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2014-04-16 11:39:58 PM  

jso2897: dpzum1: marius2: dpzum1: marius2: dpzum1: Assholes, all of you...

Seriously.

Thanks. I know this is Fark, and I know what Fark is. But sometimes...

I had the same reaction. It wasn't as if this kid was accepted into law school, he was accepted into college, he was given a chance to make a career for himself when he was doubted all his life. This wasn't a prestigious college, but people still want to give him shiat rather than saying "it's good that we're finally realizing that people may be more intelligent than they appear and that people with disabilities should be given equal chances." No one is handing him a diploma, but they're offering him a chance. I know plenty of intelligent people who had that chance and chose to get drunk instead. I don't understand how people can be so angry about him getting a shot.

Good point. I know of many who have had incredible opportunities only to piss them away. The real problem I have with this thread in general is the fact that so many chose to condemn someone, and make fun of someone, who didn't choose, or wasn't the cause of their so-called disability. I know more people who are considered "normal" whom I would rather not associate with.

Chances are this kid will make more of his life than the bitter failures pissing on him here have made of theirs


Right. So, as I have said before, I know what Fark is, and I am totally comfortable playing along. That being said, I'm totally comforted in knowing that there are some of us who still appreciate good old fashioned humor.
 
2014-04-16 11:41:52 PM  

emersonbiggins: Enuratique: I know it's low hanging fruit to make the joke that colleges will accept just about anybody these days, but did none of you actually RTFA? He got accepted into a special program for people with learning disabilities.

To be fair, most colleges have poli-sci programs


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Ba dum tsss
 
2014-04-16 11:43:57 PM  
Wow, a video of Rob Ford's Mayoral acceptance speech. Thanks Fark!
 
2014-04-16 11:45:54 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Now he'll learn the mathematical equation for Potato.


I can volume for potato!
 
2014-04-16 11:50:30 PM  

Gyrfalcon: marius2: dpzum1: marius2: dpzum1: Assholes, all of you...

Seriously.

Thanks. I know this is Fark, and I know what Fark is. But sometimes...

I had the same reaction. It wasn't as if this kid was accepted into law school, he was accepted into college, he was given a chance to make a career for himself when he was doubted all his life. This wasn't a prestigious college, but people still want to give him shiat rather than saying "it's good that we're finally realizing that people may be more intelligent than they appear and that people with disabilities should be given equal chances." No one is handing him a diploma, but they're offering him a chance. I know plenty of intelligent people who had that chance and chose to get drunk instead. I don't understand how people can be so angry about him getting a shot.

Because THIS.....IS....FARK!!!! And also the last place a person can hate on retards and still feel good about themselves for doing so.



Seems like a bit of a reach -- I don't see anyone upthread saying "I hate this person!!!" (or equivalent).  Granted, I didn't read every word & may have missed something particularly egregious, but that's definitely not the overall thrust of the discussion.
 
2014-04-16 11:51:07 PM  

marius2: dpzum1:


You're a good person, tfarks for you.


And I thank you in return!
 
2014-04-16 11:56:12 PM  
I'm getting pretty sick of these "look how great it is that someone clearly not normal had something normal happen for them" articles and videos. It's not news or feel-good entertainment when a person with Down's Syndrome goes to prom, or scores a touchdown, or gets accepted to a special ed program at a college. The fact that it's treated like a miracle is pretty damn patronizing.
 
2014-04-16 11:58:16 PM  

jshine: Gyrfalcon: marius2: dpzum1: marius2: dpzum1: Assholes, all of you...

Seriously.

Thanks. I know this is Fark, and I know what Fark is. But sometimes...

I had the same reaction. It wasn't as if this kid was accepted into law school, he was accepted into college, he was given a chance to make a career for himself when he was doubted all his life. This wasn't a prestigious college, but people still want to give him shiat rather than saying "it's good that we're finally realizing that people may be more intelligent than they appear and that people with disabilities should be given equal chances." No one is handing him a diploma, but they're offering him a chance. I know plenty of intelligent people who had that chance and chose to get drunk instead. I don't understand how people can be so angry about him getting a shot.

Because THIS.....IS....FARK!!!! And also the last place a person can hate on retards and still feel good about themselves for doing so.


Seems like a bit of a reach -- I don't see anyone upthread saying "I hate this person!!!" (or equivalent).  Granted, I didn't read every word & may have missed something particularly egregious, but that's definitely not the overall thrust of the discussion.


You should read every word. And RTFA. The overall thrust of the the discussion is "how can we make fun of the retard"....

