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2014-04-17 11:39:16 AM  
11 votes:
How the Left, here and abroad, is trying to shut down debate

i340.photobucket.com

/more like Spec-tater.
2014-04-17 11:51:53 AM  
9 votes:
The Spectator: The Anal Beads of Britain's Asshole.
2014-04-17 11:42:28 AM  
8 votes:
WAHHHHHHHHH MY BAD IDEAS ARE BEING DRIVEN OUT OF THE MARKET PLACE OF IDEAS WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
2014-04-17 03:46:31 PM  
7 votes:

Bloody William: lantawa: HeartBurnKid: Of course Baathism is a real thing.  So are socialism and Marxism, as well as fascism.  The problem is, to many people, the meaning of the latter three (as well as the former, if your post is any indication) is simply "disagreeing with me".

That would be, and is, an incorrect statement. Radical liberal political strategists have stooped to incredibly unethical methodology in their political tactics by coalescing their messages under Baathist-type suppression of opposing views. Quality political dialogue is now much more difficult to find in the West, precisely because of Middle Eastern political influence. We are through more than one looking glass in the political arenas of the West. "Disagreeing with me," yah, my sweet tookus that's what it means..

What the fark are you talking about?


img.fark.net
2014-04-17 01:43:01 PM  
5 votes:
The diversity of opinion in the 1950s was truly aspirational.
2014-04-17 12:23:23 PM  
5 votes:

Mentat: Once you cut through the levels of derp, there is a valid debate topic here.  Take the Mozilla CEO for instance.  Does his personal views, no matter how reprehensible, disqualify him from a job that has nothing to do with those views?  If so, do his views disqualify him from every job?  Does the right of customers to boycott a product extend to denying someone their livelihood because we disagree with them?  These aren't easy questions to answer which is why we've been dealing with them for 240 years.  Moreover, we on the left sometimes fall into the trap of thinking of bigotry as a zero sum game, that because there's so much bigotry on the right that there's a corresponding lack of bigotry on the left, and that's not necessarily true.  One of the struggles I face as a liberal is distinguishing between the views which I find odious and the people who hold those views whom I call friends and family(red state Oklahoma y'all).


That's very reasonable and even-tempered.

I'm going to have to ask you to leave this thread.
2014-04-17 11:47:46 AM  
5 votes:
More conservative whining...must be a day ending in -y
2014-04-17 11:39:24 AM  
5 votes:
In California, Mozilla's chief executive is forced to resign because he once made a political donation in support of the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.

This country has come to a sad state of affairs when homosexualist advocates are allowed to freely advocate a boycott of a private company.
2014-04-17 03:36:31 PM  
4 votes:
cdn.niketalk.com

The edification of this emancipation reaps destruction of the paradigm that shifted into the systemization of coalescing facts discussed in bath houses. To disagree is to disregard the amalgamation of gentrification of liberalism and the vociferation of mesmerizing dedication.
2014-04-17 01:43:45 PM  
4 votes:

Diogenes: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x243]

He's like the anti-Seth Rogen.


You mean he's funny?
2014-04-17 01:27:08 PM  
4 votes:
Libertarians: "The free market will prevent people from discriminating! People just won't shop at places whose proprietors discriminate!"

*PREMISE ACTUALLY WORKS FOR ONCE*

"ZOMG HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH TERRIBLE FORCE THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER."


 

Mentat: Once you cut through the levels of derp, there is a valid debate topic here. Take the Mozilla CEO for instance. Does his personal views, no matter how reprehensible, disqualify him from a job that has nothing to do with those views? If so, do his views disqualify him from every job? Does the right of customers to boycott a product extend to denying someone their livelihood because we disagree with them?


When you donate to a campaign, it is no longer a personal or private view, is it? You are *actively spending money* to try and convince others to see things 'your way'. THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT ADVERTISING ON THESE ISSUES IS.
2014-04-17 11:53:11 AM  
4 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com

He's like the anti-Seth Rogen.
2014-04-17 10:02:49 PM  
3 votes:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

LOOK EVERYONE MY UTTER TOSH IS SO VERY SUPERLATIVE

I MADE EVERYONE HERE THINK ABOUT KITTENS TAKING BATHS!!

SWEET GLORIOUS VICTORY IS MINE FOREVER!!


pppfffttthhththtbbbbt

2014-04-17 05:12:45 PM  
3 votes:
guys i don't care about what you think of me

guys

listen this is important

guys

i don't care what you think of me

really guys

i don't

i have to let you know

that i don't care

it is very important
2014-04-17 02:07:15 PM  
3 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Diogenes: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x243]

He's like the anti-Seth Rogen.

It's like Seth Rogen and Ron Perlman had a really ugly baby.


I'm going to ask this, because I feel this is a really important discussion, but do you think Seth Rogen and Ron Pearlman could produce a not ugly baby?
2014-04-17 01:38:29 PM  
3 votes:

sigdiamond2000: I disagree with Pizza Hut's definition of "pizza" so I don't eat there and dissuade others from eating there as well.


Pizza Hut was founded in Kansas and was originally called Hawaiian Pizza Hut. You know who else has ties to Kansas and Hawaii?

/I studied it out
2014-04-18 12:07:39 AM  
2 votes:
www.ovenbakedtradition.com
2014-04-17 09:30:08 PM  
2 votes:
I don't think anybody should be allowed to say free speech is being shut down.
2014-04-17 07:37:55 PM  
2 votes:

lantawa: Regarding the "link" between Middle East and West, I told you and everyone else here that I would work on it.  To be honest, the ganglike suppressive efforts regarding my viewpoint, by many of you here, is very much like the Baathist method of shouting down a dissident and then setting upon him.

news.psu.edu

You walked right into that one chief.....
2014-04-17 05:32:43 PM  
2 votes:

lantawa: UncomfortableSilence: After attempting to google Baathist and various combinations of words that would tie it to leftist or democratic politics, I found nothing.  Not even the infowars article that this must have spawned from.

Is your google-fu really that weak?  Are you guys really that clueless?

this link is the FIRST result from the googled term "baathism":   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'athism

These paragraphs, below, are from that article.  How hard is it to put two and two together.  Seriously guys.  C'mon!

Aflaq deeply supported some Marxist   tenets, and he considered the Marxist concept of the to be one of modern humanity's greatest discoveries. However, he disagreed with the Marxist view that dialectical materialism was the  only truth. Aflaq believed that Marxism had forgotten human's spirituality. While believing that the concept would work for small and weak societies, the concept of dialectical materialism as the  only truth in Arab development was wrong.

For a people as spiritual as the Arabs, the working class was just a group, albeit the most important group, in a much larger movement to free the Arab nation. Aflaq agreed to Karl Marx's view that the working class was a central force, but not which role it played in history. In contrast to Marx, Aflaq believed in, and believed that in the Arab world all classes, and not just the working class, were working against. What in the west was a struggle between various classes was in the Arab world a fight for political and economic independence.

For Aflaq, socialism was a necessary means to accomplishing the goal of initiating an Arabic  renaissance period, in other words,  . While unity brought the Arab world together and liberty provided the Arab people with freedom, socialism was the cornerstone which made unity and liberty successful. No socialism meant no revolution. In Aflaq's view, a system would not succeed in a country such as that was dominated by a "pseudo-feudalist" economic system in ...

We have a Major Problem,

Creation is Cubic Opposites,
2 Major Corners & 2 Minor.

Mom/Dad & Son/Daughter,
NOT
taught Evil ONEism,
which  VOIDS Families.
********************************************************************* * ********************

Seek Wisdom of Cubic Life
Intelligence - or you die evil.
********************************************************************* * ******************
 Evil God Believers refuse to
acknowledge  4 corner Days
rotating simultaneously around
4 quadrant created Earth -
in only 1 rotation, voiding the
Oneism Evil  1 Day 1 God.
You worship Satanic impostor
guised by educators as 1 god.

No 1 God equals 4 - 24 hour

Days Rotating Simultaneously
within 1- 24 hour Rotation of
 4 quadrant created Earth.
Ignoring 4 Corner Earth Days
will Destroy Evil Humanity.
I am organizing Children to
join "Cubic Army of 4 Days"
to convert Evil 1 Day Adults
to 4 Day mentality existence,
to serve perpetual humanity.

