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2014-04-17 09:50:24 AM
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He drove....   Poorly.
 
2014-04-17 09:50:31 AM
What town in Connecticut?
 
2014-04-17 10:03:22 AM
Once it's restored won't it be something like my Grandfather's ax?

/This is my grandfather's ax, my father replaced the handle, I replaced the head.
 
2014-04-17 10:11:23 AM
I thought it was in Deleware.
www.theonion.com
/oblig
 
2014-04-17 10:14:10 AM
I was coming to mock another Mustang story, but no, it's about actual muscle cars.

/I miss Pontiac.
 
2014-04-17 10:25:10 AM
"A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days."

So, a typical shiatty Gas Monkey bondo job.
 
2014-04-17 11:14:09 AM

fatalvenom: "A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days."

So, a typical shiatty Gas Monkey bondo job.


For $200,000 each, I'm thinking more like museum quality.
 
2014-04-17 11:21:35 AM
A guy wanted them fully restored to use as the centerpieces of a Pontiac museum in North Dakota, and he wanted them done in 60 days," he says. "A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days.

Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"
 
2014-04-17 11:26:59 AM

fatalvenom: So, a typical shiatty Gas Monkey bondo job.


You'll get over it eventually, Jesse James.
 
2014-04-17 11:27:18 AM

If you're a muscle
pony car enthusiast, that is


There.
 
2014-04-17 11:29:10 AM

Lando Lincoln: Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"


Ah, who cares?  Compared to some of the "reality" television out there, Fast n Loud is the frickin' equivalent of Breaking Bad.

You can always go watch Amish Mafia or some shiat.
 
2014-04-17 11:35:39 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: If you're a muscle pony car enthusiast, that is


There.


Thank you,
It had to be said.
 
2014-04-17 11:36:25 AM

Lando Lincoln: A guy wanted them fully restored to use as the centerpieces of a Pontiac museum in North Dakota, and he wanted them done in 60 days," he says. "A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days.

Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"


You get it.
 
2014-04-17 11:37:41 AM

Lando Lincoln: let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"


yeah, they have a deadline out the door of Griswalds on vacation.
just put a moose out front.
 
2014-04-17 11:39:02 AM
"Man, I thought for sure that adding our 48" Gas Monkey logo to these would add another $15-20K easy!"
 
2014-04-17 11:41:14 AM
Wow.

It has an engine, tires, and doors that open and close!

Impressive.
 
2014-04-17 11:49:41 AM

Lando Lincoln: A guy wanted them fully restored to use as the centerpieces of a Pontiac museum in North Dakota, and he wanted them done in 60 days," he says. "A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days.

Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"


Is the implication that the show will have a 60-day countdown timer ticking away in the corner of the screen, and the crew will finish the restorations with exactly 00:01 left on the clock?

At any rate, the article reads more like a promotion for the show than anything else.

/ Farking unscripted shows (I refuse to call them 'reality' shows)
// Don't watch any and attribute them to the 'dumbing down' of America [see Discovery, TLC (remember when it was The Learning Channel and actually hosted somewhat intelligent programming?, The History Channel (remember when they showed documentary-style programs on historical events/people/places?), etc.]
/// Slashies for smugness
 
2014-04-17 11:59:58 AM
My grandfather had a mint 67 firebird. It rocked.  Only 80 year old I knew who got a ticket for passing a cop on the right because the cop was going too slow.  Unfortunately he sold that car for $5000 back in 1982.  He did dumb things like that.  He had a 1000 sq ft cabin that he sold for $12,000 in 1970 that just sold for $450,000.
 
2014-04-17 12:00:32 PM
I like the early Camaros and Firebirds, but the true Holy Grail of muscle cars would be the 1st GTO
 
2014-04-17 12:00:54 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: If you're a pony car enthusiast, that is


There.


Still no. Was expecting something more valuable and worth it.
 