Really?
 
2014-04-17 12:02:55 AM  
My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.
 
2014-04-17 12:03:58 AM  
I have a chest cold right now and this thread have me choking and coughing up mucus all over this keyboard
 
2014-04-17 12:06:39 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Now he'll learn the mathematical equation for Potato.


I highly doubt if he'll major in any of the STEM disciplines....
 
2014-04-17 12:07:53 AM  

NobleHam: I'm getting pretty sick of these "look how great it is that someone clearly not normal had something normal happen for them" articles and videos. It's not news or feel-good entertainment when a person with Down's Syndrome goes to prom, or scores a touchdown, or gets accepted to a special ed program at a college. The fact that it's treated like a miracle is pretty damn patronizing.


It's a miracle when those who are considered "different" with regard to apparent mental capacity (and this reaches FAR beyond this context) are treated with the same respect and dignity as those who are considered "normal'.
 
2014-04-17 12:08:13 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Now he'll learn the mathematical equation for Potato.


...and read the great works of philosophy, like Platato.
 
2014-04-17 12:09:32 AM  
No, really. All joking aside, it's fantastic that the college didn't turn him     Down.
 
2014-04-17 12:10:41 AM  

Circusdog320: My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.


You will always have a friend in me.
 
2014-04-17 12:12:52 AM  

dpzum1: Circusdog320: My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.

You will always have a friend in me.


Thanks!
 
2014-04-17 12:15:27 AM  
dpzum1:

No shiat.

Also Downs syndrome is incredibly variable.  Everything from minor physical manifestations to profound. And from normal intelligence to profoundly retarded. You can have kids that 'sound and look retarded' because of physical and peripheral nervous system detects yet are normal intelligence.
 
2014-04-17 12:26:52 AM  
topcon: Just FYI: UF is called a "public ivy." Not an easy school to get into and has some very well regarded programs.


this morning i woke up feeling all depressed about life and then i went on fark and saw some guy rationalizing UF and suddenly my life doesn't seem so empty by comparison.
 
2014-04-17 12:28:15 AM  
 People with Down Syndrome can actually be high functioning even though they talk funny.
 
2014-04-17 12:33:07 AM  

Vance Uppercut: People with Down Syndrome can actually be high functioning even though they talk funny.


Pretty sure DEVO wrote a song about it.
 
2014-04-17 12:37:59 AM  

gibbon1: dpzum1:

No shiat.

Also Downs syndrome is incredibly variable.  Everything from minor physical manifestations to profound. And from normal intelligence to profoundly retarded. You can have kids that 'sound and look retarded' because of physical and peripheral nervous system detects yet are normal intelligence.


Yes, it has a wide range of symptoms varying in intensity and severity. And what I'm really interested in finding out is what, if any, commonality is shared among the mildly affected compared to those who seem to be mildly affected. There are so many factors such as diet, environment, parental drug use, etc...not to mention vaccinations.
I know, that's a touchy subject, but I believe it's something that warrants further research and we all know who would rather avoid said research.

Just sayin...
 
2014-04-17 12:48:10 AM  

pup.socket: I don't get all the hate, even on fark. Good luck to the kid.


Who sez it's hate (besides you and a few other snowflakes)? So he got accepted into a college. Is that supposed to make him special?

Well, okay,. He IS "special", but.......
 
2014-04-17 12:48:18 AM  
Patton Oswalt has the downs?
 
2014-04-17 12:54:05 AM  
Is he the first member of the Down family to go to college?
 
2014-04-17 12:58:07 AM  

zobear: marius2: dpzum1: Assholes, all of you...

Seriously.

Seriously x2

As a parent watching zobear jr., in the last few weeks get: accepted to her backup (she didn't want to go there, really), rejected from her 3rd choice (accepted to the university but not the program), rejected from her 2nd choice, no response from her 4th, and finally accepted to her 1st choice (program and university), I got a little verklempt.

Good on him!


Congratulations.

Give your bank account my sympathies.
 
2014-04-17 12:58:23 AM  

dpzum1: NobleHam: I'm getting pretty sick of these "look how great it is that someone clearly not normal had something normal happen for them" articles and videos. It's not news or feel-good entertainment when a person with Down's Syndrome goes to prom, or scores a touchdown, or gets accepted to a special ed program at a college. The fact that it's treated like a miracle is pretty damn patronizing.

It's a miracle when those who are considered "different" with regard to apparent mental capacity (and this reaches FAR beyond this context) are treated with the same respect and dignity as those who are considered "normal'.


