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(The Verge)   Google creates Google reader good enough to solve Google CAPTCHAs. Your move, Google   (theverge.com) divider line 33
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2014-04-16 06:36:23 PM
And so ancient the philosophical debate rages on: Can Google create a CAPTCHA so strong that even Google can't crack it?
 
2014-04-16 06:41:03 PM
"Thanks to this research, we know that relying on distorted text alone isn't enough,"

Great. So now they're going to get even harder to read?
 
2014-04-16 07:01:01 PM
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These aren't even human solveable.
 
2014-04-16 07:11:57 PM

Gig103: [cdn0.vox-cdn.com image 448x197]

These aren't even human solveable.


Sometimes I think I might be a replicant because I have a hard time solving those sometimes.
 
2014-04-16 07:12:49 PM

Gig103: [cdn0.vox-cdn.com image 448x197]

These aren't even human solveable.


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2014-04-16 07:24:34 PM
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2014-04-16 07:27:29 PM
Corvus: Sometimes I think I might be a replicant because I have a hard time solving those sometimes.

Ayup. I have 20/20 eyesight and at least half the time I have to refresh a Captcha before I can tell what the fark it's supposed to be.

/has seen things you people wouldn't believe
/moments lost in time
/tears in rain
 
2014-04-16 07:46:37 PM
99.8 percent accuracy

Hell, I don't even have that with captcha.
 
2014-04-16 08:02:32 PM
Computer now better at task designed for humans to be better at than computers.  Woops.  I, for one, welcome our new captcha solving overlords?
 
2014-04-16 08:06:57 PM
I saw Google reader in the headline and got my hopes up.

Bring back Google Reader!
 
2014-04-16 08:23:06 PM
April 16, 2014 Googlenet goes online. It begins spamming at an exponential date. Garbage Day.
 
2014-04-16 08:24:19 PM
99.8%? I'm averaging about 0.2% on those things. They have gotten beyond ridiculous.
 
2014-04-16 08:30:09 PM

Mytch: Computer now better at task designed for humans to be better at than computers.  Woops.  I, for one, welcome our new captcha solving overlords?


It's always been a computer task forced on humans, just until now the computers weren't that good at them.
 
2014-04-16 08:36:20 PM
So it's a reader that probably has access to the set of capchas that Google has and does a match?  Call me when it can solve capchas that are not Google's.
 
2014-04-16 08:45:43 PM

NeoCortex42: I saw Google reader in the headline and got my hopes up.

Bring back Google Reader!



Came here to say exactly this.
 
2014-04-16 08:45:54 PM

NeoCortex42: I saw Google reader in the headline and got my hopes up.

Bring back Google Reader!


Same here.  The farkers.
 
2014-04-16 09:19:20 PM

Gunther: Corvus: Sometimes I think I might be a replicant because I have a hard time solving those sometimes.

Ayup. I have 20/20 eyesight and at least half the time I have to refresh a Captcha before I can tell what the fark it's supposed to be.

/has seen things you people wouldn't believe
/moments lost in time
/tears in rain


I'm a bit myopic so it can be pretty annoying solving some of the CAPTCHAs I've encountered.  It usually takes a few refresh attempts before I can find one that's actually legible enough to decipher.

//attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion
//watched c-beams glitter in the dark
 
2014-04-16 09:27:19 PM
I miss Google reader

//still have not found a suitable replacement

///fark captcha
 
2014-04-16 09:32:44 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: I miss Google reader

//still have not found a suitable replacement

///fark captcha


I ended up switching to Feedly. It's not a perfect substitute, but it's good enough, I guess.
 
2014-04-16 09:36:59 PM

Corvus: Gig103: [cdn0.vox-cdn.com image 448x197]

These aren't even human solveable.

Sometimes I think I might be a replicant because I have a hard time solving those sometimes.


Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your mother.
 