2014-04-17 12:17:24 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I like the early Camaros and Firebirds, but the true Holy Grail of muscle cars would be the 1st GTO


Actual GTO or option package add-on to the LeMans?
 
2014-04-17 12:33:56 PM
Basically two crappy test mules.
 
2014-04-17 12:34:12 PM
I take it the ratings for Gas Monkey Garage are dropping and they need to stir up some excitement. The last show sucked and I couldn't care less about his restaurant. Go back to restoring cars already.
 
2014-04-17 12:35:23 PM
There's a Pontiac museum in North Dakota?

That's news to me. I have a feeling a private collector bought them and no one will ever see them again.
 
2014-04-17 12:36:15 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I was coming to mock another Mustang story, but no, it's about actual muscle cars.

/I miss Pontiac.


The old Pontiac maybe, not the (Chevy) + (plastic screw-on panels) of their final twenty years.
Bonneville
Grand-Am
Vibe
Aztec
Those things were turds with peanut attachments.
 
2014-04-17 12:37:37 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I like the early Camaros and Firebirds, but the true Holy Grail of muscle cars would be the 1st GTO


Sorry but no.  The Holy Grail should be one of these

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1820.html">http://www.supercars.net/ca rs/1820.html

63 Galaxy 500 Lightweight.
 
2014-04-17 12:40:32 PM

Lando Lincoln: A guy wanted them fully restored to use as the centerpieces of a Pontiac museum in North Dakota, and he wanted them done in 60 days," he says. "A full restoration for a regular shop would take a year or year-and-a-half, but we finished both cars in 60 days.

Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"


Why yes 40 hours is more than enough time for doing the body and paint work for a museum quality paint.  Lets just call up my buddy Earl Schieb and he can do it in record time.
 
2014-04-17 12:42:03 PM
Had a '67 w/400. Wow!
 
2014-04-17 12:52:05 PM
if i learned anything from indiana jones and the last crusade, the holy grail of cars would be a heavily dented and rusted lada with horrible rod knock
 
2014-04-17 12:55:47 PM

Glitchwerks: Lando Lincoln: Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"

Ah, who cares?  Compared to some of the "reality" television out there, Fast n Loud is the frickin' equivalent of Breaking Bad.

You can always go watch Amish Mafia or some shiat.


Why don't they just go the "This Old House" route and just keep working on a car until it's done? Sure, they can accelerate the schedule by having a crapload of guys working on a car, but just don't bother faking the deadline schedule. It's not like the muscle car nuts are going to get bored watching them restore the cars to their former glory if it takes six episodes instead of just three.
 
2014-04-17 01:10:40 PM

Lando Lincoln: Glitchwerks: Lando Lincoln: Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"

Ah, who cares?  Compared to some of the "reality" television out there, Fast n Loud is the frickin' equivalent of Breaking Bad.

You can always go watch Amish Mafia or some shiat.

Why don't they just go the "This Old House" route and just keep working on a car until it's done? Sure, they can accelerate the schedule by having a crapload of guys working on a car, but just don't bother faking the deadline schedule. It's not like the muscle car nuts are going to get bored watching them restore the cars to their former glory if it takes six episodes instead of just three.


That would be Chop Cut Rebuild.
 
2014-04-17 01:11:57 PM

Lando Lincoln: Glitchwerks: Lando Lincoln: Translation: "We work on a stupid reality show and we needed to add some bullshiat drama, so...let's pretend that the museum owner needed these cars in 60 days to really drum up the tension!"

Ah, who cares?  Compared to some of the "reality" television out there, Fast n Loud is the frickin' equivalent of Breaking Bad.

You can always go watch Amish Mafia or some shiat.

Why don't they just go the "This Old House" route and just keep working on a car until it's done? Sure, they can accelerate the schedule by having a crapload of guys working on a car, but just don't bother faking the deadline schedule. It's not like the muscle car nuts are going to get bored watching them restore the cars to their former glory if it takes six episodes instead of just three.