As far as things typically go on Fark, you've just made a strong argument for carrying on with the jokes and mocking then.
 
2014-04-17 12:58:39 AM  
Oh, please.  It's not like he's the first kid with DS to go to college.
 
2014-04-17 01:00:39 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: TV's Vinnie: Now he'll learn the mathematical equation for Potato.

I highly doubt if he'll major in any of the STEM disciplines....


True. Those programs only accept the socially retarded...
 
2014-04-17 01:00:53 AM  
oh wow must be a computer science major
/computer science major
 
2014-04-17 01:19:03 AM  

Circusdog320: My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.


I'm currently 7 months pregnant with a daughter who will have Ds. I'm glad I read your comment. I was getting really upset at some of the other posts, but yours and the way you handled the rudeness and insensitivity was commendable. Thank you for sharing about your son.
 
2014-04-17 01:19:11 AM  
I remember being in a communications class in college. We had one student that was what some here would call retarded, others would call mentally handicapped, and yet others would call "exceptional."

That man worked harder than anyone else in the class. His options were limited, but he reveled in his education unlike so many of the beer swilling guys or junk seeking girls I knew. His motivations for education, I found after spending quite a bit of time getting to know him, were truly inspiring.

Later, I spent quite a lot of time working with special education students in high school. Many had limited prospects, but nearly all of them were delighted to have the opportunity to learn, and took it seriously. Other students, for the most part, were put to shame regarding attendance and passion for learning.

There were emotionally disturbed students that had their own things to wrestle with, but for the rest of the students I worked with, they dealt with adversity and challenge with a passion other students didn't have in their pinky..

Many of these comments are shameful in this forum. Whether you feel there's dust in the envelope or not, give a man his due.

While education isn't the ivory tower of years past, it's an opportunity for those that want to learn. Learning, in its own right, is a noble goal. In going to school, and passionately pursuing education, that guy will earn something no one can take away from him... knowledge.
 
2014-04-17 01:21:12 AM  

NobleHam: I'm getting pretty sick of these "look how great it is that someone clearly not normal had something normal happen for them" articles and videos. It's not news or feel-good entertainment when a person with Down's Syndrome goes to prom, or scores a touchdown, or gets accepted to a special ed program at a college. The fact that it's treated like a miracle is pretty damn patronizing.


just look at the comments in this thread. people like him are going to need all the help they can get.
 
2014-04-17 01:29:19 AM  
I enjoyed the story and I applaud both the school and the young man for a job well done. I know that this is Fark and understand that any story linked is open to any subscribers comments. Personally, I wasn't moved to tears by this story, but I did feel that it was posted as more of an inspirational bit than a "how much fun can we make of person born less fortunate than me and my family"
Funny is funny, and ignorant cruelty is just that. After reading the comments, I have to say that some of you have let me Down.
 
2014-04-17 01:31:21 AM  

Circusdog320: My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.


A friend in me too, and God (or whatever you hold dear) love you for giving him a chance to show that to the world.
 
2014-04-17 01:33:54 AM  
Tommyymmot:

I believe education is its own reward. Learning is a struggle, just as exercise or discipline. Many people do not have the courage to face their own limitations. Fewer still engage their limitations daily like a number of students I have had ranging from those with Asperger's syndrome to those with extreme low cognitive function. I don't know a parent that doesn't celebrate with their child when that child gets into college. While I do know many students whose parents didn't think the college their child got into was prestigious enough, none of them disparaged their child's desire to learn.

The problem today with education is manifold upon society.

Still, this man deserves a congratulations without bite or cynicism.

I'm sorry you were filled with something other than delight or hope for the future.
 
2014-04-17 01:38:28 AM  

NobleHam: I'm getting pretty sick of these "look how great it is that someone clearly not normal had something normal happen for them" articles and videos. It's not news or feel-good entertainment when a person with Down's Syndrome goes to prom, or scores a touchdown, or gets accepted to a special ed program at a college. The fact that it's treated like a miracle is pretty damn patronizing.


Your idea of normal is patronizing.

Is your proposition that we should feel good when someone with "everything" makes it to prom, or that when someone pulls themselves up by their boot straps we should be inspired?

Or is your position that we shouldn't celebrate success or accomplishment?

As a father, I cannot imagine delighting in anything more than the success of my children, no matter how advanced or limited they are. What's emotionally inspiring is that someone outside of myself has moved in a direction that will cause them not only joy, but personal growth.

You see what he did as a miracle. Many of us see it as hard work, worth celebrating.
 
