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(Onion AV Club)   Though it seems impossible, Predator could have actually wound up being even worse than it actually was   (avclub.com) divider line 200
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2014-04-17 12:02:31 AM  
Since they still used some of the footage and it didn't make a difference, it probably ended up the same.

In 1986 the whole idea that your performance in a costume would be "just slighty above invisible" was probably difficult to understand for any actor, and extra difficult for JCVD.  I'm sure his ego got him fired, but I can understand it.
 
2014-04-17 12:14:44 AM  
Is subby implying Predator is a bad movie?
 
2014-04-17 12:27:07 AM  

fusillade762: Is subby implying Predator is a bad movie?


There seems to be an invasion of 20 year old subby's lately.  I'm worried they're going to try to put me in the Old Farker's Home.
 
2014-04-17 12:33:08 AM  
With JCVD in the red rubber suit, I have no doubt that Predator would have been a much different movie.   A comedy, perhaps.
 
2014-04-17 12:44:54 AM  
If subby bleeds we can kill it.
 
2014-04-17 01:14:44 AM  
OMG, that video is lulzy.
 
2014-04-17 01:39:29 AM  

Mentat: fusillade762: Is subby implying Predator is a bad movie?

There seems to be an invasion of 20 year old subby's lately.  I'm worried they're going to try to put me in the Old Farker's Home.



F*cking kids today.....no appreciation for the classics.

CSB:

I first watched it when I was 11 or 12.  My parents were going to a dinner party, and Dad thought my brother and I didn't need a babysitter that night, so our "sitter" was a rented copy of Predator on VHS, a pepperoni pizza, and a 2 liter bottle of Coke.

/Favorite Arnold movie.
//Still looks awesome, and it's amazing it came out in 1987, IMHO.
 
Skr
2014-04-17 04:55:28 AM  

fusillade762: Is subby implying Predator is a bad movie?


I'm guessing that using a headline that is contrary to popular opinion is in the greenlight bag o' tricks.

---

That pink abomination costume looked amazingly horrible- akin to something in a Mystery Science Theater episode. I get that something like that would be used for the  light warping inviso scenes but, wow just wow.
 
mhd
2014-04-17 05:10:47 AM  
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At least it wasn't bubble wrap.
 
2014-04-17 05:12:35 AM  
Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.
 
2014-04-17 05:14:11 AM  
May my favorite Rastafarian alien blow off subby's arms in the jungle.
 
2014-04-17 05:18:29 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


The good, the bad, and the ugly.
 
2014-04-17 05:20:03 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


Stop shaving.
www.jokerdesigns.com
You don't even have a beard.
 
2014-04-17 05:24:11 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


Well, Commando, obviously.

Especially the knife fight at the end.
 
2014-04-17 05:24:34 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


The Man Who Would Be King.
 
2014-04-17 05:28:07 AM  

MayoSlather: The good, the bad, and the ugly.


Not enough bulging biceps.

farkingismybusiness: Stop shaving.
www.jokerdesigns.com
You don't even have a beard.


Dry shaving is for real men only.

/so is breaking the razor on your farking manly face.
//holy shiat I love this movie
 
2014-04-17 05:28:13 AM  
 
2014-04-17 05:43:58 AM  

Sinbox: The Man Who Would Be King.


And how many big pussy jokes are in this one?
 
2014-04-17 05:46:40 AM  

Sinbox: Or: Gunga Din
Or: The Wild Bunch


Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep
 
2014-04-17 05:46:41 AM  

Sinbox: Or: Gunga Din
Or: The Wild Bunch


Uh huh. And does a man stab a scorpion off another man's shoulder point blank with a Crain LS-1 tactical knife in these flicks?

I think not.
 
2014-04-17 05:46:50 AM  
I remember Arsenio Hall, on his old late night talk show, talking about the Predator 2 trailer.  He's apparently not watched the first one, but at the first glimpse of 'dreadlocks' on the Predator, he's all 'It looks like Vanilli!  It looks like Vanilli!'

He loved to pick on Milli Vanilli well before it was discovered they didn't sing their own songs.
 
2014-04-17 05:48:54 AM  
 
2014-04-17 05:55:07 AM  

Sinbox: or: The Wages of Fear
or: The Dirty Dozen
or: The Seven Samurai
or: Extreme Prejudice
or: The Great Escape
or: Hard Boiled

or:
or:
or:
or:
or:


None of them have the single greatest anti-menstrual line in the history of utopian manliness:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it."
 
2014-04-17 06:02:41 AM  

docmattic: Sinbox: Or: Gunga Din
Or: The Wild Bunch

Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep


Speaking as a (chronologically) well-into-adulthood member of the male species, I've been provoked to tears by a large number of films over my movie-viewing life.