At which point of footage is the car restoration just putting up more drywall? Anything below the level of fabricating parts is pretty much the same across all cars for all the shows, so they have to blow through the technique to get to the fun stuff.
 
2014-04-17 01:25:00 PM
As someone who has a '67 Firebird with a (non-numbers matching) 400, I'm getting a kick out of these replies?

CSB: It took me a year to track down a new door glass mounting channel for it.  After the first year GM changed many parts, making restoration of a 67 firebird/camaro much more difficult and expensive than a 68-69.
 
2014-04-17 01:45:29 PM

sabreWulf07: As someone who has a '67 Firebird with a (non-numbers matching) 400, I'm getting a kick out of these replies?

CSB: It took me a year to track down a new door glass mounting channel for it.  After the first year GM changed many parts, making restoration of a 67 firebird/camaro much more difficult and expensive than a 68-69.


Not a GM guy, but I've always had a soft spot for the vent window Camaro.
 
2014-04-17 01:46:21 PM
I first read the headline as " if you're a muscle enthusiast" and was expecting a completely different topic.
 
2014-04-17 02:07:41 PM

Odd Bird: FirstNationalBastard: I was coming to mock another Mustang story, but no, it's about actual muscle cars.

/I miss Pontiac.

The old Pontiac maybe, not the (Chevy) + (plastic screw-on panels) of their final twenty years.
Bonneville
Grand-Am
Vibe
Aztec
Those things were turds with peanut attachments.


The Vibe is just a Toyota Matrix, a solid four door compact hatchback. I agree on the Aztech and Grand Am tho'.
 
2014-04-17 02:15:33 PM

Saiga410: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I like the early Camaros and Firebirds, but the true Holy Grail of muscle cars would be the 1st GTO

Sorry but no.  The Holy Grail should be one of these

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1820.html">http://www.supercars.net/ca rs/1820.html

63 Galaxy 500 Lightweight.


This guy. I like this guy.

/cars stopped looking good after about '66 except the last of the first-gen Mustangs, the Riviera, and some foreign stuff
//all GM stuff is big, bloated, boring, and boorish
 
2014-04-17 02:38:01 PM
I really wanted to buy a Charger, but where I live it snows about half the year, and I don't want the hassle of either having a second vehicle or trying to get around in snow with rear wheel drive. I ended up going for a V-6 Avenger, as it is one of the very few front wheel drives with a more muscular frame.
 
2014-04-17 02:45:26 PM

Orgasmatron138: I really wanted to buy a Charger, but where I live it snows about half the year, and I don't want the hassle of either having a second vehicle or trying to get around in snow with rear wheel drive. I ended up going for a V-6 Avenger, as it is one of the very few front wheel drives with a more muscular frame.


ummmmm dude...

http://www.dodge.com/hostc/bmo/CUD201404/models.do

pay attention to where it says AWD
 
2014-04-17 03:02:55 PM

BEER_ME_in_CT: Orgasmatron138: I really wanted to buy a Charger, but where I live it snows about half the year, and I don't want the hassle of either having a second vehicle or trying to get around in snow with rear wheel drive. I ended up going for a V-6 Avenger, as it is one of the very few front wheel drives with a more muscular frame.

ummmmm dude...

http://www.dodge.com/hostc/bmo/CUD201404/models.do

pay attention to where it says AWD


I lumped AWD in with RWD when considering the puchase after reading about the Michelin study that said that AWD still presented problems with snow driving compared to FWD.

You are correct, though, in differentiating.
 
2014-04-17 03:14:38 PM

BEER_ME_in_CT: ummmmm dude...

http://www.dodge.com/hostc/bmo/CUD201404/models.do

pay attention to where it says AWD


*cough*

"Build & Price:  2014 Dodge Charger SE RWD"

Some are RWD and some are AWD depending on your package.  Mine is most certainly AWD, but the traction control system keeps it pretty much under control in winter weather conditions.

