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(Oregon Live)   There are lots of things you can teach a six-year-old. How to ride a Harley Davidson by himself probably shouldn't be one of them   (oregonlive.com) divider line 106
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2014-04-17 12:48:53 PM
odd how in a world where you can watch videos of 18 family members on a moped driving on a highway in the developing world that this is shocking.
 
2014-04-17 01:04:23 PM
rideontoys.net

Bad to the bone
 
2014-04-17 01:06:38 PM
Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

piratenews.org

That being said, you have 60% of the braking and all of the throttle being controlled by a little kid. So basically you are giving that power over to someone with the maturity level of the average sport bike rider.
 
2014-04-17 02:05:41 PM
I find the kid riding in a t-shirt and shorts to be the offensive part of this video.  That's just bad parenting.
 
2014-04-17 02:27:03 PM
www.tetu.com
 
2014-04-17 02:28:37 PM
Got mixed emotions on this. Bet you can't wipe the smile off the kids face.

I bet the asphalt can.
 
2014-04-17 02:29:25 PM
This is just crazy. Harleys are expensive!
 
2014-04-17 02:34:27 PM
Did he crash? No? Then STFU subbs.
 
2014-04-17 02:35:28 PM
 
2014-04-17 02:38:20 PM
That is a bit much. Too many variables to assume all is well.

I stopped riding because all my years and experience can be wiped out by a bumbling chick texting on a cell phone. Too many close calls with people that don't farking seem to be aware they are driving.
 
2014-04-17 02:38:35 PM

unyon: I find the kid riding in a t-shirt and shorts to be the offensive part of this video.  That's just bad parenting.


^^^^THIS
 
2014-04-17 02:38:42 PM
Kid is at least wearing a helmet and that's doing better than most people that ride a Harley.

Hog riders, you know it's true.

/Squid Mildly responsible sport bike rider
 
2014-04-17 02:39:05 PM
Subby is also upset about dads letting their kids take the wheel for a bit in a car.

Fun is dead. Too many whiny knotted-pantie peeps desperate to try out their fainting couches.
 
2014-04-17 02:40:56 PM

That Guy Jeff: Too many whiny knotted-pantie peeps desperate to try out their fainting couches.


www.saltyseattle.com
 
2014-04-17 02:41:26 PM
my mom tells a story about the day she almost divorced my dad.

he was taking us to the beach on his motorcycle (an old honda from way back when).  He put me and my older brother in front of him (we were 3 and 5) and my little brother in backpack on his back (he was 1).

my dad was pulled over by a cop who was so horrified that he just told my dad to walk home, leave the bike, and he would personally make sure he suffered if he ever saw this happen again.

/ i still don't completely understand the outrage.  you put your kids at risk of death everytime you enter a car.  if you're on the highway and have an accident, the kids are probably dead no matter what you're driving.  at least with my dad's case, he was never going faster than 20 mph on small, uncrowded residential streets.  however, i still think it was stupid.  really stupid, like don't do it again stupid.  but not enough stupid for outrage.
 
2014-04-17 02:41:40 PM
The "danger" factor here was pretty low.  Had dad done this on an LA freeway or winding moutain road it would be all bad.  This just looks like a lot of fun.
 
2014-04-17 02:42:26 PM
Oh, I don't see anything terrible.  Straight road, dad's right there, and as far as speed, I don't have sound at work, but it could be anything from 30 mph up.  Kid's got helmet and glasses.  Yeah, he shouldn't be in t shirt and shorts, but still.

Nope, not getting anything on the outrage meter.
 
2014-04-17 02:43:46 PM
l2.yimg.com
 
2014-04-17 02:44:27 PM
Subbie lives in a city and buys into being safe over being free. Subscribes to HR mags and loves the Prius.
 
2014-04-17 02:45:48 PM
This discussion reminded me a racing 3-wheelers when we were 7 and turning too fast and eating sh*t. Good times.
 
2014-04-17 02:46:54 PM

probesport: [l2.yimg.com image 630x411]


Reminds me of the video of Shawn White skateboarding on a ramp with his dad, they collided and he was knocked out.
 
2014-04-17 02:48:00 PM
but what was better was learning you were going to tip so you get this cool ability to let out of the gas while on two wheels for a couple seconds, gravity brings you down, and then you give it hell again.
 
