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(Military Times)   Congressman says satire article about PTSD was "in poor taste and hurtful to our veterans." Problem: Satire site is "The Duffel Blog", a site run by veterans, with articles written by veterans, and hugely popular with veterans   (blogs.militarytimes.com) divider line 42
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2014-04-17 12:24:59 PM
You'd think they'd learn not to fall for the these satirical web-sites.  Mitch McConnel fell for a Duffel Bag article a couple of years ago also.
 
2014-04-17 12:38:01 PM
yes it certainly is impossible for veterans to do anything to hurt the cause of veterans
 
2014-04-17 12:42:50 PM
I don't think it was the article itself he was against. I think it was the fact that they specifically called him out as the "sponsor" of the legislation that he didn't like. And that might have something to do with the fact, maybe, that the vast majority of people who might conceivably encounter this article online have never heard of "The Duffel Blog" before and have absolutely no idea it's supposed to be a satire site.
 
2014-04-17 12:46:44 PM

Pocket Ninja: I don't think it was the article itself he was against. I think it was the fact that they specifically called him out as the "sponsor" of the legislation that he didn't like. And that might have something to do with the fact, maybe, that the vast majority of people who might conceivably encounter this article online have never heard of "The Duffel Blog" before and have absolutely no idea it's supposed to be a satire site.


wait are you telling me that satirizing a congressman who has worked for years for veteran's rights as being against veteran's rights might in some way be harmful to the cause of veterans?

impossible, the article was written BY veterans
 
2014-04-17 01:08:49 PM

mrshowrules: You'd think they'd learn not to fall for the these satirical web-sites.  Mitch McConnel fell for a Duffel Bag article a couple of years ago also.


Wait that guy isn't just a duffel bag someone left?
 
2014-04-17 01:13:37 PM
What a Moran
 
2014-04-17 01:52:59 PM

Tigger: mrshowrules: You'd think they'd learn not to fall for the these satirical web-sites.  Mitch McConnel fell for a Duffel Bag article a couple of years ago also.

Wait that guy isn't just a duffel bag someone left?


Luggage doesn't toe tap between the stalls in the bathrooms in DC Airports.
 
2014-04-17 01:54:19 PM
But... he was called... by those veterans... because they were offended...

\Somedays I just can't wade through the stupid
 
2014-04-17 01:56:17 PM

hardinparamedic: Tigger: mrshowrules: You'd think they'd learn not to fall for the these satirical web-sites.  Mitch McConnel fell for a Duffel Bag article a couple of years ago also.

Wait that guy isn't just a duffel bag someone left?

Luggage doesn't toe tap between the stalls in the bathrooms in DC Airports.


What if the contents of the duffel bag were Larry Craig?
 
2014-04-17 01:56:18 PM
Please won't someone think of the children veterans.  Politicians just love the veterans when it lines up with what they already think and want.
 
2014-04-17 01:57:12 PM
With Jim Moran, they're lucky he didn't start throwing literal punches.
 
2014-04-17 02:06:06 PM
Good people with a good sense of humor.

FTFA: The Duffel Blog spokesman responded in typical fashion, quipping that the congressman "deserves a substantial pay raise for his handling of this incident. $174,000 per year is not nearly enough for the important work he and all members of Congress are not doing." "...It is regrettable that Moran's unpaid interns have been forced to answer phones and emails about his mention in a recent article - the horror," the spokesman told The Hill.
 
2014-04-17 02:10:05 PM

Lionel Mandrake: What a Moran


It's not often that this turns out to have two completely true meanings.
 
2014-04-17 02:16:14 PM
Moran is what Moran does.


/Saw the article, snickered.
//Former Army
 
2014-04-17 02:24:40 PM
Get a brain, Moran!
 
2014-04-17 02:26:41 PM

Jackson Herring: yes it certainly is impossible for veterans to do anything to hurt the cause of veterans


True, they're far better off seen and not heard.
 