2014-04-17 01:41:30 AM  
Marius 2:
I had the same reaction. It wasn't as if this kid was accepted into law school, he was accepted into college, he was given a chance to make a career for himself when he was doubted all his life. This wasn't a prestigious college, but people still want to give him shiat rather than saying "it's good that we're finally realizing that people may be more intelligent than they appear and that people with disabilities should be given equal chances." No one is handing him a diploma, but they're offering him a chance. I know plenty of intelligent people who had that chance and chose to get drunk instead. I don't understand how people can be so angry about him getting a shot.


I'd only correct to say "...angry about him earning a shot," instead of getting one.

Even if the state school must accept in-state applicants, there's an army of students behind him that didn't get that far.
 
2014-04-17 01:45:30 AM  
LemScroob:

So it will major in 'Do you want an apple pie with that?' and minor in 'Communications'

What is the graduate program, 'Memorizing all the Bus Stops'?


Your jokes are not funny. They are not appreciated. Your comments are sad. Not for him, or for us, but for you.
 
2014-04-17 01:50:08 AM  
Forbidden Doughnut:

I highly doubt if he'll major in any of the STEM disciplines....


You'd be surprised the percentage of individuals with cognitive "disabilities" excel at math and science. Especially individuals with Asperger's syndrome.

I understand you were talking about this guy in particular, but it reveals a generalization I think is misinformed.
 
2014-04-17 01:52:28 AM  
Dunno about dust, but apparently there was a whole lot of sand...
 
2014-04-17 01:54:32 AM  

FarkingStan: LemScroob:

So it will major in 'Do you want an apple pie with that?' and minor in 'Communications'

What is the graduate program, 'Memorizing all the Bus Stops'?


Your jokes are not funny. They are not appreciated. Your comments are sad. Not for him, or for us, but for you.


no they are sad for me too. You know, that icky feeling you get when you are part of an internet community and people start posting racial slurs and gay jokes?
 
2014-04-17 01:59:28 AM  
There's role playing Trolls, and then there's the truly ignorant, or at the very least, 13-16 year olds that get their daddy's credit card so they can have a grown-up account on fark, for example.

Then, of course, there are those that haven't grown past those years we could forgive a certain amount of ignorance and selfishness.

Fark generally has a lot of Column A, and, unfortunately, a solid amount of column C. I'm hoping most of this is column B, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
2014-04-17 02:00:08 AM  

FarkingStan: Tommyymmot:

I believe education is its own reward. Learning is a struggle, just as exercise or discipline. Many people do not have the courage to face their own limitations. Fewer still engage their limitations daily like a number of students I have had ranging from those with Asperger's syndrome to those with extreme low cognitive function. I don't know a parent that doesn't celebrate with their child when that child gets into college. While I do know many students whose parents didn't think the college their child got into was prestigious enough, none of them disparaged their child's desire to learn.

The problem today with education is manifold upon society.

Still, this man deserves a congratulations without bite or cynicism.

I'm sorry you were filled with something other than delight or hope for the future.


 No, as I approach retirement age, I look back and know my degree served me quite well,  opening doors for me left, and right.
I'm living pretty damned nice these days.
However, I got my degree over 30 years ago, and right now I just feel like that accreditation  has been cheapened.
 
2014-04-17 02:09:54 AM  
Tommyymmot:

"Yes, I want him to represent me in court, do my taxes, or possibly operate on my eyes."

Bitterness and a straw man attack.

"You go kid, and I wish you well but currently a BA is the equivalent of a high school diploma of 30 years ago."

This is the natural evolution of a society where education is commonplace and offered to everyone. High school diplomas aren't valuable by themselves like they were not because of an intrinsic lowering of the bar, but of an overall raising of the bar wherein the old system couldn't support the new one.

"High schools are graduating the functionally illiterate these days, and employers want to see a degree just to give you a job as a lousy desk clerk for the simple reason they want make sure that you can read, and understand basic math. "

Entrance exams to all colleges require more than functioning reading and mathematical skills. The proliferation of education does not provide for an illiterate society. Testing to read and accomplish basic math is simple. Signaling an ability to devote four years in a stressful and challenging environment is what employers are looking for. While that is no longer enough to ensure a good paycheck, and is becoming the foundation to employment, there is good evidence that creativity and critical thinking, along with the ability to overcome despite adversity is what employers are looking for.

"Yeah, it got dusty all right, but only when I realized how much my degree is actually worth these days.
I'm glad I'm getting old."

