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(Jezebel)   Nebraska elementary school gives fifth graders nine rules for how to deal with bullies, such as "Treat the bully like they're trying to help you" and "never, ever tell on them"   (jezebel.com) divider line 166
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2014-04-17 02:47:11 PM

Witness99: Wendy's Chili: They're not bullies, they're therapy job-creators.

You know, I've seen you in threads the last couple days but not a couple months ago when we actually had a thread about Wendy's Chili. And I told everyone, there's a person here on Fark called Wendy's Chili and he/she should chime in any moment now...but you never showed up.

One day, I tried Wendy's Chili and was surprised at how delicious it was. They should pay you.


You should have used his/her fark ID as the reason you came to Wendy's when you filled out the online survey on the receipt "Reason you came to Wendy's" "Some dude on an online forum had the name 'Wendy's Chili.' Totally elementary." At the very least you would have made some data-entry person's day.
 
2014-04-17 02:47:21 PM
What you don't want to do is talk shiat to bullies.  I used to be picked on a lot for reading quietly, listening to music, being skinny (read: easy target) and making good grades.  These assholes would fark with me unmercifully, pushing me into lockers, slapping the back of my head whenever they walked by.  Starting rumors involving me and various phallic vegetables (hehe, he likes it up the ass).  Well, I started embarrassing them in class or in front of girls whenever they said something that gave me an in...usually something stupid or obnoxious (i.e., must be tough being illiterate, and also not knowing the meaning of the word illiterate *class chuckles*).   However, this attitude put me in a world of hurt.  I eventually did fight back, which worked for about five days.  At this point, (even though I lost the first fight) they would make sure start fights with me as long as there were two or more assholes present, just to make sure.  Nothing worked until me, a couple of my friends and some other bullied kids (read:fat) banded together and pretty much just hung out in large groups, which deterred the physical assaults.  At that  point, they just kind of gave up trying to attack us and hurled the occasional insult every now and again.

tl,dr: Probably just better to go straight to the punching and overwhelming force when dealing with bullies
 
2014-04-17 02:48:55 PM

give me doughnuts: If they knock you down, take out one of their knees. After they fall down, you can kick them till they stop moving.
If they don't knock you down, kick/knee/punch them in the groin. After they fall down, you can kick them till they stop moving.


That's the Chicago way.
 
2014-04-17 02:50:07 PM
This arguably non-violent act worked for me a couple of times in grade and middle school:

Step 1: Run from bully.
Step 2: Lead bully over asphalt or gravel patch on playground.
Step 3: Just as he's catching up to you, drop to your hands and knees and form a turtle-like ball.
Step 4: Watch bully trip over your suddenly prone form and slide for feet across the gravel, carried by his own momentum.
Step 5: Enjoy sight of bully laying in the gravel in a sobbing, bloodied heap as you stand up, dust yourself off, and walk away.

Added bonus: it's indistinguishable from "I tripped as I was running for my life and the guy happened to trip over me while in hot pursuit."
 
2014-04-17 02:51:04 PM
I missed the rule where it said to stop being a little pussy. Although being a whiny little biatch was covered.
 
2014-04-17 02:51:29 PM
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And coming to Nebraska
 
2014-04-17 02:51:47 PM

Abuse Liability: What you don't want to do is talk shiat to bullies.  I used to be picked on a lot for reading quietly, listening to music, being skinny (read: easy target) and making good grades.  These assholes would fark with me unmercifully, pushing me into lockers, slapping the back of my head whenever they walked by.  Starting rumors involving me and various phallic vegetables (hehe, he likes it up the ass).  Well, I started embarrassing them in class or in front of girls whenever they said something that gave me an in...usually something stupid or obnoxious (i.e., must be tough being illiterate, and also not knowing the meaning of the word illiterate *class chuckles*).   However, this attitude put me in a world of hurt.  I eventually did fight back, which worked for about five days.  At this point, (even though I lost the first fight) they would make sure start fights with me as long as there were two or more assholes present, just to make sure.  Nothing worked until me, a couple of my friends and some other bullied kids (read:fat) banded together and pretty much just hung out in large groups, which deterred the physical assaults.  At that  point, they just kind of gave up trying to attack us and hurled the occasional insult every now and again.

tl,dr: Probably just better to go straight to the punching and overwhelming force when dealing with bullies



Indeed.  Get a half-dozen of your bully-victim cohorts, find the bully alone one night, and give him a cattle-prod to the crotch for 30 seconds or so.  That'll leave an impression he won't soon forget.