2014-04-17 02:37:34 PM
OK, I'm confused here, is it just me, or is this article written by a monkey with a hard on?

Satirical website puts out a joke story

People complain to the Congressman who is tagged in the story

Congressman states that he had nothing to do with the story and point out that PTSD is wildly misunderstood

Article author slams Congressman for "not getting the joke" and issuing a statement

The satirical website's spokesman can't say anything other than to make another quip about how little the Congressman does

And then goes on to make another quip
---------------------------------------------------

So when pissed off people who can't tell satire from real life, start complaining and the Congressman responds, it's the Congressman's fault, and he's not supposed to do anything, or he's opening himself up for ridicule?

Like I said, maybe I'm reading the story wrong, but IMHO, the satirical site should be apologizing(Actually apologizing, not making jokes) for hanging this guy's ass out in the wind, since it doesn't appear that he has done anything wrong.

It IS pretty funny in the context of it all that his name is "Moran", though.
 
2014-04-17 02:41:55 PM

Mikey1969: So when pissed off people who can't tell satire from real life, start complaining and the Congressman responds, it's the Congressman's fault, and he's not supposed to do anything, or he's opening himself up for ridicule?


That's how I read it.
 
2014-04-17 02:44:51 PM

Mikey1969: OK, I'm confused here, is it just me, or is this article written by a monkey with a hard on?

Satirical website puts out a joke story

People complain to the Congressman who is tagged in the story

Congressman states that he had nothing to do with the story and point out that PTSD is wildly misunderstood

Article author slams Congressman for "not getting the joke" and issuing a statement

The satirical website's spokesman can't say anything other than to make another quip about how little the Congressman does

And then goes on to make another quip
---------------------------------------------------

So when pissed off people who can't tell satire from real life, start complaining and the Congressman responds, it's the Congressman's fault, and he's not supposed to do anything, or he's opening himself up for ridicule?

Like I said, maybe I'm reading the story wrong, but IMHO, the satirical site should be apologizing(Actually apologizing, not making jokes) for hanging this guy's ass out in the wind, since it doesn't appear that he has done anything wrong.

It IS pretty funny in the context of it all that his name is "Moran", though.


It sounds like the Congressman called the Duffel Bag article hurtful and damaging to veterans.  That is what the Duffel Bag writer was responding to when he said the Congressman didn't get the joke. If the Congressman had just put out a statement saying it was a satire piece that he wasn't involved with then Duffel bag wouldn't have responded to him.
 
2014-04-17 02:51:19 PM
Nobody who reads Duffel Blog is worth a damn.  The veterans who do tend to be on the derp side, and the civilians who do tend to be more derped than the vets.  The worst are the idiots who herpaderp their way onto it and then don't get that it's a steaming pile of shiat.

/Veteran
//Doesn't do "veteran" things because of how stupid most vets look
///Seriously, fark those guys
 
2014-04-17 02:54:57 PM

Pocket Ninja: I don't think it was the article itself he was against. I think it was the fact that they specifically called him out as the "sponsor" of the legislation that he didn't like. And that might have something to do with the fact, maybe, that the vast majority of people who might conceivably encounter this article online have never heard of "The Duffel Blog" before and have absolutely no idea it's supposed to be a satire site.


this
 
2014-04-17 02:56:58 PM

odinsposse: It sounds like the Congressman called the Duffel Bag article hurtful and damaging to veterans.  That is what the Duffel Bag writer was responding to when he said the Congressman didn't get the joke. If the Congressman had just put out a statement saying it was a satire piece that he wasn't involved with then Duffel bag wouldn't have responded to him.


And everybody would have totes gotten the joke and left him alone.... Seriously, this is the ONLY way the dude could respond, even after this, there are going to be a bunch of people still blaming this guy...
 
2014-04-17 02:59:46 PM

IvanTheSilent: Nobody who reads Duffel Blog is worth a damn.  The veterans who do tend to be on the derp side, and the civilians who do tend to be more derped than the vets.  The worst are the idiots who herpaderp their way onto it and then don't get that it's a steaming pile of shiat.