"Nothing on Earth more Evil

than a human educated as 1,
when composed of opposites
that cancel out as an entity."
In fact, man is the only 1 Evil,
and will soon erase himself by
ignoring Cubic 4 Day Creation.
If a Man cannot tear a page
from the bible and burn it -
then he cannot be a scientist
,
or participate in Symposium -
to measure Cubing of Earth
with Cubic intelligence wiser
than any man or god known.
Educators have destroyed the
human analytical brain to a
single perspective, in spite of
all creation within  Universe
being based upon opposites,
binaries & antipodes, including
Sun/Earth binary relative to the

 human male/female binary. No

 ancient insignificant dead 1 Jew
 godism can match or exceed the
enormity of the Sun/Earth
Binary. His heart is not big
enough for sharing with the
vastness of created opposites.
1 has no heart beat or breath,
constituting death of opposites.
God in Human form has human

 limits as body controls activity.

You are taught Evil, You act
Evil, You are the Evil on Earth.
Only your comprehending the
Divinity of Cubic Creation will
your soul be saved from your
created hell on Earth
- induced
by your ignoring the existing
4 corner
harmonic simultaneous
 4 Days rotating in a single cycle
of the Earth sphere. Religious/
Academic Pedants cannot allow
4 Days that contradict 1Day 1God.
Educators destroy your brain,
but you don't know, so why care?

Creation ocurrs via opposites,

but Religious/Academia pedants
suppress it teaching Satanic One.

After 30 years of research, I now

possess the Order of Harmonic
Antipodal Cubic Divinity Life -
too large for physical form, but
Binary Spirit of the masculinity
Sun & feminity Earth Antipodes.
ONEism is demonic Death Math.
I have so much to teach you, but
you ignore me you evil asses.
You will recognize 4 corner Days
or incur
Easter Island Ending.

Never a Genius knew Math

to achieve my Cubic Wisdom.
Cubic thought Reigns as the
Highest Intelligence possible
on the planet Earth. One 96
hour rotating Cube within a
single rotation of Earth -- is
an Ineffable Transcendence.
Bible and Science falsify 1
corner day for the Cubic 4
corner Days rotating daily.
A single god is not possible
in our 4 Day Cubic Science,
that equates Cubic Divinity.
Everybody is both stupid and
evil for ignoring the 4 days.
Cube Divinity transcends all
knowledge, Humans can't
escape 4 corner Cubic Life.
Fools worship mechanics of
language - while they wallow
in fictitious & deceitful word
.
Exact science based on Cubics,
not on theories. Wisdom is
Cubic testing of knowledge.
Academia is progression of
Ignorance.   No god equals
Simultaneous 4 Day Creation.
Humans ignore their 4 corner
stages of life metamorphosis.
This site is a collection of data
for a coming book - peruse it.
No human has 2 hands as they
are opposites, like plus and
minus, that cancel as entity.
Academia destroys your brain,
your ability to think opposite.
The eyes of the flounder fish
were relocated, why were yours

 relocated? Your opposite eyes

were moved to 1 corner to overlay
for single perspective, but that
corrupts your Opposite Brain.
*****************************

KNOW CUBE, OR HELL.

Education and Religion
severely diminishes
your
intelligence and mentality,
instituting ONEness Evil
,
You are educated stupid -
and you have no inkling to
just how EVIL you think.

Seek in haste to attend a

lecture by Dr. Gene Ray,
Cubic and Wisest Human -

His Wisdom is Awesome.
*************************************
For Cumming, GA 30041 Lecture,
email: o­r­ay61­2959[nospam-﹫-backwards]kn­il­h­t­rae*ne­t
*******************************************
Both Cubic Thinkers and SnotBrains were
born with opposite brains, capable of math
analysis to know most everything.    The
Religious/Academic Oneness Brotherhood
destroys the Brain's ability to think opposite
of singularity trash taught.
Such reduced
Brain intelligence
begets the student a
tag of SnotBrain android - encapable of
comprehending absolute proof of 4 Days
rotating simultaneously within a single
rotation of Earth. Cubics comprehend it.
You are a Cubic Thinker, or SnotBrain.

You SnotBrains will know
hell for ignoring TimeCube.
I do not promote or suggest
anyone killing you, but you
are unfit to live on Earth.
Binary Life Force
is more
Powerful than ONE God -
especially the ole dead Jew,
for which you've denounced
your own mother and father.
1 side brain can't reason
without the opposite side.
Americans are so dumb,
educated stupid and evil,
they have snot for brain.
Believers have snot brain.
Educated have snot brain.
God worship only needs
a snot brain, but it takes
Opposite Brain Analysis
to know Harmonic Life.

The masculinity Sun and
femininity Earth - form
a Binary of Harmonic
Opposites
  at Center of
Universe - Greater than
either Sun or the Earth,
debunking all fictitious
Oneism Gods taught by
religious/academic Word
Animals. The invention of
fictitious WORD inflicts
humans as Word Animals
- the dumbest and most
Educated stupid and Evil
animal to inhabit Earth
and the Universe. Watch
for Giant Erasor as there
is a great danger of the
human Word Animal being
self-erased.   You cannot
comprehend the actual 4

 simultaneous days in single

rotation of Earth, as 1 day
1 God ONEism blocks the
ability to think opposite of
the ONEism crap taught.
Education destroys brain.

Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human

**********************************

Gene Ray interview by Lionel on Air America Radio,

The Lionel Show - 10am, Friday, August 3, 2007

Creation is the Harmonics of Opposites -

Opposites are the Harmonics of Creation.
God entity is queer sex, or no opposite sex.
God Oners must ban all sex with Opposites.
Trinity of males degrade female opposites.
Sex okay for atheist, but not God Oneists.
Opposite hemispheres equate planets to a
Giant Brain, that has 4 faces, but no limbs.
Adults create baby, baby evolves to adult.
No 1 God can create a planet of opposites,
which equate to a zero value existence, and
cancels to nothing as an entity in death.

**********************************
"Cubic Time" - Cubes
Earth, Life and Truth

Word God is Bad Math
MATH SHOWN HERE IS
FAR SUPERIOR TO GOD
AND CHRISTIANITY. USE
IT TO SAVE HUMANITY.

HONOR THE 4 DAYS



OR YOU SHOULD DIE.


Dr Gene Ray is the
Greatest Philosopher,
and is the Greatest
Mathematician.
www.TheWisestHuman.com
********************************************


Cubic Harmonics
Only Cubic Harmonics can save
humanity. Cubic Harmonics
will pacify all religions.

96-hour Cubic Day

debunks 1-day unnatural god.
96-hour Cubic Day
debunks 1-day as witchcraft.

96-hour day willdisprove disunity

god. Academians are teaching -
pseudoscience.

Worshipping a Word God

will destroy the USA.
********************************************************
2014-04-17 04:38:19 PM  
2 votes:

s2s2s2: UrukHaiGuyz: colon_pow: Why bother winning the debate when it's easier to close it down?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x377]

But who photoshopped it?


Ba'athists. Are you even paying attention?
2014-04-17 03:52:53 PM  
2 votes:

lantawa: . Quality political dialogue is now much more difficult to find in the West, precisely because of Middle Eastern political influence.


img.fark.net
2014-04-17 03:36:41 PM  
2 votes:

sprawl15: Bloody William: What the fark are you talking about?

[i.imgur.com image 437x394]


i.imgur.com
2014-04-17 03:32:08 PM  
2 votes:

Bloody William: What the fark are you talking about?


i.imgur.com
2014-04-17 12:33:18 PM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x243]

He's like the anti-Seth Rogen.


It's like Seth Rogen and Ron Perlman had a really ugly baby.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-17 11:54:03 AM  
2 votes:
the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.

Right.  It's sad to see chicken farking spread to Europe.
2014-04-18 04:02:11 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: This makes about 8 or 9 cites that I've given (a few of them suspect, I'll admit).  But wait, what have any of you who oppose me done but sit there like little chickadees in a nest with your mouths wide open, going, FEEEEEEED ME.  FEEEEEEEEED ME!  Yeah, you guys are real fine intellects, and obviously Masters of the Political Universe.


Ok, I was wrong - calling you a Glen Beck chalkboarder is an insult to Glen Beck chalkboarders.  But please, respond by calling names and claiming intellectual superiority because they are lacking "imagination" to create the connections you invented in your mind.

We need to be warned about the lizard people.  And the reverse vampires.  Did you find the moon landing sound stage?  Do you have any new 9/11 Truther links for us?  Maybe a few new pictures of chicken wire and cinder blocks?  I mean, that's clearly evidence.

Please.  Show me where the brown man touched you.
2014-04-18 02:53:52 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: My opinions are open on President Obama himself, but this link is full of links that can be perused if the spirit so moves you fine, cynical folk.

http://www.infiltratednation.com/2012/10/obamas-love-of-islam-social is m-with.html


24.media.tumblr.com
2014-04-18 02:01:25 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Muslim customs and practices, by actual observant Muslims, are incredibly third world and backwards.


