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(Slate)   A look at the design flaw that almost destroyed an NYC skyscraper. No, not thermite   (slate.com) divider line 19
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2014-04-17 03:37:34 PM
4 votes:
Subby misspelt Termite and wouldn't it be more than one?
2014-04-17 07:11:06 PM
3 votes:
Smeggy Smurf:
Only an idiot would believe in controlled demolition.

Counterpoint, I have visual proof that a jet fuel fire cannot damage a concrete/steel structure:

img.fark.net
2014-04-17 04:04:25 PM
3 votes:

Mikey1969: I figured it was going to be about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

Because a B-25 bomber crashing into your skyscraper is definitely NOT by design...


The Empire State Building was was over-enigneered, there is probably twice as much steel in that thing than absolutely necessary.  In a gale force wind I think the top floors sway only an inch or so, if that.  It is not however, resistant to giant ape attacks.
2014-04-17 03:43:16 PM
3 votes:

Mikey1969: I figured it was going to be about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

Because a B-25 bomber crashing into your skyscraper is definitely NOT by design...


Not with that attitude.
2014-04-17 04:20:40 PM
2 votes:

Eriond: I really hope he died at the plane's impact and didn't have to go through all of that while conscious...


I think you just gave Action Park a new ride idea for their grand re-opening.
2014-04-17 04:02:50 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, I ruled out thermite when you said "almost" subby.


/pass the tinfoil.
2014-04-17 03:59:08 PM
2 votes:

lostcat: I was expecting the article to talk about current day. Has the building's structure been altered in any way? Is just standing as is? Do people work there, and realize that it could collapse in strong wind?

Am I expecting too much from my journalists?


Do I have any reading comprehension?
2014-04-17 03:58:31 PM
2 votes:

archbishop: Personall, I hate the way NYC sounds and looks and try to avoid using it.


Yeah, especially in Wingdings.
2014-04-17 03:46:50 PM
2 votes:
A little light reading to kill some time in your 53rd floor office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_structural_failures_and_collaps es
2014-04-17 05:55:26 PM
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: Smeggy Smurf: Fissile: I tend to go off on on rambling tangents when it comes to architecture.

Do you wander around, tilting at windmills?


Nope, I fight gazebos
2014-04-17 04:42:33 PM
1 votes:
Subby, please don't wake up the Alex Jonesians. Let's just let sleeping retards lie.
2014-04-17 04:32:04 PM
1 votes:

Arkanaut: archbishop: Personall, I hate the way NYC sounds and looks and try to avoid using it.

Yeah, especially in Wingdings.


Sounds like something an antithermite would say.
2014-04-17 04:21:18 PM
1 votes:
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Your engineering degree should be more than "I'm really good at Simple Physics"
2014-04-17 04:11:20 PM
1 votes:

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: lindalouwho: archbishop: cwheelie: "an NYC"?

Yes, an enn-why-cee.  Personall, I hate the way NYC sounds and looks and try to avoid using it.  Never mind that the city's name is "New York" and not "New York City"

I had to stare at it for a minute to figure it out. I have never read NYC without saying New York City in my head.

I would think City is added to differentiate from the state of New York to avoid any potential confusion.

Is that what you imagine, is it?

But the again, he's never known acting to write home about. So therefore...this is nothing to write to home about?


You dolt!
2014-04-17 04:09:08 PM
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: Mikey1969: I figured it was going to be about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

Because a B-25 bomber crashing into your skyscraper is definitely NOT by design...

That's also the one and only time someone an Otis elevator's safety mechanisms failed. I'd say "our elevators can survive everything up to a direct hit by a B-25 bomber" is still a pretty good safety record.


Heh, came to this thread to post about the B-25 as well.  Very interesting story.

As for Otis, technically they didn't take a direct hit.  The building superstructure shielded them mostly.  Mostly.
2014-04-17 04:07:13 PM
1 votes:

The Bestest: ...also, I'm no architect, but my question would be, if the problem was fixed with some emergency welding, why wasn't it designed with those welds to begin with? Cost?


If only they had discussed that on the article...
2014-04-17 03:51:01 PM
1 votes:

keypusher: I worked in that building.  I think most people who do absolutely hate it.  Creaks like crazy in the wind, and it's just ugly, like lots of things from the 1970s.

http://failures.wikispaces.com/Citicorp+Center


What strikes me is that the iconic slanted roof was meant for solar panels, but apparently the building faced the wrong way? That seems like a pretty big oversight, no?
2014-04-17 03:45:20 PM
1 votes:

cwheelie: "an NYC"?


Yes, an enn-why-cee.  Personall, I hate the way NYC sounds and looks and try to avoid using it.  Never mind that the city's name is "New York" and not "New York City"
2014-04-17 03:40:01 PM
1 votes:
"an NYC"?
 
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