/Veteran
//Doesn't do "veteran" things because of how stupid most vets look
///Seriously, fark those guys


Come now, you didn't find this at least chuckle worthy?

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/female-army-ranger/
 
2014-04-17 03:09:29 PM

Mikey1969: odinsposse: It sounds like the Congressman called the Duffel Bag article hurtful and damaging to veterans.  That is what the Duffel Bag writer was responding to when he said the Congressman didn't get the joke. If the Congressman had just put out a statement saying it was a satire piece that he wasn't involved with then Duffel bag wouldn't have responded to him.

And everybody would have totes gotten the joke and left him alone.... Seriously, this is the ONLY way the dude could respond, even after this, there are going to be a bunch of people still blaming this guy...


Oh, no. Of course there are people who won't recognize the satire. What I'm saying is that Duffel Bag wouldn't have needed to respond to him if the Congressman had just said "It's a satire piece, dummies. I had nothing to do with this," without adding "and that satire piece hurt veterans."
 
2014-04-17 03:14:56 PM

odinsposse: Mikey1969: odinsposse: It sounds like the Congressman called the Duffel Bag article hurtful and damaging to veterans.  That is what the Duffel Bag writer was responding to when he said the Congressman didn't get the joke. If the Congressman had just put out a statement saying it was a satire piece that he wasn't involved with then Duffel bag wouldn't have responded to him.

And everybody would have totes gotten the joke and left him alone.... Seriously, this is the ONLY way the dude could respond, even after this, there are going to be a bunch of people still blaming this guy...

Oh, no. Of course there are people who won't recognize the satire. What I'm saying is that Duffel Bag wouldn't have needed to respond to him if the Congressman had just said "It's a satire piece, dummies. I had nothing to do with this," without adding "and that satire piece hurt veterans."


I totally get that, i just feel like this guy was farked whichever way he turned. Oh well, at least the satire isn't pointing out that someone is an asshole for a change, that's kind of nice. Usually these are specifically targeted at someone because of stuff they have done or said, so we just end up hating that person worse.
 
2014-04-17 03:29:42 PM

theknuckler_33: Pocket Ninja: I don't think it was the article itself he was against. I think it was the fact that they specifically called him out as the "sponsor" of the legislation that he didn't like. And that might have something to do with the fact, maybe, that the vast majority of people who might conceivably encounter this article online have never heard of "The Duffel Blog" before and have absolutely no idea it's supposed to be a satire site.

this


If it was an off the cuff remark while in public, maybe. But if you are issuing a prepared statement, do 30 seconds research. Seriously his aid could have looked it up in 30 seconds on his phone.

You just need to read the first like of the wiki article or this from the "about us" page:

"We are in no way, shape, or form, a real news outlet. Everything on this website is satirical and the content of this site is a parody of a news organization. No composition should be regarded as truthful, and no reference of an individual, company, or military unit seeks to inflict malice or emotional harm."
 
2014-04-17 03:37:15 PM

Pocket Ninja: I don't think it was the article itself he was against. I think it was the fact that they specifically called him out as the "sponsor" of the legislation that he didn't like. And that might have something to do with the fact, maybe, that the vast majority of people who might conceivably encounter this article online have never heard of "The Duffel Blog" before and have absolutely no idea it's supposed to be a satire site.


I loathe this excuse.  If you come across a site you've never heard of before and there's an article on there that angers or upsets you, do some research.  Giving people the excuse that they didn't know a site is satire is giving them an excuse for being lazy.

Anyway, Moran knew it was satire, reminded people on his website that it was satire, but decided to complain about Duffel Blog "trivializing" PTSD by poking fun at it.  Obviously, Moran doesn't know how satire is supposed to work.  He should have used the article as a soap box and yelled at the rest of Congress for the giant backlog of VA compensation benefits.  "See this, Congress?  This is what we look like.  This is why we need to stop giving $74M to NASCAR and maybe look into some counseling for returning vets."  He would have furthered his cause and put the spotlight where it belongs.
 