My Muslim neighbors(well, three houses down) have such incredibly backwards customs such as going to the mosque, reading the Koran, being kind to their neighbors, and inviting us over every few weeks for some tasty, tasty food.

How horrifying.
2014-04-18 01:56:03 PM  
1 votes:

soporific: But if you can't find the actual evidence, I'll settle for knowing how you came across this notion in the first place. Who first told you about the Baathist influence? Where did you read about it? Where did you hear about it? Who put two and two together for you?


It's just another word that ends with "ist" that he can hurl at 'the left' in a weak attempt to portray them as something scary and evil. I guess 'socialist' and 'marxist' and all the others have lost that new car smell, so to speak, so he had to find a new one that he can drive around and feel special about since he's got the ability to spot the nefarious plot that doesn't exist.
2014-04-18 01:30:42 PM  
1 votes:
I'm somewhat proud of myself I helped inspire  lantwwwwaaaaah I want my mommy to go full retard.
2014-04-18 10:02:29 AM  
1 votes:
My unprofessional, completely unscientific analysis of this thread leads to three equally-possible conclusions. Either:

1) Certain posters on here are unbelievably masterful trolls and are full of troll win, or

2) Some of us in here are in dire need of serious psychological care, or

3) Why not both?

Seriously, there's some very bizarre stuff being tossed about that makes it seem like there are some very unbalanced and paranoid individuals expressing their delusions. We shouldn't mock them (unless they're trolling) because they clearly need support and care. I can only speak for myself here, but to me it's not fun attacking people who have actual mental issues and aren't just being toolboxes.  We should be supportive of people regardless of their political leanings or mental states because we're all part of the human community. We have to look after one another and this includes people who have ideas opposite to our own. Why yes, I'm a libby lib liberal but I'm still here for anyone I can help if that's possible. This thread makes me feel... concerned!
2014-04-18 08:26:20 AM  
1 votes:
So let me get this correct:

1. A same sex couple brings a complaint against a business for discrimination: they should have just taken their business somewhere else and let the free market decide.
2. A private dating site shows it's displeasure of the views of the CEO by staging a one day "boycott" (defined as redirecting users to a protest page but letting them continue since we know basement dwellers whacking off can't summon the energy to click a link) and the CEO steps down: OHNOES GUBMNT OPPRESSION.

Makes sense to me.
2014-04-18 01:19:35 AM  
1 votes:

The_Forensicator: Bucky Katt: All the rightwing apologists came out for this one.  I haven't seen some these alts since 0bama got reelected.

You are the perfect spokesperson for the Fark Dependents

media0.giphy.com
2014-04-18 12:22:53 AM  
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: Bloody William: lantawa: Bloody William: Lionel Mandrake: I was more curious as to why you were fearing the hammer.

[37.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

/Has no farking clue what "the Hammer" is. Tom Delay's nickname?

This is the hammer.  Damn, you guys are denser than a briar patch.[i466.photobucket.com image 448x254]

Oh, the... ban hammer that's almost never used on Fark except when users report instances of explicit content or personal attacks? This isn't Reddit, dude.

Does the troll think tattling to the Mods for the sort of flame wars that serve as Fark's bread and butter is a scary thing to anyone? Don't post porn, don't mouth off to the mods and you're generally fine.


Also, don't call the mod's troll alts, trolls.
2014-04-18 12:16:08 AM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Otherwise, I'll just monitor you. I can do that for weeks on end if I feel like it. Adjust your "farkie" notes accordingly.


Watch out guys. He's monitoring you. Srs bsns.
2014-04-17 11:42:25 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: This article isn't sufficinet, but it's a beginning, thankyaverimuch:   http://billwarnermyblog.wordpress.com/2013/11/25/terrorists-iraqi-baa t h-party-members-escaped-to-usa-and-become-used-car-dealers-in-bowling- green-ky-and-tampa-supplying-terrorists-in-iraq/

www.webtrafficroi.com
2014-04-17 11:41:51 PM  
1 votes:

Summercat: Kittypie070: What is lantawawaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhohgodthebaaaathistsare coming SMOKING!!??

certainly it isn't this delishus chillout mellow leafy freak chow that I'm sharing with my crazy smokin buddy Canis.

I can has some?


Yes we can has some.

www.freakingnews.com
2014-04-17 11:19:48 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: I understand, perfectly, the viciousness of the far Left.

And you have taught me of the thin-skinned, paranoid stupidity of the right.

Fight on li'l freedomsoldier!

Check my profile.  You see that political grid.  I am center-left.  Imagine that.  and I AM center-left, currently unaffiliated with any party, and free-thinking as a gotdamn bird, you little snarker, you.....*pinches and shakes your little virtual jowl*


Whatever...left/right, up/down, north/south...you will be forever known as the guy who makes wild claims then gets his feelings hurt when people ask you to back up your shiat.

A wee little man, delicate like a pretty little flower,,,

....THAT'S BEING SPPRESSED!!!!!
2014-04-17 11:17:26 PM  
1 votes:
And I wonder what birdy chunder thinks the President is.

Come on, enlighten us "hysterics" with your "superlative" reasoning, you little snarker, you.
2014-04-17 11:14:26 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: lantawa:

Check my profile.  You see that political grid.  I am center-left.  Imagine that.  and I AM center-left, currently unaffiliated with any party, and free-thinking as a gotdamn bird, you little snarker, you.....

The Baathists/Communists/ZOG, etc, ad infinitum have infiltrated the government!

Yeah. Reeeeeaaaaaalllll free thinking as a bird right there.

Free to think what Alex Jones or better yet what the voices in your head has told you to think.

Same difference really, because NO DAMN PROOF.

Meanwhile I have to scrape your birdy ass chunder off my window.


Lizard People and Illuminati and Bilderbergs Oh My!
2014-04-17 11:12:37 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa:

Check my profile.  You see that political grid.  I am center-left.  Imagine that.  and I AM center-left, currently unaffiliated with any party, and free-thinking as a gotdamn bird, you little snarker, you.....


The Baathists/Communists/ZOG, etc, ad infinitum have infiltrated the government!

Yeah. Reeeeeaaaaaalllll free thinking as a bird right there.

Free to think what Alex Jones or better yet what the voices in your head has told you to think.

Same difference really, because NO DAMN PROOF.

Meanwhile I have to scrape your birdy ass chunder off my window.
2014-04-17 11:10:16 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: And he sits there claiming his audience is hysterical.

Oh look, I infromed you with my superlative method of pulling the deliberate lunacy of THE BAATHISTS ARE INFILTRATING out of my ass ha ha ha, to resist my holy sacred wisdom is to gang troll me.


All you have to do is imagine fascists with towels on their heads.  that's pretty much what Baathists are.  Now imagine all the nice madrassas and mosques that harbor a small number of eager-beaver Islamic zealots who are practicing their idiot third-world religion in opposition to the dominant American culture, while maintaining Arab-nationalist views.  Viola:  Baathism in the U.S. Now imagine a lot of this taking place in Chicago.  It's there.  Imagine it.  Baathists are NOT going to let Westerners know that they are practicing Baathist ideology and methodology in the U.S.  they are going to do this surreptitiously, as in "secret." and they will not and are not being kind as they employ the methods of this movement.
2014-04-17 11:05:36 PM  
1 votes:
This thread is still going?

wow.

You guys deserve a little something special I think.

Here, have some random fark.com GIS:
(I spared no expense)

img.fark.net
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i471.photobucket.com
img.fark.net

img.fark.net
2014-04-17 10:49:58 PM  
1 votes:
And he sits there claiming his audience is hysterical.

Oh look, I infromed you with my superlative method of pulling the deliberate lunacy of THE BAATHISTS ARE INFILTRATING out of my ass ha ha ha, to resist my holy sacred wisdom is to gang troll me.
2014-04-17 10:49:57 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Bloody William: Lionel Mandrake: I was more curious as to why you were fearing the hammer.

[37.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

/Has no farking clue what "the Hammer" is. Tom Delay's nickname?

This is the hammer.  Damn, you guys are denser than a briar patch.[i466.photobucket.com image 448x254]


We're dense?  We were joking, dude.

Let's see...I'm dense, vicious, weasily,,,but it's the left wing that's mean.  Gotcha

Apparently, asking someone to back up their claims is the acme of incivility
2014-04-17 10:39:48 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: I understand, perfectly, the viciousness of the far Left.


