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(UPI)   Hmm. 400% increase in antidepressant use since the '80s... huge increase in autism since the '80s... autism begins in early pregnancy.... It's almost like... naw. It has to be vaccines   (upi.com) divider line 378
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2014-04-17 03:44:05 AM
407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.
 
2014-04-17 03:55:55 AM
I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?
 
2014-04-17 03:58:08 AM
But for farks sake dont make a comparison to increased SSRI's use and school shootings.
 
2014-04-17 04:06:01 AM

colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.


I'll attribute this post to the increase in Adderall prescriptions.
 
2014-04-17 04:15:52 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


I was surprised to learn that I was one of very few in my circle of RL friends who didn't use them. Over the last few years, several of those friends have tapered off, but still....

Around 2002, I was working with an HR/Benefits manager for a company of about 3,000 employees. He received statistics from the company's health insurer. 80% of the policies issued to our employees had at least one prescription for antidepressants (they were blind statistics -- it could have been an employee or family member, and we weren't told which policies were affected).
 
2014-04-17 04:29:12 AM

colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.


Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.
 
2014-04-17 04:38:36 AM

JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.


A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.
 
2014-04-17 04:45:58 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.


Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist
 
2014-04-17 04:50:43 AM

JoieD'Zen: Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.


I'll bet you can't find one that's not published on a naturopathy site.
 
2014-04-17 05:20:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


I had a talk with a local college student at work a while back, and she'd mentioned in passing a friend, and her history of mental health concerns, and that she'd used antidepressants.  She followed that up with "Then again, who hasn't?"

I don't know if they're overprescribed, or if more people "back in MY day" could have benefited and didn't get help, or what.  But that statement still caught me just a wee bit off-guard.
 
2014-04-17 06:42:14 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


What's wrong with our medical system is what you really mean.

The USA is only one of two countries where pharma can advertise prescription drugs on TV.  That would be a good place to start.
 
2014-04-17 06:44:46 AM

JoieD'Zen: Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA


Unknown protein allergies are the largest threat presented by GMOs.  Otherwise they are filled with perfectly cromulent proteins that your stomach acid breaks down quite nicely.
 
2014-04-17 06:45:29 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: I'll bet you can't find one that's not published on a naturopathy site


I would settle for a single peer reviewed journal article.
 
2014-04-17 06:45:59 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist

Obviously.
 
2014-04-17 06:47:04 AM
If only there was some drug Jenny McCarthy could take to help her get past the shock of hearing about this study.
 
2014-04-17 07:44:54 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: I'll bet you can't find one that's not published on a naturopathy site


TOXINS! TOXINS!

wake up sheeple
 
2014-04-17 07:47:33 AM

Marcus Aurelius: AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?

What's wrong with our medical system is what you really mean.

The USA is only one of two countries where pharma can advertise prescription drugs on TV.  That would be a good place to start.


It never occurred to me before just now how incredibly weird that actually is.
 
2014-04-17 07:47:47 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.


I'm pretty wary of GMO foods, and I've never seen those studies...got any links?
 
2014-04-17 07:48:58 AM
Correlation, Causation.

Blah blah blah.
 
2014-04-17 07:49:50 AM
this is why i smoke weed.
 
2014-04-17 07:50:12 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist


You serious, Clark?
 
2014-04-17 07:50:14 AM

Marcus Aurelius: JoieD'Zen: Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA

Unknown protein allergies are the largest threat presented by GMOs.  Otherwise they are filled with perfectly cromulent proteins that your stomach acid breaks down quite nicely.


Almost every "attributable" issue with GMO can also happen with normal hybridization and other plant propagation methods.    Not every GMO is bad, not every naturally propagated thing is good.

GMO ain't nowhere near the threat that the agribusiness large scale use of antibiotics is, which has been pretty rigorously scientifically proven.    Oddly it's not hard to avoid supporting these people.    Antibiotic free eggs are readily available and you don't even have to go Organic.   Even Frank Purdue produces USDA process verified chicken without antibiotics.    There's no overwhelming reason other than a little  unwarranted greed by major agribusiness.
 
2014-04-17 07:50:32 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist


OTOH, I am a scientist (PhD in developmental genetics).