Cop chargers rock
 
2014-04-17 03:15:33 PM
Correction... mine is most certainly not AWD.

Forgetting that little word really changes things.
 
2014-04-17 03:16:04 PM

Odd Bird: FirstNationalBastard: I was coming to mock another Mustang story, but no, it's about actual muscle cars.

/I miss Pontiac.

The old Pontiac maybe, not the (Chevy) + (plastic screw-on panels) of their final twenty years.
Bonneville
Grand-Am
Vibe
Aztec
Those things were turds with peanut attachments.


Don't try to blame Chevy for the Aztec.
 
2014-04-17 04:04:52 PM
That's the coupe of a carpenter!
 
2014-04-17 04:37:21 PM
The Gas Douche Bag fired Tom who was the best part of that show.
 
2014-04-17 04:57:38 PM

Saiga410: Sorry but no.  The Holy Grail should be one of these

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1820.html">http://www.supercars.net/ca rs/1820.html

63 Galaxy 500 Lightweight.



A solid entry. I submit the following for consideration:

http://www.supercars.net/cars/5353.html

1957 F-Code Thunderbird. 300HP...out of a 312 Y block. It beat the GTO to market by 7 full years and was the predecessor to the Thunderbolt.

For me, personally, the Holy Grail of muscle cars is the 1970 Torino Cobra with the 429 SCJ.
 
2014-04-17 05:08:26 PM

Caelistis: Saiga410: Sorry but no.  The Holy Grail should be one of these

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1820.html">http://www.supercars.net/ca rs/1820.html

63 Galaxy 500 Lightweight.


A solid entry. I submit the following for consideration:

http://www.supercars.net/cars/5353.html

1957 F-Code Thunderbird. 300HP...out of a 312 Y block. It beat the GTO to market by 7 full years and was the predecessor to the Thunderbolt.

For me, personally, the Holy Grail of muscle cars is the 1970 Torino Cobra with the 429 SCJ.


I would love to get my hands on one of those supercharges just to get into its guts.

csb
Growing up my dad had a 46 GMC Panel with a 305 with the variable pulley McCulloch supercharger on it.  I do not understand why Paxton hasnt offerered either variable speed techs on their current offerings.
end csb
 
2014-04-17 05:17:20 PM
I had a 75 grandville with a 400 in it. 8 MPG be damned it was like driving a house. The most comfortable ride I've been in, and the bench seats were large enough for someone with a 6'2" frame to sleep on.
 
2014-04-17 05:41:41 PM

Saiga410: I would love to get my hands on one of those supercharges just to get into its guts.

csb
Growing up my dad had a 46 GMC Panel with a 305 with the variable pulley McCulloch supercharger on it.  I do not understand why Paxton hasnt offerered either variable speed techs on their current offerings.
end csb


csb
I have an answer for the original Paxton as my grandfather had one of those F code T-birds. As I recall him explaining it to my then 7 year old self, it was extremely similar to the guts of the superchargers they used on WWII fighters, just a whole lot smaller.
end csb

I'm not sure about Paxton these days. It seems like they're almost an also ran to Eaton and now Edelbrock in terms of innovation in design. The Eaton that was on my '03 Cobra, and the one on my '01 Lightning, definitely change the boost level based on throttle position.  However, those are both obviously twin screw and not centrifugal superchargers. More of a roots style fan myself.
 
2014-04-17 07:18:38 PM

Caelistis: As I recall him explaining it to my then 7 year old self, it was extremely similar to the guts of the superchargers they used on WWII fighters, just a whole lot smaller.


That's because after WWII there were a few thousand dudes with experience suddenly looking for work. That's why hot rods when from "shiatboxes with flatheads" to "actually very nice cars" and then ultimately "legitimate sport" starting in the late '40s -- guys had time (no war) and skills (from the war).

/either Ak Miller or Barney Navarro was God, I'm not sure which
 
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