And you have taught me of the thin-skinned, paranoid stupidity of the right.

Fight on li'l freedomsoldier!
2014-04-17 10:29:44 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: lantawa: Wut?  A halfway friendly post? What powerful magic is this?  I like the bad "habbits" mispelling, BTW.  Little hobbits with bad habbits. Lots of that in Lower Farkistan.

Seriously dude, you need to step back and take a breath. You are being genuinely paranoid and not entirely coherent.


Actually, I'm sensing a sort of hysteria being generated from a number of you guys who've chosen to gang-troll me.  There're medications that you can take for hysterical conversion reactions.  You might want to look into that.

This last post that you just quoted, well, that's a take on Johnny Depp's Barnabas Collins in the movie Dark Shadows, combined with amusement at the habbits word.  Obviously a sign of deep paranoia and incoherence.  Try to keep up.  You idiots asked for this.

Again, the title of this thread is RIP, diversity of opinion.(1770-2014).

This thing, suppression of diverse opinions, exists.  I am displaying to a small group of weaselly misfits that vicious snark will not suppress diverse opinions.  Learn from it, each and every one of you who has taken dirty, cheap shots; cheap shots that you completely expected would silence me.  Now who is paranoid?  It's certainly not me. I still think that Baathist tactics are being used in the United States under a different name. I understand, perfectly, the viciousness of the far Left.  It is reaI, and it is hateful. I truly do not care if you disapprove of my stance or not.  I am sharing it with you, period.  Free speech, yaknow.......
2014-04-17 10:24:00 PM  
1 votes:

johnnyrocket: These conservative retards want to debate established science and hard facts? What morons and fools.


Mwelp it looks to me like lantanawowie is attempting to deny the very existence of right wing media, for one thing.

Maybe Oral Roberts College also doesn't exist and there are no evangelical organizations operating in the Air Force Academy either.
2014-04-17 10:13:25 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: Crotchrocket Slim: Plus dk'tangs are sweet daggers.

That's the most honorable way to spend a Friday night, man. Cruisin' around tryin' to pull down some sweet dk'tang.


i.imgur.com
2014-04-17 10:09:22 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: I was more curious as to why you were fearing the hammer.


37.media.tumblr.com

/Has no farking clue what "the Hammer" is. Tom Delay's nickname?
2014-04-17 09:46:04 PM  
1 votes:
I'm trying again to read the article and it just sounds like a lot of blubbering and whining.

The poor oppressed right, who has absolutely no media platform and no voice whatsoever anywhere on the planet, my gosh.

I mean, they're just getting shot and jailed just everywhere, and the Fox News building is now a smoking crater filled with iridescent pink unicorn sparkles and fluffy organic granola bunnies wearing pretty satin ribbon bows woven from carbon-neutrally-recycled Armani suits. Oh the oppression.
2014-04-17 09:40:23 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: What is lantawawaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhohgodthebaaaathistsare coming SMOKING!!??

certainly it isn't this delishus chillout mellow leafy freak chow that I'm sharing with my crazy smokin buddy Canis.


Made you, and anyone else in this thread, think about Baathists, didn't I?  That was my primary goal, and I achieved it in a superlative manner.  Now, a lot more very thoughtful people are aware of a type of political activism that I wanted them to be aware of.  My work here is done.  Well, don't you have a date with a red dot somewhere?
2014-04-17 09:33:49 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: We'll be talking again in other threads, and that right soon.


Will you be bringing facts to that thread, or more unwarranted paranoid teabagger bullshiat?  Either way, I look forward to ii

lantawa: The suppression of diversity of opinion is a real thing. You gang-troll folk have taken a stance that opposes this truth. Middle Eastern political influence is, indeed, a part of this phenomenon. You are truly, and I say this unequivocally, stupid or actively encouraging this suppression if you are not recognizing this fact.


So, asking you to back up your claims is "suppression?"

lantawa: And I do not like "the hammer." So, in order to keep privileges, disengagement has to occur, because otherwise the escalation just continues until total overload.


I have no idea what you're talking about, but it seems to be some form of "WAAAAH!!  I'M A VICTIM!!1!"  Man up. dude.

lantawa: You've perfected the gang troll.


Gang troll = "these meanies won't stop asking me to back up my claims!  Why won't they just accept my outrageous claims?  Oh yeah, because they are SUPPRESSING me!!"
2014-04-17 09:26:05 PM  
1 votes:
I left after work, ignored the thread, watched some JoJo, had pizza, played Mercenary Kings... did I miss anything not buttfark crazy stupid? No? Sweet.
2014-04-17 09:26:03 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: So, still nothing...I'm shocked


More than what you've generated, so there's that. If you'd kept your discussion with me between us, then we could have a meaningful interaction. but you cant. As usual, you want to posture and huzzah and yip about your wonderful performance in this thread and other threads, along with your little weird weaselly buddies. So,as Borat would say, high five! Go find out about Middle Eastern politics yourself. If I feel generous, then I'll share what I find when I find more. Otherwise, I'll just monitor you. I can do that for weeks on end if I feel like it. Adjust your "farkie" notes accordingly.
2014-04-17 09:02:45 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Crotchrocket Slim: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Okay sport. Here ya go. You've worked hard for it, and I just want you to once again see the horrible horrible picture of your Illustrious Leader; you know, the one that outraged you and sent you spiralling into a black hole of "farkying" that bad ol' man who dared to insult your idol. If this were the Middle East, and this guy in the pic was the leader of the Middle Eastern country, then I'd be ended, disappeared, taken out to the desert, and buried. Too bad that you can't do that, isn't it. Schadenfraude indeed: Maybe He can make a vagina out of YOUR anus. You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Shouldn't you be providing evidence to back up your claims?

Get to work, slacker!

Well, okay.  I will.  To be honest, I'm amazed that I'm still here and that the hammer has not yet descended.  It would be best if I now went to contemplate the Baathist issues in solitude, so, I say, arrivederci......

Running away again...hardly a surprise

Welcome to Fark!

Oh yeah, I'm well aware of the type:  1) An outrageous claim is made, 2) a request for evidence is made, 3) Ignore requests and/or express feelings or persecution and/or leave the thread.

Oh, then eventually return to FARK and act surprised that everyone laughs at you, then more persecution complex/tail between legs whining and fleeing.

Usually it's boring, but sometimes I find it entertaining.


Jesus Christ.  You guys are like a pack of weasels, Little imp-weasels, feeding on the imaginary carcasses of your opponents who you've vanquished only in your imaginations. We'll be talking again in other threads, and that right soon.  You folk who have gang-trolled me are a lot duller and unimaginative than you'd otherwise believe.  The suppression of diversity of opinion is a real thing.  You gang-troll folk have taken a stance that opposes this truth.  Middle Eastern political influence is, indeed, a part of this phenomenon.  You are truly, and I say this unequivocally, stupid or actively encouraging this suppression if you are not recognizing this fact.  Do I have a persecution complex?  Not at all.  Am I fleeing?  Not at all. Just frustrated with childlike trolling and hyena-like caw-cawing in print from you jackwads.  And I do not like "the hammer."  So, in order to keep privileges, disengagement has to occur, because otherwise the escalation just continues until total overload.

And, of course, in the time it has taken me to write this, three more jackwad messages are in my inbox. Too farkin' cute, weasels.  You've perfected the gang troll.  Good jerb.
2014-04-17 08:24:18 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Okay sport. Here ya go. You've worked hard for it, and I just want you to once again see the horrible horrible picture of your Illustrious Leader; you know, the one that outraged you and sent you spiralling into a black hole of "farkying" that bad ol' man who dared to insult your idol. If this were the Middle East, and this guy in the pic was the leader of the Middle Eastern country, then I'd be ended, disappeared, taken out to the desert, and buried. Too bad that you can't do that, isn't it. Schadenfraude indeed: Maybe He can make a vagina out of YOUR anus. You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Shouldn't you be providing evidence to back up your claims?

Get to work, slacker!

Well, okay.  I will.  To be honest, I'm amazed that I'm still here and that the hammer has not yet descended.  It would be best if I now went to contemplate the Baathist issues in solitude, so, I say, arrivederci......

Running away again...hardly a surprise


Welcome to Fark!
2014-04-17 08:20:41 PM  
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: SeriousGeorge: Right, no reason to be concerned.

That's funny skippy, the DJ has no First Amendment expectation when hired by an entity to play music on their airwaves. The station has its own First Amendment rights. That they grant him latitude to determine his own content is a courtesy, one the station felt he abused.