You're part of a lucky old guard. Things are harder now. Don't take that out cynically on this guy, be happy for him
 
2014-04-17 02:20:15 AM  

FarkingStan: Tommyymmot:

"Yes, I want him to represent me in court, do my taxes, or possibly operate on my eyes."

Bitterness and a straw man attack.

"You go kid, and I wish you well but currently a BA is the equivalent of a high school diploma of 30 years ago."

This is the natural evolution of a society where education is commonplace and offered to everyone. High school diplomas aren't valuable by themselves like they were not because of an intrinsic lowering of the bar, but of an overall raising of the bar wherein the old system couldn't support the new one.

"High schools are graduating the functionally illiterate these days, and employers want to see a degree just to give you a job as a lousy desk clerk for the simple reason they want make sure that you can read, and understand basic math. "

Entrance exams to all colleges require more than functioning reading and mathematical skills. The proliferation of education does not provide for an illiterate society. Testing to read and accomplish basic math is simple. Signaling an ability to devote four years in a stressful and challenging environment is what employers are looking for. While that is no longer enough to ensure a good paycheck, and is becoming the foundation to employment, there is good evidence that creativity and critical thinking, along with the ability to overcome despite adversity is what employers are looking for.

"Yeah, it got dusty all right, but only when I realized how much my degree is actually worth these days.
I'm glad I'm getting old."

You're part of a lucky old guard. Things are harder now. Don't take that out cynically on this guy, be happy for him


You nailed it. The comments in this thread smacks of a conversation I had with my Swiss aunt who felt that people should be screened out of being able to attend college at a young age, and instead be made to attend trade schools to learn how to work with their hands as this would be the only way they would be of use to a society. I dont think people like Tommy really care about what education is today versus what it was when they were in school. Instead its some twisted form of victim hood where one feels they need to demean the accomplishments of others in order to feel better about their own
 
2014-04-17 02:22:08 AM  
....or just being a hater, as the younger generation would say
 
2014-04-17 02:34:29 AM  
Doem:

Trades, philosophy, and everything in between are in constant flux for value. There's no perfect system, but I appreciate Germany's which does track. I'm in favor of always having a way to jump tracks along the way, but a healthy society realizes the importance of all jobs, and that tenacity and learning are very, very valuable.
 
2014-04-17 03:57:08 AM  
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2014-04-17 04:01:28 AM  

Circusdog320: My son has Down Syndrome
He is 25 and lives at home with us.

He doesn't care about the color of your skin, where you're from or who you choose to love. If you're kind to him he is kind to you in return. He is a shining example of what is good in this world and how we should all treat one another. I  strive to be more like him in this regard and I often fail  to live up to these standards for which it seems comes naturally for him. People with Down Syndrome and other disabilities ARE people, they feel, they laugh and they are hurt by cruel insensitive comments and rude remarks.

All of you have a good night.


Why did you have to post here and shiat on everyone's parade??

Seriously...you are an awesome dad.

I grew up with a "special ed" kid named Ernie who suffered seizures when he was a baby that left him permanently brain-damaged. He went through a lot of shiat while growing up because of his very obvious handicap (to this day, he still talks with a lisp and drools).

I had a friend who used to make fun of Ernie...we sometimes got into arguments over it. Years later, she gave birth to a daughter with a severe case of cerebral palsy. Said daughter spent her entire life in a wheelchair, drooling and unable to talk. She died nearly 5 years ago. Former Friend once told me that she thought her daughter was god's punishment for making fun of Ernie.

There were a couple of gang members who lived down the block from Ernie and kinda sorta adopted him as their kid brother...no one picked on him when he got to high school, but there were still a few kids who tried to take advantage of his friendly and trusting nature.

Ernie and I graduated from high school together. He didn't go to college, but he's worked as a part-time janitor for various companies over the years. He currently lives with one of his sisters and her family.

I last saw Ernie at a funeral a little over 3 years ago. He's still the same sweet, friendly person he always was. He's now 52, but looks like he's in his 30s. I'm jealous. :)
 
2014-04-17 04:36:16 AM  
I was skeptical at first, but after reading into it, the college has three tracks: "college experience," certifications, and degrees. So it appears accredited.

And then the more I thought about it, the better I thought it is. Let the Wal-Mart greeters be retirees, and people like this teen be able to get out into life, socialized and educated, and be as productive as possible.

That's what we as a society want, right?

And maybe, just maybe, this will light a fire under the asses of the "normal" teenage wastes the system is churning out now as they see they're getting smoked by determined people such as Noah.
 
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