/ but no physical marks or proof of the event
 
2014-04-17 03:02:41 PM
"It takes to people to fight, so the person who responds is actualy the one starting the fight"

So the one who slams your face into the wall locker and then kicks you in the ribs for 10 minutes while you are lying on the ground is just making a polite suggestion that you engage into an altercation with him? So by that logic I can donkey punch some lady in the back of the head and then kick her in cooter and explain to the cops that I wasn't fighting since she didn't take a swing back at me.
 
2014-04-17 03:05:04 PM
You see, words are like bullets.
 
2014-04-17 03:13:11 PM

Delawheredad: In the  not too distant future males will have their balls amputated at birth sand returned to them after they finish college.


Yes because beating up someone smaller than you is a great sign of Masculinity ...or was that a sign a a small dicked closeted gay?  I get them mixed up.
 
2014-04-17 03:24:10 PM

strife: I always wished my parents would have told me, "smash their faces in with the biggest textbook you have and we'll tell the teachers and other brat's parents to go to hell later."

/that's probably what I'll tell my kids if I ever have any


Had a few conferences at school wherein I was informed that one monster or the other was bullying. The school never could figure out my laughing reaction - I mean, where were you all when I was growing up? I actually TOLD people (family, school officials, etc.) about it, but was told to "toughen" myself. How in the hell does a nerd girl do that, actually? (No one ever gave me instructions.)

So my kids bully somebody else's? GOOD. Frankly, I hope the children of my old bullies are the targets.

/Karma's a biatch, isn't it?
 
2014-04-17 03:24:47 PM
I think whoever wrote that should use this advice in their daily lives.

Boss pinches your butt then starts stalking you? Don't tell the police, be afraid, or get mad .. treat him as if he's trying to help you.

Co-worker says you groped her? Don't verbally defend yourself. If you verbally defend yourself you lose.
 
2014-04-17 03:25:01 PM

Pincy: theprinceofwands: Sick and wrong. I was mercilessly bullied as a kid. I can tell you there is only one rule for dealing with a bully: learn to defend yourself, and use that skill to beat your attackers within an inch of their life. THAT is the only effective means to stop bullying and improve your situation.

I somewhat agree with the sentiment but not all kids who are bullied are able to defend themselves.  They may have physical/mental limitations.  So what do those kids do?  Also, if you are being bullied by a group of people then defending yourself might not work even if you tried.

Yes, don't let yourself be a pushover, but the "learn to defend yourself" answer doesn't always work.  Something needs to be done about the bully.  Otherwise we are just going to end up with even more Columbines.


This.
 
2014-04-17 03:26:32 PM
#12: Body slam.
 
2014-04-17 03:27:44 PM
There is this ridiculous notion that because they're all 8 and in the same school they have to be friends.
 
2014-04-17 03:27:53 PM

MythDragon: What_do_you_want_now: FloridaFarkTag: JerkyMeat: Rule #1 - Use overwhelming force to permanently disable the bully.

That should be rule #1

The only way you stop bullying is to defend yourself. Nothing stops a bully more than a fat lip and a black eye

We have a bullying problem because PsychoBabblelists value attackers more than those who defend themselves

<CSB>
In elementary school I was bullied pretty often, mostly because I would just sit and read books rather than play. I was new in town (military parents who moved often) and had no friends, so I was a prime target. I also had a streak of insurrection which continues to this day so I would do my best to not let the bully have his way.

One day a bully blindsides me and smashes my face into the ground. He walks away laughing and I go tell a teacher who said "We didn't see it so we can't enforce it.". When I got home, my father asked me what happened and I told him. He is the most understanding and underestimated badass I've ever known (He was Air Force Special Forces, 6'2 and incredibly fit, and has confirmed kills with both rifle and knife) and told me if a bully ever did that to me that I should immediately try to beat his ass. He also said if I got in trouble for it he would be there to tell off the school about their treatment.

Two days pass, bully does it again. I snap and go apeshiat on him and wind up giving him more than he bargained for. Teacher breaks us up and I am "the aggressor" and get immediate ISS. It took my father only 15 minutes of getting the phone call to come down to the school and have heated words with the administration about their "farking idiocy" and "knee-jerk stupidity" having me in trouble for defending myself.

Needless to say the resource officer was called, and a discussion happened. I have no farking clue how it went down but I had the administrator come out and apologize to me. He then asks for the bully's name and calls him in. The bully is then told he is not only su ...