Wha? This article made no mention of any station and I have made no arguments about constitutional protections or anything of the sort. I'm talking about the propriety of forcing people from their jobs because of a perceived slight to an oppressed group and the desire of some social-justice warriors to insist that all public places become a "safe space" for them.
2014-04-17 08:19:51 PM  
1 votes:

CanisNoir: Since when did supporting gay marriage become bigotry? Oh it doesn't, you just wanted to prove my point by calling me a bigot.

You're a joke.


Sure you support gay marriage, while working against all efforts to actually lift a finger to make gay marriage a legal reality.
2014-04-17 08:18:48 PM  
1 votes:
lantawa: It would be best if I now went to contemplate the Baathist issues in solitude, so, I say, arrivederci......

Don't forget Mr. Bubble for your baath!

(Would link image. Too lazy.)
2014-04-17 08:14:58 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Okay sport. Here ya go. You've worked hard for it, and I just want you to once again see the horrible horrible picture of your Illustrious Leader; you know, the one that outraged you and sent you spiralling into a black hole of "farkying" that bad ol' man who dared to insult your idol. If this were the Middle East, and this guy in the pic was the leader of the Middle Eastern country, then I'd be ended, disappeared, taken out to the desert, and buried. Too bad that you can't do that, isn't it. Schadenfraude indeed: Maybe He can make a vagina out of YOUR anus. You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Shouldn't you be providing evidence to back up your claims?

Get to work, slacker!


Well, okay.  I will.  To be honest, I'm amazed that I'm still here and that the hammer has not yet descended.  It would be best if I now went to contemplate the Baathist issues in solitude, so, I say, arrivederci......
2014-04-17 07:56:42 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: ScaryBottles: lantawa: ScaryBottles: lantawa: Regarding the "link" between Middle East and West, I told you and everyone else here that I would work on it.  To be honest, the ganglike suppressive efforts regarding my viewpoint, by many of you here, is very much like the Baathist method of shouting down a dissident and then setting upon him.
[news.psu.edu image 200x200]

You walked right into that one chief.....

It's true that I did walk right into it, and I even forgot the combination to my locker, heheh.

To be fair, that is what Baathists do, though it's way too much of a stretch to believe that the average ITG Farker is a truly violent Farker[assets.diylol.com image 413x510]

You're making this too easy.

So are you: See?  I can picture too!

[i466.photobucket.com image 200x86]

dev.solita.fi

I can do this all day captain.....
2014-04-17 07:50:22 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: ScaryBottles: lantawa: Regarding the "link" between Middle East and West, I told you and everyone else here that I would work on it.  To be honest, the ganglike suppressive efforts regarding my viewpoint, by many of you here, is very much like the Baathist method of shouting down a dissident and then setting upon him.
[news.psu.edu image 200x200]

You walked right into that one chief.....

It's true that I did walk right into it, and I even forgot the combination to my locker, heheh.

To be fair, that is what Baathists do, though it's way too much of a stretch to believe that the average ITG Farker is a truly violent Farker

assets.diylol.com

You're making this too easy.
2014-04-17 07:46:26 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Crotchrocket Slim: *tap tap tap* anyone who doesn't want a strong black man to make his anus into a vagina that is?

This is what you wrote in the Mother Jones topic thread.  Why?  Why would you write something like this? Who's the closeted homosexual?  Who has a problem with their sexual identity?  Hint:  It's not me, sport.  It's you.  You've been calling me names for some time now, and you have ZERO actual reason or cause to be trolling me like you are trolling me.   Now, shut your pie-hole and grow up. This is the adult world, where many persons like myself and the others in this thread discuss and differ in their opinions relative to social and political topics that are currently in play.  YOU.   Stop the personal attacks.  I'm really tired of it and you're being truly offensive.


I lol'd.
2014-04-17 07:45:00 PM  
1 votes:
i dont know what's sadder, that someone's just spraying a firehose of piss at the thread or that dozens of posters are rushing it, mouths open
2014-04-17 07:43:30 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: To be honest, the ganglike suppressive efforts regarding my viewpoint, by many of you here, is very much like the Baathist method of shouting down a dissident and then setting upon him.


TIL that asking for proof is "ganglike suprressive efforts"

lantawa: Take, for instance, the issue in Nevada regarding the rancher out there. You know all of the calls that there have been to have the Feds go out there and bomb those guys, exterminate those guys, kill those guys?  You've seen those writings, no doubt. Well, that's what Baathists do.  They mercilessly kill and maim their opponents physically, and torture them emotionally and physically.


Calls for death of the other guy have been used by basically every political side ever. Trying to use this to link Baathists and liberals is just sad.
2014-04-17 07:39:19 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Crotchrocket Slim: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: ........... well, bye.

So, proving your inability to back up your claims, you've decided to just leave....typical FARK "conservative"

Excuse me, SIR. I was saying bye to the guy who was saying bye to me.  You know, that guy;  the one who posted the gif of the American Eagle, attached to a man's loins, becoming erect and spewing cum.  I was saying bye to that guy only.  And good riddance....

Oh, you're still here.  Perhaps, SIR, you would be so kind as to provide that evidence of a link between Baathists and American liberals?

Or you could just run away (again)

Hey  Lionel, y'all be debating a hypocritical clownshoes troll who has posted more than enough of his own creepy closeted gay imagery involving Obama.

I'm well-aware of what he is...but I believe in second, third, etc chances.  I keep hoping that one these FARK "conservatives" will actually back up their shiat, and set the table for an actual intelligent discussion.

Sometimes it actually happens!  Or, used to, any way.  I don't expect much from this particular troll/coward, but I am always hopeful that one will actually provide some starting ground for a discussion.  But it's pretty much always: Outrageous statement followed by requests for citations followed by diversion (you're so naïve!!) followed by further requests for evidence, followed by silence)

Some days I'm in the mood to give another opportunity and I don't mind typing a bunch.  These moods are ephemeral and so far have born no fruit...but I will continue to try from time to time.  Maybe...someday...maybe,,,


It's very sad that American conservatism has sold itself out such that it only appeals to miscreants, retards, and generally worthless assholes today :(
2014-04-17 07:30:01 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: ........... well, bye.

So, proving your inability to back up your claims, you've decided to just leave....typical FARK "conservative"

Excuse me, SIR. I was saying bye to the guy who was saying bye to me.  You know, that guy;  the one who posted the gif of the American Eagle, attached to a man's loins, becoming erect and spewing cum.  I was saying bye to that guy only.  And good riddance....

Oh, you're still here.  Perhaps, SIR, you would be so kind as to provide that evidence of a link between Baathists and American liberals?

Or you could just run away (again)


Look.  Don't be moronic about why someone might leave a thread.  Was I on this thread for hours?  Yes.  Did I need to poop, eat, take a walk, spend time with my wife, etc?  Yes.  Yes, I did need to do all of those things.  What is with you?

Regarding the "link" between Middle East and West, I told you and everyone else here that I would work on it.  To be honest, the ganglike suppressive efforts regarding my viewpoint, by many of you here, is very much like the Baathist method of shouting down a dissident and then setting upon him.  Glad I'm not within striking distance of any of you, cause, gathered together, it seems very much like a thug-gang would descend upon me and beat me senseless.  You'd like that, wouldn't you?  And you, ironically, don't even see the problems with that kind of attitude.

Take, for instance, the issue in Nevada regarding the rancher out there. You know all of the calls that there have been to have the Feds go out there and bomb those guys, exterminate those guys, kill those guys?  You've seen those writings, no doubt. Well, that's what Baathists do.  They mercilessly kill and maim their opponents physically, and torture them emotionally and physically.

I thank God for the rule of law, and the fact that I am a law-abiding and intelligent citizen of this country. Yes I do.  Put that in that little hopper you call a brain and think about it. No torture for you.  Not yours......
2014-04-17 07:03:44 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: lantawa: ........... well, bye.

So, proving your inability to back up your claims, you've decided to just leave....typical FARK "conservative"


Excuse me, SIR. I was saying bye to the guy who was saying bye to me.  You know, that guy;  the one who posted the gif of the American Eagle, attached to a man's loins, becoming erect and spewing cum.  I was saying bye to that guy only.  And good riddance....
2014-04-17 05:46:54 PM  
1 votes:
If you don't agree with me I will do my best to change the laws to force you agree with me.

Screw your religion. I want the government to make you buy me stuff and shut you down if you try to resist.