2014-04-17 02:48:57 PM
out = off

/$717
 
2014-04-17 02:48:59 PM
Idiot father and the next day....

i1181.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-17 02:49:03 PM
I ride... this isn't really all that horrible, but it sure would suck if he blew out a tire or had some other type of mechanical malfunction.
 
2014-04-17 02:49:50 PM

That Guy Jeff: Subby is also upset about dads letting their kids take the wheel for a bit in a car.

Fun is dead. Too many whiny knotted-pantie peeps desperate to try out their fainting couches.


Yeah, and driving the boat on a Canada fishing trip.  I don't know how we all survived.
 
2014-04-17 02:51:39 PM
Subby, are you saying that a 6 year old can't wait on the curb for a tow truck, next to a giant pool of oil?
 
2014-04-17 02:52:19 PM

belome: I ride... this isn't really all that horrible, but it sure would suck if he blew out a tire or had some other type of mechanical malfunction.


Um...aren't passengers supposed to ride in the back?
 
2014-04-17 02:52:20 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

[piratenews.org image 200x195]

That being said, you have 60% of the braking and all of the throttle being controlled by a little kid. So basically you are giving that power over to someone with the maturity level of the average sport bike rider.


 Erm...you do it by countersteering. Study it out.

 Your sport bike quip is mildly amusing, what, coming from someone who seems to know so little, but inject an opinion nonetheless.
 
2014-04-17 02:55:36 PM

dickfreckle: Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

[piratenews.org image 200x195]

That being said, you have 60% of the braking and all of the throttle being controlled by a little kid. So basically you are giving that power over to someone with the maturity level of the average sport bike rider.

 Erm...you do it by countersteering. Study it out.

 Your sport bike quip is mildly amusing, what, coming from someone who seems to know so little, but inject an opinion nonetheless.



 I'm out of line here. On phone and in a hurry. Also slightly drunk.
 
2014-04-17 02:56:14 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.


Absolutely incorrect. You steer the motorcycle by countersteering, and that involves the handlebars. People who think they are steering by leaning do not understand the mechanics. You countersteer to initiate the turn. If you don't believe me, take your bike up to about 60, take your hands off the bars, and try to take it through a corner just be leaning. When I'm taking a corner at 90, I push down HARD on the bars to snap into the turn. Any racer will tell you the same.
 
hej
2014-04-17 02:56:34 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.


Whether or not you *can* steer by leaning depends largely on how heavy your "bike" is (hint: most motorcycles are too heavy, including 1000lbs Hardleys).
 
2014-04-17 02:57:31 PM

That Guy Jeff: Subby is also upset about dads letting their kids take the wheel for a bit in a car.

Fun is dead. Too many whiny knotted-pantie peeps desperate to try out their fainting couches.


This.

People really need to lighten up.  With the gyroscopic forces in play, and the rider in control of the clutch and brake, the bike was committed to a straight line.
Yes its not the wisest move, but it is better parenting experience than most kids will get.


/Sitting on your father's lap and driving the family land yacht is practically an American tradition.
/At least it was, back when cars had enough room in the front for more than the driver.
 
2014-04-17 02:57:47 PM
I showed my 4 year old how to use the throttle on the farm ATV (Suzuki 180, not that powerful, only used to get around and carry a bucket of feed) a few weeks ago.

I forgot to explain to him that you don't need to push the throttle all the way in...almost ran into the barn.

Oh, and don't worry, I was on the ATV with him.  He laughed the entire time while I almost had a heart attack.

/ran into a tree with the same ATV when I was 6
 
2014-04-17 02:57:53 PM

ZeroPly: Any racer will tell you the same.


They will also tell me that it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile.

d1dd8kdpw4fh5z.cloudfront.net

Winning's winning.
 
2014-04-17 02:58:03 PM

ZeroPly: Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

Absolutely incorrect. You steer the motorcycle by countersteering, and that involves the handlebars. People who think they are steering by leaning do not understand the mechanics. You countersteer to initiate the turn. If you don't believe me, take your bike up to about 60, take your hands off the bars, and try to take it through a corner just be leaning. When I'm taking a corner at 90, I push down HARD on the bars to snap into the turn. Any racer will tell you the same.


That is 100% true, it has something to do with friction, physics, and some other stuff that I don't recall from my motorcycle safety course I took in 1990.
 
2014-04-17 02:59:52 PM
pute kisses like a man

Clever, but I avoid quoting troll-posts.
 