Please stop posting nonsense.
 
2014-04-17 07:51:13 AM

PunGent: I'm pretty wary of GMO foods, and I've never seen those studies...got any links?


ahh hahhahahahahahah
 
2014-04-17 07:51:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


A gramme is better than a damn.
 
2014-04-17 07:51:32 AM
Shrinks are quacks, and their pills are snake oil.
 
2014-04-17 07:52:54 AM
Life's just much too hard today. I hear every mother say: "The pursuit of happiness just seems a bore!"
 
2014-04-17 07:53:12 AM

JoieD'Zen: /not a scientist


I would have never guessed.

Marcus Aurelius: Unknown protein allergies are the largest threat presented by GMOs


Bingo. The other serious threat is the agribusiness approaches that push GMOs- germ-line patents, monoculture, etc.

I like how sweet corn somehow isn't a GMO, apparently because it was modified before we actually understood DNA. "Let's expose seeds to radiation and then make the results the staple crop of the US!" doesn't seem to get the same outrage that "let's splice known DNA sequences into organisms to have them create known proteins."
 
2014-04-17 07:54:01 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist


There is about a 90% chance that anything claiming a problem is caused by a "build up of toxins" or that something can be treated by "purging toxins from the body" is made up bullshiat. If it doesn't specify elsewhere exactly what those "toxins" are, it is 100% bullshiat or written by an idiot that I wouldn't want to take medical advice from.

Also, the term "weak genetic structure" is completely meaningless.
 
2014-04-17 07:54:35 AM
I've never taken them, but I have a friend who can't get through the day without them. Why? Because she's in a bad marriage to a man who doesn't help her with anything and overbearing in-laws who use money to control what she does with her kids. And speaking of the kids, they walk all over her, too. So, instead of facing these problems and trying to fix them, she downs antidepressants and biatch to anyone who will listen.

/I stopped listening a while ago
//she needs to grow a backbone
 
2014-04-17 07:55:34 AM

Jackson Herring: PunGent: I'm pretty wary of GMO foods, and I've never seen those studies...got any links?

ahh hahhahahahahahah


Hey now, there is serious concern when Venus is in the 7th house of Capricorn! There are studies showing it's bad for the baby!
 
2014-04-17 07:57:02 AM

Marcus Aurelius: If only there was some drug Jenny McCarthy could take to help her get past the shock of hearing about this study.


Does anyone know if she was on antidepressants while she was pregnant with the source of her encouraging women to endanger theirs and others children by not vaccinating?
 
2014-04-17 07:57:06 AM
Oddly the 80's are also about the time period it started to become frowned upon to deliver well deserved ass whoopings to brat asses.
 
2014-04-17 07:57:11 AM
Autumisum is caused in early fall.  The change of seasons can be difficult to comprehend in a young mind.
 
2014-04-17 07:57:16 AM

macdaddy357: Shrinks are quacks, and their pills are snake oil.


Very, very lucrative snake oil. Those BMWs and vacation homes won't buy themselves you know. Why do you hate America?
 
2014-04-17 07:57:58 AM

Delta1212: Marcus Aurelius: AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?

What's wrong with our medical system is what you really mean.

The USA is only one of two countries where pharma can advertise prescription drugs on TV.  That would be a good place to start.

It never occurred to me before just now how incredibly weird that actually is.


Ask your doctor if every drug you see on TV is right for you. The pharma rep will concur; hell, he's probably in the office right now.
 
2014-04-17 07:58:23 AM
Reminder, buy a dog. Preferably a corgi
 
2014-04-17 07:58:53 AM
SSRIs?
img3.wikia.nocookie.net
HAIL HYDRA!
 
2014-04-17 07:59:37 AM

Tricky Chicken: Does anyone know if she was on antidepressants while she was pregnant with the source of her encouraging women to endanger theirs and others children by not vaccinating?


Just plain ol' cocaine, AFAIK
 
2014-04-17 08:00:04 AM

JoieD'Zen: Lenny_da_Hog: JoieD'Zen: colinspooky: 407.9535% increase in antidepressant use since the 80s.

Asperger like posting detected.

Too many people find it easier to take pills and avoid the issues that create the need for them.