And the things I can never accomplish at the ballot box I will relentlessly pursue through the courts. I have a 14th amendment right to any damned thing I want.
2014-04-17 05:36:47 PM  
1 votes:
Question: Has anyone ever been to a Fark comments thread and had their mind changed on a political subject?
2014-04-17 05:18:09 PM  
1 votes:

UncomfortableSilence: After attempting to google Baathist and various combinations of words that would tie it to leftist or democratic politics, I found nothing.  Not even the infowars article that this must have spawned from.


Is your google-fu really that weak?  Are you guys really that clueless?

this link is the FIRST result from the googled term "baathism":   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'athism

These paragraphs, below, are from that article.  How hard is it to put two and two together.  Seriously guys.  C'mon!

Aflaq deeply supported some Marxist   tenets, and he considered the Marxist concept of the to be one of modern humanity's greatest discoveries. However, he disagreed with the Marxist view that dialectical materialism was the  only truth. Aflaq believed that Marxism had forgotten human's spirituality. While believing that the concept would work for small and weak societies, the concept of dialectical materialism as the  only truth in Arab development was wrong.

For a people as spiritual as the Arabs, the working class was just a group, albeit the most important group, in a much larger movement to free the Arab nation. Aflaq agreed to Karl Marx's view that the working class was a central force, but not which role it played in history. In contrast to Marx, Aflaq believed in, and believed that in the Arab world all classes, and not just the working class, were working against. What in the west was a struggle between various classes was in the Arab world a fight for political and economic independence.

For Aflaq, socialism was a necessary means to accomplishing the goal of initiating an Arabic  renaissance period, in other words,  . While unity brought the Arab world together and liberty provided the Arab people with freedom, socialism was the cornerstone which made unity and liberty successful. No socialism meant no revolution. In Aflaq's view, a system would not succeed in a country such as that was dominated by a "pseudo-feudalist" economic system in which the repression of the peasant nullified the people's political liberty. Liberty meant little to nothing to the general poverty-stricken populace of Syria; Aflaq saw socialism as the solution to their plight.

According to Aflaq, the ultimate goal of socialism's not to answer the question of how much   was necessary or economic equality, but instead socialism was "a means to satisfy the animal needs of man so he can be free to pursue his duties as a human being". In other words, socialism was a system which freed the population from enslavement and created independent individuals. However, economic equality was a major tenet in Ba'athist ideology; the elimination of inequality would "eliminate all privilege, exploitation, and domination by one group over another". In short, if liberty was to succeed, the Arab people needed socialism.

Aflaq labelled this form of socialism  , to signify that it existed in harmony with, and was in some ways subordinate to,. According to Aflaq, who was a Christian, the teaching and reforms of the Prophet had given socialism an authentic Arab expression. Socialism was viewed by Aflaq as, and the reforms of the Prophet Muhammed were both just and wise. The Ba'athist would, in modern times, initiate another way of just and radical forms just as the Prophet had done in the seventh century.


So, don't tell me about how extremely diligent your academic efforts were.  And do you good folk not see how readily these views by a Baathist founder could be Westernized?  Is that REALLY so hard for you?

Some of you had a good time with the snark machine, but the ease with which I just generated both Marxist and socialist underpinnings in the Baathist movement proves, to me, the lazy, dogmatically close-minded approach that many of you are taking in this thread.

So, let's hear your further excuses about how there is just no possible way that there is a credible connection between Eastern Marxism and socialism, and Western Marxism and socialism.  C'mon.  Let's hear it.  Eager minds await your edifying comments.
2014-04-17 05:15:09 PM  
1 votes:

KillaChinchilla: After you read the first line of this article you have made up your mind on whether you agree.

This is a form of manipulation, whether you agree or disagree it is still group-think.

Best to take a step back and observe, take in facts, make your own decisions. However this is terribly boring, therefore you will most likely continue eating the pre-processed news of the major networks.

I don't offer any alternatives, just asking you to be cognizant of your bias, and question why the words are placed in a certain order.


Words the are order placed certain otherwise it because hard very read to.
2014-04-17 05:01:18 PM  
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: Are you guys seriously trying to debate the troll who used to post his politically themed jack off material in Fark threads?


Like what, Reagan/Quayle slashfic?
2014-04-17 04:59:59 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: UrukHaiGuyz: Post the most relevant bit/bits of the text to whatever point you're making.

The discussion of David Irving is a good start.


You know, if you took off your Captain Laconic helmet and offered two or three more sentences to connect the point you're trying to make to the people which whom you're arguing, you'd be a lot more successful in conveying any sort of point. You'd probably come off a lot less like a smarmy git, too.
2014-04-17 04:58:49 PM  
1 votes:

stpauler: It seems the author doesn't understand the often repeated "free speech doesn't mean free from consequences". I wonder if he would like his home address published with a target painted over his face and the words "America's Biggest Pedophile" written under it.  If he's all about free speech, then he should be totes OK with that, right?


That might be slander if the truth wasn't the best defense in court, but airing out someone's personal business like that is dirty pool.
/snerk
2014-04-17 04:57:26 PM  
1 votes:

UncomfortableSilence: After attempting to google Baathist and various combinations of words that would tie it to leftist or democratic politics, I found nothing.  Not even the infowars article that this must have spawned from.


That just proves that Google is in on it.
2014-04-17 04:42:22 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: lantawa: There are some ignorant people who truly do not see the Baathist influence in the United States.

I'm trying to assume you're not a troll, so I'll offer some constructive criticism.

Asserting an outside influence from a specific force without being able to offer evidence of that specific force exerting influence is paranoia. It is a sign of schizophrenia. Without evidence, your claims have no more weight than Lyndon LaRouche supports claiming modern politics is a plot of the British royal family to take over the United States. They're only superior to assertions that political leaders are aliens in the sense that there is evidence the groups involved in your scenario actually exist.


I can see how what you are saying is true. The humorous way to approach that perception would be to say that yes, I'll go study it out and bring back some citations.  More seriously, I guess I have to admit that it is a thesis without background citations.  So, that admission should please the butthurt in this thread.  Okay.  In future days I will try to show examples of how Baathism could be a hybrid Americanized Leftist political methodology.  I admit that just posting a couple of Baathist links by Wiki and a blog are insufficient evidence for the disbelievers.

TellarHK: I think the whole "Baathist" thing is basically just the new way to argue without Godwining a thread. Ignore it, folks. We all know he's full of crap, and so does he. 8/10 though, lots of people dragged into it.


"The new way", as in something that's been around, relative to the U.S., for well over two decades.  You know that you are wrong, and it just kills you to admit it.  I'll wait for your admission.
2014-04-17 04:29:23 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: grumpfuff: It's a common tactic of his. "Watch the video." "I can't, I'm busy." "Well, you're just not interested in honest debate."

Or I could post the text of the speech to which you'd give a tl;dr


Post the most relevant bit/bits of the text to whatever point you're making. Or continue substituting wryness for actual argument. That's cool too, I guess.
2014-04-17 04:24:27 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: You are asking me to take something called liberal baathism seriously.  I have better things to do.  OSomehow, none of them involve rape rooms or one party rule.  Ergo, you're a moron and a crazy person, so shove that condescension straight up your farking ass,  "son".


There *is* something called radical Western politics, and that radical Left will use ANY means, no matter how vile and reprehensible the ethics, and including Baathist methodology, to further its agenda. And the Left would LOVE one party rule, FYI. Ergo, so forth and such as, son.
2014-04-17 04:19:07 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: lantawa: You're really threatened by this, aren't you.  All caps screaming, disregarding that I'm simply responding to someone else's assertion that my thinking is "rubbish."  And I know, exactly, the political persuasions of anyone who "mocks and scorns" me.  Truth be told, it doesn't bother me in the least.  I'm just sad that you've been brainwashed by whatever thinking process it is that makes you think that you have some sort of groupthink truth that gives you great powers.  Anytime I see someone drag out the "royal We", I know that I'm dealing with an immature intellect.

Is it something I said that's making you not want to actually explain your statements or offer any sort of evidence or logic behind them? Because this might surprise you, but your assertions are not self-evident. They seem disconnected, jarring, and paranoid, and if you can't actually back them up they're going to keep seeming disconnected, jarring, and paranoid.


When a political movement seeks to not disclose its techniques for beating its opponents, then it falls to deduction and observation to arrive at conclusions.  I'd like to offer you citations, but the political reality is that political trade secrets exist, just like technical trade secrets exist.  It is a curious phenomenon, and not one that I'm particularly afraid of.  I'll give you jarring and disconnected as a correct view that *you* may have, but it's as clear as day to me when you look at the global political machines that exist throughout the different cultures.