The most recent time was Alexander Payne's The Descendents.
But also the end of The Killing Fields.
Grave of the Fireflies

The documentary The Devil Came on Horseback
The documentary Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father
Tim Roth's directorial feature debut The War Zone
Gary Oldman's directorial feature debut Nil By Mouth
The documentary Shoah. (Hell, just about anything having to do any and all holocausts (both capital and lower-case h's)
The dodumentary Paragraph 175

/one day I will see Field of Dreams. I just don't think I'm prepared for it yet.
 
2014-04-17 06:03:48 AM  

docmattic: Sinbox: Or: Gunga Din
Or: The Wild Bunch

Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep


Pussy, typical Kevin Costner movie. Too drawn out.
 
2014-04-17 06:03:54 AM  

docmattic: Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep



Please. I weep over Mac's tribute to Blaine nightly.
 
2014-04-17 06:07:46 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-17 06:08:31 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.

Well, Commando, obviously.

Especially the knife fight at the end.


This.
 
2014-04-17 06:09:26 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-17 06:16:35 AM  
Not to mention anything involving deaths of dogs.

Yeah, everybody knows of your Turner + Hooch and your Old Yeller and your Marley + Me

but they all pale before the tear-inducing power of Red

Brian Cox puts on a master class of how to play deeply damaged and quietly vengeful
 
2014-04-17 06:43:46 AM  

docmattic: Sinbox: Or: Gunga Din
Or: The Wild Bunch

Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep

1.bp.blogspot.com
 Bunch of slack-jawed fa&&ots around here. This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me!
/Field of Dreams is great, but it doesn't make me want to blow shiat up.
 
2014-04-17 06:44:32 AM  

Sinbox: or: The Wages of Fear
or: The Dirty Dozen
or: The Seven Samurai
or: Extreme Prejudice
or: The Great Escape
or: Hard Boiled

docmattic:

Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep


It seems we need some criteria for manly movies...

You have to eliminate any movie not based on an American, or someone like Arnold pretending to be. It's widely accepted that foreigners are pussies, with an exception maybe given to Ivan Drago, but let's face it he still lost to Rocky.

Second, a valid manly movie must be widely repulsed by women, even butch lesbians. It must be so fueled by testosterone it makes any woman with a hint of self respect declare it offensive and nearly unwatchable, yet she is still inexplicably attracted to the lead actor.
 
2014-04-17 06:48:15 AM  

Sinbox: Not to mention anything involving deaths of dogs.

Yeah, everybody knows of your Turner + Hooch and your Old Yeller and your Marley + Me

but they all pale before the tear-inducing power of Red

Brian Cox puts on a master class of how to play deeply damaged and quietly vengeful


The little girl in The Patriot sobbing for her papa to come back gets me every time.

If you don't cry in the flashback scene in Toy Story 2, you're not human.
 
2014-04-17 07:04:19 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


The Godfather.
Hands down
 
2014-04-17 07:08:05 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.

Stop shaving.
[www.jokerdesigns.com image 349x207]
You don't even have a beard.


I do the same thing. I hate feeling stubble. I'm OCD about it.
 
2014-04-17 07:08:49 AM  

MayoSlather: Sinbox: or: The Wages of Fear
or: The Dirty Dozen
or: The Seven Samurai
or: Extreme Prejudice
or: The Great Escape
or: Hard Boiled

docmattic:

Field of Dreams

/not macho like Predator, but nevertheless masculine
//show me another film that can make grown men weep

It seems we need some criteria for manly movies...

You have to eliminate any movie not based on an American, or someone like Arnold pretending to be. It's widely accepted that foreigners are pussies, with an exception maybe given to Ivan Drago, but let's face it he still lost to Rocky.

Second, a valid manly movie must be widely repulsed by women, even butch lesbians. It must be so fueled by testosterone it makes any woman with a hint of self respect declare it offensive and nearly unwatchable, yet she is still inexplicably attracted to the lead actor.



To qualify for consideration as the most manly movie, a movie must feature a minimum of two future governors.


/counterexample for your first point: Das Boot
 
2014-04-17 07:30:49 AM  
MayoSlather:

It seems we need some criteria for manly movies...

You have to eliminate any movie not based on an American, or someone like Arnold pretending to be. It's widely accepted that foreigners are pussies, with an exception maybe given to Ivan Drago, but let's face it he still lost to Rocky.

Second, a valid manly movie must be widely repulsed by women, even butch lesbians. It must be so fueled by testosterone it makes any woman with a hint of self respect declare it offensive and nearly unwatchable, yet she is still inexplicably attracted to the lead actor.


www.worstmoviesevermade.com

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-17 07:32:31 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: /counterexample for your first point: Das Boot


Nah.  Das Boot is one of my favorite films, and is perhaps the second-most realistic submarine film ever made*, but it's not necessarily a "manly" film.  In fact, the manly elements like drinking, whoring, and blowing up the enemy are shown to be wrong.  Like that shiat could ever be wrong.

*I have it on good authority (ie., actually submariners from the US Navy) that the most realistic submarine movie ever made is Down Periscope with Kelsey Grammar.  Just think about that for a moment.
 