2014-04-17 03:44:18 PM
llwproductions.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-17 03:56:18 PM
I can't believe no one here caught this from the original Duffel Blog article -
The Fortify & Unite Communities to Keep Veterans' External Threats Secure Act (H.R. 1874)
 
2014-04-17 04:15:50 PM

NkThrasher: IvanTheSilent: Nobody who reads Duffel Blog is worth a damn.  The veterans who do tend to be on the derp side, and the civilians who do tend to be more derped than the vets.  The worst are the idiots who herpaderp their way onto it and then don't get that it's a steaming pile of shiat.

/Veteran
//Doesn't do "veteran" things because of how stupid most vets look
///Seriously, fark those guys

Come now, you didn't find this at least chuckle worthy?

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/female-army-ranger/


I did. Once you understand that it is lampooning the uber-macho culture of the special forces, it is pretty damn funny.
 
2014-04-17 05:02:59 PM
The acronym for the bill should have given away that it was satire
 
2014-04-17 05:18:59 PM

GameSprocket: NkThrasher: IvanTheSilent: Nobody who reads Duffel Blog is worth a damn.  The veterans who do tend to be on the derp side, and the civilians who do tend to be more derped than the vets.  The worst are the idiots who herpaderp their way onto it and then don't get that it's a steaming pile of shiat.

/Veteran
//Doesn't do "veteran" things because of how stupid most vets look
///Seriously, fark those guys

Come now, you didn't find this at least chuckle worthy?

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/female-army-ranger/

I did. Once you understand that it is lampooning the uber-macho culture of the special forces, it is pretty damn funny.


I know, right?

Sure a fair amount of their stuff is crap, but they periodically hit things perfectly, like this pair:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/04/sergeant-major-academy/ 
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/09/national-association-of-second-lie ut enants-responds-to-criticism/ 

Maybe IvanTheSilent is just one of those grumpy vets who burned his DD214 and never wants to think about anything military related ever again.
 
2014-04-17 05:54:51 PM
I'm a vet who used to have profound PTSD until I was treated with MDMA (I got better).  I thought the article was funny and I immediately could tell that it was satire.  I mean, the acronym for the bill was a dead giveaway and is hilarious.

The congressman needs to adjust his sarcasm detector.
 
2014-04-17 06:02:23 PM
Since this is an Australian publication, is he referring to conservatives when he says "the left"?
 
2014-04-17 06:03:01 PM

Apatheist: Since this is an Australian publication, is he referring to conservatives when he says "the left"?


Whoops, wrong hole.
 
2014-04-17 06:44:59 PM

Apatheist: Apatheist: Since this is an Australian publication, is he referring to conservatives when he says "the left"?

Whoops, wrong hole.


careful when pulling out then
 
2014-04-17 06:59:54 PM
Duffel Blog is pretty much the biggest troll ever. They posted a great article about Army units doing joint training with UN troops in anticipation of firearm seizures and it was farking gold how many idiots bought into it.
 
2014-04-17 09:14:14 PM

trotsky: Duffel Blog is pretty much the biggest troll ever. They posted a great article about Army units doing joint training with UN troops in anticipation of firearm seizures and it was farking gold how many idiots bought into it.


GOP cries over cut up Onions
 
2014-04-17 09:24:11 PM
So...Veterans are sophisticated enough to appreciate and understand satire, but congressmen are not?This is my shocked face.:-|
 
2014-04-17 10:08:48 PM
Moran knew it was satire, he just didn't like the joke and he really didn't like the words they put in his mouth.  Big difference from thinking the onion reports real news.
 
2014-04-17 11:01:14 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure vets have the worst of the worst in terms of gallows humor.  But it probably beats going insane.
 
2014-04-18 12:28:49 AM

Lionel Mandrake: What a Moran


Tell me about it.  This stuff writes itself.
 
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