I've explained myself as best I can, and have offered up a few research tools for the uneducated.  There are some ignorant people who truly do not see the Baathist influence in the United States.  Upthread, someone said that it's the literal FIRST time that they've ever heard of Baathism.  Sorry, but that's just indicative of someone who really needs to study up on their politics, if they intend to post in Politics threads.
2014-04-17 04:16:30 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: And using the phrase cum-spewing?  How juvenile, son.  Use the real words, not your vile gutter slang.


'star spangling'
2014-04-17 04:13:23 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: meaningful debate about political methodology.


Meaningful debate like this?

lantawa: Your opinion is rubbish.  The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.  If you can't see the connection between the two things, you're either a low-IQ sycophant for Obama, or an indoctrinated member of your movement who is fearfully denying the truth.

2014-04-17 04:05:13 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Bloody William: lantawa: Your opinion is rubbish.  The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.

lantawa: Your opinion is rubbish.

lantawa: The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.

Two statements. Directly undermining each other. Next to each other.

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE MOCKED AND SCORNED.

You're really threatened by this, aren't you.  All caps screaming, disregarding that I'm simply responding to someone else's assertion that my thinking is "rubbish."  And I know, exactly, the political persuasions of anyone who "mocks and scorns" me.  Truth be told, it doesn't bother me in the least.  I'm just sad that you've been brainwashed by whatever thinking process it is that makes you think that you have some sort of groupthink truth that gives you great powers.  Anytime I see someone drag out the "royal We", I know that I'm dealing with an immature intellect.


For a "mature intellect" you sure as hell have a hard time making an actual direct point. Shine on, though. You're more interesting than the usual claptrap.
2014-04-17 04:03:27 PM  
1 votes:

UrukHaiGuyz: Dancin_In_Anson: UrukHaiGuyz: How is boycotting not exercising free speech, whether by an individual or a company?

It's not. Why not watch the video and get back to me?

Because I have work to do as well. Why not just answer the simple question?


I'll cut to the chase:

The boycott against Mozilla was wrong, because their agenda got an innocent man fired from his job.
2014-04-17 03:58:41 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: American eagle gif spews cum from a man's loins


I'm certain I heard that at the last poetry slam I went to.
2014-04-17 03:51:40 PM  
1 votes:

lantawa: Your opinion is rubbish.  The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.


lantawa: Your opinion is rubbish.


lantawa: The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.


Two statements. Directly undermining each other. Next to each other.

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE MOCKED AND SCORNED.
2014-04-17 03:47:35 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: lantawa: HeartBurnKid: Of course Baathism is a real thing.  So are socialism and Marxism, as well as fascism.  The problem is, to many people, the meaning of the latter three (as well as the former, if your post is any indication) is simply "disagreeing with me".

That would be, and is, an incorrect statement. Radical liberal political strategists have stooped to incredibly unethical methodology in their political tactics by coalescing their messages under Baathist-type suppression of opposing views. Quality political dialogue is now much more difficult to find in the West, precisely because of Middle Eastern political influence. We are through more than one looking glass in the political arenas of the West. "Disagreeing with me," yah, my sweet tookus that's what it means..

Rubbish.  The Baathists used the Iraqi government to shut down dissent through violence and intimidation of violence.

Left leaning people in America simply mock and scorn those on the right.  If you see the two things as even remotely the same thing, you're either insane, retarded or a troll.


Your opinion is rubbish.  The "mocking and scorning" is part of the willful ignorance that comes from methodical, dogmatic dismissal of legitimate opposing views.  If you can't see the connection between the two things, you're either a low-IQ sycophant for Obama, or an indoctrinated member of your movement who is fearfully denying the truth.
2014-04-17 03:45:59 PM  
1 votes:

UrukHaiGuyz: also....canine dish? wat


muslims don't eat dogs

get it
2014-04-17 03:40:34 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Gulper Eel: But having made their bed, they were too chickenshiat to sleep in it.

Well yes, welcome to every PR farkup everywhere.  That still has nothing to do with eliminating diversity of opinion.


Yeah but apparently we're supposed to "respect" bigotry because free speech or something.
2014-04-17 03:28:30 PM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Does this mean that in a few years, we are going to need affirmative action for bigots? If they become a minority class, won't that make them a protected class?


They'll be moved to the front of the line for shiat-shoveling jobs and cleaning bus station bathrooms.
2014-04-17 03:27:47 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: lantawa: HeartBurnKid: Of course Baathism is a real thing.  So are socialism and Marxism, as well as fascism.  The problem is, to many people, the meaning of the latter three (as well as the former, if your post is any indication) is simply "disagreeing with me".

That would be, and is, an incorrect statement. Radical liberal political strategists have stooped to incredibly unethical methodology in their political tactics by coalescing their messages under Baathist-type suppression of opposing views. Quality political dialogue is now much more difficult to find in the West, precisely because of Middle Eastern political influence. We are through more than one looking glass in the political arenas of the West. "Disagreeing with me," yah, my sweet tookus that's what it means..

What the fark are you talking about?


He's really angry at the people that exist in his head.
2014-04-17 03:27:41 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: What the fark are you talking about?


liberals are bad, a bloo blah bloo
2014-04-17 03:26:37 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Nabb1: Infernalist: Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you like with no consequences.  It just means the government can't retaliate against you for speaking your mind in public with a few legal requirements.  No inciting riot or panic or inciting violence against someone.

Other than that, that's all 'free speech' means.

Sure, but as a society, do their have to be "consequences" for merely disagreeing with each other? Is that what we want?

If that mere disagreement is "lalcks/gays/mexicans" ought to be treated like property, yes.


You mean those aren't "mere disagreement?" You mean I'm not just "asking questions?"

I think we need to study it out.
2014-04-17 03:26:12 PM  
1 votes:
Does this mean that in a few years, we are going to need affirmative action for bigots? If they become a minority class, won't that make them a protected class?
2014-04-17 03:24:03 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: As for the other examples in that whinefest? We're not Ireland, England, or Australia, you victimized little shiat.


Uh.... The Spectator isn't a U.S. publication...
2014-04-17 03:21:02 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Of course Baathism is a real thing.  So are socialism and Marxism, as well as fascism.  The problem is, to many people, the meaning of the latter three (as well as the former, if your post is any indication) is simply "disagreeing with me".


That would be, and is, an incorrect statement. Radical liberal political strategists have stooped to incredibly unethical methodology in their political tactics by coalescing their messages under Baathist-type suppression of opposing views. Quality political dialogue is now much more difficult to find in the West, precisely because of Middle Eastern political influence. We are through more than one looking glass in the political arenas of the West. "Disagreeing with me," yah, my sweet tookus that's what it means..
2014-04-17 03:11:52 PM  
1 votes:

grumpfuff: Gulper Eel: When did we collectively decide on that? And let's so some specifics from you on which beliefs are so reprehensible that they need to be shut down.

I was unaware I was still allowed to own slaves.


you just have to call them interns
2014-04-17 03:06:01 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: Infernalist: In short, bigotry is not a valid stance to take in society any longer and those that cling to it openly will suffer for it.

Hence the universal use of that term for any and all objections.

If you want the immigration laws enforced - BIGOT! (xenophobe),
If you oppose anything gay - BIGOT! (homophobe),
If you don't want to buy other people's birth control pills - BIGOT! (war on women),
If you think a viable fetus has the right to be born - BIGOT! (more war on women),
If you bring up black illegitimacy and drop out rates - BIGOT! (racist),
If you think you should have to prove who you are to vote - BIGOT! (more racist),
If you think white western culture has contributed more to humanity than all others combined - BIGOT! (extremely racist).

Pretty much any disagreement with the left will get you the bigot label in one form or another.

Also, if you're religious you can't possibly believe or enjoy science.

And if you think any government program should ever be cut or people should get to keep more of the money they earn, you're an evil straight from Dickens snatching the last morsel from a starving child.

If you think people can and should succeed on their own, you are dreaming of something foolishly "bootstrappy" that they cannot possibly be expected to achieve without government.

/proud bootstrappy bigot.


ahhhh, the conservative victim. That train is never late!
2014-04-17 03:04:11 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: /proud bootstrappy bigot.


you could have erased the rest of your whining and just posted this
2014-04-17 03:01:12 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: In short, bigotry is not a valid stance to take in society any longer and those that cling to it openly will suffer for it.


Hence the universal use of that term for any and all objections.

If you want the immigration laws enforced - BIGOT! (xenophobe),
If you oppose anything gay - BIGOT! (homophobe),
If you don't want to buy other people's birth control pills - BIGOT! (war on women),
If you think a viable fetus has the right to be born - BIGOT! (more war on women),
If you bring up black illegitimacy and drop out rates - BIGOT! (racist),
If you think you should have to prove who you are to vote - BIGOT! (more racist),
If you think white western culture has contributed more to humanity than all others combined - BIGOT! (extremely racist).