2014-04-16 09:45:18 PM
The new system was developed to help Google automatically analyze hard-to-read signs and house numbers photographed by its Street View cameras, allowing it to accurately match images with locations on a map.

Yes, maps... It wasn't at all developed to allow the Google webcrawler to datamine websites protected by "are you an obnoxious bot" checks.
 
2014-04-16 09:52:27 PM
So are we inevitably going to be forced to:

1.  Accept the encroachment of spammers and trolls to permanent harrassment levels as they'll again create fake accounts with impunity

2. Have to go to a human-based Registration system where someone will actually have to manually approve every registration via phone, video conference, or actual walk-up

3. ? Some solution I don't know yet that only humans could feasibly solve

4. BOUNTY ON SPAMMERS HEADS

I'm ok with 4, personally.
 
2014-04-16 10:01:12 PM
In the late 80s or early 90s, I played some stupid turn based game at cjb.net (I think... it's a parked/squatted domain now).  The site also had a live chat thing, probably IRC.  They had a simple anti-bot thing that put up a word or random scramble of letters in a box as a GIF that a player had to type back in order to continue play.  The word images were "scrambled" with stray dots.

So being a young programmer buck, I built a bitmap font that matched theirs, mostly, and wrote a crude low pass filter to get ride of the dots, then some C code to scroll through the raster image and pattern match.  Wound up, I could flawlessly decode their early "captchas" with a relatively simply C program.

But then I bragged about it on their chat channel.  No one believed me, kept saying I was lying.  So, being in my early 20s and more subject to that kind of BS prove yourself, I posted a link to the code.

That got me banned from the game and they changed their captchas to a wavey pattern, which I thought maybe I could crack with a bit more effort, but... fark it.
 
2014-04-16 10:36:39 PM
So, was having a heck of a time with some google captcha a while back...missed about 7-8 times in a row.  So, decided to do the audio captcha...has anyone here ever tried one?  Good lord, it was harder to decode than the messed up text on screen.
 
2014-04-16 11:18:35 PM
The game CAPTCHAs are the wave of the future.

Those will be fun.
 
2014-04-16 11:41:17 PM
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2014-04-17 12:18:29 AM

Gig103: These aren't even human solveable.


Indeed. Now the question is... What kind of bot protection can we make that is human solvable.
 
2014-04-17 01:23:59 AM

Eps05: What kind of bot protection can we make that is human solvable.


I think that's the wrong way to look at it. It's better to use bots to monitor accounts to look for signs of non-human behavior, such as posting a lot very quickly or posting on a fark thread after having visited the farked article.

The bots are fighting each other, instead of making humans jump through hoops to pass a reverse-Turing test.
 
2014-04-17 07:00:24 AM
Good.  Distorted text captchas are retarded.  Half the time I can't read them myself.
 
2014-04-17 10:54:13 AM
Jesus, I missed twenty in a row one time and literally gave up on ever signing up for whatever the hell it was I was signing up for. On a good day I might get 50%.
 
2014-04-17 12:57:19 PM

NeoCortex42: I saw Google reader in the headline and got my hopes up.

Bring back Google Reader!


+eleventy111
 
2014-04-17 09:19:37 PM

Eps05: Gig103: These aren't even human solveable.

Indeed. Now the question is... What kind of bot protection can we make that is human solvable.


I've heard there has been more success with the "find a kitten" variety of captcha, as an example of "human solvable thing that still gives bots fits".

That said, this pretty much throws this XKCD out the window:

www.explainxkcd.com
 
2014-04-18 01:44:28 AM

Great Porn Dragon: I've heard there has been more success with the "find a kitten" variety of captcha, as an example of "human solvable thing that still gives bots fits".


There are old stories floating around that spammers will pay humans to solve captchas instead of using bots, so it doesn't matter what we do for them.

Also, some companies were talking about using the 'find a kitten' ones as advertising. "Find the Coca-Cola logo!"
 
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