I was lucky enough as a kid to be "mostly" a cool kid and under the radar of the UltraFarks. I was in fact confronted with a beating  out of the blue (apparently something tweaked this idiots brain to subject lesser sized people to his wrath). I turned to him and stood straight and told him to go ahead and do it. "You are twice my size... of course you can beat me up. If it makes you feel better, go ahead!, I'll give you the first shot..." and jutted my jaw to him and waited...and waited... said "so nothing then?", and walked away, he never bothered me again and a couple years later, we were still OK and he seemed to be less aggressive than he was then, hope I was part of showing him what was what in dealing with others.
 
2014-04-17 03:29:09 PM
Prescription for Bully

www.adslgr.com
 
2014-04-17 03:30:31 PM

Dr Dreidel: Some of these are dumb, no question - specifically 4, 7, and 8. 6 is mostly dumb, but just sort of useless (it reiterates point 2).

Aren't 1 and 2 (ironically enough) just rehashings of the teachings of Buddha? Anger as expression of internal conflict and pain, and responding to anger with anger only breeds more anger; while responding with love (a Jesusian ideal, which is, I suspect, where it "really" came from) is best?

3 is common sense - I was bullied in grade school, and showing fear was a great way to let the kid know he was winning. 5 is as well - NEVER be the first to throw a punch (and if you can help it, try not to be the second, either).

And while 9 is dumb as regards bullies, it's good life advice overall. If you can't or don't laugh at yourself, you will quickly find that others readily pick up your slack.


Wow, you're quick. I came here to make some of the same points, only to note that this isn't so much "rehashing" as "complete dumbing-down plus minus necessary context" of Buddhism.  As an adult following the Buddhist path, one can learn to withhold anger, show compassion in the face of meanness, learn from adversity, deal with problems by learning to define them as life-changing opportunities, view the world as something that can be improved by changing oneself first, practice moderation and avoid suffering, and so forth.

Children, though, have neither the control over themselves or their environment that this requires.  And just as a Buddhist actually requires someone else to ready to do violence to bad men in order to survive (one of the reasons I no longer follow the Buddhist path), children can't survive by turning the other cheek to bullies.  In their vulnerable state, this is like suggesting the children that Gerry Sandusky victimized should have just tried to learn something about themselves from his actions.  No. Children need protection, and need to learn to protect themselves first, by whatever means.  Fight back, tell authorities, use mind games, be rude (as Miss Manners would say, the polite child should be taught that not all adults or children behave decently, and if this happens, all the ordinary rules of polite behavior should go out the window).  Whatever needs to be done.
 
2014-04-17 03:32:49 PM
Rule 1 - don't draw an attack
Rule 2 - fight back early, fight back hard
Rule 3 - success is the best revenge
 
2014-04-17 03:36:56 PM
A kid at the school where my wife teaches recently was suspended for "retaliating" against the kid who had just cut him with a knife. Seriously.

Bullies find kids who don't want to get into trouble and target them because they won't fight back. I tell my son to stand up for himself. If you're not in trouble with me, you're not in trouble. Of course, if you get in trouble at school for a legitimate reason, you will be in trouble with me.
 
2014-04-17 03:37:26 PM

Private_Citizen: That's some of the worst advice I've seen in years. Could you imagine that being adapted for an anti rape program?


What makes you think it isn't a prototype? After all, start training the victims young, and there'll be far fewer problems with uppity wimmin in the future.
 
2014-04-17 03:37:44 PM

MythDragon: [www.impulsegamer.com image 556x414]
Knows how to deal with bullies.

"I didn't just want to win that fight, I wanted to win all the nexts ones too, right then, so they'd leave me alone"


100% This (When warranted ... 99.99999 of the time .. friggin' dysfunctional asshats)
 
2014-04-17 03:38:21 PM

Delawheredad: In the  not too distant future males will have their balls amputated at birth sand returned to them after they finish college.


They won't be returned. Likewise, little girls will all be pre-emptively raped by school authorities and instructed to not tell the police, since that would be like "telling on" a bully.
 
2014-04-17 03:39:46 PM

jshine: Snitches get stitches.


And then they nurse passive-aggressive hatred for years until they finally get the opportunity to build that gasoline bomb that takes out the WHOLE farkING CITY BLOCK!
 
2014-04-17 03:42:40 PM

JohnCarter: Favorite is #4 - Do not verbally defend yourselves (that's not the best part) the best is why - We defend ourselves from enemies

Thus the implication is the bully is not the enemy.  Who the hell wrote this?  Maybe this is an Onion article?


no, this is the marxist dictum that 'individualism' is bad, as expressede by the marxist teacher unions. see also:stand your ground.
 