Pretty much any disagreement with the left will get you the bigot label in one form or another.

Also, if you're religious you can't possibly believe or enjoy science.

And if you think any government program should ever be cut or people should get to keep more of the money they earn, you're an evil straight from Dickens snatching the last morsel from a starving child.

If you think people can and should succeed on their own, you are dreaming of something foolishly "bootstrappy" that they cannot possibly be expected to achieve without government.

/proud bootstrappy bigot.
2014-04-17 02:51:18 PM  
1 votes:

heap: the fun part of this one is way out in tangentville from what's typically discussed - the 'money=speech' routine we've all become innoculated with.

It's now normal to evaluate the politcal stances of the businesses where you buy underwear, a chicken sammitch, or apparently a free browser. It isn't just the businesses speech expressed by the money given by it or its constituent members, it's now *your* money that you'll either give to these companies, or keep in your pocket...that's considered speech.

There are groups dedicated to letting people stay abreast of whether their perveyor of Fruit Loops thinks the right things about gays, guns, and god (on both sides of the issues). This is apparently like...normal.

Can't we just save some time and have the right wing hardware store and the left wing grocery store have a rumble in the shared parking lot? I swear to zombie jesus, the moment that lining up to buy a chicken sammich became seen as a political statement by those involved, Fonzie jumped over 37 sharks.


Hadn't you heard? Corporations are people now, and just like people, a disturbingly large number of them are loudmouth dipsh*ts with ill-formed political opinions.
2014-04-17 02:45:17 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: In California, Mozilla's chief executive is forced to resign because he once made a political donation in support of the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.

This country has come to a sad state of affairs when homosexualist advocates are allowed to freely advocate a boycott of a private company.


I'm sure they feel the exact same way when Family Research Council (or other Conservative entities) boycott some company over abortion, homosexual rights, or 'fer the chilldrun' complaints to the FCC, et al. There is no way they would have a double-standard. Double-standards are for liebruls and MSM Lamestream media.

/snicker
2014-04-17 02:27:21 PM  
1 votes:
Of course you're always entitled to express your opinion.  How else are we to know that you're a raging farkwit?
2014-04-17 02:17:38 PM  
1 votes:

Jjaro: How is that not hypocritical?


Well, mostly because it's not true. Obama has been taking flak for his vacillating opinion on the issue since he ran for his senate seat and Clinton was president 20 years ago during a time period when social opinions on homosexuality were just beginning to come around. You can't just look back to a time period when EVERYBODY'S opinions were different and then criticize one of those people for changing it.

Back to the point of Obama, unlike the unapologetically homophobic Eich, Obama opposed Prop 8 and his opinion, while shifting with the political winds, has never been firmly anti-gay. He has always supported, at a bare minimum, civil unions and has never donated to restrict the rights of others based on their sexual orientation. Apples, meet oranges.

But, whatever. If they didn't have completely inapt analogies and similes the right wouldn't have any at all, it seems.
2014-04-17 02:14:12 PM  
1 votes:

qorkfiend: Jjaro: And Cheney, and other Republicans, supported Gay Mariage before Obama or Clinton "came around."

[i.imgur.com image 562x437]


IIRC, Dick Cheney didn't "support" marriage equality so much as "didn't join the Republican fight against it". Privately, I think it's clear he does support it, but publicly, it was "No comment. We love our daughters" for Junior's whole tenure in office.

And LOL "other Republicans supported gay marriage". Yeah - supported it so hard they kicked the LCR out of CPAC, what, 3 years running? And made "maridge = 1 hoohoodilly + one cha-cha" an official part of the Party Platform.
2014-04-17 02:12:54 PM  
1 votes:
All the recent spate of conservative butthurt and "can't we all get along?" whining comes down to one thing: they're losing. They're losing on every front, they know they're losing, and suddenly the ideological inflexibility which was fine when they were calling the shots is proof of progressive unfairness. In a certain sense this guy is right--people should be willing to listen to the arguments of the other side and argue them civilly. But when your ideological opponents have positioned themselves at the extreme of edge of, not only what's civil but what's ethical, and increasingly, what's legal, you are within your rights to refuse to reach out across an abyss of disagreement which they themselves created. The right wing has staked out a position that is reactionary and called it the new conservative norm. Old fashioned liberals and moderates are not obliged to accept their extremism as legitimate. We are no more obliged to communicate with them civilly than we are with the representatives of the Westboro Baptist Church.
2014-04-17 02:10:03 PM  
1 votes:
"How the Left..."

images.starcraftmazter.net
2014-04-17 02:08:45 PM  
1 votes:
There were a lot of words in that article but for some reason it all read like

i371.photobucket.com
2014-04-17 02:06:47 PM  
1 votes:

Jjaro: the people who were so adament about getting that guy fired, for making a donation 6 years ago, when his views dont affect his work at all, while not even caring about their "teams" recent stance on the very same issue


This is the first time I've heard that the people who signed that petition never criticized Democrats who opposed gay marriage. If that's true then they deserve to be called hypocritical.

But is it true, or is it just a bullsh*t accusation? Because it sure sounds like a bullsh*t accusation.
2014-04-17 01:42:24 PM  
1 votes:
Dammit.....

img.fark.net
                RIP  IDIC
2014-04-17 01:41:39 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: In California, Mozilla's chief executive is forced to resign because he once made a political donation in support of the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.

This country has come to a sad state of affairs when homosexualist advocates are allowed to freely advocate a boycott of a private company.


You better say Merry Christmas and not Happy Hollidays or Bill O'Reilly and his viewers will organize a boycott!
2014-04-17 01:38:20 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: This country has come to a sad state of affairs when homosexualist advocates are allowed to freely advocate a boycott of a private company.


i.imgur.com
2014-04-17 01:35:37 PM  
1 votes:
This is how a saw it:

static.ddmcdn.com

Lots of that.
2014-04-17 01:33:50 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: SauronWasFramed: stpauler: It seems the author doesn't understand the often repeated "free speech doesn't mean free from consequences". I wonder if he would like his home address published with a target painted over his face and the words "America's Biggest Pedophile" written under it.  If he's all about free speech, then he should be totes OK with that, right?

/ because the left holds democrats to such stringent standards

// Remembers that Obama and Clinton both opposed ssm until they were for it and nary a discouraging word was uttered.

Aw, poor baby...the left is clearly keep you and all freedom-loving Americans down.

Seriously, dude, that was some weak-ass "b-b-b-b-but" shiat




Hypocrisy is hypocrisy no matter what your ideology is. And if you are a democrat, it must be hurt straining your neck looking the other way.


lol
2014-04-17 01:03:07 PM  
1 votes:
This is just like the Nazi's.
2014-04-17 12:43:36 PM  
1 votes:
a bloo blah blooo

why won't liberal collectivist communist fascists stop being mean to us :(
2014-04-17 12:30:24 PM  
1 votes:

SauronWasFramed: stpauler: It seems the author doesn't understand the often repeated "free speech doesn't mean free from consequences". I wonder if he would like his home address published with a target painted over his face and the words "America's Biggest Pedophile" written under it.  If he's all about free speech, then he should be totes OK with that, right?

/ because the left holds democrats to such stringent standards

// Remembers that Obama and Clinton both opposed ssm until they were for it and nary a discouraging word was uttered.


Aw, poor baby...the left is clearly keep you and all freedom-loving Americans down.

Seriously, dude, that was some weak-ass "b-b-b-b-but" shiat
2014-04-17 12:15:27 PM  
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: Infernalist: I neither know, nor care, about whatever cases you're going on about.

You ought to read the article, then.


Why?  I don't care.
2014-04-17 12:10:11 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: I neither know, nor care, about whatever cases you're going on about.


You ought to read the article, then.
2014-04-17 12:04:50 PM  
1 votes:

stpauler: It seems the author doesn't understand the often repeated "free speech doesn't mean free from consequences".


By and large these aren't cases of businesses doing as they see fit - these are governments cracking down on a free press, and even supposedly liberal journalists asking governments to crack down on those who disagree with them.
2014-04-17 11:55:25 AM  
1 votes:

vpb: the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.

Right.  It's sad to see chicken farking spread to Europe.


This is how plagues start.
2014-04-17 11:43:49 AM  
1 votes:
Yeah, we've never before collectively decided as a society that some political beliefs are morally reprehensible to work toward.
 
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