2014-04-17 07:32:31 AM  

Ishkur: Sinbox: or: The Wages of Fear
or: The Dirty Dozen
or: The Seven Samurai
or: Extreme Prejudice
or: The Great Escape
or: Hard Boiled

or:
or:
or:
or:
or:

None of them have the single greatest anti-menstrual line in the history of utopian manliness:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it."


Or one of the most quoted lines ever:

"Get to the choppa!"
 
2014-04-17 07:32:45 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


Cool Hand Luke.
 
2014-04-17 07:34:05 AM  

docmattic: //show me another film that can make grown men weep


Go watch "The Earthling" and get back to me, tough guy
 
2014-04-17 07:34:48 AM  
'Spartans!  Tonight we Dine in Hell!'
 
2014-04-17 07:35:59 AM  

Cymbal: Ishkur: Sinbox: or: The Wages of Fear
or: The Dirty Dozen
or: The Seven Samurai
or: Extreme Prejudice
or: The Great Escape
or: Hard Boiled

or:
or:
or:
or:
or:

None of them have the single greatest anti-menstrual line in the history of utopian manliness:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it."

Or one of the most quoted lines ever:

"Get to the choppa!"


This is a long one, but it's one of my favorite parts of the movie:

www.avpgalaxy.net

When I was little, we found a man. He looked like - like, butchered. The old woman in the village crossed themselves... and whispered crazy things, strange things. "El Diablo cazador trofeo de los hombres." Only in the hottest years this happens. And this year, it grows hot. We begin finding our men. We found them sometimes without their skins... and sometimes much, much worse. "El Diablo cazador trofeo de los hombres" means the demon who makes trophies of men.


Even the chick in that film has manly lines.
 
2014-04-17 07:37:07 AM  
I liked the Robert Rodriguez film Predators, btw.  It brought the franchise back to its roots.
 
2014-04-17 07:37:44 AM  

Ishkur: Predator is by far the manliest movie ever made.

I challenge anyone to find me a manlier movie than Predator.


Top Gun!

Lots of man on man manliness there.
 
2014-04-17 07:39:53 AM  
predator is a great 80s action film because it hasn't aged at all.  lots of 80s and 90s action flicks seem a little cheesy these days, but since predator took place entirely in the jungle it thankfully lacks some of the more obviously-dated memes from the 80s (fashion, hair, etc).  its fast-paced and intense and the special effects are still pretty impressive.  the makeup effects for the predator itself are still amazing and utterly realistic in my opinion.
 
2014-04-17 07:52:58 AM  

dittybopper: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: /counterexample for your first point: Das Boot

Nah.  Das Boot is one of my favorite films, and is perhaps the second-most realistic submarine film ever made*, but it's not necessarily a "manly" film.  In fact, the manly elements like drinking, whoring, and blowing up the enemy are shown to be wrong.  Like that shiat could ever be wrong.



I don't know, man...that movie looks like my armpit smells. But okay, how about, uh... Mad Max? Seven Samurai?
 
2014-04-17 08:03:18 AM  

enderthexenocide: predator is a great 80s action film because it hasn't aged at all.  lots of 80s and 90s action flicks seem a little cheesy these days, but since predator took place entirely in the jungle it thankfully lacks some of the more obviously-dated memes from the 80s (fashion, hair, etc).  its fast-paced and intense and the special effects are still pretty impressive.  the makeup effects for the predator itself are still amazing and utterly realistic in my opinion.



It's like Robocop and whatever I read about Detroit these days. The film seems so prescient.

I hope some evil corporation into bodily experimentation uses the film as a blueprint soon.
 
2014-04-17 08:04:11 AM  

LZeitgeist: MayoSlather:

It seems we need some criteria for manly movies...

You have to eliminate any movie not based on an American, or someone like Arnold pretending to be. It's widely accepted that foreigners are pussies, with an exception maybe given to Ivan Drago, but let's face it he still lost to Rocky.

Second, a valid manly movie must be widely repulsed by women, even butch lesbians. It must be so fueled by testosterone it makes any woman with a hint of self respect declare it offensive and nearly unwatchable, yet she is still inexplicably attracted to the lead actor.

[www.worstmoviesevermade.com image 580x326]

[img.fark.net image 528x267]


I almost bought one of the bikes from that movie.
 
2014-04-17 08:04:26 AM  

enderthexenocide: predator is a great 80s action film because it hasn't aged at all.  lots of 80s and 90s action flicks seem a little cheesy these days, but since predator took place entirely in the jungle it thankfully lacks some of the more obviously-dated memes from the 80s (fashion, hair, etc).  its fast-paced and intense and the special effects are still pretty impressive.  the makeup effects for the predator itself are still amazing and utterly realistic in my opinion.


Yep.  The sequel, Predator 2, suffers in comparison to some degree because it's very much a product of the year it was released, 1990.

It also suffers from other flaws, but it's another film that I enjoy.  Not as good as Predator or Predators, but fun in it's own way.

Plus:  Tittays.
Minus:  Bill Paxton's character.
 
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