2014-04-17 03:43:18 PM
I can't wait to see their handout on child molestation and rape.
 
2014-04-17 03:46:40 PM

Iowan73: A kid at the school where my wife teaches recently was suspended for "retaliating" against the kid who had just cut him with a knife. Seriously.

Bullies find kids who don't want to get into trouble and target them because they won't fight back. I tell my son to stand up for himself. If you're not in trouble with me, you're not in trouble. Of course, if you get in trouble at school for a legitimate reason, you will be in trouble with me.


We have come to the point of affluence and ignorance that our kids run the gamut of what boils down to guerrilla warfare., not so much when I was a kid, a fight was maybe a bloodying experience, but not fatal, but there all the same. No problemo, you suck it up and learn. Now...not so much and age doesn't seem to matter... Crazy  bastards, and blame the parents quite frankly. But at the same time...we can't beat the little shiats into line without repercussions either. So... what is one to do with this?
 
2014-04-17 03:47:37 PM
The only kid to ever give me bullying trouble joined the marines and got blown to bits in Iraq. 

Nelsonhaha.jpg
 
2014-04-17 03:48:00 PM

Do you think the school's lawyers reviewed the rules


before they published a list that included


"Don't tell the adults bad things are happening" ?

 
2014-04-17 03:52:06 PM
Cool Dialogue Sis:

[Friday at junior high]

Head bully: We're going to kill you this weekend.

Me, scornfully: No you won't!

Head bully: Oh, why not?!?

Me: Because then you wouldn't have anybody to pick on on Monday.

Bullies: ... [walk away with confused expressions]

Me: [still alive]
 
2014-04-17 03:54:16 PM
It's Nebraska, so DUH, they don't want to expel their best football players.
 
2014-04-17 03:56:43 PM
While I was bullied a bit as a kid, it was mostly verbal, only happened once or twice a year before 5th grade.  There was a bad period with some jerks who thought they'd make a target out of me for a year, but after their ringleader wasn't allowed to come back (private school, and more to do with his bad grades) it died off.

The one time I got in a physical altercation was with another bullied kid of all things.  Apparently he thought I was stealing his girlfriend.  He was a little touched in the head, or more accurately his mom was in a car accident while she was pregnant and he came out not quite right.  As un-PC as it may be, that phrase "retard strength" really has a basis in reality.  Dude knocked me to the ground and straddled my chest.  I guess I was so intent on getting him off my chest I completely didn't notice him punching me in the face repeatedly.  I only found out after I managed to hook my foot around his neck and throw him to the ground, and a friend asked if my face hurt.  Oh yeah, it hurt THEN, thanks for reminding me, you jerk. :P

Still, weird as it sounds, getting punched in the face repeatedly was a good experience.  After I realized that it didn't hurt nearly as bad as you might expect, it made me fear physical altercations a lot less.  Yeah, I'd flinch a bit still when the threat of physical violence came up, but if pressed on it I could always fall back on "eh, you've already been punched in the face and it wasn't so bad."  Whatever that did to my outward appearance it apparently took the fun of following through out of it for the bullies.

I guess my advice to a young bullied kid would be "go get punched in the face a few times, it's not as bad as you think."  Bit hard to arrange that in the current helicopter parent bubble wrap environment, but there are options.  Martial arts classes, asking a friend to do it.  Just make sure if you as a friend that you don't do it where people can see you giggling about it or people will get some weiiiirrrddd ideas.
 
2014-04-17 03:58:04 PM

DemonStrayted: Iowan73: A kid at the school where my wife teaches recently was suspended for "retaliating" against the kid who had just cut him with a knife. Seriously.

Bullies find kids who don't want to get into trouble and target them because they won't fight back. I tell my son to stand up for himself. If you're not in trouble with me, you're not in trouble. Of course, if you get in trouble at school for a legitimate reason, you will be in trouble with me.

We have come to the point of affluence and ignorance that our kids run the gamut of what boils down to guerrilla warfare., not so much when I was a kid, a fight was maybe a bloodying experience, but not fatal, but there all the same. No problemo, you suck it up and learn. Now...not so much and age doesn't seem to matter... Crazy  bastards, and blame the parents quite frankly. But at the same time...we can't beat the little shiats into line without repercussions either. So... what is one to do with this?


/When fighting happened, spent most of the aftermath of battle day shaking hands
//missing the cavalier/knighthood of battleground honor... apparently no more
///Slashies
 
2014-04-17 04:04:42 PM

yukichigai: I guess my advice to a young bullied kid would be "go get punched in the face a few times, it's not as bad as you think."


