. He told me IIRC that Miller held a patent on a chemical in clear glass that protected it from UV. Think about it. All other US  beers besides High Life are in brown or green glass. Corona and Sol, being in Mexico don't follow US patent law. The Mexicoke bottle is also clear. I'm just nostalgic for the green deposit bottles...onion, lawn, etc.
 
KIA
2014-04-17 06:08:01 PM  
Actually, the US excise taxes on cane sugar were levied primarily in response to Castro's take-over of Cuba.  It had the side benefit of crushing a bunch of other South American dictatorships based on the sugar trade as well and may have helped fuel the transition into drugs.

But... yay farmers and big agriculture for taking subsidies for not growing stuff anyway.  Yay subsidies for ethanol.  Yay subsidies for... everybody!!!

Coke with sugar - it's the Real Thing!
 
2014-04-17 06:09:48 PM  

FlashHarry: wow, that was a shiattily written article. in one paragraph, it says that the sugar claim has been "debunked," and in another, it states that mexican coke sold in the US contains cain sugar, not HFCS.


Yes, retarded article is retarded.
 
2014-04-17 06:14:01 PM  

HeartBurnKid: wax_on: Have a blind taste test. I bet nobody can tell the difference.

You lose.

/mouthfeel is completely, totally different


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/hot
 
2014-04-17 06:14:27 PM  

timujin: That Guy Jeff: "Mexican Coke has HFCS-sorry to disillusion," Marion Nestle, food nutrition professor at New York University who blogged about the study, told us. "Nobody can tell the difference ... It's all sugars. And the less, the better."

Refreshing to see honestly and intelligence in an article on the subject.

If you can't tell the difference between Coke made with cane sugar and Coke made with HFCS, your tongue is broken.  Dr. Dude there probably can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, either.

/I failed the Pepsi challenge
//picked Coke, which meant I didn't get the free t-shirt
///gosh, I wonder why most people picked Pepsi...


Marion Nestle is a food nazi, so it's not surprising she said something like that.

Interesting bit of trivia/news, though: Coke in Mexico will be sold with HFCS, but Mexican Coke with real sugar will still be made & sold here in the US http://gizmodo.com/mexican-coke-is-ditching-cane-sugar-for-high-fruct o se-c-1459437477
 
2014-04-17 06:14:48 PM  

HeartBurnKid: So it doesn't have sugar.  But it did have sugar, but now it doesn't.  But the version exported to the US does have sugar.  But it's only half sugar, and half HFCS.

Anybody else feel dizzy?


That article is confused as are some of the articles it linked to. It's easier to understand if we don't use the word sugar. Then it goes like this: American sodas are sweetened with HFCS which is a glucose that has been partially converted into fructose. Mexican Coke is sweetened with sucrose. Some small study found Mexican Coke as having a mix of fructose and glucose. That suggests that Mexican Coke is actually sweetened with HFCS. However, sucrose degrades over time into fructose and glucose and the study only analyzed one bottle so you can't say with any confidence that Mexican Coke labels are lying. Mexican bottlers are also planning to replace the sucrose in Mexican Coke with HFCS but will continue making Coke with sucrose to sell to the US.

But it's all sugar and all bad for you, even that organic agave nectar. So drink water.
 
2014-04-17 06:18:11 PM  
Derp
 
2014-04-17 06:19:39 PM  

MrSteve007: Although there is only one true nectar of the gods:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 238x300]


MORE SUGAR


/Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand me the Pliers
 
2014-04-17 06:20:06 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: One of the best things about living in Southern California is how easy it is to find really great authentic Mexican food. Mexican Coke is also very easy to find. Just about every liquor store around carries it. I also think the glass bottle makes it somehow taste "cleaner", if that makes any sense.


You don't have to worry about any chemicals from the plastics leaching into the coke
 
2014-04-17 06:22:41 PM  

wax_on: Have a blind taste test. I bet nobody can tell the difference.


I can. I drink a lot of Coke in the UK, made with sugar. First time I visited the US I bought a can of Coke, took a sip and literally spat it out. I thought there was something wrong with it, like it had gone off. But no, that's just what US Coke, made with HFCS, tastes like.

/There could of course be other differences in ingredients, but sugar/HFCS is the only documented one.
//The UK had a spate of imported cans from Belgium a few years ago, also with a different ingredient list. Again I could spot them blind. If I forgot to check the can and drank from one I would always realise instantly it tasted awful and check the can. Yep, Belgian.
 
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