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(Newser)   Only one lifeboat was deployed from sinking ferry in South Korea. Guess who was aboard   (newser.com) divider line 35
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2014-04-17 10:39:57 AM  
11 votes:
Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!
2014-04-17 11:38:15 AM  
3 votes:

LineNoise: nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.


Maybe so, but it seems to me that if he was able to get his own lifeboat deployed, he should have managed more with it. Looks pretty bad for the captain to be in the *only* lifeboat deployed.
2014-04-17 11:37:34 AM  
3 votes:

LineNoise: nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.


Yeah, no. A captain abandoning a sinking ship in order to secure his personal safety before seeing to the safety of his passengers and crew is an act of supreme cowardice.
2014-04-17 11:33:04 AM  
3 votes:
nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.
2014-04-17 12:08:02 PM  
2 votes:

LineNoise: nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.


While he was hopping into a lifeboat, the passengers were still being told to stay where they were.  He had 30 minutes from when he made the Mayday call to get them off.  He didn't.  Instead of being evacuated, he left them to die while he ran away like a piss-pantsed coward.

He can rot in Hell.
2014-04-17 11:42:45 AM  
2 votes:

qorkfiend: LineNoise: nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.

Yeah, no. A captain abandoning a sinking ship in order to secure his personal safety before seeing to the safety of his passengers and crew is an act of supreme cowardice.


Especially if it's true that he was in the lifeboat after only half an hour, which would mean it was during the time the passengers were still being told to stay in place.  The only reason some people made it out was because they ignored the orders from the crew, grabbed their own life jackets, and got of the boat.
2014-04-17 11:32:58 AM  
2 votes:
Tennille?
2014-04-17 05:18:24 PM  
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: This. It takes a third-world mentality to not see that.


third-world what now?

Cap'n Mahendra Nath Mulla, from beyond, might beg to differ.
2014-04-17 04:39:39 PM  
1 votes:

JohnBigBootay: But that won't change the fact that it was in no way possible for him to search that entire boat.


My personal standard would be 'Every lifeboat deployed, every non-submerged compartment checked by the crew, said crew is now in the lifeboats, and there's still an open spot'
2014-04-17 12:32:11 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: Russ1642: Tigger: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: LineNoise: nekom: Absolutely shameful.  I don't expect the captain to go down with the ship, but he ought to be the very LAST person off.  That's just how that works.  When Capt. Sully ditched a plane in the Hudson river, he made one final sweep of the aircraft to make sure no one was left before he himself got out.  If you don't want that responsibility, don't sign up to be a captain!

In this case it might not be quite the same as the concordia.

Remember, the captain's duty is to preserve life. If his ship has rolled, he has people in the water and possibly trapped, it is possible that the best place for him to direct the rescue is from another boat. He knows his ship, can help direct responders, etc. Him being trapped below decks doesn't do any good for anyone.

In other words, how about we wait for some actual details and facts before throwing someone to the sharks.

Oh look everybody - it's THAT guy.

Yes, yes, we bow to how superior you are to all the people who are outraged by this story.  You are truly a better human being than us.  More understanding, more compassionate, less judgmental than normal people.

We have actual details and facts.

He abandoned ship. This is unconscionable and a crime in many countries for a captain.

Aoparently there's been a moratorium on the death penalty in Korea since 1998. Wouldn't surprise me if they reset the "days without an execution" sign for this guy.

ostracised and shamed into suicide is more likely given the way the culture works.


Left in a room alone and given a gun and one bullet.
2014-04-17 12:24:33 PM  
1 votes:
Why would anyone stay in a room when a ship is sinking? You obviously want to be on deck. Best case you get in a lifeboat, worse case you jump off. Either way you have a shot. Below decks there is no best case unless you want to reenact The Poseidon Adventure.
2014-04-17 12:16:59 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder how many of the crew could work the Davits system to actually, you know, launch the lifeboats?
If they were the SOLAS capsules they should have deployed and inflated automatically when the boat submerged to a given depth.  Not sure if Korea participates in Solas convention.

If the order was given for passengers to don lifejackets while still inside the ship, that's bad news as the buoyancy of the jackets would keep people from being able to leave compartments if the ship fills with water.
Considering the order that was given.

I'd put money on the Captain being too complacent with the operation of the ship and safety drills.  He probably relied on the mates to take care of it (if there were any) and they did a sorry job.  It's when hubris takes over and you think everythings taken care of when Murphy comes aboard.  Also why you need to beat your crew every so often....
2014-04-17 12:13:03 PM  
1 votes:
Gordon Lightfoot?
2014-04-17 12:11:02 PM  
1 votes:
The Dread Pirate Roberts?
2014-04-17 12:10:42 PM  
1 votes:
The initial orders issued over the PA system were for passengers to don a life jacket but remain in place rather than try to escape, which may have been a fatal mistake. A crew member explains to the AP that no immediate evacuation order was issued because officers were attempting to stabilize the vessel after it started to tilt. He says an evacuation order was given by the captain 30 minutes later, but he wasn't sure if it went out over the PA; some survivors say they never heard it. The delayed evacuation order also likely kept lifeboats from being deployed, the AP notes.

Well, there you have it.
2014-04-17 12:07:18 PM  
1 votes:
Captain Wi Sing Kin.
2014-04-17 11:59:44 AM  
1 votes:
This guy?

upload.wikimedia.org
2014-04-17 11:42:08 AM  
1 votes:
Edward Smith?  No, wait.  He went down with his ship.
2014-04-17 11:41:27 AM  
1 votes:
Gilligan?
2014-04-17 11:41:13 AM  
1 votes:
Buff Drinklots?
2014-04-17 11:41:02 AM  
1 votes:
Three people who have never been in my kitchen?
2014-04-17 11:38:09 AM  
1 votes:
www.florencedailynews.com

WASAAAAAAP!!!!
2014-04-17 11:37:42 AM  
1 votes:
Heh...life imitates yesterday's Fark headline?

/is willing to wait for more evidence, but this sure SOUNDS bad
2014-04-17 11:37:10 AM  
1 votes:
i1.ytimg.com
2014-04-17 11:36:38 AM  
1 votes:
The guy who fixed the cable?
2014-04-17 11:35:13 AM  
1 votes:
Dominican prostitutes sailing for Limbaugh's house?
2014-04-17 11:33:40 AM  
1 votes:
Survivorman and Sasquatch?
2014-04-17 11:33:33 AM  
1 votes:
i2.cdn.turner.com
2014-04-17 11:31:53 AM  
1 votes:
Obama?
2014-04-17 11:31:18 AM  
1 votes:
Leonardo Di Caprio?
2014-04-17 11:30:50 AM  
1 votes:
Psy?
2014-04-17 10:40:31 AM  
1 votes:
People who have never been in my kitchen?
2014-04-17 10:35:43 AM  
1 votes:
Anne Frank?
2014-04-17 10:25:15 AM  
1 votes:
Francesco Schettino?
2014-04-17 10:21:54 AM  
1 votes:
Kim Jong-un?
 
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