Do you work for a Nebraska school district?
 
2014-04-17 04:14:27 PM

albatros183: Rule #1 Stab the school administrators with a very large knife
Rule #2 Stab the bully with a very large knife
Rule #3 Stab the school board with a very large knife
Rule #4 Stab local Republicans and Liberals with a very large knife
Rule #5 Declare independence and stab anyone that disagrees with you with a very large knife
Rule #6 Don't talk about stab club


Rule #7 DON'T TALK ABOUT KNIFE CLUB!!!
 
2014-04-17 04:14:46 PM
It tells the kid to stand up for themselves.
There is no issue with that.

Now, idiots that tell their kids "report them!", and "run to a teacher!", those I have a problem with.
Learn to take care of yourself, no one else is going to do it for you later on.

/no, I don't care about your children
// I punched my bully. He quit.
 
2014-04-17 04:18:15 PM

What_do_you_want_now: tl;dr -> Fight back, bullies hate kids with spines.


CSB and good advice to boot. Glad it turned out the way it did.
 
2014-04-17 04:25:16 PM

MythDragon: "It takes to people to fight, so the person who responds is actualy the one starting the fight"


Yeah, not quite sure where that mentality comes from, but it's always fun to remind them that the courts/police/press (they especially don't like drawing attention from the last one) have a tendency to disagree.

So long as it doesn't interrupt their lives, I truly think that many adults in the education system would let the kids wipe each other out if they could allow it.
 
2014-04-17 04:28:50 PM
CF'S MAD AWESOME TIPS FOR DEALING WITH BULLYS

1.  Figure out why the bully is targeting you, maybe you're the problem and you should change yourself to fit in with a judgmental and unsympathetic society

2.  Watch every episode of "Saved by the Bell" one of them has to have been about bullying

3.  Make friends with a Latino gang, have your new gang friends drive you to school and pick you up

4.  Make a trolling political comment on a FARK thread that has nothing to politics, someone will take the bait and you'll feel superior for a bit.

5.  Find weaker more socially awkward kids to be your friends, bullies survival instincts will kick in and they will go for them

6.  All these liberals are saying that punching bullies is the only way to stop bullying but banning guns is the only way to keep us safe from gun violence. Come on libs, make up your mind.

7.  If you can just hold out until high school is over, you'll find out that life is fair and adults are kind and thoughtful towards each other.
 
2014-04-17 04:34:12 PM

trippdogg: letrole: In Sweden, bullies are identified early on in grade school. Rather than suppress the trait, the bullies are taught to think of themselves as 'sheep dogs', and their classmates are the flock they protect. They still 'bully' and sometimes berate, but with their behaviour corrected to a useful, or at least more benign role.

Probably a cultural trait that contributed to Sweden's glorious role in WWII.   A lot of sheep herding going on there.


Soon the Swedes will have Halal sheepdogs.
 
2014-04-17 04:35:36 PM
Yeah whomever wrote this is...not someone who has ever been bullied or knows how to handle bullying.

They might as well have written:

1. Step one, become very attractive.
2. Use your attractiveness to become popular.
3. Make fun of other less attractive people.
4. Make sure you hand them an anti-bullying list so they won't tattle on you.
 
2014-04-17 04:54:08 PM

Raoul Eaton: FloridaFarkTag: JerkyMeat: Rule #1 - Use overwhelming force to permanently disable the bully.

That should be rule #1

The only way you stop bullying is to defend yourself. Nothing stops a bully more than a fat lip and a black eye

We have a bullying problem because PsychoBabblelists value attackers more than those who defend themselves


That may sound good in theory, but most bullies get where they are because they're skilled at bullying.  Keep in mind the bully may well have fighting skills honed by defending himself against drunk/abusive parents or older siblings, and if you're a regular dweeby kid trying to throw a punch, you're going to get the snot beat out of you.  Christmas Story comuppances pretty much are confined to stories written by adults based on wishful thinking.


Not true at all. In point of fact there's a very high rate of confrontation ending bullying, even when not 'winning that one fight'.

Bullies get where they are because people don't stand up to them. All it takes is opposition, ANY opposition, and most stop. What's more, many bullies are utter cowards who are initial aggressors to prevent potential harm. The moment their actions cause, or even increase the risk of causing personal loss, they either move on to other targets, or modify their behavior completely.

I say this as a former bully target, and as an academic who has spent a lot of time studying bullying and self-defense from various social science disciplines.
 