2014-04-17 03:03:02 PM

hej: Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

Whether or not you *can* steer by leaning depends largely on how heavy your "bike" is (hint: most motorcycles are too heavy, including 1000lbs Hardleys).


My 600cc sportbike has a dry weight of about 350lbs, and I can guarantee you there's no way you're going to get through even moderate twisties just by leaning. Even on the 250cc bikes, the guys who know how to handle them are all about countersteering. You're not going to be dragging knees just by leaning.
 
2014-04-17 03:03:53 PM

ZeroPly: Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

Absolutely incorrect. You steer the motorcycle by countersteering, and that involves the handlebars. People who think they are steering by leaning do not understand the mechanics. You countersteer to initiate the turn. If you don't believe me, take your bike up to about 60, take your hands off the bars, and try to take it through a corner just be leaning. When I'm taking a corner at 90, I push down HARD on the bars to snap into the turn. Any racer will tell you the same.


He clearly prefaced his comment with "Derp".  ;^>
 
2014-04-17 03:04:32 PM
Yeah, but if the kid starts riding at 6, just imagine how badass he'll be at 20
 
2014-04-17 03:07:47 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Derp, you don't steer a motorcycle with the handlebars. You steer it by leaning.

[piratenews.org image 200x195]

That being said, you have 60% of the braking and all of the throttle being controlled by a little kid. So basically you are giving that power over to someone with the maturity level of the average sport bike rider.


1. Wrong, Moron.  Bar input is required to initiate a change n direction.  Next time you think you have an opinion about something you know nothing about that you wish to share with the internet, shove a stapler up your ass instead.

2. The Father has the rear brake handy to regulate speed regardless of throttle input.  Also, how about you study out how gyroscopic precession works.

3. My dad did the -exact- same thing with me when I was a kid on his Honda CB-750K and we didn't end up dead.   Exactly the opposite, years later I have a case full of trophies from my motorcycle roadracing adventures.

Enjoy your bubble wrap, and try not to scream too loudly at the sound of your own farts.
 
2014-04-17 03:08:28 PM

CarrieWhite: And here's how not to do it.


Ugh. That was awful to read :(
 
2014-04-17 03:09:18 PM

Deacon Blue: Yeah, but if the kid starts riding at 6, just imagine how badass he'll be at 20


You mean with the big scar down his calf?  When I was a kid, my step mom came home from work one day and told me she just spent over an hour scrubbing gravel out of some biker's wounds.  (She was a nurse.)  "Don't ever get a motorcycle.  It's not worth it.  And, as much of a badass he was this morning, that guy was crying like a baby before I even got started with the stiff brush."

Of course, I got a motorcycle when I grew up.  Then another.  :)
 
2014-04-17 03:10:06 PM

dickfreckle: I'm out of line here. On phone and in a hurry. Also slightly drunk.


Well, shiat, I was trying to not come off as a know-it-all farknugget. But since several of you chimed in, I'm sticking with the original comment (calling out ignorance).

/knows everything about motorcycles
//except when I don't, and then I go to ADVrider
 
2014-04-17 03:11:35 PM

Deacon Blue: Yeah, but if the kid starts riding at 6, just imagine how badass he'll be at 20


Generally when you start them that young they're lapping you by the time they hit their teens...

www.singlecellracing.com
 
2014-04-17 03:12:41 PM
Crashed my Dad's Sportster at 12. Felt terrible about it. Fortunately, the shift peg and tank were the only damage, an easy fix that mom never found out about.
 
2014-04-17 03:16:45 PM
6 Years old? I was riding my own dirt bike at that age, nobody else on it. Age 7 and this kid already has somebody riding biatch with him. Mad props.

I'm more upset that the kid is riding around in shirt and shorts, least he has a helmet on. Damn rubbies.


/Rode around with my kid on my bike when he was 7, but I pussied out and didnt let him take my zx-11 for a spin on his own.
//Well I tried but it kept falling over since his feet couldnt stretch far enough.
 
2014-04-17 03:16:49 PM
As a responsible Society we must immediately:

1. Ban all parents
2. Ban all children
3. Ban all motorcycles

.. it's the only way.

*this message brought you by Bloomberg Safer America Campaign
 
2014-04-17 03:22:41 PM
But it's still okay for kids to have firearms, right?
 
2014-04-17 03:22:48 PM
A six year old can do it but they don't have the strength or weight to really control the bike. As they say, anyone can man the helm in calm seas.
 
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