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(Popular Science)   You're not as highly evolved as you think you are. Florida tag because, well, have you been there lately?   (popsci.com) divider line 13
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2014-04-17 10:16:09 AM
Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".
 
2014-04-17 10:45:48 AM

Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".


Also, the items they list are mostly things that have come about very, very rapidly compared to the glacial rate of evolutionary change.  The surfeit of calories is really a last-100-years thing.  We weren't evolved to sit at desks in modern society, since neither of those things existed to exert evolutionary pressure until really the 20th century.
 
2014-04-17 11:51:41 AM

Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".


Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.
 
2014-04-17 11:54:35 AM

meat0918: Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".

Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.


"Fitness" is also relative based upon environmental conditions.
 
2014-04-17 12:02:56 PM

Dimensio: meat0918: Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".

Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.

"Fitness" is also relative based upon environmental conditions.


Well, then.

I declare
The water bear
To be the most evolved of all
 
2014-04-17 12:28:57 PM
Florida tag?  Isn't Smitty's mom enough proof that evolution isn't applied equally?
 
2014-04-17 03:16:13 PM
I'm evolving right now, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-04-17 03:20:24 PM

meat0918: Dimensio: meat0918: Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".

Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.

"Fitness" is also relative based upon environmental conditions.

Well, then.

I declare
The water bear
To be the most evolved of all


Really, they're the among the least evolved, as they've been around for so long.

Humans, being recent, are arguably the most evolved by that standard as we've changed so much over time to what we are today.
 
2014-04-17 07:11:07 PM

omeganuepsilon: meat0918: Dimensio: meat0918: Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".

Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.

"Fitness" is also relative based upon environmental conditions.

Well, then.

I declare
The water bear
To be the most evolved of all

Really, they're the among the least evolved, as they've been around for so long.

Humans, being recent, are arguably the most evolved by that standard as we've changed so much over time to what we are today.


That just means they got it right the first time and didn't need to keep tinkering. Humans are still trying to catch up.
 
2014-04-17 07:45:40 PM

Ramien: omeganuepsilon: meat0918: Dimensio: meat0918: Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".

Fitness is the only measure.  Ok, not the only measure, but it's close enough for government work.

"Fitness" is also relative based upon environmental conditions.

Well, then.

I declare
The water bear
To be the most evolved of all

Really, they're the among the least evolved, as they've been around for so long.

Humans, being recent, are arguably the most evolved by that standard as we've changed so much over time to what we are today.

That just means they got it right the first time and didn't need to keep tinkering. Humans are still trying to catch up.


And that's fine, if you're talking about survivability, in which we're doomed because we're just too squishy.

But, topically, "highly evolved" is just as I said.  We're more advanced, more complicated, and with that comes more flaws and weaknesses.
 
2014-04-17 07:49:54 PM
To put it a different way, it's like calling the guy who won on his first roll of the dice a better consumate gambler, despite the fact that we consistently have made a living out of it.

It has nothing to do with "better"  We've just benefited from gambling more.  We consistently pull in money in smaller lumped amounts, but in total we're making more and living a higher quality of life.  That guy hit the jackpot and retired, but lives a meager existence by rationing out his winnings.
 
2014-04-17 10:09:16 PM

Dimensio: Scientifically, the concept of a "highly evolved" organism is undefined. Evolution has no "rating" or "level".


Rating....what?

"Highly evolved" is often used to mean something that has gone though many evolutionary changes.  In this case "many" is a relative term.  It doesn't need to have an absolute value placed on it.  Only a comparative value.  For example, ferns are not as highly evolved as humans.  (Relative, or "comparative").
 
2014-04-17 10:10:38 PM

meat0918: Fitness is the only measure.


No.  See fern example above.
 
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