peterquince: Walking near the WTC (I work down the street), I heard some people discussing Sept 11. One of them said his uncle or his grandfather or whoeveritwas worked on the construction of the towers and they were built by mob-family-owned construction companies. And that they used less steel than the construction specs called for in order to save money.
The Bestest: ...also, I'm no architect, but my question would be, if the problem was fixed with some emergency welding, why wasn't it designed with those welds to begin with? Cost?
Mikey1969: I figured it was going to be about this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crashBecause a B-25 bomber crashing into your skyscraper is definitely NOT by design...
OKSteveOK: Hurts my brain to imagine the pucker factor experienced by the engineer when he figured out his building might fall down.
daisygrrl: That was the worst summary of the actual story that I have ever read. As mentioned above (and in the original news story that this idiot paraphrased), the design called for welding. Had the chevron supports been welded there wouldn't have been a farking problem. But no, people decided to bold the supports because the building code allowed it and it was cheaper. Only problem was they never asked the engineer why he called for welds. It was pure luck he found out before the thing blew over because that would have been one shiatstorm of a lawsuit otherwise.Jesus, Slate. Read the 20-year-old article you're paraphrasing. Then use your brain. fark.
DrunkWithImpotence: The Empire State Building was was over-enigneered, there is probably twice as much steel in that thing than absolutely necessary. In a gale force wind I think the top floors sway only an inch or so, if that. It is not however, resistant to giant ape attacks.
archbishop: cwheelie: "an NYC"?Yes, an enn-why-cee. Personall, I hate the way NYC sounds and looks and try to avoid using it. Never mind that the city's name is "New York" and not "New York City"
lostcat: I was expecting the article to talk about current day. Has the building's structure been altered in any way? Is just standing as is? Do people work there, and realize that it could collapse in strong wind?Am I expecting too much from my journalists?
keypusher: I worked in that building. I think most people who do absolutely hate it. Creaks like crazy in the wind, and it's just ugly, like lots of things from the 1970s.http://failures.wikispaces.com/Citicorp+Center
cwheelie: "an NYC"?
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