2014-04-17 04:57:47 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: It's Nebraska, so DUH, they don't want to expel their best football players.


I LOL'd

/Lincolnite
//wife works for the public schools
///go big red
 
2014-04-17 05:01:09 PM

theprinceofwands: Raoul Eaton: FloridaFarkTag: JerkyMeat: Rule #1 - Use overwhelming force to permanently disable the bully.

That should be rule #1

The only way you stop bullying is to defend yourself. Nothing stops a bully more than a fat lip and a black eye

We have a bullying problem because PsychoBabblelists value attackers more than those who defend themselves


That may sound good in theory, but most bullies get where they are because they're skilled at bullying.  Keep in mind the bully may well have fighting skills honed by defending himself against drunk/abusive parents or older siblings, and if you're a regular dweeby kid trying to throw a punch, you're going to get the snot beat out of you.  Christmas Story comuppances pretty much are confined to stories written by adults based on wishful thinking.

Not true at all. In point of fact there's a very high rate of confrontation ending bullying, even when not 'winning that one fight'.

Bullies get where they are because people don't stand up to them. All it takes is opposition, ANY opposition, and most stop. What's more, many bullies are utter cowards who are initial aggressors to prevent potential harm. The moment their actions cause, or even increase the risk of causing personal loss, they either move on to other targets, or modify their behavior completely.

I say this as a former bully target, and as an academic who has spent a lot of time studying bullying and self-defense from various social science disciplines.


This... See previous post...
 
2014-04-17 05:06:07 PM

DemonStrayted: theprinceofwands: Raoul Eaton: FloridaFarkTag: JerkyMeat: Rule #1 - Use overwhelming force to permanently disable the bully.

That should be rule #1

The only way you stop bullying is to defend yourself. Nothing stops a bully more than a fat lip and a black eye

We have a bullying problem because PsychoBabblelists value attackers more than those who defend themselves


That may sound good in theory, but most bullies get where they are because they're skilled at bullying.  Keep in mind the bully may well have fighting skills honed by defending himself against drunk/abusive parents or older siblings, and if you're a regular dweeby kid trying to throw a punch, you're going to get the snot beat out of you.  Christmas Story comuppances pretty much are confined to stories written by adults based on wishful thinking.

Not true at all. In point of fact there's a very high rate of confrontation ending bullying, even when not 'winning that one fight'.

Bullies get where they are because people don't stand up to them. All it takes is opposition, ANY opposition, and most stop. What's more, many bullies are utter cowards who are initial aggressors to prevent potential harm. The moment their actions cause, or even increase the risk of causing personal loss, they either move on to other targets, or modify their behavior completely.

I say this as a former bully target, and as an academic who has spent a lot of time studying bullying and self-defense from various social science disciplines.

This... See previous post...


Ah, the one above clemkadidlefark's King Slap gif...
 
2014-04-17 06:04:52 PM

Any Pie Left: Sometimes, hitting the bully stops it.  Unless the bully is a true sociopath, in which case, he gets three friends to help him jump you to "even the score" and re-establish dominance, using your face. While it always works in movies, in real life, physically fighting back gives even odds of escalating the violence.


you sound like a pussy.
 
2014-04-17 06:31:51 PM

menschenfresser: I remember how this worked in middle school just fine: The guy holding my arm and forcing me to punch my own face would repeatedly ask me "why are you punching yourself?". This article is correct; it was clearly my own fault that I was being punched.


Well, as long as you didn't retaliate against yourself. That's the important thing.
 
2014-04-17 06:45:44 PM
how about we just wrap bullies in chains and throw them in the ocean, a deep lake or pond or river
Oh, and their parents too
 
2014-04-17 06:57:33 PM
My father was a cop when I was in middle school.  He told me to pretty much defend my self and he would stick up for me.  I threw the only bully who bothered me into the lockers and held him there with his feet off the ground, yelling at him "Do you have a f*cking problem or something you want to discuss with me?"  After that he left me alone, and all was better in the world.
 
2014-04-17 07:12:58 PM
It's fascinating how almost every single man (obviously) in this thread equates "bullying" to "physical violence".  In this day and age, it is rarely physical violence even amongst boys, so there's no fight to win.  So quit it with your outdated fantasies of sexual gratification via violence.

I have had a couple of relatives recently mercilessly bullied over a couple of years at school.  One of them is okay, but it caused the other one to develop a severe anxiety disorder (to the point of hallucinations, that's how severe).  Never once was there any physical violence.
 
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