Autism is caused by an overload of toxins in an undeveloped child, imho, and according to many studies. Perhaps the mother is stressed and on meds, baby is fed tainted chinese formula and not breastfed, etc. The number of vaccines that are given these days are much more than my kids had, that may contribute to.

A study just a couple of weeks ago provided "clear and direct evidence" that autism begins in pregnancy as the cortical layers are forming -- likely in early pregnancy .

That melds pretty well with this study.

Several studies have been conducted on the dangers of GMO foods and the damage it does to human bodies and the DNA.  If a child is born with a weak genetic structure of predisposition it would be affected by any additional toxins.

/not a scientist


You could've left that last line out.  It was painfully obvious.
 
2014-04-17 08:00:36 AM
Messed up people have messed up kids.........
 
2014-04-17 08:00:51 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


Better a gram than a damn...

And besides, Corporations will soon take over human reproduction in fine clean factories.
 
2014-04-17 08:01:20 AM

Delta1212: Also, the term "weak genetic structure" is completely meaningless.


Not necessarily, isn't that one of the "known effects" of "miscegenation"?

/y'know, sort of the opposite of what really happens?
 
2014-04-17 08:01:33 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


Pussies.
Pussies everywhere ...
 
2014-04-17 08:02:34 AM
I went to a shrink a few years back for some counseling. Halfway through the first session -- before I'd even done their $250 evaluation test or really even gotten into what I saw as my "issues" -- the guy recommended that I get on antidepressants immediately. I didn't go back and haven't "sought help" since.

I -- like everyone else on Earth -- have things in my life that get me down, sometimes for extended periods. But I've never taken pills for it, and don't plan to. I do understand that, for some people, antidepressants make the difference between functioning and not functioning. But I also think they're frequently shoved at people for reasons other than their own good.

Where did we, as a culture, get this notion that we're never supposed to feel bad about anything?
 
2014-04-17 08:02:41 AM
rnatalie:
Almost every "attributable" issue with GMO can also happen with normal hybridization and other plant propagation methods

I don't think some people understand this.  We have been genetically modifying crops since the dawn of agriculture.  We're just doing it faster now.  Ever see what corn looked like before the native Americans figured out that they could plant the biggest, most desirable ones and get better results?
 
2014-04-17 08:05:35 AM

markfara: Halfway through the first session -- before I'd even done their $250 evaluation test or really even gotten into what I saw as my "issues" -- the guy recommended that I get on antidepressants immediately. I didn't go back and haven't "sought help" since.


I honestly don't believe anti-depressants should be prescribed without medical tests, first. The pills are meant to treat a physiological disorder- people suffering from depression have chemical imbalances in their brains that are persistent. We should confirm that this is the case, and  then medicate it, not just go, "Oh, you're sad? Have a pill. The more of these I prescribe, the more money the drug company will lavish on me when I take their next cruis- er, when I next attend a product training event."
 
2014-04-17 08:05:42 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.

Are they the cause of autism? I don't know. But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


As a guy that opted for cognitive behavioral therapy to treat work-related depression, I can say I've discussed this at-length with my therapist.  She has concluded that the simple fact that general practitioners can prescribe these drugs to anyone who comes in feeling "sad" or fills out a questionnaire that determines they're depressed.  Since it's easier to write a script and take a pill than to go in and talk to someone (which generally isn't covered by insurance), people opt for the route of meds.  The drugs were designed to be used in conjunction with talk therapy, and under the care of a psychiatrist and/or psychologist. When the patient is cleared of their issues, they would be weened off of them.  That simply is not happening because of how most people get on the drugs.

If there was a requirement that one had to see a mental health professional and be clinically diagnosed before getting meds, they would not be so widely prescribed.
 
2014-04-17 08:06:48 AM
I've been struck by just how many Farkers admit to taking antidepressants. I'm not against antidepressants or any other drug, for that matter, but it does seem like they might be overprescribed and used as mood elevators and enhancers rather than as treatments for actual medical conditions.


You think?
 
2014-04-17 08:06:48 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: But what is wrong with our society that so many people want to drug themselves up just to cope with living day to day?


People have been drugging themselves to "enhance" or cope since ancient times.  SSRIs may be new, but opium poppies certainly aren't.
 
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